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NNTR:
Jesus answered the religious leader man who addressed Jesus as just a good teacher. So Jesus replied back:
'Do you understand what you've just said? Hmm? Why you call me good, only God is good' meaning: 'I AM not a simple teacher, I AM God.'

You've started imputing your own idea o.

Just aay exactly what Jesus said!

healthkknatural:
This One Parading Himself as Jehovah Witness up and Down , Jumping from one thread to Another , Constituting Nuisance and Misinforming People again ..

What happened to your thread where you were attacking me for telling you the truth?

Have you found a Christlike person to respond to your question?

MaxInDHouse:
From 4th of November to December 22nd and no Christlike people came to this thread rather it's dead.

https://www.nairaland.com/8254446/children-god-christians-believers-extend/1#133313040

healthkknatural:
Jagaban Has nothing to Offer.

OK!

silverkings:
Psalms 15:1-5 NKJV
[1] Lord, who may abide in Your tabernacle? Who may dwell in Your holy hill? [2] He who walks uprightly, And works righteousness, And speaks the truth in his heart; [3] He who does not backbite with his tongue, Nor does evil to his neighbor, Nor does he take up a reproach against his friend; [4] In whose eyes a vile person is despised, But he honors those who fear the Lord; He who swears to his own hurt and does not change; [5] He who does not put out his money at usury, Nor does he take a bribe against the innocent. He who does these things shall never be moved.
https://bible.com/bible/114/psa.15.1-5.NKJV

All the above will be work out perfectly when you speak about God's Kingdom with your neighbour.

Speak with your neighbour about God's Kingdom and it's righteousness {Malachi 3:16} that's why Jesus said we must forgive by doing this we will always think good of someone we always discuss God's Kingdom truth with! Matthew 28:19-20

gohf:
why should i when you didnt even answer me

Then keep your question to yourself.

illicit:
Jobs story was fiction
Never happened...
Quote me wrong

Heard you but i disagree.

gohf:
Eph.4.11 - He is the one who gave these gifts to the church: the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, and the pastors and teachers.
Eph.4.12 - Their responsibility is to equip God's people to do his work and build up the church, the body of Christ,
Eph.4.13 - until we come to such unity in our faith and knowledge of God's Son that we will be mature and full grown in the Lord, measuring up to the full stature of Christ.

Now ask budaatum if she agree with what you just quoted that she supposed to be in the gathering of those who are learning from men serving as Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers or she's just talking about learning whatever and anywhere she wants!

gohf:
how is he wrong that the church is where we learn, must he be wrong for you to be right?

Learn what?

budaatum:
Church may be where 'we' learn. Out in the world amongst the neighbours where Christ sent his disciples is where being the salt of the earth that is learnt is practised.

Peace.

The highlighted is WRONG!

CHURCH is the assembly of Christians who are encouraging one another to keep doing the preaching and teaching work without let up!

The word "ANTICHRIST" means "APOSTATE CHRISTIANS" not someone who is arguing against CHRISTIANITY in fact real AntiChrists do preach and perform signs in Jesus name but the irony of the matter is that the message of the AntiChrist will never yield positivity {Matthew 7:15-20} instead of making people to love and care for their fellow believers just as Christ commanded {John 13:34-35} AntiChrist's preaching and teaching will promote selfishness and greed leading to haughtiness and hatred among worshipers making them to fight and kill one another! Revelations 6:3-4

Daejumong:
God did not allow Satan to Kill the children of Job to test his loyalty! This was the idea of the author who wrote the book and not God! The councils that edited the Bible between the 1st and 10th Century should have removed this part just as they did many others!

Psalm 37:25:
“I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.”

Proverbs 10:27:
“The fear of the Lord adds length to life, but the years of the wicked are cut short.”

God is too faithful to fail! He will never entertain any foul play from Satan regarding His children. He will never make a bet with Satan over His children!

Job's 10 children were all killed just as Cain killed Abel but in God's Kingdom Job will have twenty children because both the ones that died before Job and those who later died after him will be brought back to life! Job 14:13-15

It was a real life event that happened!

Jesus taught his disciples something really helpful:

"But you, do not you be called Rabbi, for one is your Teacher, and all of you are brothers. Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One. Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ" Matthew 23:8-10

Why did you mention the names of these men with regards to the question you asked about Christmas?

Let's go back to your post:

Daejumong:
Is celebrating Christmas a Sin for a Christian ?

Pastor Kumuyi of Deeper life and Pastor Olukoya of MFM think it’s a Sin

Pastor Adeboye of RCCG and Bishop Oyedepo of Winners think it is Not a Sin

Their religious titles has captured your mind so you must reckon with whatever they say but the problem now is they are not saying the same thing regarding Christmas instead they are CONTRADICTING themselves. 1Corinthians 14:33

But let's replace their popular religious tithe with the common title used to address everyone:

Mr Kumuyi, Mr Olukoya, Mr Adeboye, Mr Oyedepo.

Do you think their opinion will count again?

Well the truth regarding Christmas is found in the Bible where God COMMANDED His people not to copy any custom from idol worshipers {Deuteronomy 12:30} this is the reason why you can't find a single servant of God who marked his or her birthday in the Bible.

The two examples of birthday celebrations are from pagans {Genesis 40:20; Matthew 14:6} God's word taught us that instead of remembering the day we were born it's better to remember the day a person dies because that is when we can be certain that the person succeeded in doing God's will throughout his life {Ecclesiastes 7:1-2} in harmony with this instruction Jesus of Nazareth was born but God made sure that his date of birth was never recorded in the Bible rather it was the date Jesus died that was recorded because it's that day Jesus declared "it has been accomplished" John 19:30

That's why none of his disciples celebrated the day he was born but the day he died day have continued to make a memorable day as he himself commanded:

Also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: “This means my body, which is to be given in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” Luke 22:19

That's what his disciples took to heart {1Corinthians 11:23-25} therefore if anyone say "it's good to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ" such a person has tried for sure but according to Jesus we must stick to whatever he taught us not what people think is good for Jesus! Matthew 15:7-9

Thanks, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

GOD'S WILL!

God's will is found in the first chapter of the first Bible book Genesis:


God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.” ‭Genesis 1:28

Humans are to spread throughout the earth as God's replicates making the earth beautiful with the wisdom God gave us but sin changed us into something else that's why we lost the privilege {Romans 3:23} so we need to go back to what God purposed for us in the beginning and make this planet a haven.


We can't do that on our own without a perfect being coming to teach us how to achieve it so God promised in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 & Micah 4:1-3 that His will for mankind is to use what is found written in His word to educate ourselves globally and the expected result is to settle all our disparities peacefully among ourselves, divert all our resources into the production of food and information materials, stop the making, buying, selling and using of weapons against our fellow humans and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again!

This is the global educational program Jesus of Nazareth established through his ministry and nobody can enter God's Kingdom without participating in this program.
Jesus said @ John 3:16


God love the world so much that He gave his only begotten son so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.

Believing in Jesus means trusting his teachings that it's only by PRACTICING what he taught us we will make this planet a haven therefore whoever rejects Jesus' instructions can never see God's Kingdom! John 3:17-18

WHY?

Because by preaching and teaching in all our neighbourhood we will become friends with all those we discuss the Kingdom message while angels are penning down our names as people doing the will of God.

The first Bible book has revealed what God had in mind when He created us so the last book of the Old Testament revealed a sacred secret:



Then those who feared the Lord talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the Lord and honored his name. ‭Malachi 3:16 NIV‬

In this Bible verse we realized that God instructed that the names of all those discussing about doing God's will with one another are written for their remembrance!

Now what will happen to those who feels unconcerned?

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The wicked go down to the realm of the dead, all the nations that forget God. Psalms 9:17 NIV‬

The last Bible book says:

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Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire. Revelation 20:15 NIV‬

In summary God's will is sacrificing our time to speak with our neighbour one on one about God's purpose for mankind which Jesus commissioned {Matthew 28:19-20} all those doing so will have their names written in the book of life! Malachi 3:16; Revelations 20:15

Must we attend church services to do this?

YES!

Because it's only when we meet together with fellow believers that we will continue encouraging ourselves to keep doing this work: God's will! Hebrews 10:24-25


God bless you and may you have PEACE!

NNTR:
You cant even admit and say that Jesus is GOOD.

You don't know the implication of what you're doing, Jesus said something and you're here kicking against it simply because you want to stick to your mumbo jumbo Trinity doctrine.

As sons of the most high God all true believers are GOOD because we are imitating our father in heaven {Ephesians 5:1} the reason why Jesus didn't want the credit is written in God's word that i first QUOTED in my response:

‭John 5:30 NIV‬
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.


From the above statement we learned that all servants of God in ancient times that we can think of as GOOD people were taught to be by God in whose Spirit GOODNESS is one of the QUALITIES. Galatians 5:22-23


That's why your logic failed woefully as Jesus the one you're trying to wrap up what doesn't belong to him rejected it immediately and gave the credit to his father and God!

With this i'm saying Adios!

MaxInDHouse:
The post wasn't for you but since you decide to respond i will show you what the Bible say on that.

The KJV always render the divine name with four Hebrew alphabets YHWH translated YAHWEH or JEHOVAH as LORD so when David said The LORD is my Shepherd {Psalms 23:1} the NWT rendered it this way:

"JEHOVAH is my Shepherd"

WHY?

Because there are TWO persons the KJV used the title lord for, KJV used upper case LORD for JEHOVAH and lower case Lord for Jesus that's why KJV said @ Psalms 110:1

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.


But the NWT rendered the same verse as:

JEHOVAH declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”

Peter confirmed David saw someone who is greater than Jesus:

For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Act 2:34-36

Please answer this question, who is the LORD that David was talking about @ Psalms 23:1?

achorladey:
Liar and manipulator japa from 1 Peter 2:3. The response go open your cans of lies and manipulations of the scripture

Keep seeking my attention up and down the forum at least the OP now knows what to expect next time he hears that name MAXIMUS!

achorladey:
Jesus perfectly reflected the personality of his father.

That's exactly why he said the GOODNESS that politicians perceived in him doesn't belong to him but to his father the One Jesus is reflecting His GOOD QUALITIES.

So Jesus is right if the shape of a loaf of bread looks perfect then it's the pan used to bake it that's perfect not the loaf, Jesus gave Jehovah all the glory because He taught Jesus everything!

Mr OP, next time be wise because Maximus learned from Jesus who also learned from our father and God JEHOVAH! John 20:17

So when it comes to response Jesus has taught us to be wiser than all critics of God's word! Proverbs 26:5

achorladey:
To you MaxInDHouse, Is Jesus good? just like the religious leader thought. That's what the OP is asking.
From your own perspective and knowledge about Jesus as taught by your Governing body or your religious leaders. Is Jesus Good?

I will say nothing out of my own initiative i believe my Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus!

Jesus said: Nobody is good except one, God. Luke 18:19

NNTR:
Jesus never dismissed the religious leader's thought of Him being Good,

This is a LIE!



Jesus said:

Nobody is good except one, God. Luke 18:19

Jesus said only one person is GOOD!

NNTR:
Psalm 23:1
The LORD is my Shepherd [to feed, to guide and to shield me],
I shall not want.

John 10:14
I AM the Good Shepherd,
and I know [without any doubt those who are] My own
and My own know Me [and have a deep, personal relationship with Me]

The psalmist is referring to YHWH aka Yahweh pka Jehovah (i.e. I AM) in Psalms 34:8, even in Psalm 23:1 and in a technically roundabout way, is referring to Yahshua aka Jesus too

Recognise that Yahshua aka Jesus, is God Incarnate, meaning God embodied in human flesh body

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

The post wasn't for you but since you decide to respond i will show you what the Bible say on that.

The KJV always render the divine name with four Hebrew alphabets YHWH translated YAHWEH or JEHOVAH as LORD so when David said The LORD is my Shepherd {Psalms 23:1} the NWT rendered it this way:

"JEHOVAH is my Shepherd"

WHY?

Because there are TWO persons the KJV used the title lord for, KJV used upper case LORD for JEHOVAH and lower case Lord for Jesus that's why KJV said @ Psalms 110:1

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.


But the NWT rendered the same verse as:

JEHOVAH declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”

Peter confirmed David saw someone who is greater than Jesus:

For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Until I make thy foes thy footstool. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Act 2:34-36

Please answer this question, who is the LORD that David was talking about @ Psalms 23:1?

NNTR:
God, of course
Now here another question for you to dodge:
Is Jesus GOOD?
_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

What did Jesus say about that?

"Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God. Mark 10:18

Only GOD is GOOD according to Jesus.

Do you agree with Jesus?

achorladey:
You can come from Myanmar or Vietnam, it won't change the taste and see that the Lord is good to taste and see the Lord is bad.

Taste and see that Jehovah is good; Happy is the man who takes refuge in him. Psalms 34:8 NWT

O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him. Psalms 34:8 KJV

Who is the LORD the Psalmist was referring to JEHOVAH or JESUS?

NNTR:
You can tap dance out of the questions as much and as long as you like
Its baffling, why you bring in trinitarians when God is bigger than and beyond trinity, and your other distractions, when the questions were asked, simply to establish out who in the bible, good is attributed to
_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Who did Jesus attributed GOOD to?

NNTR:
I feel your cognitive dissonance beloved

Let me document the responses:
Jesus is Good = 0
Jesus is not Good = 1
Dodge the question = 1

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Go and meet your fellow trinitarians to settle with them on whatever you guys wish to believe about Jesus or you stick to what the scriptures say:

Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

Jesus' father is my father and Jesus' God is my God!

NNTR:
Stick to answering the four question please
Open a separate thread to host the questions you're trying to introduce here and I promise to reply you on there

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

I'm not interested in your nonsense, if you ask me and i also ask you i'm only responding to show i care not that i'm obligated in any way to answer you so when you are ready answer the question i asked you! Matthew 21:23-27

achorladey:
It is now you know the difference between being active Jehovah's Witness and when one is no longer an active Jehovah's Witness

Calling people mad, insane, asiere, asinwin is proven sign of maturity when discussing with others

When you see vulgar language, you can't differentiate them.

Good so you don't care about what Jesus said so leave it like that!

sonmvayina:
Must have been a typo...an over sight.
Ezra wrote the Torah...not the entire Tanakh.
I am not dumb like you...

Ezra wrote the five books of Moses and he's the only priest you know yet where he got his priesthood you don't know.

Guy i will never ever engage you again because it's now clear that you are a liar.

Farewell!

sonmvayina:
I am not an Israelite?
And I know propaganda when I see it...
So don't ...

So you're not an Israelite but you know all their stories including the fact that Ezra was a priest but the first priest in Israel you don't know shey?

Well the first priest in Israel was Aaron the brother of Moses so stop deceiving yourself Moses was as real person not your so called allegory!

achorladey:
Dancing round the question with questions

I'm a Nigerian, without prior notice or under stress we (Nigerians) answer question with question!

achorladey:
When I tell your brains are filled with lies and manipulations you will be looking for who to ban using vulgar words that is none existent. Stop peddling madness and insanities on nairaland, you say NO

Can't you just discuss maturely without using the highlighted?

Is it because you're no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses that makes you feel cool using such vulgar languages?

I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. John 5:30


According to Jesus himself is he good or taught to do what is good?
So between Jesus and his TEACHER who did Jesus say is truly GOOD?