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Sirmwill:
27. "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28. bless those who curse you, pray for those who ill-treat you. 29. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. 30. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31. Do to others as you would have them do to you. 32. "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even`sinners' love those who love them. 33. And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even`sinners' do that. 34. And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even`sinners' lend to`sinners', expecting to be repaid in full. 35. But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. 37. "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. 38. Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." 39. He also told them this parable: "Can a blind man lead a blind man? Will they not both fall into a pit? 40. A student is not above his teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like his teacher. 41. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 42. How can you say to your brother,`Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. 43. "No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. 44. Each tree is recognised by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thorn-bushes, or grapes from briers. 45. The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For out of the overflow of his heart his mouth speaks. 46. "Why do you call me,`Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say? (Luke 6: 27-46)



If you have not been doing all of the above then you have never been a Christian, you have only been going to a building "called Church"

The purpose of true religion is to inculcate all these in the minds of members through prayer and consistent repetition.

That's what makes it a RELIGION!

Sirmwill:
Where exactly did you see all of these?
I need to see the words "form one big family of peace loving worshippers"

Jesus is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} that's why he ordered us to go and find friends of peace in their individual home {Luke 10:6} after finding them we must baptize them as members of the group {Matthew 28:19} and inculcate in them what Jesus taught us {Matthew 28:20} that's how we are going to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers throughout the earth! Act 1:8 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

You can't find this word for word that's why you must be TAUGHT to know the significance of Christ and Christianity.

recklesslove:
Can you get justice in the police station or church today? Why not try Ayelala? Our traditional religion can handle our problems.

It's a lie!

No traditional religion can do such things they will continue to complicate issues.

All spirits operates the same way because they are not related to any human so for them to serve justice all those involved must be equal before the spirit.

For instance if we want any spirit be it Ṣàngó or Ògún or Ayélála to serve justice in today's political arena we must all agree to earn the same amount as salary and incentives then we will tell the god in question to strike whoever takes anything apart from what we all received EQUALLY.

But in the case where you people want to pay some huge amount of money and pay others peanuts you have handcuffed the gods they will step aside watching you to do whatever you want.

So from the president to those sweeping the streets all must receive the same salary and incentives after all they all pledge to serve Nigeria with all their strength.

You people will say "that's not how it's done in America" so how do you practice what is not just yet you want justice from the spirits who don't know any of you?

Sirmwill:
Christianity started from the way some particular people were living like Jesus that made other people call them Christians
Not
From Paul

NO!

The word "CHRISTIANS" was given to disciples of Jesus who were PREACHING and TEACHING in their neighbourhood just as Jesus who claim he is the CHRIST did! Act 11:26

He gave them this assignment to connect peace lovers throughout the earth and form one big family of peace loving worshipers! Act 1:8

So if anyone is not associating with them he can't meet up with the high standard Jesus taught them!

Sirmwill:
"Christianity" was never established, it was people that started calling some specific people "Christians"
Jesus never came to preach a religion, instead he came to preach a way of life

Please what do you call a RELIGION?

Because Jesus GATHERED people and ordered them to continue GATHERING people who will be BAPTIZED and CONTINUE RECEIVING instructions Jesus taught his disciples {Matthew 28:19-20} they are to form a global network of worshipers practicing what Jesus taught them {Act 1:8} they are to view members as families {Matthew 12:46-50} and whoever disagree with this spiritual family will be treated as an outcast! Matthew 18:15-17

They will pray together and worship together.

So if this is not a RELIGION please what do you call it?

Sirmwill:
Firstly, the criteria to become s Christian is not going to a building with a name on it and a man called a Pastor in there directing everyone. That is not Christianity
AT ALL!

Christianity was established to achieve a goal so religions not achieving that goal aren't part of Christianity!

recklesslove:
Let's not forget Jesus n Paul ( from where Christianity started ) preached two messages different from each other.
Jesus preached about a kingdom, n the told us that kingdom was within us not outside, Paul came to teach us about another kingdom in heaven.

This is what Christendom taught you not what the Bible teaches!

recklesslove:
something is inherently wrong with Christianity Christendom

Something is wrong with Christendom not Christianity!

You successfully ran away from CHRISTENDOM not CHRISTIANITY!

TenQ:
I don't have your time today!

I will not respond to the attention seeker but you who feels like knowing better than Jesus i will make liars like you run away from the truth!

TenQ:
Please go for deliverance!

Ọmọ deliverance is here at least you can see it happening in the midst of millions who are doing God's will today but it's IRRELEVANT to you!

TenQ:
We are saying the same thing bro: your achievement is irrelevant after all, Adolf Hitler also had his achievements.
You at least have not denied that you have replaced Jesus Christ and His Holy Spirit with men!

I don't have your time today!

Just imagine:
achieving what God promised is IRRELEVANT!

I can never ever deny God's presence!

Jesus warned that whoever fails to recognize his brothers will not inherit God's Kingdom {Matthew 25:46} Paul said we should be obedient to those taking the lead among us {Hebrews 13:7} so if you say we have replaced them for Christ that's how you understood what is happening at least those people have achieved what God promised among His end time worshipers {Isaiah 2:4} it's left to unbelievers to think or say whatever you like against the works of God's Holy Spirit! Matthew 12:31-32

TenQ:
Don't mind them, they are a waste of precious time: they have successfully replaced Christ and His Holy Spirit with their old men in Brooklyn!
The Demon of delusion that has possessed them has a strong hold on them.

‭Isaiah 2:4
He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore. NIV


And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. KJV

He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. NWT

Our OLDER MEN REPLACEMENT have achieved the above among their followers throughout the earth! 1Peter 5:5

Na wah o!

Please if i may ask:

Truthseeker10
Steep
DaddyCool
Nachmonides
Gothamcities

Do you all agree on TRINITY?
If so why all these arguments?

DaddyCoool:
The statement is "wars and rumors of wars" meaning "wars going on and rumors of wars going on" Clearly not what you described. Thanks for your effort anyway, I'm just tired of that anachronistic phrase

During the time Jonathan was in office was there WARS going on in some places and even in northern part of Nigeria?

You guys just love arguments below is what you asked specifically "RUMORS OF WAR"

DaddyCoool:
Can you please explain "rumors of wars" in today's context. It seems to me anachronistic - those days it was hard and took time to verify information. Not so today. Either there is a war or there is not. So out with the annoying "rumors of wars" stuff

Steep:
Jesus is the true light. Jesus' disciples reflect the light of christ.

Didn't Jesus also say he REFLECTS the light of his father? John 5:30

ALMUSTAQIM:
Assalaam Alaekum wa Rrahmatullah wa Barakatuh

We Pray Allah to continue to guard and guide us Aright. Increase us in Knowledge, Provisions and Sustenance. Have Mercy on us and Enable us become better MUSLIMS, better NIGERIANS.

Happy Jumaat, Happy Weekend

What do you mean by the highlighted?

DaddyCoool:
Can you please explain "rumors of wars" in today's context.

Politics cause WAR so when a politician found out that with all he has the people refused to accept him as ruler they create confusion among the people which leads to fear and such fears leads to RUMORS OF WAR.

For instance when Jonathan discovered that his opponents are ready to bring war to Nigeria if he didn't leave the office he said:

"I am not desperate to rule and my stay in the office of Mr President doesn't worth the lives of Nigerians"

Why did he make this statement?

Because he heard RUMORS OF IMPENDING WAR if he insisted to remain in the office of Mr President.

Before God established the nation of Israel so many nations practiced different religions and they all felt it's OK since none proves to be superior each only use worshipers to fight for their gods to protect and preserve their religion but when God called Moses and declared He wants to establish His own form of worship His mightiness was felt throughout the inhabited earth back then because He journeyed to Egypt the then most powerful nation with two feeble octogenarians to free His chosen people unlike all other gods who depends on the strength of armies formed by their worshipers the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob fought alone without human armies or physical weapons and freed His own worshipers.
This is the God who never allowed any female to lead males in His worship.
But why do different religions claiming Christians today used females as head over their religions?
Jehovah's Witnesses (modern day worshipers of the true God) claimed that Jesus returned in the year 1914 to restructure his group and afterwards he concentrated on this group till today working with them to gather peace lovers throughout the earth.
What is the import of this message?
Well before the year 1914 there has never been a time females were ordained as bishops in the churches but since that year Jesus ousted Satan in heaven {Revelations 12:7-9} and he is here to cause confusion {Revelations 12:10-12} from that year Jesus began calling faithful people out of false religions claiming Christians {Revelations 18:4} and God has given them another group name! Isaiah 65:15

Check and see if there has ever been a female in history ordained as bishop in the churches before the year 1914 this is evidence that from that year Satan is complicating matters in the churches of Christendom but among God's true worshipers he has no hold!

In pure worship females are not allowed to be head over males {1Corinthians 11:3} and angels takes this seriously! 1Corinthians 11:10

Steep:
John said God is light, that is he describing who God is, meaning whoever can be described as light is God.

You are the LIGHT! Matthew 5:14

Are Jesus' disciples Gods?

The history of God's people must be preserved so that we can know where we are coming from, where we are presently and where we are going. Removing any part will make it hard to understand what led to the things we are doing today!

Steep:
So do you now agree that John said Jesus was God?

The past tense WAS makes a big difference as Moses WAS also God at a point in time {Exodus 7:1} God promised to send a prophet like Moses to Israel {Deuteronomy 18:18} Peter confirmed that this promised prophet is Jesus {Act 3:22} and it is because both Moses and Jesus performed miracles on large scale unlike all other miracle performing prophets, both of them were mediators of a different covenant.
So the word WAS God shouldn't be a matter of great concern after all he WAS with God in the beginning meaning he is not the Almighty God who used him as a prophet!

LordReed:
I am seeing the composite and it is not special. Just show me any period of history in which any of these things didn't occur.

A composite sign is what Jesus gave and surely you can't say earthquakes or food shortages or wars and rumors of war or any of the signs should not have happened before to convince a right thinking person rather what we need is a time all these things will occur simultaneously to prove that the time Jesus talked about is here!

MindHacker9009:
You must be getting paid by your organisation for you to be so submissive to them and will do all you can to defend them because of your love for the money you are getting from them.

If this is your conclusion it's OK.

MindHacker9009:
When you have to fear your master worshipping idols as in Ephesians 6:5: Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. So you will have no choice but to follow and worship your master's idols first before Jesus Christ.

You're not getting the point but i will explain it for you.

All humans are SLAVES under the world rulers whether you like it or not because you don't have any right under their imposed system of rule so whether you choose to serve president A or B you must obey them or loose your life.

That's what Paul and Jesus taught!

The reason for this is because God promised a total freedom when His Kingdom comes that's the time true freedom will be found globally until then we have to serve under these people as SUBJECTS of course when we prove to be obedient they will focus on those kicking against their rules instead of thinking about us and don't forget that they also wants to justify themselves as good rulers so if they are treating obedient subjects under them badly how can their fight against opposers/rebels?

MindHacker9009:
No if they find you gathering elsewhere without putting their idol first then you and others in that gathering will be sold as as slaves

You're really funny!
Slaves to where?
Ọmọ anywhere they take us it's preaching and teaching galore!

It often amuse me each time people who refuse to humble themselves talk about faith because Jesus said those who refuses to gather around him will SCATTER {Luke 11:23} upon all these arguments about Jesus being God or not what is the result?

Whether Jesus is God or not you guys only end up arguing, insulting and abusing one another yet those in support will never gather to talk about how to preach and teach about God's Kingdom neither will those against the OP.


So Satan is truly intelligent because by so doing they will only end up arguing arrogantly without agreeing on how Jesus commanded his disciples to preach and teach in their neighborhood! 2Corinthians 4:4

MindHacker9009:
And they will display their idol in your kingdom hall as the number on religion for you to worship and your Jehovah as secondary and if you agree they there will be peace

Whatever they want we will give them as long as we can go about preaching and teaching the Kingdom of God the Hall is not a problem after all we can gather elsewhere for instructions on how to go about the work

MindHacker9009:
That was not what happened back then.

War was by numbers back then. The Roman empire sent seventy thousand soldiers to Israel and the Jews fought back but they did not have the same numbers as the Romans which led to the Roman taken Jerusalem.

You can surrender to Mali if they match on your town without putting up a fight!

I will surrender to any ruler that proved to be greater among all of them until God comes to establish righteous rule!

MindHacker9009:
What makes slavery and invading another peoples nation ok then but not now? So it's only betraying Jesus that make someone a devil! The New Testament was written after the: The First Jewish-Roman War (66–73 CE): Event: After the Roman army, led by Titus, destroyed the Second Temple in 70 CE, many Jews were taken as slaves.
But for now we can leave this for later.

Nobody will invade you if you surrender to be a subject under the rule of such a commander.
Today if Americans come to say they want to make Nigeria one of their states it's not about slavery but ruling Nigeria from America.

That's what happened back then!

gohf:
hmmm I believe God children are everywhere and they hear His word and follow him

Jesus didn't believe that Instead he worked by sending his disciples to go and meet people at home {Matthew 10:11-13} and do what is called follow up, he commanded them to have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} that's why they connect themselves as one family everywhere they may be {John 17:22} so that when there is trouble in any place their beloved fellow believers comes to mind not just assuming you have fellow believers everywhere yet there is no assigned duty binding you with any believer close to you!