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Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:25am On Feb 21, 2025
tctrills:
Again we would not be judged by what is not written or commanded. Mention on single disciple who ate Amala.
In my bible, we are told how we would be judged. Asking questions is not one of the measures by which we will be judged.
As Christians, would be be judged for asking religious questions in public?
No
Lastly, you are an hypocrite.
You have asked many questions, mostly foolish ones on this forum so how are you better than me. grin grin grin grin
Following the path of antagonists of the faith is sure way to destruction that's what makes Jesus' disciples refer to people like you as sons of disobedience {Ephesians 5:6} these men kept questioning the teachings of the apostles publicly {3John 9} instead of going to ask them privately as sincere learners will do! John 3:1 smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:16am On Feb 21, 2025
tctrills:
Good I completely agree with you. We ask questions to inform, build, get people to start thinking, and searching for answers. Do you know that Jesus taught by asking questions? Sometimes when I ask you questions, I am trying to teach you my boy.
Jesus don't go asking humble people questions it's only his heartless enemies that he counter their questions and thoughts with questions not humble people who wants to learn from him.

So try harder! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:14am On Feb 21, 2025
tctrills:
They questioned because they did not believe him simple and short. I believe but I still have much to learn and I want others to learn with me. Do you see the difference? I know you do but you will claim you don't.
Present one single example of disciple who questioned Jesus' teachings publicly nah?

No single disciple question Jesus' words in public!

Only enemies of the faith does that.

Ọmọ you should know i will nail you completely one the acts of Jesus' disciples nah because i study my Bible diligently to know their dos and donts! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:08am On Feb 21, 2025
tctrills:
Oga if it's not in the book, we would not be judged for it. Trust me, no one will go to hell for asking a question publicly.
Jesus did not rebuke the Pharisees, Sadducees for asking public questions. He rebuked them for so many things but never for asking public questions. Do you read your Bible at all.
You will surely perish like the Pharisees, Sadducees and Scribes who were publicly questioning faith in Christ Jesus.

Do you know why?

It's based on the activities of these antagonists that millions of Jews never believe in Jesus till today! Matthew 18:6

So guy you are heading straight into destruction! Matthew 7:13-14smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:05am On Feb 21, 2025
tctrills:
Again you are not making any sense. My question remains, are we here to debate the number of disciples we have made for him?
I don't know how many you have made for your church and you know nothing about me so what point are you trying to make. What if I have made a million disciples for him?
If you're not making disciples for Jesus neither associating with believers where we do ask ourselves questions to build up one another's faith what makes you a disciple of Christ? Hebrews 10:24-25cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:03am On Feb 21, 2025
When Jesus told his disciples that John the baptist is Elijah who is to come {Matthew 11:14} did they question him?
NO!
But where is it written in the OT that John will be the name of the prophet that will prepare the way for Christ?
Nowhere!
Even John the baptist declared that he is not Elijah nor the expected prophet! John 1:21
So why did Jesus' disciples believe what Jesus told them about John being Elijah?

Because the man fulfilled the prophecy regarding one who will prepare the way for Christ! John 1:23

So if after seeing all the correlation between Jesus and Michael coupled with the fact that only Jehovah's Witnesses are preaching and teaching globally to gather peace lovers as Jesus commanded his disciples {Luke 10:6; Act 1:8} there is no other way to prove for a faithless miscreant that Jesus is the same Archangel Michael.

The WORKS of FAITH has spoken in volumes! James 2:18 smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:46am On Feb 21, 2025
tctrills:
Foolish works, you don't know if I have a thousand disciples so what exactly is your point.
Olódo! cheesy
Jesus sent us out to make disciples for him not for ourselves {Matthew 28:19} it's after gathering them as a church that we will teach them what Jesus taught us {Matthew 28:20} so my point is you don't associate with any church where disciples are made for Christ!

tctrills:
I also don't know if you have any disciples and I am not sure that I need the my disciples are more than yours debate. You are too old for that.
Talk true boy you no believe in Jesus jọọ! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:42am On Feb 21, 2025
tctrills:
Good so if it is not written, it's not a problem. Let's not make new commandments ok. Let's stick to what has been revealed. Remember, we would be judged from the things written in the book so if it is not written in the book, why are you judging me
Unless you are adding to the book and you know the consequences.
It is WRITTEN that Christians don't ask Jesus questions in public!

So if you don't meet with believers where your questions can be addressed but always questioning the faith on a faceless forum that makes you an antagonist of the faith.

That's what Pharisees, Sadducees and Scribes does to Jesus PUBLICLY! Matthew 16:1; 19:3; Mark 8:11; Luke 10:25;
Christianity Etc › Re: It Was Roman Catholics Pagans Who Ruled & Committed Atrocities Not Christians by MaxInDHouse(m):
StillDtruth:
While researching on a matter, I have gotten to appreciate that when people say church they mean Christians.

Meanwhile Christians never acquired political power.

It was Pagan Roman Catholics who ruled the world & committed all the evil atrocities listed and not Christians.

Do note that Rome hated Christians and hotly persecuted them in a bid to destroy and annihilate them


Will be back with more facts
StillDtruth:
MaxinD sometimes Lies and everyone tells him that. And my arguments always represent my conviction which is why I face every valid or strong point with a counter.
Islam is not also about power grabbing it's during politics that a Muslim who is a politician use religion to brainwashed his fellow worshipers into supporting him.

So if Jesus' disciples are not doing that did they just come up with the idea or their leader taught them to abstain from WORLDLY politics? John 15:19
Christianity Etc › Re: It Was Roman Catholics Pagans Who Ruled & Committed Atrocities Not Christians by MaxInDHouse(m):
StillDtruth:
Is Christianity about power grabbing/stealing aka politics?

If that is what you think, then you are still are still a mad Muslim practicing polytheism just like Catholics.
This your MAD this MAD that.

Haba! When will you grow up nah?

The point is first century Christians don't participate in politics that's why they were able to maintain the love, joy and peace among them! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:45am On Feb 21, 2025
tctrills:
Where is it written that the apostles never had public discussions and asked questions.
Or where you there with them. Stick to what you know my boy.
Where is it written that the Apostles questioned Jesus (their divine source of knowledge) publicly nah?

You are always questioning faith in Christ Jesus and it's here on a faceless forum.

Ọmọ you no get any faith! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:43am On Feb 21, 2025
tctrills:
It's one thing to be a disciple, witness of Jehovah and another to be the witness of a confused white man. I choose the first.
Real disciples makes disciples not just asking questions all the time learning and never doing what the master assigned his disciples to go out and do! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:43am On Feb 21, 2025
tctrills:
Lol
I love what you do whenever you can't provide answers. If you don't know who Jesus Christ is then you can never be Jehovah's witnesses. If you think Jesus Christ is Angel Michael then you are a witness of stupidity.
I use the word Stupidity because even without scriptural evidence, you still believe your nonsense.
We live by every word the proceed from the mouth of God. Not every word that proceed from some funny white guy.
Try to make disciples with whatever you know nah! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:42am On Feb 21, 2025
tctrills:
Again, you must always enforce your opinion. Just one question my boy. Where is it written that we cannot ask religious questions in public?
And yes, I want the antagonists to hear these questions because as Christians we have nothing to hide. And it's an opportunity for them to learn when answers are provided.
Paul said:

"Remember those who are taking the lead among you, who have spoken the word of God to you, and as you contemplate how their conduct turns out, imitate their faith" Hebrews 13:7

It's the Apostles of Christ that established Christianity and it's their footsteps we are following as we imitate their faith.

Do they use to question Jesus their teacher publicly?

NO!

This further buttress my point that you don't associate with any church because if you do that's where true believers will take their questions to in the midst of those who knows better than them not on a faceless forum where there are many antagonists of faith in Christ! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: It Was Roman Catholics Pagans Who Ruled & Committed Atrocities Not Christians by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:34am On Feb 21, 2025
MiddleDimension:
So you actually saw how much he lied in the polygamy thread.
@MaxInDHouse
Guy this thread is not about polygamy it's about Jesus' disciples not into politics but the funny thing now is how the same person who initiated it is now speaking against himself as if he doesn't know what he is saying in the first place!

StillDtruth:
Meanwhile Christians never acquired political power.
Abeg did the first century Christians just decided not to participate in politics or they are doing what their leader taught them? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:29am On Feb 21, 2025
tctrills:
The bible never taught that angels are sons of God. Not in Job, not Anywhere. But the bible taught that men are sons of God
The bible called Angels servants of God.

Then the statement that whenever God makes a declaration, it's Michael that passes the message, that's clearly false. Let's see the verse you quoted to know if any of them taught this rubbish.
Revelations 19:13
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
From this, we learn that you are dishonest. The bible never taught that Michael passes messages to the other angels, you made that up.
Salvation rest on Christ not Angel Michael. The verse you quoted never mentioned Angel Michael.
Daniel 12:3

Please provide the verses that say that salvation rest on Michael or that he reveals Gods words to the other Angels. Thank you.
Jehovah's Witnesses organization has answered your question as the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught {Matthew 28:19-20} so if you know a better performing group doing what Jesus taught present them because true Christians are Jesus' witnesses {Act 1:8} Jesus is Archangel Michael that's why his true disciples who are doing his work can't be questioned over whatever they say about the true identity of the spirit King who is leading them to do God's will in a world that is filled with contradictions! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:24am On Feb 21, 2025
tctrills:
As always, you are wrong. A true believer must keep asking.
But I totally get your position, you are not allowed to question anything that's why someone would tell you that Jesus Christ is Angel Michael and give you Psalms 103:20 as evidence and you will swallow it. There is a big difference between a son and a slave. A son is allowed to ask questions but you are not.
Olódo! cheesy

Is Nairaland (a faceless forum where their are antagonists of faith in Christ) your church where you are supposed to ask your TEACHERS what you don't understand?

Why do you think Jesus' disciples always ask him questions regarding what he is teaching them in private and not in the presence of antagonists? Matthew 13:10 ; 24:3

If truly you are a believer in Christ is it here on Nairaland that you should be asking contradicting questions against your own professed faith?

LIAR! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: It Was Roman Catholics Pagans Who Ruled & Committed Atrocities Not Christians by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:13am On Feb 21, 2025
StillDtruth:
See how you are Lying and proving jws, like Catholics are one of the many children of Satan? No where did Jesus Say that but now you Lied, like Satan does saying Jesus Said it.
What did Jesus mean when he told the Roman governor:


Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.” ‭John 18:36 NIV‬

Who are his servants or supporters who supposed to fight to prevent his arrest by the Jewish leaders?

When someone fights as servant or supporter of a leader who supposed to be a king where does such happen if not in politics?
Christianity Etc › Re: It Was Roman Catholics Pagans Who Ruled & Committed Atrocities Not Christians by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:05am On Feb 21, 2025
StillDtruth:
Stop bringing your Muslim Madness by using our bible to Lie using the trick of double entedre.
A Lie is a Lie
A white Lie is a Lie
A half truth is a Lie.
A hidden Truth is a Lie
A Lie by omission is a Lie
A Lie is a Lie!
I'm not MiddleDimension who said you've turned to Jehovah's Witnesses nah!

MiddleDimension:
@StillDTruth you have converted from catholicism to Jehovah's witnesses now?
That group name "Jehovah's Witnesses" may irritate you but that's the one and only religion or group that believes in the OP! smiley

So please attend to his post and explain which religion/church is no part of politics today. undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: It Was Roman Catholics Pagans Who Ruled & Committed Atrocities Not Christians by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:16am On Feb 21, 2025
Natbrowny:
Extend ur research to WHY ROMANs HATED CHRISTIANS
Jesus warned his disciples strictly that they will be persecuted for not being in support of politics {John 15:17-19} Jesus himself was hated for preaching love and peace for all people so his own people (Jews) felt he must be killed {John 11:53} because he taught people to love their neighbours {Mark 12:31} love their fellow worshipers {John 13:34-35} and even love with prayers for their enemies {Luke 6:27-28} with this in the mind of a Jew back in the first century there is no way such a person could be convinced to take up weapon against anyone be it friend or foe {Matthew 26:52} this is what the first century Jewish religious leaders thought before they planned to kill Jesus {John 11:48} and with the power given him to perform miracles it's evident that God is backing him! John 3:2

So by the time Christianity begin to spread in Rome the emperor of Rome who feels like the king of the world back then thought exactly the same thing the Jews thought that if Romans become Christians who will fight his wars to keep him being the greatest emperor?

That's why he launched an attack on the Christians until another emperor was able to fish out some who aren't ready to continue with Jesus' teaching of peace but claiming Christians (AntiChrists) this are the ones the new Roman emperor gave full backup to establish their own religion as they are ready to support Roman politics that's where Christmas came from to merge the pagan festival of Mass and the group claiming Christians together just to strengthen his own empire.

Later they started going from place to place forcing Catholicism on people in other lands by war not preaching as Jesus instituted! Matthew 10:16

Today when other religions figured out how Catholicism gained ground in many lands they speak against Christianity thinking that is what the faith is all about but from inception Christians have nothing to do with politics because their kingdom or government as preached by their founder does not rely on forces from this world! John 18:36

God bless you and may you have peace! undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: It Was Roman Catholics Pagans Who Ruled & Committed Atrocities Not Christians by MaxInDHouse(m):
MiddleDimension:
@StillDTruth you have converted from catholicism to Jehovah's witnesses now?
Don't be surprised that if anyone tries to dig deeper into the history of Christianity as practiced in the first century by Jesus' disciples you have no other option than Jehovah's Witnesses. Luke 8:17

You will know the truth and the truth will set you free! John 8:32
undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:44am On Feb 21, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
There are many spirit sons of God or angels in heaven and they are all called "morning stars" {Job 38:7} but one was singled out among the rest as "the bright morning star" {Revelations 22:16} he is called the Arch/Chief angel {Jude 9} this angel always represent God in the Old Testament as the angel of God {Exodus 13:21 compare to Exodus 14:19} but the Bible call other angels as if they all belong to Archangel Michael and Satan being a rebellious spirit son also leads his cohorts who are rebels like him! Revelations 12:7

Whenever God makes any declaration in heaven it's Michael who often passes the message to other angels so they all respect him as the voice or word of God {John 1:1 compare to Revelations 19:13} that's why he jumps into action whenever any of his angels have issues with Satan the head of rebels! Daniel 10:13; Jude 9

Salvation of obedient mankind rests on the shoulder of this angel {Daniel 12:3} as he always takes the lead in doing what his father wants and his father has given him the power to raise the dead with just a call! 1Thessalonians 4:16 compare to John 5:28 and 11:43

So it's the same angel that was sent to us as Jesus!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Jesus And Angel Michael Cannot Be The Same Person: by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:38am On Feb 21, 2025
excanny:
Who then is the Angel of the Lord in the Old Testament?
There are many spirit sons of God or angels in heaven and they are all called "morning stars" {Job 38:7} but one was singled out among the rest as "the bright morning star" {Revelations 22:16} he is called the Arch/Chief angel {Jude 9} this angel always represent God in the Old Testament as the angel of God {Exodus 13:21 compare to Exodus 14:19} but the Bible call other angels as if they all belong to Archangel Michael and Satan being a rebellious spirit son also leads his cohorts who are rebels like him! Revelations 12:7

Whenever God makes any declaration in heaven it's Michael who often passes the message to other angels so they all respect him as the voice or word of God {John 1:1 compare to Revelations 19:13} that's why he jumps into action whenever any of his angels have issues with Satan the head of rebels! Daniel 10:13; Jude 9

Salvation of obedient mankind rests on the shoulder of this angel {Daniel 12:3} as he always takes the lead in doing what his father wants and his father has given him the power to raise the dead with just a call! 1Thessalonians 4:16 compare to John 5:28 and 11:43

So it's the same angel that was sent to us as Jesus!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Jesus And Angel Michael Cannot Be The Same Person: by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:18am On Feb 21, 2025
MightySparrow:
It depends, it in KJV you have Michael as the only archangel. In other writs of Hebrews before canonization of the Bible has twelve, Catholic agrees to six or seven. Yet you have not answered my question.
You are still dodging.gringrin
Abi JW's canonized the Bible?
Olódo!

Do Catholics agree that you people are true Christians? smiley

Which version do you believe?
You can't be running from pillar to post arguing blindly if you don't have strong conviction on a particular version or what you want to challenge.

So are you challenging Jehovah's Witnesses conviction over Jesus being the Archangel or you want to learn?

There is only one Archangel according to the Bible but if you prefer the Catholic Bible then go and ask your Papa why he is not using the Catholic Bible to teach you before coming to question the faith of another religion with what Catholics say! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:00am On Feb 21, 2025
tctrills:
Lol, you never grow out of this. How old are you now?
A true believer doesn't raise questions against the foundation of what he claims to believe so you don't believe in God or Bible you are just disguising among those claiming worshipers.
I asked you a simple question and you failed woefully to provide concrete evidence to back what Jesus said at John 3:16.
Misinformed churchgoers may hail you for attacking Jehovah's Witnesses with your questions but there is nothing in the Bible that really matters to you! wink

Here you are asking stupid questions:

tctrills:
Is it ok to take cocaine if not taking excessively?
Also, did the bible ever condemn Slavery, Gambling or underage marriage?
As you keep on asking stupid questions this is what a commentator told you:

Felimax:
Go and study your Bible very well. Love is the summary of it all. Where love is abundant those vices you mentioned will expire.
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:34pm On Feb 20, 2025
Janosky:
Are you really sure you believe in your Bible?
Obstinate heart of Tctrills!
grin grin grin


Oga,who is "the LORD" @ Psalms 103:20 & Psalms 110:1?

Is the son doing the Lord's command @ Psalms 103:20 & Psalms 110:1?

What did your own Bible calls those doing the Lord's command @ Psalms 103:20?
What did the Father calls those doing his command @Psalm103:20?
tctrils doesn't have any faith but when a believer proves to be steadfast in faith tctrils will die there asking stupid questions claiming he wants to know! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Jesus And Angel Michael Cannot Be The Same Person: by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:31pm On Feb 20, 2025
MightySparrow:
One of the Archangels.
MightySparrow:
One, So your answer now.
Next time prepare well before you come to engage me in a discussion.

There is only one Archangel or Chief angel who is the commander of all the heavenly armies, he is the same person we know as the angel of God or Michael: Jesus!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Jesus And Angel Michael Cannot Be The Same Person: by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:20pm On Feb 20, 2025
MightySparrow:
Are you being honest in this?
Mind you I referred to a particular inference from your publicationsgringringrin
How many Archangel is mentioned in the Bible?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Jesus And Angel Michael Cannot Be The Same Person: by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:11pm On Feb 20, 2025
MightySparrow:
That is not what I asked Sir. Read my post again and give answer. Thanks
There's nothing to read since you failed to know that there is only one Archangel!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Jesus And Angel Michael Cannot Be The Same Person: by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:13pm On Feb 20, 2025
MightySparrow:
One of the Archangels.
There is only one Archangel: Michael

But if you don't agree then show me in your KJV where any other angel is referred to as Archangel apart from Michael!
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:09pm On Feb 20, 2025

Christianity Etc › Re: Can Anyone Refute The Claim Of Jw Believe That Angel Michael Is Jesus Christ by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:00pm On Feb 20, 2025
tctrills:
I don't even understand what you mean
Do you believe Jesus is the son of God?
If yes and i also believe the same thing there is nothing further to say about his identity because each religion claiming Christians have their doctrine on that.
If you have to cross the boundaries to start asking questions about how each religion view Jesus' prehuman existence then you have to mention your church! smiley

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