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LordReed:
Yes because it a fairytale. A god who can only appear to people who believe is a figment of their imagination.

So if you're truly convinced deep down in your heart that it's all imagination then you don't have to join those who are imagining nah.
Or are you still in doubt regarding your stand?

DeepSightZ:
The quotes are there. I presented them to you. If you dont realise those are questions, thats up to you. Obviously you are afraid.

When you are ready my guy WHEN YOU ARE READY!

DeepSightZ:
Go on deceiving yourself with excuses for madness.

When you are ready you will humbly ask your questions!

bixton:
Gen.18.20 - And the LORD said, "Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grave,
Gen.18.21 - I will go down now and see whether they have done altogether according to the outcry against it that has come to Me; and if not, I will know."



Please read both verses again and let me know if you still stand by your comment...

The highlighted is self explanatory!

DeepSightZ:
You gave no reason. You only showed yourself as completely bereft of morals, bloodthirsty, ritualistic and pagan.
Besides, that incident with the Amalekites is by no means the only case of Yahweh displaying his barbarism.
There are many.

If you don't understand something just ask no one will flog you for asking! Matthew 7:7-8

DeepSightZ:
Enjoy yourself. You are barbaric and enslaved. Thats all.

No wahala at least you have known the reason why God ordered Israelites to kill all the Amalekites. Go and explain to your fellow atheists that a Bible believer has helped you to unravel the secret!

DeepSightZ:
What sound reasons? There are no reasons to mass murder infants.

Guy if you don't know something ask for insight not just jumping to conclusions.

Haman who plotted that all Jews should be exterminated was the only baby who escaped that annihilation son of Agag the king of Amalek. 1Samuel 15:8; Esther 3:1

DeepSightZ:
Sweet Jesus. You are actually justifying the mass murder of infants. There is nothing you will not defend. I am sure if your Bible says that Alhaji Maiguno should rape your wife, mother and sister seven times a day, you will find a way to justify it.

You must not do this to Jehovah your God, because they do for their gods every detestable thing that Jehovah hates, even burning their sons and their daughters in the fire to their gods. Deuteronomy 12:31

You people hate the truth.
Because i gave you sound reasons now you want to start emotionally blackmail can you quote where Israelites were ordered to rape anyone?

DeepSightZ:
And what did the infants and cattle do?

No one will cater for their infants and it's unwise to keep them because when they grow up they will surely fight against their guardians after hearing the story.
They have mated with their cattles that's why the animals must be destroyed for them not to start bearing half human half animal!

LordReed:
I was quoting your book

In which God never spoke nor act due to demands of atheists!

DeepSightZ:
Peace with neighbours?
Please dont even start.
You surely are not talking about the God of the Bible who instructed his chosen people to slaughter their neighbours - even insisting that they must kill every child and all cattle as well?
1 Samuel 15:3 - “Now go and attack the Amalekites and completely destroy everything they have. Do not spare them. Kill men and women, infants and nursing babies, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.”

You only read without understanding and instead of asking:
WHY?
You just summed up everything in your shallow mind that you've gotten it all.

Those people are worshipers of demons who requires they should sacrifice their children by throwing them into the fire alive.
They mate with their animals and practices barbaric sexual activities.

That's why God told His worshipers to exterminate them since they will not leave the land for His worshipers!

kingxsamz:
I don't care about your little story, your analogy about a referee helping one win was just silly.

Mr atheist this is faith in action it often has nothing to do with ATHEISM!

TheDevilsBride:
How can a God who plays infantile, selective hide-and-seek games, with his own creation that he loves so much, be the foundation of objective morality?

Morality comes to mind when you have neighbours and peace with neighbours is evidence of the highest form of moral!

LordReed:
How does quoting your favourite book of Jewish mythology change anything?

You were quoting to support your demand saying what He did for misinformed religionists worshiping lesser Gods He should do the same for you when you guys don't believe in the existence of supernaturals!

TheDevilsBride:
Provide a reputable academic source to back up your claim. So far, the reality is stacked against you .

The Bible is enough for me.
The word used is ALMIGHTY not OMNIPOTENT!

TheDevilsBride:
They're the same thing. Try again !

Failed reference!

Almighty: power to do all things but can't do evil.
Omnipotent: can do both evil and good.

TheDevilsBride:
Also, you've portrayed your God here as lacking infinite goodness. In that case, what then makes him a source of morality?

He has gathered His worshipers globally as His WITNESSES {Isaiah 43:10} we now have one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers from different nations throughout the earth! Isaiah 2:2-4

So all you need to do is present a better organization than the organization that has removed weapons in the hearts of all their members!

TheDevilsBride:
That's not exactly a ringing endorsement of his omnipotence, though. So we're back to the question I asked you earlier, if your God clearly lacks omnipotence, then why is he called "God"? Can you give a sufficient answer this time, lol?

Back and forth shey?

He is ALMIGHTY not OMNIPOTENT!

LordReed:
Mmmhmm, like I said a figment of your imagination.

Yet you've been quoting the Bible to prove that you have something tangible to say before!

kingxsamz:
Is the referee there to help you win or to observe the game and make sure rules are maintained?

In the illustration the referee is not just a referee for both Satan and mankind but to set rules so that angels in heaven can confirm that truly humans deserve to be called God's image.
Satan needs to prove that humans can't stand the pressure but turn against God in the face of trial so God set the rules that both Satan and humans must abide by to win.

For instance God told Satan in his fight against Job:

"You must not take his life" Job 2:6

vexing:
Paul kept referring to himself as an Apostle but he was not among the twelve called by Jesus. So should we refer to Paul as an Apostle instead of a disciple? I will need your view on this topic.

There are thirteen Apostles chosen by Jesus, Judas Iscariot was replaced with Matthias. Twelve apostles were chosen to help gather the 144,000 BORN AGAIN Christians who are supposed to be chosen only among the Israelites {Revelations 7:5-8} but when Israelites refused to accept Jesus the privilege was open for people from other nations to complete the limited number {Matthew 22:7-10} so Jesus told the twelve:

“Truly I say to you, in the re-creation, when the Son of man sits down on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will sit on 12 thrones, judging the 12 tribes of Israel" Matthew 19:28

But what is the assignment given to the thirteenth Apostle?

Because the deserving ones refused to accept the Christ John said the privilege was made open to people from other nations to complete the limited 144,000 BORN AGAIN Christians to rule with Christ in heaven {Revelations 14:1-3} so Jesus picked interest in a zealous Judaist who is sincere and honest hearted that's why Jesus used Paul! Act 9:15

So while the twelve apostles remain in Jerusalem gathering the BORN AGAIN Paul was chosen to start gathering both the BORN AGAIN and other sheep among the nations this is necessary because Jerusalem has been marked for destruction which will mark the end of the Jews as a nation and after Jerusalem has been destroyed the invitation will no longer be given to them as descendants of Jacob that's why Jesus gave Paul the authority to establish Churches in many countries as an apostle for the nations! Romans 11:13; 1Timothy 2:7

LordReed:
I wasn't the one changing mouth upandan.

God never spoke nor act for an atheist He only act to help worshipers of lesser Gods know that the Almighty is around but when you have no ground He will never succumb to your demand!

TheDevilsBride:
Challenging God's authority means questioning or opposing the will or commands of a deity.

Bible God performed signs to prove that He is the Almighty as those challenging His authority believes they have options when it comes to the God they will obey.
But in the case of you people there's nothing to establish so God won't show you any sign He will neither speak not act!

LordReed:
You are actually confirming that your god is nothing but a figment of your imagination. Bwahahahahahahaha!

So back to where you belong after seeing that God never did what you are demanding!

fuckJones:
Satan's greatest enemy is God, specifically Jesus Christ; as Satan is considered the adversary of God and seeks to undermine his power and influence, making Jesus, as the Son of God, his primary target and opponent.

That could have been settled in the spirit realms without having any impact on the lives of humans on planet earth but Satan views humans as his real enemies.

To illustrate think of a politician who wants to rule people by all means of course the incumbent ruler supposed to be his primary enemy but when the people prefer the incumbent ruler to him the next thing such a politician will do is to make life miserable for the citizens in order for them to speak against their ruler.

In that circumstance his enemies are now the citizens who prefer the other ruler because if they should go for an election he will always loose so in order to win the heart of the people he needs to start doing something in secret that will make life miserable for the people.

It's political, religion is just the veil used in blindfolding those zombies into killing their own brothers and sisters!

LordReed:
Stop flogging the already dead horse.

God never spoke to anyone who doesn't believe in the existence of supernaturals!

Aemmyjah:
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This comment is really serious if I should say something
How's Satan, who has tried to damage Jehovah's name with lies and try to turn billions away from worshipping humans attacking pure worship, not God's enemy?
Where did God not promise to kill Satan?
Cos the Bible says opposite
Sometimes, why I don't drop comments lately on NL is cos, too much conversation with these people can actually make one sin by saying things that are wrong or abusive.
If I have someone that keeps lying and promoting lies against me making me feel cruel, uncaring, non existent and making people do what I hate and turning loyal ones against me, that person is my greatest enemy o

The context differ!

If it's between God and Satan alone then we can say Satan is God's enemy but in the case involving humans the enmity between Satan and God is secondary as each human needs to prove victorious against Satan who claimed we can't truly be loyal to our Creator under certain circumstances {Job 2:4-5} it's in this context that atheists are speaking not in support of God for they feel everything is a joke.
So it's better to let them know that if it's between God and Satan alone nothing supposed to affect our own welfare here on planet earth but we are Satan's real enemies not Jehovah because he knows that no matter what he does Jehovah will forever be vindicated but when it comes to humans most of us will be defeated to prove that he is right with what he said about us {Job 2:4-5} that's why Jehovah told us:

Be wise, my son, and make my heart rejoice, So that I can make a reply to him who taunts me. Proverbs 27:11

From the above quote please who is Satan targeting as his enemies?

Humans or Jehovah?

Remember that if Adam and Eve have remained faithful to God in the garden of Eden Satan would have been destroyed instantly but it's their failure that kept him living till today to prove if all humans will fail like Adam and Eve!

LordReed:
It's you who needs to humble himself and admit you goofed and had to switch tracks several times. I bet you a million dollars if we had found an example to counter you last excuse, you would have reached for yet another. That is not a sign of honesty or humility.

TheDevilsBride:
Cherry-picked biblical examples to support your claim, whilst ignoring those that counter it.

You guys are very funny walahi talahi!

Challenging God's authority to you mean someone who is fighting for his own God against another God whereas in reality it means someone who doesn't believe in the existence of supernatural because whether it's the God of Israel or that of Greek they are all Gods so you can't equate such a person with you guys.

Do you get it now?

fuckJones:
my question now is If God is so powerful, why doesn’t he kills Satan instead?

Satan is not God's enemy rather he is man's enemy so asking God to kill Satan is like demanding a referee who already wants to help you win should end the fight when you have not proved to Him such action worths it.

However God has promised to kill Satan but not until those who wins the battle has been gathered throughout the earth!

The only nation God consistently prove His presence to by speaking and acting is the Israelites.
After delivering them from slavery in the land of Egypt God told the Israelites:

"Now if you will strictly obey my voice and keep my covenant, you will certainly become my special property out of all peoples, for the whole earth belongs to me," Exodus 19:5

He told Moses to assemble the entire families of Israel before Him for them to hear Him speak directly from the mountains. Exodus 19:10-13

That was how God spoke directly to an assembly of people for the first time ever by telling them His commandments. Exodus 20:1-17

They have to beg Moses to go and speak with God alone because they are afraid. Exodus 20:18-19

After centuries their descendants were confused as to whether Baal is the true God or Jehovah because false prophets in Israel under Ahab and Jezebel misled the people to worship Baal this is the second time Jehovah proved Himself by answering with fire. 1kings 18:38-39

The last time Jehovah spoke directly from heaven to prove Himself is when Jesus got tired of the stubbornness of the Jews and he said to Jehovah:

"Father, glorify your name" John 12:28a

And Jehovah responded to His son:

“I have glorified it and will glorify it again." John 12:28b

Jesus said his father did that not for him but for those unbelieving Jews to know that he (Jesus) is the Christ! John 12:30

From all these experiences it's clear that God has done what you people are demanding but only for Israelites and they aren't atheists rather they were confused having false religious leaders misleading them.

So who are you people to demand for what God has done several times for a nation yet the entire nation refused to gain wisdom?

He will no longer speak or act in behalf of anyone who just feel too big to take the instructions He gave through His faithful representatives! Luke 16:29-31

Janosky:
Trinity put Gotham brain on jam lock.

He is stylishly begging for our attention instead of humbly asking for a Bible study, according to Paul we need not argue with such a person {1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9} because it will be like giving holy things to dogs or throwing precious gem to swine! Matthew 7:6

Imagine the impetus he even demanded:

GothamCities:
engage me.

Abeg for what?

There is no sin in criticizing what you know is wrong when you are not part of that thing and having something better that you can present.
Jesus criticized the religious leaders of his time too but what most of you failed to understand is that while Jesus was doing this he instantly introduced a better group which he is gathering {Matthew 12:46-50} as a better replacement for Judaism and selected leaders for this new group as he presented them to members of the group! Luke 6:13

The greatest and unforgivable sin is when you are criticizing what religious leaders are doing yet failed to present a better performing group of leaders then you are no longer criticizing humans but the works of God's Holy Spirit because that's the only work you can never ever find anything better to replace! Matthew 12:31-32