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delkuf himself has made things easy for Jehovah's Witnesses!

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Out of all the religionists on this forum he could mention just one group that's visiting people in their homes just as Jesus commanded his disciples {Matthew 10:11-13} where are all the other religions claiming Christians?

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They didn't just shout in buses or corners of the streets but engaged him in Bible discussions, of course they never preached Michael is Jesus to him he must have initiated the discussion thinking they don't have biblical backing.

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Jehovah's Witnesses presented their belief with efficacy that delkuf have to rush back to Nairaland seeking support from whoever could help him to counter the competency of the Jehovah's Witnesses!

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Despite all the agitation of members of Christendom no church could prove that Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong because from time immemorial Bible scholars are of the opinion that Jesus is the angel of God in the Bible! Exodus 14:19
https://versebyverseministry.org/bible-answers/how-do-we-know-the-angel-of-the-lord-is-jesus

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After everything this is delkuf's conclusion:

delkuf:
well so if those school of thought concluded that the Lord Jesus Christ is a angel, good for you. I don't go down that lane. So that settles it. Bye

So he could only say "i disagree"

Impersonation is possible in every religion no matter what you claim whether Christian or Muslim.

The only way to uncover impersonation in religion is what God promised.

What are the promises of God regarding His worshipers or prophets that Muhammad fulfilled?

What obvious blessings has it brought to mankind?

If a demon disguised as Gabriel Muhammad can only know if he's familiar with knowledge about the true God and His promises. In the absence of that Muhammad has no blame!

1914

tctrills:
If your works are all about false teachings then you cannot be a true organization.

Whether you call it true or false doctrine that's the one and only organization that fulfilled what God promised about His worshipers in the last days! Isaiah 2:2-4

TenQ:
Cc: MaxInDHouse

Are you ready to edit the topic?

MaxInDHouse:
Where was God before he created heaven? JWs please Help us

sonmvayina:
Bye bye...you are a dummy

Abeg who is not a dummy in your eyes?

tctrills:
He did not tell them to teach false doctrines so any organization teaching made up doctrines about Angel Michael is a false one. And as I said earlier, having the same line of thought is useless if that thought is false. You seem to be saying that because you guys have common beliefs, your falsehoods should not be questioned. I can't buy into that.
I agree you have common beliefs (same line of thought) but it's not an immunity for calling you out when you can't defend your doctrine or when you teach the doctrines of men.

Ọmọ that's the same thing Pharisees said about Jesus' teachings they claimed he was a liar {Matthew 27:63} born through fornication {John 8:41} insane and demons possessed! John 10:20

What vindicated Jesus?

He was able to fulfill what God promised about the Christ right in their eyes! John 14:11

According to God's word the Messiah will gather people, teach them to form a global family of peace loving worshipers. Daniel 12:1-3 compare to Isaiah 9:6

Today Jehovah's Witnesses are fulfilling the prophecy foretold about God's people in the end time {Isaiah 2:2-4} so if you say they are lying why not present the organization that's teaching the truth {Matthew 28:20} and let's EXAMINE their WORKS? James 2:18-26

“At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever." ‭Daniel 12:1-3 NIV‬


If you like argue till tomorrow, this is what Daniel saw about Michael who will be raised among the Jews {Isaiah 9:6} he will gather people and teach them {Mark 4:2} he will raise many from the dead so they can have everlasting life, and due to his teachings the wise ones will shine throughout the earth! Matthew 5:14-16


Abeg whose voice will raise the dead?


The voice of the Archangel! 1Thessalonians 4:16 compare to John 5:28-29

Jehovah's Witnesses dey talk faithless people wants to argue!

achorladey:
Before your lies and manipulations filled religious organization you know as Jehovah’s organization came into existence +/- 150 years ago that so called global assignment had reach all the distance part of the earth.

Olódo!

Mention a global family of peace loving worshipers before Jehovah's Witnesses started! Isaiah 2:4; John 13:34-35; Act 1:8;

achorladey:
He was here before your so called Jehovah’s witnesses not to talk of you ever dreaming joining this platform. Your madness and insanities peddling brains cannot reason well on that.

With evidence:

tctrills:
Now he goes off to another topic. I see how these verses teach you that Angle Michael is Jesus Christ.
If 2 or more people have the same line of thought regarding nonsense, does that suddenly make it sensible?
All Muslims believe Mohammed is a prophet of God, does that make him God's prophet?
No need to start saying meaningless things now. I already praised you that you initial argument made Sense.

Jesus gave his faithful disciples a global assignment {Act 1:8} they have to go to all the earth in search of peace lovers {Luke 10:6} and TEACH them all the things he commanded {Matthew 28:19-20} so that they can form a global family of peace loving worshipers due to the teachings they got from Jesus.

Oya tell me the way any expert can take to make that work if they don't have the same line of thought?

sonmvayina:
Gather people to molest and commit all kinds of atrocities..be deceiving your self.

Molest, committ all kinds of atrocities but have deep respect for life so that we all agreed to drop weapons while we are working on the rest of atrocities peculiar to sinful mankind in general!

sonmvayina:
ok
So why are you claiming "best performing cult group"?

The only group that is able to gather peace lovers throughout the earth and unite them to make one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

tctrills:
The goal here isn't to make sense but to point people to the word of God.

So that each of them may face different direction and continue arguing against themselves {1Corinthians 14:33} or so that they may have the same line of thought? John 17:22

Gabrielshow24:
Always an "organization" 🤦
Nothing more
🤖-It doesn't matter what is True, it doesn't matter what is real all that matters is what the organization says!!!
Prime definition of Brainwashing!!! 😈

Say what is in your mind nah, definitely Jesus must have brainwashed all his disciples for them to have the same line of thought! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂From Holy one to Michael!!!
What a logical leap!!! 🤦

YES!

Gabrielshow24:
History is filled with how people separated by time and space arrive at the same mathematical truth or concept!!!

The truth is objective!!!
It doesn't matter whether you have 1.3billion people as JW, appeal to population doesn't guarantee truthiness!!!

That's why no intellectually sane person will take you seriously when you mention things like this as a defense to your statement!!!

It's really appalling when you catch a thief and the first thing he mentions is the existence/normalization of thieves!!!

That's exactly what you are doing right now.
You make people infer that the reason you do these things is because your family does them!!!

And you have been so imbibed into this family that there's no self thought and reasoning - and that bears a remarkable resemblance to a cult!!!

Consequently why you are part of a cult!!!

Ọmọ Jesus PRAYED for his disciples to have the same line of thought globally! John 17:22

So if you can't present an organization with which you share the same line of thought then it means you're not connected to Jesus in any way!

sonmvayina:
So your cult is evil...yes or No.?

First of all is there any evil anywhere?
Is everything not supposed be God's work according to you?

Gabrielshow24:
"Michael, Jesus" based on THE WORKS OF HIS FAITH that he is indeed the one saying his PERSONAL opinion🥲.

Ọmọ do understand English?

Between you and i who has failed to present an organization that is working due to his faith? James 2:18-26

You can't even mention a church/group that's sharing your thoughts.

So is that not what makes everything you think PERSONAL?

johnw47:
gabriel spoke to mary for God, so according to false jw mad max's reasoning
gabriel must be qualified to be called the Word
they are dum frauds

Ọ̀dẹ̀!

Michael is God's spokesman among the angels not just angels speaking to humans but one who is always speaking as the Holy one of God among the angels!

Despite putting on the appearance of a lesser being {Hebrews 2:9} a demon could still recognize him:

Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God. Mark 1:24

Why?

Jesus/Michael is God's spokesman among the angels in heaven: the WORD!

Gabrielshow24:
Am talking about your posits, you are concerned about my Faith producing works!!!

That's what the scripture teaches!

Two persons are debating on God's word to find out who is on God's side so both of them kept quoting the scriptures but while one is presenting the WORKS of his FAITH {James 2:18} the other just arguing based on his PERSONAL opinion! 1Timothy 6:4

So suit yourself my guy!

sonmvayina:
That does not change the fact that you belong to an evil cult. That takes delight in seeing innocent people suffer. The real God does not need a human sacrifice. Human sacrifice belongs to the realm of Lucifer.

Stop this insanity jọọ!

If you call anything "SATANIC" you don't attach it to EVIL if you're in your right senses because you as in your very self said Satan is God's servant!

tctrills:
Your argument makes some sense!

OK!

Gabrielshow24:
I am beginning to see that you have nothing logical to say.
You are more concerned with my "church" than over the sanity and truthiness of your posits!!!
As far as I am concerned, my church is not the subject topic, whatever you chip in about that is irrelevant🤨
Face the problem at hand and stop running like your Father the Devil!!!!

Your faith based on arguments on what is written in God's word without visible works of evidence backing it is DEAD! James 2:18-26

sonmvayina:
Lol...That's why you belong to a satanic cult.

I thought you said Satan is God's servant? What happened to your brain again?
Are you now of the opinion that Satan is evil?

Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂 Don't you know they were all called in the same timeframe😂😂😂.

You truly don't think.
Now to poke holes in this useless premise of yours!

While your "first set " fits men greatly how does it fit angels?

I will point out two implications: the Angels' creation date was not equal hence those made first engaged first, the second is rather far off, given hints that if all the angels were made together then what resulted in this - FIRST SET - is nothing but a byproduct of individual zeal and motivation.

Choose the lesser evil between this two implications and let's consider its slippery slope to show; you will be damned in both ways!!!

It's not compulsory you agree all you need to do is present your own church and let's examine the WORKS of your faith {James 2:18-26} your argument is of no relevance now! 1Timothy 6:4

tctrills:
So basically, we are into guesswork again. Because Angel Michael often stands as God's spokesman, he is Jesus Christ? Moses was God's spokesman and every prophet bringing us His words were his spokes man.
You don't become Jesus Christ by being God's spokesman, it takes a whole lot more.
Lastly, if the scriptures never revealed that Angle Michael was Jesus Christ, it is for a reason.
It is always wise to stick to the already revealed truth than to create our own truths which are often times false.
Mr Tirimisiu as Christian, let's learn to ask, where was it revealed and when the person gets into complex theorizing instead of pointing us to the revelation in the scriptures, do not take such a person serious.
We believe in every word that processes from the mouth of God and not in the guesswork of man.

As God's spokesman among the angels that's what qualifies Michael to be called "the WORD"

johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
lost false jw mad max
with my thing being mainly showing up lies, tells you why i mainly post to you and other false jw's
g u liars r dum, aren't you
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Johnny, prove you are a living creature by commenting meaningfully on other threads not just when JWs are mentioned.

It's like someone bewitched you with a spell or programmed you so that at the mention of Jehovah's Witnesses you kick off like an engine used to wining!

alansary0064:
Read without sentiment. I'm not changing any narrative rather trying to justify the case.

It's just unfortunate but what really call the attention of people is the religious title of the man.
Surely people commits grievous crimes in the hidden but how do you explain the case where this man butchered a lady and sold her body parts?
So those buying human parts from him knew he's an Islamic cleric in the open but a human body part seller in secret!

With this act he has stained the name of Islam not just before those hearing this news but how do you expect his costumers to view other Islamic clerics who may be honest hearted with their faith?

johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

i will not only tell myself the truth, i will tell you the truth to oh dum one
being a saved Christian i am indeed a living man
and if the truths and scriptures i post don't bite you it's because you don't believe truth:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Ọ̀dẹ̀!

Living but only comment on JW threads!

johnw47:
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at



lost false jw mad max forever lying and puffed up:

Pro 16:5 Everyone who is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD;
you puffed up/proud in heart false jw's are an abomination to Jehovah
and of course you don't care about that

and forever making up lies of course taking after your father the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire

Tell yourself the truth.

If not for Jehovah's Witnesses are you a living creature on this forum or a dead dog who can't bite?