sonmvayina: Is it not humans that committed the sin? Are they not the ones to make the restitution? Why ask to kill an innocent man as a sin sacrifice. It does not even work with humans with their frailty. Why should a loving God adopt it?
You go argue tire for this matter!
I have told you countless times that the sin God is talking about is not what humans committed because that one is simple before Him {Psalms 103:12-14} but the sin that's causing death {Genesis 3:19 compare to Psalms 49:7-9} is what God is talking about.
The blood to watch that away must be that of a PERFECT man equal to Adam the one that transferred sin and death to all his descendants who was also a PERFECT man. 1Corinthians 15:45
That's why Jesus must be born sinless so that he could pay that price for obedient mankind.
So no matter how much you cry because of what your faithless Jewish landlord told you against Jesus it's not going to work, that's how they have been faithless and rebellious from the onset!
MightySparrow: Ojo ni wa a o bẹni kàn sọta. Check my signature. When Stephen Lett told you people he is one of the 144,000 didn't you believe? He went further to give the conditions and qualifications for admittance. I said haha. The person that claimed to have drank tea with God, is more believable than Stephen Lett's own. Exod.24.11 - And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.
Are you too one of the 144,000? If not why are you not qualified?
So in a nutshell try to obey what Jesus said in the Bible book of Revelations:
Let the one who is unrighteous continue in unrighteousness, and let the filthy one continue in his filth; but let the righteous one continue in righteousness, and let the holy one continue in holiness. “‘Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to repay each one according to his work". Rev 22:11-12
GbemiTrabaye01: Yeah those are arranged miracles. HIV/AIDS cleansed for where? Blindness healed for where? Lame walk for where? All those tricks are lame now.
They prefer lies!
Ask him if he knows any formerly blind or lame that's now healed today by their miracles!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUfevnK5EaY?si=gt_2FVPbxWEBkFeU An end time pastor has been selling plots of land in heaven to his members. Please watch the clip and 5if you are interested in one. Seriously speaking, because Christianity is not censored , the practice and preaching has been placed upon some preachers' 'revelation', 'Light' New Lights'. The other day, a prophet claimed he have drove his car to heaven. It about three minutes video, you can watch it.
When a man told you he drank tea with God you didn't call for censore but now that others are following his path you want them to be sanctioned. Well Jesus knew false religions will start to increase after the death of John who was the last apostle that's why he told his true disciples:
Let the one who is unrighteous continue in unrighteousness, and let the filthy one continue in his filth; but let the righteous one continue in righteousness, and let the holy one continue in holiness. Revelations 22:11
That's why Jesus asked us to separate ourselves so the whole world can see we are totally different from all of you! 2Corinthians 6:17 compare to Numbers 16:21
You came to my thread to ask a question about certain quoted scriptures:
MrPresident1: Explain these Scriptures, I would like to here the jw interpretation
Because you believe Donald Trump is your savior but after giving you the true interpretation you ran away saying it's a lie. So Mr Donald Trump supporter can you present your own interpretation of those verses?
Come and witness the activities of Jehovah, How he has done astonishing things on the earth. He is bringing an end to wars throughout the earth. He breaks the bow and shatters the spear; He burns the military wagons with fire.
Out of all the nations Jehovah will gather millions of peace lovers and separate them as His WITNESSES {Isaiah 43:10} to prove that He is ready to bring an end to wars globally!
Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3
He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore.
Jehovah will use His active force (Holy Spirit) to support those doing what Jesus commanded {Matthew 28:19-20} so they will gain power when the Holy Spirit come upon them {Act 1:8} and they will go round the earth using what Jesus the Prince of Peace taught them {Isaiah 9:6} to collect all friends of peace {Luke 10:6} throughout the earth into one organization {Isaiah 2:2-3} each person will be speaking with his own neighbor about this wonderful prospect and God will command His angels to start writing down the names of all those engaging themselves in doing this WORK {Malachi 3:16} so that when He destroys evildoers those whose names are found in His book will be preserved! Proverbs 2:20-22 compare to Revelations 20:15
One funny thing about some people is how lifeless they are without JWs on this forum yet they will not admit it's only JWs that gives them oxygen to breathe!
Love800: Attention! Lol. In summary, church is complicated. We have the thief, devil, good Samaritan, witch, lucifer, honesty, intelligence, kindness, helper inside it. You just need to filter and take out the positive things about it!
Of course the church of Christ is not the place where you expect to meet perfect people but that's the only place of worship where God dwells to treat those who are spiritually sick. So truth is what we all uphold and there is no extortion in the church of Christ as it belongs to no one we don't pay tithes to enrich some lazy men who claims they are pastors that makes it difficult for liars to step on our platform unlike other churches where lies are used to make people pay for what they can't get!
tctrills: You are looking for a bible verse that says Angel Michael is not Jesus Christ? That's not how the bible works. You should ask your JW friends for verses that say Angel Michael is Jesus Christ.
Mr Tirimisiu, no verse specifically said Jesus is Michael just as no verse say Jesus is not Michael but there is an angel that often stands as God's spokesman {Genesis 18:1-4} or WORD of God {John 1:1; Revelations 19:13} he is the head of all the angels in heaven or Archangel.
That is what the OP can't refute when he met Jehovah's Witnesses that's why he came to ask for scriptures to tackle what was presented to him by the JWs.
After many scriptural points this is what he has to say before running away:
delkuf: well so if those school of thought concluded that the Lord Jesus Christ is a angel, good for you. I don't go down that lane. So that settles it. Bye
So he can never ever find anything to say against what God's people teaches other than running away from facts!
Gabrielshow24: Before I provide any verse let me know your standpoint!
What do you think of God? Perhaps he is not everywhere? 🤨
Now i remember!
You don't know what the Bible teaches on topics so it's not just that you don't have a church but you don't even know what Bible verse to apply during Bible discussion you just want to argue blindly!
Love800: In churches, they have the kids department. What do you think they teach dem there, riches? Can you teach riches and wealth to a child in the church?
That's the beginning of falsehood!
God commanded His worshipers to be taught together with their little children! Deuteronomy 31:12 compare to Matthew 14:21
So where did these churches got the idea of separating children from adults during sermon?
When God's word makes things clear yet someone wants to argue because of his credulous preconceived opinion what do you expect?
From what we read at Genesis 18:20-21 it's clear that God is not everywhere so if they like let them twist the matter using different grammar what God said in that verse is self explanatory!
When Jehovah's Witnesses talk most of you will like to argue but at last you have come to agree that there is an angel who often represent God in the Bible.
Well that's the same angel we believe to be Michael {Daniel 12:1} who came as God's representative: Jesus Christ!
Love800: All the churches are the same. Or maybe there is a better one that i have not yet discovered.
But actually, am done with the preachings of the church. I only attend groups meetings and departments programs and events. For my social circle!
And when i have gotten kids, i will resume going to church with dem. Not for myself, but for the good of my children. So they can be enlightened with morals!
But if you don't know anything better and you believe there is brainwashing in the churches are you saying you want your children to be brainwashed?
Gabrielshow24: This argument again, indeed you never learn.
Learn from who?
Come on! You have nothing to present other than ARGUMENTS based on your assumptions {1Timothy 6:4} while i have a global family of peace loving worshipers to present as the WORK my faith! James 2:18-26
Gabrielshow24: Even this doesn't help you, how did they come to this conclusion? 👀 You are a paragon example of why religion and logic always seem contrary 🤕.
Studying God's word as a group is what will attract the attention of Jesus {Matthew 18:20} and they actually have the proof of his presence as they are able to present a global family of peace loving organization who are WITNESSES to the fact that the Prince of Peace worked with these imperfect and fallible men!
Gabrielshow24: The truth is objective 😂😂😂😂. I wonder Why you quitted Islam? 🤔
Seekers of truth must be SUBJECTIVE to the same line of thought if truly they have known the truth because that's what will sanctify them {John 17 :17} to be united as one family of LOVE! John 13:34-35 compare to John 17:22; 1 Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3
That is missing in all the world's religions except in the gathering of true Christians: Jehovah's Witnesses!
Gabrielshow24: This is an intellectually dishonest answer🤔. Your so called wise men, what did they use to arrive at their conclusions? 👀 Your problem is indeed big. you are so dishonest that you can't even say the word "logic" or the phrase, "rules of truth". 😁 As if your so called wise men didn't have heads😂😂😂😂
Jesus left this planet some 2,000 years ago and all his Apostles died within few decades after his departure so what he foresee happened:
"When the Son of man arrives, will he really find this faith on the earth?” Luke 18:8
And that's exactly what happened after the death of his first century disciples the faith was lost only the writings were preserved {Revelations 22:11} as there is no more check and balances to ascertain true teachings.
So because these nineteenth century men gathered to study God's word with keen interest God used His Active Force (Holy Spirit) to guide them and today their works has been crowned because they have successfully gathered millions throughout the earth who are fulfilling what God promised in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 evidence of God's backing!
Lord Yeshua clearly explained what the so-called gods are, and how they came to be.
[color=silver].[/color] LUKE 16:1-15.
AND he said also unto his Disciples,
"There was a certain rich man, which had a steward; and the same was accused unto him that he had wasted his goods. 2. "And he called him, and said unto him,
'HOW IS IT THAT I HEAR THIS OF THEE? GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF THY STEWARDSHIP; FOR THOU MAYEST BE NO LONGER STEWARD.'
3. "Then the steward said within himself,
'WHAT SHALL I DO? FOR MY LORD TAKETH AWAY FROM ME THE STEWARDSHIP: I CANNOT DIG; TO BEG I AM ASHAMED. 4. 'I AM RESOLVED WHAT TO DO, THAT, WHEN I AM PUT OUT OF THE STEWARDSHIP, THEY MAY RECEIVE ME INTO THEIR HOUSES.'
5. "So he called every one of his lord's debtors unto him, and said unto the first,
'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU UNTO MY LORD?'
6. "And he said,
'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF OIL.'
And he said unto him,
'TAKE THY BILL, AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY, AND WRITE FIFTY.'
7. "Then said he to another,
'AND HOW MUCH OWEST THOU?'
And he said,
'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF WHEAT.'
And he said unto him,
'TAKE THY BILL, AND WRITE FOURSCORE.'
8. "And the lord commended the Unjust Steward, because he had done wisely: for the Children of this World are in their Generation wiser than the Children of Light. 9. "And I Say unto you,
'MAKE TO YOURSELVES FRIENDS OF THE MAMMON OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS; THAT, WHEN YE FAIL, THEY MAY RECEIVE YOU INTO EVERLASTING HABITATIONS.'
10. "He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much. 11. "If therefore ye have not been faithful in the Unrighteous Mammon, who will commit to your trust The True Riches? 12. "And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own? 13. "No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."
14. And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.
15. And he Said unto them,
"Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is Abomination in The Sight of God."