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IslamVIRGINS:
According to your craziness, is that the definition of Christmas?
Angel and heaven that celebrated the birth of Christ are also pagans right?
Your stupidity is legendary, more grease to your madness!

How is announcement a celebration?

AntiisIam:
Boya kó point where I support him from my previous posts. Is your occultist JW's founder a true prophet or man of God or fake?

My own people don't celebrate the birth of your god because we don't know your god but i'm asking you now:

Is Kumuyi a man of your god?

MightySparrow:
Hahaha.
Faith is glaring

See hypocrisy!
Oya nah mention just one religion and prove it how the religion possessed this qualities.

MiddleDimension:
Heaven itself celebrated christmas the very moment he was born. That's still the first century. Bible says the angels appeared in heaven singing glory to God in the highest, and peace to men of good will.

Let's just say you're the funniest atheist i have ever heard of because firstly you don't believe in heaven nor God yet you're here arguing about what happened in heaven, secondly you are talking about angels singing all these you don't believe but the funniest part is you want to claim it's heavenly angels that's celebrate birthday when they only announced Jesus' birth.

Did angels celebrated his birthday later?
NO!
Are we following what angels did or what Jesus commanded his disciples to keep on doing?

You want to turn the whole thing into useless argument claiming i am not a Christian OK you don't claim to be a Christian but atheist i claim i'm a Christian telling you what Christians were commanded to do and did in the Bible.

Guy you don't know anything about Christianity it's what faithless humans are doing in the name of Jesus you know!

Sand2022:
Let it slide.

Of course it must slide because neither first century Jewish disciples of Christ MENTIONED a date regarding the end of badness nor their modern day counterpart Jehovah's Witnesses all had wrong expectations regarding the times and seasons! 1Corinthians 13:9

MiddleDimension:
You are not a christian but a Jehovah's witness!

Why are you jumping around nah?

I said you know nothing about Christianity but you claim Christians value the birth of Jesus.
OK how did first century Christians prove that they value the birth of Jesus?
You started telling stories about his birth OK did his disciples (first Christians) celebrate his birth?
You want to change the subject again.

Are you now convinced that you know nothing about Christianity?

Faith in Christ isn't Atheism where you claim God doesn't exist yet you want to talk about heaven!

Even common readers of God's word know that there is no room for Christmas!

MightySparrow:
Are you talking about spirituality when your organization has banished the Holy Spirit from your organization?

This are the qualities found in the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit:
LOVE
JOY
PEACE
PATIENCE
KINDNESS
GOODNESS
MILDNESS
FAITH
SELF-CONTROL

Mention one quality of God's Holy Spirit that's missing among Jehovah's Witnesses!

MiddleDimension:
The fulfilment of God's promise that even when they are unfaithful, he is always faithful. And when he saif he was going to send then a saviour, he actually meant it.
The gospel of Luke says:
''For today there was born to you in David’s city+ a savior,+ who is Christ the Lord.+'' Luke 2 vs 11 NWT.
Bible also said for this reason, the son of God was born, so that he might destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3 vs 8

Did anyone celebrated his birthday in the first century?

Are you saying what you think is RIGHT that his first century disciples FAILED to do for him?

MightySparrow:
Hahahaha.
I am in a constant light 🕯️

It's because you are empty spiritually speaking!

MiddleDimension:
Says a person for whom the birth of jesus means nothing!

The birth of Jesus means what to his disciples and friends in the first century?

I said you know nothing about Christianity you are talking about the birth of Jesus.

Ọmọ God made sure that there were four men who penned down the history of Jesus only two narrated how he was born and afterwards it's only his teachings they all focused on.
After the four gospels comes the Act of Apostles which means God wants us to know what first century disciples of Christ did for Jesus of Nazareth.
Did they ever remember the celebration of his birth?
The answer is NO!
WHY?
Because birthday celebration was never part of the custom of ancient servants of God neither did Christ himself celebrate his birth nor does he ever mention it.
So if some people now think of celebrating what neither ancient servants of God nor Jesus and his first century Jewish disciples practiced are we to join in such man-made traditions? Matthew 15:7-9

Ọmọ you know nothing about Christianity!

MiddleDimension:
To be qualified to engage in any discussion or activity, one only need to havr thr minimum competence for it. As it turns out, I know christianity and many other religions.
Your bible says:
The Priests have erred in vision, the prophets, in judgement; by means of other tongues shall I speak to these people''. Isaiah 28 vs 7 - 13

The highlighted is a big lie because it's not just reading a biology textbook that makes you knowledgeable in biology but studying biology with a competent teacher who is using biology productively!

So you know nothing about Christianity you only read our book.

MiddleDimension:
I am an atheist.

https://www.nairaland.com/4923984/daddy-freeze-lied-heaven-celebrared#133438762

If not delusion do atheists believe in heaven?

Janosky:
1Corinthians 13:9 proven You go WAIL tire .

Due to his captured heart it's Jehovah's Witnesses who are always concerned about the coming of God's Kingdom that are false prophets but all these ones seeking the attention of politicians aren't false prophets!

MiddleDimension:
I have said it here several times.
But why are you surprised?

Surprised because as an atheist you have no business delving into arguments involving two religionists yet you're always taking sides when you don't even believe in the existence of God!

Amumaigwe:
You sound like a Muslim fanatic. Fanaticism is the last stage before terrorism

You don't understand what we're discussing!

LeopardX:
Most masqueraders so called practice their religion in secret. Everything they do is in secret. They even swear oaths too. Sharing akara in the open will seem suspicious. Therefore most people are inclined not to take it. Unlike Christianity which is largely an open religion where people are free to enter and exit as they wish. So if Christians are celebrating, many people are inclined to celebrate with them. There are exceptions, but this is how it is most of the time.

All religions have things they do in secret even Jesus doesn't disclose everything to everyone he reserved many things for his few closest confidants!

WesKiz:
So your claim now is you must like Christian
Why will you like them ? u can do business with them eat their food that is not attached to any celebration u can give them money if they need give them food if they need but it doesn’t mean you like them or you must like them. Defend your true religion there is no need hide nothing.

It's just a simple question jọọ!

Jerryhare:
Did I lied? Russell is a big calamity that befell you

You don't know anything!

MightySparrow:
There is nothing like humility with an organization that is inconsistent with doctrines. Your organization subtly discards doctrines and pretend as people don't know. Thanks to God written materials don't lie.
I would have loved your brother to take the points one by one and refute them. There is nothing in his response that was not pointed out.

So why are you always calling me to come and defend your beliefs nah?

AntiisIam:
Sebi you have their contacts and you know where to get them? Go and ask them including your occultist JW's founder if they are false prophets or not

Sebi you're always in support of Kumuyi saying he's a man of your God?
How come a man of your God is condemning the Birthday celebration for your God nah?

MiddleDimension:
I am an atheist.

Wow! So you're an atheist!

jaephoenix:
He is going to deflect and give one useless answer now. That's Max for you. We are tired of him

Atheists and their fear for truth!

doffman:
Exactly . You see Jesus as a god or son of God .

But , Muslim see Jesus as a prophet . No problem , let everybody stay in his lane .

Many Christians also do not eat Sallah food . If a Muslim said he will not eat your festival food , no need to complain . E go clear for everybody face .

Exactly what i'm saying!

AntiisIam:
Heaven that celebrated Christ's birth with Angel that celebrated his birth didn't know Jesus Christ was born right? Or kumuyi and the rest know more than Angel that celebrated his birth abi

So Kumuyi and Olukoya are false prophets shey?

Sand2022:
You can't claim to be the only channel and run when the only channel sends a false message and makes false predictions. If you're God's channel, then that channel is obviously inferior as the channel doesn't know the future. Considering the amount of errors, the God label is an insult to the Almighty God.
God of the bible sees the future accurately without flip flopping. So the church deserve to be called out as false prophets.

For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially" 1Corinthians 13:9

So this means all Jewish religious groups in the first century also have God's approval since they all prophesied PARTIALLY right?

Ọmọ the reason why first century disciples of Jesus are the only true religion is not because of their prophecies buy they were fulfilling what God promised for that time period!

So Jehovah's Witnesses fulfilling what God promised in our time makes them the only channel God is using no prophesying can make any religion true or false that's what Paul is saying here!

Sand2022:
I will agree that they may have expected the kingdom while Jesus was on earth. The expectation in Jerusalem at the time was already high, so it's understandable. But can that count as a fixed date? I mean, which date will that be?

Of course each person will be nursing that secretly in their hearts and whoever listens to them will perceive it through discussions.

So just as they never mentioned a specific date their modern day counterpart also never mentioned a specific date but are expecting the Kingdom after seeing the fulfillment of some prophecies!

AntiChristian:
My we doesn't include her but the guy she responded to. Those who have the same creed with me in this regards are included.

That means disunity in Islam because many will support this woman in fact i know some imams who will support her for neighbourly friendship sake!

doffman:
1. Say, “O disbelievers.

2. I do not worship what you worship.

3. Nor do you worship what I worship.

4. Nor do I serve what you serve.

5. Nor do you serve what I serve.

6. You have your way, and I have my way.”
Quran 109 verse 1 to 6

Perfect example of a true believer!

You can only view others as UNBELIEVERS since there is disagreement in how to go about sacred service but it shouldn't lead to dispute:

You have your way and i have my way

AntiChristian:
Whether she's a Muslim or not depends on her beliefs! If she believes Jesus is the son of God or God himself then that's disbelief.

She never said anything about whether Jesus is anything what she accepted is gifts from the celebrants of Christmas but you said "WE" that's why i told you not to generalize it because each Muslim has his or her own mind on that.
She accepted without attaching any meaning to it so she's a dedicated Muslim too!

AntiChristian:
So in JW.org miracles no dey at all?

Nothing like stage managed miracles.

Miracles happens to people from all religions but when talking about people given the privilege to perform miracles it's only Israelites God promised!

Ablaf:
WISDOM DIGEST FOR TODAY 25/12/2024.

THE GOOD TIDINGS OF CHRISTMAS FOR YOU: "A Saviour is Born"

It's like Kumuyi and Olukoya don't believe that Jesus was born o!