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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Among The Self Acclaimed Man Of God Would You Say Really He Is A Man Of God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:31pm On Feb 04, 2025
Newgoodkk:
If You were Permitted and Granted the Grace to Access and Judge by Standard of the Bible .

By their Fruits We shall Know them . Matthew 7 : 20

Who Among the Self Acclaimed Men of God would you Say YES , This is a Man of God .



Pastor Adeboye

Bishop Oyedepo

Pastor/ Prophet Iginla

Pastor Lazarus Mouka

Pastor Paul Adefarasin

Pastor Olukoya

Pastor W.F Kumuyi

Apostle Suleiman

Add More ..
First of all let's figure out what Jesus meant by "FRUIT"
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 032 light of the world by MaxInDHouse(op): 6:19pm On Feb 04, 2025
Let there be light!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Jesus Say, 'I Did Not Come To Bring Peace, But A Sword' (matthew 10:34)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:23pm On Feb 04, 2025
MightySparrow:
Are your Governing Body now goatherds or shepherds or both?
gringringrin

Just show us where Jesus or Paul shunned anybody?
Jesus said he will shun goats {Matthew 25:34-46} and apostle John and Paul said we should shun goat-like individuals! Romans 16:17-18; 2John 10-11

Sheep like ones are always OBEDIENT to those taking the lead in their gathering! Hebrews 13:7

So if anyone is not ready to be a sheep such a person is not fit in our midst Jesus sent us out to gather the lost SHEEP of the house of Israel! Matthew 10:6
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Jesus Say, 'I Did Not Come To Bring Peace, But A Sword' (matthew 10:34)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:58pm On Feb 04, 2025
MightySparrow:
Where did Jesus and Paul shun anybody. Have you ever read the parable of the lost sheep? That is not applicable to your (not Jesus') organization.
gringringringrin
LOST SHEEP not GOAT! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: If God is love, why did He harden Pharaoh's heart in Exodus 9:12?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:18pm On Feb 04, 2025
TheDevilsBride:
As far as I can see, you're the one promoting isolation from reality, not me :
Do you really know the meaning of that word "ISOLATION" ?

Because i have millions of people that i can relate with as fellow worshipers who lives both near and far not like you who is PROTESTING claiming she wants to be alone.
For instance can you boldly say in the public that you are TheDevilsBride?

Of course you can't that's why you hide what you are outside only for you to come to Nairaland looking for people to chat with because atheism doesn't promote any conventional thought so you people are here seeking the attention of believers expecting to find someone to share your feelings with as you are always bored anywhere else with your isolated mindset! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastors Kumuyi/adeboye/damina/akanni To Flush Out Fake Pastors In Nigeria by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:34pm On Feb 04, 2025
Under democracy there is freedom of speech, expression and worship so no matter how you feel you just have to tolerate other faith! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Jesus Say, 'I Did Not Come To Bring Peace, But A Sword' (matthew 10:34)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:58am On Feb 04, 2025
MightySparrow:
Hahahaha, Jesus didn't teach you to torture anyone emotionally and send them to Aro. What will He gain from that? You use mental weapon to destroy people living in community delusion.gringringrin
Tell Jesus and Paul that not me.
If anyone is not ready to live by term and condition of pure worship nobody is forcing them to be part of our spiritual family! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor and Church Members Publicly Destroy Bibles, Claiming Inaccuracies (Video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:00am On Feb 04, 2025
AbuTwins:
What law?
So you don't even know what happened yet you want to argue? cheesy

AbuTwins:
This is false. Jesus could have told them point blank and ask them where the other culprit was. He never mentioned it. You are simply telling lies.
It is simple. Jesus should have said "You people are hypocrites. Where is the other partner in crime? Go and Stone both of them?" But he rather said "let he who is without sin be the first to cast the stone". So canceling out punishment for sins in the Bible as there's no one without sin. You are really ignorant.
The mob were directed to speak with him as a test so if he say they should kill her their leaders will say "what is the difference between his teachings and theirs?" and if he told them not to stone her they will say "he is against Moses" because it's written in the mosaic laws that's why Jesus who is the world's most Wonderful Counselor {Isaiah 9:6} used a different approach that shocked everyone! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor and Church Members Publicly Destroy Bibles, Claiming Inaccuracies (Video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:55am On Feb 04, 2025
AbuTwins:
Na Jehovah be funny god?
At least His own worshipers have been separated in a violent world {Revelations 18:4} and formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers throughout the earth! Isaiah 2:4
So He has proved to be different from all other gods who can't make love and peace reign among their worshipers! Psalms 115:4-8wink


AbuTwins:
A broken radio just repeating itself! Which Muslims are killing themselves in your area? And do you expect Allah to come down like Taze Jesus in 1914?
Abeg! This your ignorance is top-notch!
Ọmọ the whole world know that Allah's worshipers are fighting and killing themselves because it doesn't care about that other than for them to bow towards the black stone in Mecca! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor and Church Members Publicly Destroy Bibles, Claiming Inaccuracies (Video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:50am On Feb 04, 2025
AbuTwins:
They fought and killed them including babies and animals. Wetin babies and animals do Jehovah? That's how senseless this can be. They didn't kill indiscriminately but they killed animals! You think you can fool me with your ignorance?
I told you this is why i left your religion because your god kept attaching itself to the God who explained why somethings has to be so while yours provides no sane explanation.
Who will care for pagan babies?
Livestocks are like money back then so if God's people carry such things without divine instructions doesn't it seem like stealing which your own Allah can't grasp?

AbuTwins:
Muslims are not the ones fighting in Iraq or Iran but nations! It seems you can't separate this. Nations fight each other. And even if it is as you say, does that mean it is general? How does that concern me a Muslim in Lagos?
Are those rulers Muslims?
If they are why can't they use your Allah's book to resolve their differences?

AbuTwins:
Islam has already proved itself! Those who understands it understands it. Those who are ignorant leaves it or practice it shabbily! And fighting is normal. Even among the 12 disciples of Jesus one betrayed him and na Jesus appoint am!
Let's assume you know what you're saying, please who supported Judas to fight against the other disciples?
Ọmọ you keep proving that this your Allah is just useless because nobody view Judas as a Christian talkless of saying Christians fought against Christians in Bible times.
That's what eludes your Allah and it's prophet! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor and Church Members Publicly Destroy Bibles, Claiming Inaccuracies (Video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:36am On Feb 04, 2025
AbuTwins:
You sound like a broken radio! Are you not tired? Allah has already given laws to be followed! Whoever does an atom of good or evil will see it. Keep your ignorance to yourself!
What a funny god! cheesy

In it's laws its stated that you people can judge whoever goes against what the Allah says but the same Allah can't do a single thing to stop its own worshipers from fighting and killing themselves! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Jesus Say, 'I Did Not Come To Bring Peace, But A Sword' (matthew 10:34)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:58am On Feb 04, 2025
AbuTwins:
Jehovah is bloody! He encouraged people taking over others land just as Israel is stylishly doing today! I remember the story of Judah in Genesis 38.
Jehovah never wanted to kill a single soul in the land of Canaan that's why He send a warning signal through what He did to Egypt the world's most powerful nation of that time.
If you were a citizen in Canaan would you have waited to fight against the people whose God single handedly rescued millions of people without a military force? smiley


AbuTwins:
Jehovah killed Er Judah's first son for an unnamed sin. Then he killed Onan the second for refusing to release sperm into his brother's widow and giving him seed! The father Judah them impregnated his son's wife. Only for Jehovah to forgive them. These are the ancestors of Jesus in the Bible!
When all these happened was there any law apart from the covenant of inheritance?
Ọmọ learn jàre there was no law prohibiting what Judah did!

AbuTwins:
Selective killing!
Bloody battles!
Unfair laws!
Incest and fornication!
How can all these elude your Jehovah and his prophets?
I have told you the REASON perhaps you know a better approach please tell us. cheesy
AbuTwins:
And the Christian claim Jesus was like Moses! Moses fought wars and got married! He was not barren! He save people from Pharaoh before he died!
Both of them served as GODS in their lifetime that's what no human did throughout history! Exodus 7:1; John 1:1
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor and Church Members Publicly Destroy Bibles, Claiming Inaccuracies (Video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:49am On Feb 04, 2025
AbuTwins:
A Muslim is one who submits to the will of Allah. If he doesn't submit then how is he a Muslim? Only Salah doesn't make one a Muslim..many pray Salah and still go to church or fortune tellers!
Did Jesus mention this your thought? Jesus could have said it and we'll know! Seems you're wiser than the biblical Jesus!
Please quote the law they wanted to apply for everyone to see if they are doing the right thing.

Jesus used the WISEST way to condemn their hypocrisy if they truly want to do it as stated in the law two people are to be stoned not one so for that they have SINNED that's why they couldn't stone her again because they know they are all sinners for that act! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor and Church Members Publicly Destroy Bibles, Claiming Inaccuracies (Video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:42am On Feb 04, 2025
AbuTwins:
Foolishness is when you can't inform Jehovah to have told Moses, Joshua and Samson all these! Not to kill others but preach to them as you do door to door! And it's not all those who pray Salah that are Muslims. You don't know who a Muslim is. You're extremely ignorant.
God's people were allowed to fight and kill nations who are against the establishment of pure worship in the land of Canaan not fighting and killing indiscriminately o! cheesy

AbuTwins:
I have not seen any Muslim kill another Muslim since I have been living in Lagos for many decades. How do you know those killing one another are Muslims? Are all those calling themselves Christians Christians to you?
Now you are talking!
Please are the rulers of Iraq and Iran both sending your Allah worshipers to fight and kill themselves Muslims?
YES or NO?
AbuTwins:
It's been long I chatted with someone so unintelligent to say the least! You just keep judging Islam with ignorance and pettiness!
Let Islam prove itself by stopping fighting and killing among those claiming worshipers of the same Allah first! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor and Church Members Publicly Destroy Bibles, Claiming Inaccuracies (Video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:37am On Feb 04, 2025
AbuTwins:
You don't even understand the Islam you left. And you keep judging Islam with this deficient knowledge. You can worship who you don't know! You left Islam because you are ignorant, blind and dumb.
A god that's indifferent to the killings going on within it's worshipers shey?

I hear you! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Please We Equally Need Sharia Law In South East by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:36am On Feb 04, 2025
SheikhMuniru:
They are submissive, you haven't be there before, I lived with them, I stayed with them for years in Imo, Delta, Calabar, etc. You are there in your village typing nonsense!
You don't know what it means to submit because that's the reason why Europeans handed over the politics of Nigeria to Hausa and Yorùbá who have deep respect for superior authority chosen among them while Igbos don't.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Jesus Say, 'I Did Not Come To Bring Peace, But A Sword' (matthew 10:34)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:33am On Feb 04, 2025
AbuTwins:
That's because Jehovah didn't militarise them.
Those whom Jehovah militarise fought for him.
Moses, Joshua and Samson for example.
And Jehovah didn't mention paradise for Christians anywhere in your Bible!
Jehovah allowed His worshipers to fight and kill nations who were against the establishment of pure worship in Canaan but after Jesus declared that pure worship is no longer about a particular location {John 4:24} there is no reason for true worshipers to fight and kill again because they must go out and help people of all nations to become worshipers of the true God anywhere they may be. Matthew 28:19-20

That eludes your Allah and it's prophet! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor and Church Members Publicly Destroy Bibles, Claiming Inaccuracies (Video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:26am On Feb 04, 2025
AbuTwins:
You actually left Islam because you are ignorant, blind and dumb! Everything you typed here reeks of ignorance! A mob is not meant to judge crime but the Shari'ah judge in a Shari'ah court. You just keep proving yourself unintelligent and ignorant of anything in Islam. Even those people are more blind than you! And as you know a one-eyed man is king in the world of the blind! And they should use Israeli laws but not Islamic laws right? Is it not the same law of stoning the adulterer that Jesus rejected? Lol.
Your Muslim brother instantly turned his back against your Sharia.
Jesus didn't reject the stoning of adulterers but the mob were a hypocrites because God's law says both the man and woman that committed it should be slaughtered so if they brought only a woman abeg did she commit adultery all by herself? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor and Church Members Publicly Destroy Bibles, Claiming Inaccuracies (Video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:22am On Feb 04, 2025
AbuTwins:
You always repeat "that's why you left Islam" as if you're pained! Islam is not in need of you! And yes Allah will make it easy for those He wills to make it easy for! You left Islam because that's your destiny! Just as Allah destined Pharaoh and many others to reject the truth.
I think your Bible said Jehovah hardened his heart. Hell must be filled up even if JWs don't believe in it.
This is a sound reason to believe your Allah! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor and Church Members Publicly Destroy Bibles, Claiming Inaccuracies (Video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:20am On Feb 04, 2025
AbuTwins:
This is just many of your lies. Jehovah witnesses ended no wars. That's why you can never mention any war. You just kept using equivocation as if you're chatting with a kid! Allah's aim is for us to worship him. Your own aim is to prevent wars, wars that your biblical Jesus said nations will rise against nations as part of the signs of the end times. If non-Muslim nations can be fighting such as Ukraine and Russia what stops some Muslims fighting?
Here is where intelligence missed you if one person out of a thousand willingly surrender his weapons, vow never to raise weapons against anyone and keep going from one place to another teaching people to do the same that means the thought of war has ended in the mind of such a person and those that listened to him.
Islam teaches that the best speaker is the one calling for salat but when such a person hears the call to go fighting and killing even those who heed his call for salat there's nothing wrong! smiley

AbuTwins:
Allah created us to worship him alone! Whether we fight amongst ourselves or not the sole aim is to worship Allah till the end! You are getting old! I don't think senility is far from you. I never mentioned any of the epistle you've been typing! Show us what John read in your Bible! Not guesses!
Your Allah created you to worship it even though you're killing yourselves it's of no relevance but the same Allah say you must not kill abeg how does your Allah expect you to correlate? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Jesus Say, 'I Did Not Come To Bring Peace, But A Sword' (matthew 10:34)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:27am On Feb 04, 2025
AbuTwins:
Wasn't there a time Christians were fighting Christians in the revolution and slave trade periods?
Does that mean Jesus's messages was also defective to Christians?
Jesus is the CHRIST.
He never fought a single war.
His first century disciples never fought any war.

Do you still think anyone fighting to kill his neighbours is a Christian? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor and Church Members Publicly Destroy Bibles, Claiming Inaccuracies (Video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:24am On Feb 04, 2025
AbuTwins:
Bible is new plus old testament! You guys base your life mainly on the new testament. You don't follow most of the laws in the old testament if not all.
Do you still use eye for eye and tooth for tooth?
Another reason why i left Islam!

You people have no comprehension skill, how can you be quoting the laws a God gave the nation that's in one geographical location claiming it must be applied on people who are living in different countries with diverse cultural background?
That's why i say no Muslim can be gentle because instead of allowing people to live according to their conscience your religion wants to force it's laws on them.
The last time a thief was caught in my area the boys wanted to burn him alive but when they saw me they asked "pastor this man stole planks belonging to a hardworking carpenter" i knew the guy to be a Muslim because i always see him going for salat so i asked him if he will like the angry boys to judge him using the Sharia he started begging me kneeling as if i'm his God seeing how those boys respected me so i asked him if he will like us to use the laws God gave ancient Israel regarding how to treat a thief, after reading the Bible himself and the boys were fully convinced that it's the best form of judgement but only one came back to ask me why no country is applying such wise judgement! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor and Church Members Publicly Destroy Bibles, Claiming Inaccuracies (Video) by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:13am On Feb 04, 2025
AbuTwins:
grin but I'm not bittered! I'm a gentle soul!
I can say it anywhere that there is no way a true Muslim can be a gentle soul it's just impossible, for your information that is why i left Islam because even when i tried to be a gentle soul the religion won't permit me.
How can you be a gentle soul when your God tells you that no matter what you do even though you've done everything to please him you're not justified? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Jesus Say, 'I Did Not Come To Bring Peace, But A Sword' (matthew 10:34)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:09am On Feb 04, 2025
MightySparrow:
PIMOs wíll be imprisoned in their conscience and 'apoststes'will be shunned; fathers will disowned by same Jehovah's Witnesses' families, husband abandoned their wives and children from one kingdom Hall and comfortably fellowship in another. gringringrin.

Deluded faithfool fifu.gringrin
At least you admit that only Jehovah's Witnesses are PRACTICING what Jesus taught so his statement is taking full course in our gathering even though we aren't threatening anybody with weapons other than SHUNNING them just as Jesus and his apostles taught us! Matthew 18:17; Romans 16:17-18; Titus 3:10; 2John 10-11 smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: If God is love, why did He harden Pharaoh's heart in Exodus 9:12?" by MaxInDHouse(m):
TheDevilsBride:
...a pity, indeed, that so far, your argument can bear no fruits grin.
Someone, it seems, has never heard of secular counseling or community outreach programs. He's also, completely in the dark, for some odd reason, about the revolutionary concept of compassionate human connection that doesn't require any spurious divine franchise. Is there anything, our friend Maximus here, actually knows about life outside the confines of his religious bubble, hmmm?
Fruit is not whether you admit that what you're reading is true or false rather the fruit is a person who has yielded to wise counsel. As for reaching out to people it's a one on one thing not just listening to your radio or attending seminars {Malachi 3:16} that's why atheists are trying to speak with people but they don't know how to go about it since they are not sent by anyone unlike Christians sent to do so! Matthew 28:19-20 smiley

TheDevilsBride:
Well, I don't claim a moral high ground, however, I actually and humbly work towards it, without any need for a divine permission slip, or any promise of heavenly brownie points, lol.
That's what each and everyone will like to do but then it's impossible to make any meaningful impact when you're not reasoning one on one with your neighbour who will ask you thought provoking questions like i'm doing now that proves you're not doing anything.

TheDevilsBride:
It's pretty convenient that you conflate the metaphorical "FRUIT!" of your faith with the very real consequences of human actions we face everyday, while at the same time, ignoring the glaring absence of a control group to test your funny claims, lol.
We are not ignoring anything rather we are working on those who avail themselves to know what God has in stock for peace lovers since each of you feel like doing things your own way and we are commanded never to force anyone! Matthew 10:16

TheDevilsBride:
...and you're still playing whack-a-mole, cherry-picking only those scriptures that support your pacifist stance, and still not addressing the plethora of passages that condone violence, genocide, slavery, bloodlust etc etc, acting as if they don't exist. The way you keep running in circles, repeating yourself, I just hope you don't dizzy yourself too much, and pass out from disorientation, lmao.
Things happens for a reason so if you're not aware of the reason you may end up thinking that what happened yesterday must continue even when there is an ongoing exercise to end it. Psalms 46:9smiley

TheDevilsBride:
Why you sounding like you getting worked up, lmao? Anyway, I didn't want to go down this route initially as I suspected, and still suspect, that you clearly have troubles, with comprehending basic cues and elements of logic. But at any rate, I'm only going to cite this here for readers that might care to know, that you've been committing a logical fallacy known as the No True Scotsman fallacy.

No true Scotsman or appeal to purity is an informal fallacy in which one modifies a prior claim in response to a counterexample by asserting the counterexample is excluded by definition.[1][2][3] Rather than admitting error or providing evidence to disprove the counterexample, the original claim is changed by using a non-substantive modifier such as "true", "pure", "genuine", "authentic", "real", or other similar terms.[4][2]

Philosophy professor Bradley Dowden explains the fallacy as an "ad hoc rescue" of a refuted generalization attempt.[1] The following is a simplified rendition of the fallacy:[5]

Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge."
Person A: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
Abeg this your Philosophy professor Bradley Dowden how many people has he helped to stop hating their neighbours as in uprooting the cause of hatred in their hearts?
You people just like following white people claiming you have woken up from some kind of slumber yet it's still these white men who are directing how you should think. Just imagine i'm talking about what people around you are doing to end hatred you are quoting some white man who don't even know what is making people to kill people! smiley

TheDevilsBride:
I only take comfort in the knowledge that being a JW yourself, most other Christians consider you a heretic and infidel. So you're pretty much hellbound, in their book, lmao
As usual, you'll always look for a fall guy to absolve your tribe of any responsibility for the atrocities committed in the name of your Lord. Nothing new to see here.
That's exactly the same way i often view JWs before i became one of them but now i know better there is no religion or school of thought that's helping mankind to think out of the box of politics except Jehovah's Witnesses. If it's only Jehovah's Witnesses that are living on this planet the earth will be a Paradise that's an indisputable fact!


TheDevilsBride:
I see the logic here, outsourcing the dirty work to divine hitmen, while you reap the rewards of moral superiority, lmao. Your cognitive dissonance is the real comedy routine here, I must confess, lol.
Absolutely, you're very damn right, they were, wiith a fervor that would make a serial killer look like an amateur enthusiast, lmao.
As a matter of fact, "ascertaining things" is precisely what led me away from the fairy tales you're still clutching at, so desperately. Take you own advice sometime, and "ascertain things" for yourself, lmao. You'd be surprised what happens to your mind when you apply critical thinking instead of theological Stockholm syndrome.
Actually you never ascertain a single thing all you are doing is PROTESTING your username says it all "TheDevilsBride" meaning you just want to claim nobody can advise or counsel you after all you're betrothed to the devil himself and you're proud of it.
So my dear you're just protesting there's nothing more. smiley


TheDevilsBride:
I truly mean no offense here, but this isn't even a coherent sentence, let alone a viable explanation to present as justification, for the endless trail of violence and bloodshed that, as evidenced by history, follows in the wake of exercising blind faith. Perhaps you can explain to us why your God needs to allow his worshippers to fight any battles in the first place? Is he incapable of resolving issues without recourse to needless violence?
I have told you before but since you forgot i will do it again!
After Adam and Eve God allowed humans to do things themselves for centuries before introducing Himself to Abraham and promised to establish Paradise through this man. But by then the whole world were worshiping demons who were using them as scapegoats to claim Gods in different geographical locations therefore the only way to prove a God greater than the other is the strength of the armies of such a God that's why God allowed His worshipers to engage pagan nations in wars and whenever they are doing what He says no Nation can conquer them no matter the size of such army.
Do you get it now? smiley

TheDevilsBride:
You know, I feel a soft spot for you at times, reading your robotic responses, lol. Your naivete would actually be charming if it weren't so monumentally dangerous.
Naaaaaaaaah it's a battle that your fellow atheists reading needs to see how the PHYCOLOGICAL WAR ends so don't tire out let me see how strong your brain is in defending Atheism the school of thought that promotes isolation! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Churches That Fully Rejects Jesus But Worship God Only by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:25pm On Feb 03, 2025
MindHacker9009:
No the name Messiah is only for who can fulfill these:

1. Rebuilding the Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28) - Not predict it's destruction
2. Gathering the Jewish Exiles from around the world back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 11:12, Ezekiel 36:24)
3. Establishing World Peace and ending war (Isaiah 2:4, Micah 4:3)
4. Bringing Universal Knowledge of God so all people recognize and worship the One God (Zechariah 14:9, Jeremiah 31:33)
5. Restoring the Davidic Dynasty as an eternal and righteous kingdom (Jeremiah 23:5-6)
6. Upholding the Torah and Its Laws, ensuring that Jewish law is observed worldwide (Ezekiel 37:24)
Guy Messiah (Hebrew) and Christ (Greek) means the same thing! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: If God is love, why did He harden Pharaoh's heart in Exodus 9:12?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:19pm On Feb 03, 2025
TheDevilsBride:
Smh, you just had to cite a Bible verse, and trot out the most generic list of virtues, lmao. Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control can all be found also, in Buddhist monasteries and humanist community centers, lol.
What a pity?
How many Buddhists or humanists are going to meet people in their homes to convince them on the reason why they should possess these qualities?
Ọmọ there's a difference between claiming something and WORKING to achieve it. That's faith in action contrary to what you atheists assume about faith!


TheDevilsBride:
No problemo. Oya, so how then, do you empirically distinguish between the "fruits" of your Holy Spirit and the result of groupthink, mass delusion, confirmation bias, or mere emotional manipulation, hmmm?
FRUIT is what we enjoy and sow part of it to multiply, each Christian must continue preaching and teaching people in his or her neighbourhood to become peace loving so if any religion is not doing the same they can't bear the same FRUIT!

TheDevilsBride:
Who said it does? Please take a good squint around the corner, and read between the lines, as you've woefully missed the point again, lmao. It is, more specifically, the disagreement among various Christian denominations, over whose version of the divine dictator gets to dictate the terms of the agreement, that leads to the violence.
Funny enough true Christians must not harm anyone! Matthew 5:43-48; 10:16; Luke 6:27-28
So say something else because when you see people carrying weapons to kill their neighbours they are not true Christians but Satan's agents planted as weed to confuse people like you! Matthew 13:25


TheDevilsBride:
Pardon me as I genuflect before the altar of your hypocrisy, whilst I remind you that your Lord's advice to "walk away peacefully" is a luxury not afforded to the countless unbelievers, pagans, heretics, witches, and infidels slaughtered violently in the name of your Prince of Peace throughout history.
Such killers are Satan's agents planted to confuse people like you not intelligent people like me. Once anyone carries weapons to support a fight such a person is not a Christian! Matthew 26:52

TheDevilsBride:
Subtlety isn't your strong suit, I've noticed. Anyways, see above.
For the life of me, I'll never understand why people like you are quick to display outright mendacity, cherry-picking verses that fit your narrative, even as you conveniently handwave, and ignore the ones that instruct you to, for example, kill non-believers (Luke 19:27, 2 Chronicles 15:13). You trying to walk the tightrope, with this selective scripture-surfing, is nothing short of bald-faced duplicity.
Jesus will surely order his heavenly armies to slaughter enemies of his peaceful people so things will not always be like this but we must remain peaceful to prove we are following his orders when the time comes angels will do their work not humans fighting and killing one another!

TheDevilsBride:
Test? Oya, with what abeg? Let me guess: blind faith and "just trust me, bro"? Lmao grin.
The fact that you submit blindly, and without a mind of your own, to ancient superstitions, is already proof that you wouldn't know what reason was, even if it held you down, and pissed in your face. Maybe you should start by consulting those bloody history books and take your time to notice the rather inconvenient correlation between faith and fanaticism, before you come here spouting nonsense in your ignorance, smh, lmao.
Funny atheist!
So to you faithful people were fighting and killing their own fellow worshipers back then shey?
Why is it that you atheists don't just want to ascertain things instead you just assume you know it all?
Even when God allows His worshipers to fight it's not about religion but the place where pure worship is established that Satan wants to pollute. So it's not just fighting and killing as you assume.

TheDevilsBride:
Call it whatever you'd like as well, but I'm sure the victims and casualties of the Crusades, Inquisitions, colonial genocides, sectarian wars, and other religiously-motivated conflicts would strongly disagree with your trite pronouncements.
No weapon carrier fighting in support of any leader is a Christian that's the truth so your so called history is based on biased protest against the truth! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: If God is love, why did He harden Pharaoh's heart in Exodus 9:12?" by MaxInDHouse(m):
TheDevilsBride:
Mr. Maximus the "fruit" inspector, how do you tell "fruits" that are entirely indistinguishable from the placebo effect, hmmm? And what do you suppose, is the litmus test for these '"fruits"?
When you plant a tree {John 15:1} surely there must be a specific FRUIT you expect to reap nah! Galatians 5:22-23
So the fruit of true religion means adherents will be peace loving worshipers this doesn't say they will be perfect but you will notice the nine qualities of the fruit of God's Holy Spirit permeating their gathering!


TheDevilsBride:
My lack of belief isn't the problem, but rather, your belief that your particular brand of it is the only valid one is what fuels all the violence, rage, and fisticuffs. Please, try to keep up. I thought your Holy Spirit was supposed to inspire wisdom, not witless whataboutism, smh.
How can agreement fuel violence nah? cheesy
Ma it's disagreement that leads to chaos as disciples of the Prince of Peace once you disagree with us the command from our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus is to walk away peacefully! Matthew 10:11-13 compare to Proverbs 17:14
So i wonder how that could ever lead to violence o! undecided

TheDevilsBride:
After you, Maximus. Do tell us, how you plan to "cohabit peacefully" with those who don't share your faith, when your holy book is filled with instructions on how to treat infidels. Go on.
We go about searching for friends of peace in every nation {Luke 10:6} so that we can form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Act 1:8; Isaiah 2:4} so how does that mean we treat others as infidels? smiley

TheDevilsBride:
And I keep telling you that mathematics and deities aren't interchangeable. You're committing a false equivocation fallacy. One can be tested, one can't. Perhaps you need me to use crayons to explain this elementary distinction better?
You keep amusing me with the highlighted because it's you who refuse to follow the only process given to TEST what we are saying as you just want to do it your own way! smiley


TheDevilsBride:
Is this your new angle? Gender-based condescension?
It's faithlessness that's causing wars in all the earth so as a female i know you should be interested in how to curb it not turning against reasonableness just because you want to protest against what you don't understand. smiley

TheDevilsBride:
You've perfectly made your point about God's bias and selective benevolence clear, so no need to keep re-writing these passive-aggressive sticky notes, lmao.
Call it whatever ma there is no other way mankind can cohabit peacefully other than following the teachings of Jesus Christ the Prince of Peace! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Churches That Fully Rejects Jesus But Worship God Only by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:24pm On Feb 03, 2025
MindHacker9009:
The name Christ is man made to refer to anyone teaching the Torah in a new way. Will you also say because they called Jesus 'teacher' then no one else should use the word teacher.
The title RABBI (Hebrew) is the same as TEACHER (English) so it is common among first century Jews but CHRIST is totally prohibited because it means the promised Messiah who will deliver them from their enemies.
That's what two Judaists tried to do before the time of Jesus but they both lost their lives and all their followers were scattered! Luke 5:36-37

Regarding these impostors Jesus Christ said:

All those who have come in place of me are thieves and plunderers; but the sheep have not listened to them. John. 10:8

So the CHRIST is expected to be a great leader who will come and establish something new.

That's why i'm asking you to tell me who is the CHRIST through whom these religions are claiming CHRISTIANS? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: I Don't Believe A Muslim Is Truly Smart And Spiritually Honest by MaxInDHouse(m):
Jesus said to his disciples:

“Do not go off into the road of the nations, and do not enter any Sa·marʹi·tan city; but instead, go continually to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" Matthew 10:5-6

Let's analyze the highlighted:

*LOST
*SHEEP
*HOUSE
*ISRAEL

The LOST. Sincere and honest hearted people born or raised in false religions.

The SHEEP. Because they are sincere and honest hearted they are like sheep without a shepherd seeking divine guidance.

HOUSE. Such ones strongly believe that there can't be two religions doing the will of one God so they won't jump from one religion to another because they are loyal.

ISRAEL. This is the first man who cherish spiritual inheritance with all his heart {Genesis 25:33-34} so people like him are born or raised in false religions.

That is the reason why Jesus said we should continue going to such ones because they belong to the true God as faithful and loyal worshipers.

Would you like to know how to identify such ones? smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: God Is Everywhere But God Is Not In Every Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:53pm On Feb 03, 2025
Thankgod89:
It sounds like you’re saying that God, though capable of being everywhere, has chosen to limit His presence for a purpose. That’s an interesting perspective. Could you elaborate on what you believe that reason is?
According to the Bible He is a happy God {1Timothy 1:11} this means He hates to be sad {Genesis 6:6} so He restricted Himself to focus only on faithful people who always makes Him proud {Proverbs 27:11 compare to Job 1:8} that's why His only begotten son could say unbelievers are dead from God's standpoint {Luke 9:60} because they are like any other creature so He doesn't even know they exist since their dealings will sadden His hearts and His eyes are too pure to look at evil deeds {Habakkuk 1:13} this is the reason why He empower some angels to serve as His eyes {Ezekiel 10:12} these are the creatures that are moving throughout the earth {2 Chronicles 16:9} they are the ones bringing reports back to Him regarding where things are becoming unbearable! Genesis 18:20-21

But by the time He brings His judgement and destroy all evildoers He will return to His former ways of looking at everything because by then the earth will be filled with His knowledge and His blessings will be upon all those living! Isaiah 11:9

God bless you and may you have PEACE!
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Jesus Say, 'I Did Not Come To Bring Peace, But A Sword' (matthew 10:34)? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:17pm On Feb 03, 2025
AbuTwins:
How is his mission different from what others did?
The prophets of God brings messages that separates faithful people from the faithless ones but Muhammad's message has no just reason because Muslims are fighting and killing themselves over Muhammad's message! huh

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