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Explore2xmore:
Luke 20:34–36 addreses the resurrection and the fact that resurrected people won’t marry or die. It does not mention the 144,000, a heavenly ruling class, or two separate eternal destinations. It answers a question about marriage, not a complete explanation of eternal arrangement.

Stop mentioning that useless book ọmọ it's worthless in this case!🙂

Here is what Jesus said @ Luke 20:34-36

“The children of this system of things marry and are given in marriage, (intelligent creatures in flesh on planet earth do get married) but those who have been counted worthy of gaining that system of things( those who will become corulers with Christ in heaven ) and the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage. In fact, neither can they die anymore, for they are like the angels, and they are God’s children by being children of the resurrection( will be turned into spirit creatures so they won't marry because they don't have fleshy bodies anymore)." Luke 20:34-36

Scriptures needs to be interpreted so you can't expect everything to be written explicitly as you are demanding i know you are now ashamed of that your book because it can't answer any question at all!🙂

Shame is the end of all false religions:

“Look! My servants will eat, but you will go hungry. Look! My servants will drink, but you will go thirsty. Look! My servants will rejoice, but you will suffer shame. Look! My servants will shout joyfully because of the good condition of the heart, But you will cry out because of the pain of heart And you will wail because of a broken spirit." Isaiah 65:13-14

False prophets don't know God's word so they can't teach what will bring peace to the minds of their followers but confusion {Matthew 7:15-20} how can a false prophet understand that God created the first human couple to live as one man one wife when confusion has led many into taking more than one wife or husband?🙂

Explore2xmore:
If Genesis 1:26, Psalms 115:16, and Ecclesiastes 1:4 permanently restrict all humans to earth, then the claim that 144,000 humans go to heaven becomes difficult to reconcile.

Those going to heaven aren't going there as humans the Bible made it clear that they will be transformed into angels! Luke 20:34-36
Ọmọ no dey compare God's word with that your Quran o!🤣

Yorimichi:
If God is omniscient.

This is what presumption often leads to because the Bible God never claim to be Omniscient in fact He made it clear to all readers of His books that there are lots of things that shocks Him.

Perhaps you've forgotten the topic of this thread:

Does God Permit Polygamy In The New Testament?

I don't know what your Religion has to do with New Testament o. 😂

So stick to your own religion because in Christianity all the nations of the earth are put into consideration {Matthew 28:19-20} so that if any individual wants to worship our God we will tell him God's standard in the beginning which is One Adam and One Eve before men started taking more than one wife and women started taking more than one husband! 😂

Expanse2020:
But not in Islam
So don't mixed with your religion

Expanse2020:
No he spent on your generation

Wow!
Typical of Muslims!🤣
So learn now because many women do raise their own husbands from grass to grace and do you think that is enough reason for such a woman to go into polyandry?
If Muhammad was raised by Khadijat who has all the money to marry twenty men believe she's OK with one man what gives a man the impetus to marry more than one simply because he has money?😂

Yorimichi:
If the issue is simply who has the right to set standards, then why does forgiveness require generations of suffering, death, and punishment?

Because billions are still in doubt as to who has the right to set standards it's a relatively few like one out of thousands is on God's side. That's why God allows for thousands of years to pass if any human government can bring lasting peace and security!

yommyuk:
Loving others makes the world a better place to live in.

It's in two ways it's either like ourselves or like the way Jesus loves!

yommyuk:
In essence, Genuine faith (Belief) must be demonstrated through actionable deeds

Exactly!🙂

Why not answer the question nah?🙂

Did Muhammad spend the money he earn, sweat and his wealth on Khadijat?🤔

Expanse2020:
What did you work alone for 🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣
If a cash you only work for it and spend it with those who didn't work and sweat with you ..so what are you saying...
What should the mother of the person do if you mean the woman work for it🤔🤣🤣🤣
You are a joker ..which woman work for you
Or you spend your earn, sweat,nwealth on them.
Abeg close this chapter
Na unreasonable conversation you de bring

Try to be wise nah!😟

If you and someone else found a huge some of cash surely you have no option than to share it together but can you equally share what you worked alone for with someone else?🙂

Expanse2020:
Ehen...
So you have never see two or three women and they leave happy with a man..
They share the same man and they are fine with it ..
Several marriage of men married two women on the same day have been posted on this platform

I have told you countless times that it's not in God's plan for humans to live in heaven the only destination for humans is planet earth though today humans have turned this planet into something else {Revelation 11:18} God promised to remove those causing the problem {Psalms 37:7-11; Proverbs 2:20-22} so Paradise will be restored on planet earth not heaven as your prophet told you.
The only reason why some are going to heaven is to rule with Christ as he said they will be taken to where he lives before coming to the earth. John 14:1-3

So there is no other verse that support this because only Jesus promised his future corulers of heavenly life and they are limited in number. Revelation 14:1

If you are thinking of going to heaven as a blessing its time to erase such in your mind God never promised anyone heaven that is the simple truth!🙂

Yorimichi:
​If human history was fractured over a single act of disobedience, why didn’t God just say, "I forgive you" and move on?

That single act of disobedience leads to a question that needs to be answered.

Who has the right to set standards for mankind: God or humans?

As simple as this question may sound majority of humans finds it really hard to answer!

Explore2xmore:
The relevant verses have been cited: 2:30, 2:35, 2:38, 3:59, 15:26, 21:105, and 54:54–55. The answers are there.

Just quote one out that EXPLICITLY says "EARTH" because that is exactly what is confusing all Muslims till today!🤣

None of your leaders can answer where the righteous will live after God has destroy all evildoers because that word "PARADISE" your prophet doesn't know its real meaning!😂

Explore2xmore:
The righteous will be in gardens and rivers, near a Sovereign, Perfect in Ability. It does not specifically say this is the same heaven from which Adam was sent down.

The above statement is what i'm talking about because all Muslims are confused regarding where Adam was created to stay before he sinned.

So it's either you admit that your Quran couldn't give a definitive answer or you humble yourself and learn.

I have heard that statement thousands of times from Muslims so quoting your Quran without stating where Adam was created explicitly shows you people have nothing to learn in that your book.

This is what the Bible says about Adam:

“Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every creeping animal that is moving on the earth." Genesis 1:26

Can you see how clear the Bible answered the question?

That is God's word not some copy and paste book from an impostor who does not know where Paradise was in the beginning.

The main reason i keep tormenting you is because your Quran can't answer where Paradise will be whether heaven or earth but the Bible made it clear that it was the perfect state where God put Adam that all righteous people will inherit again {Psalms 37:9-11, 29} so only Christ corulers will be taken to heaven not all righteous people! John 14:1-3🙂

Explore2xmore:
The Quran has answered these points directly, with references already provided. A person familiar with Islamic theology would know the Quran doesn’t say Adam was taken from earth to heaven and then returned. It says he was placed in a Garden and later told to descend. Claiming that the Garden must have been in heaven is an assumption, not a statement from the text itself. Even classical scholars debated this issue.
Likewise, saying the Quran copied the Bible oversimplifies the matter. Both scriptures exist within a shared Abrahamic tradition, but that’s not the same as one being a copy of the other.
The relevant verses have been cited: 2:30, 2:35, 2:38, 3:59, 15:26, 21:105, and 54:54–55. The answers are there. Rejecting them without addressing them isn’t a counterargument. And the standard should be consistent: the Bible also has not produced a clear verse proving two permanent groups of saved believers with different eternal outcomes. That question remains unanswered. When you can answer we will see clearly.
Advice you get off your haughtiness and imagination. This is an online platform with higher chances of me living longer on earth than you besides age not being a measure of knowledge.

God's law to the Israelites is:

Love your neighbor as yourself.


“Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord." ‭Leviticus 19:18 NIV‬

This law is only for Israelites who lived in the same country that's why the law specifically stated "among your people"

But when Jesus walked the earth Jews and Samaritans have been separated for centuries which make most Jews view Samaritans as no neighbor that is why they insisted that Jesus should tell them who are their neighbors for real! Luke 10:29

Jesus explained that whoever proves to be our neighbor is a neighbor just as the Samaritan in his illustration proved to be a neighbor to the robbed Jew! Luke 10:30-37

So the law God gave Israelites is to love their neighbors but Jesus gave another law to his own disciples:


“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” ‭John 13:34-35 NIV‬


Jesus called this a NEW COMMAND because there is a difference:

Love neighbor as yourself. Mark 12:31

Love fellow disciples as Christ loves. John 13:34-35


So the first applies to everyone around us because they are all our neighbors but the second applies only to our fellow believers in Christ!

What most people don't understand is that it's impossible to have faith without works so James is not telling you that there is faith without works rather he is telling you that there is no faith without works.

To understand James 2:26 well consider this statement and try to rephrase it.

A woman who has nothing to do with a man is dead to motherhood.

Is it possible for a woman to become a mother while having anything to do with a man?

Of course that's impossible so without faith you can't work that is what James is saying!

So what does it really mean to believe in God's only begotten Son?
Is it just by claiming you believe in Jesus?

Take for instance someone is shouting up and down the town:

"Only Mr V can save us in this country, he has all the potentials needed to serve as our president, he is a bonafide son of the soil and he's been working round the clock to make our country great again. In fact when he becomes our president he will solve all our problems"

Do you think such a person truly believes in Mr V?

Well by the words of his mouth you will think he does but then has he:

Registered to get a voter's card?

Associate with members of the party?

Participate in the party's programs?

Move to all territories to ensure voters?

Fearlessly come out and vote for Mr V?

If he doesn't do all of these do you think he truly believes in Mr V? Hebrews 11:6🙂

yommyuk:
Faith without works is what? Dead
Faith (Belief) in God via his only begotten son is not enough. Genuine faith (Belief) must be demonstrated through actionable deeds. By their fruits , you shall know them. What fruits.? Gal 5:22-23
Yes, with good deeds on its own, one cannot earn salvation. However, good deeds are still natural fruits and proof that ones faith is alive, transformative and genuine. This concept can be compared to the human body. Just as a body without a spirit is deemed a lifeless corpse, faith (belief) without corresponding deeds is also lifeless corpse.

mysticwarrior:
This passage raises a profound question: if a thousand years of peace, justice, and God's visible reign cannot convince humanity to remain faithful, what does that say about free will? The fact that multitudes still rush to rebellion the moment Satan is released suggests that the greatest threat to mankind is not the devil himself, but humanity's persistent willingness to follow deception despite having every reason to know better.

What God wanted to do is preserve the few ones who have the same mentality like Jesus. Jesus is the first creature God made and for untold years they've been together until God decided to create more life but it was in the process that God discovered that it's not all intelligent creatures that will be as graceful as His only begotten Son.
By the time God began creating other intelligent creatures Satan proved to be different, he just wasn't satisfied with being one of God's children rather he wanted more than that! Isaiah 14:12-14
Afterwards many intelligent creatures preferred being like Satan {Genesis 3:15} in fact ⅓ of the angels in heaven followed him to rebel against God! Revelation 12:4
God Himself later realized that most of the intelligent creatures are wicked! Genesis 6:5-6
That is why He declared that He will only allow those who are like his first spirit son to continue living! John 3:16

Expanse2020:
Ehen
Muslims women hate it ..
And some pastors have two wives
Others have several concubines
And they hate it.

Have you found any woman who will like to share her husband with another woman?
Not when everything is fine with them.
So in Paradise everything will be fine its the focus of faithful servants of God!🙂

Melchizzedek:
What are the evidences? I wanna know

Almost all the promises the Bible God made are fulfilled and we have all the records!🙂

The Israelites as a nation never wanted God's laws it's only God's prophets that has been consistent with it so Jesus also did just as all other Israelite prophets. God has promised that He will change that covenant since the time of Jeremiah {Jeremiah 31:31-33} but it will remain valid until God has fulfilled His own part of the covenant which is when the Messiah arrives and the nation failed to accept his teaching! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

So all the prophets until John the baptist stick to the old covenant that is why Jesus round it up with his sacrificial death and usher in a new covenant.

Do you notice that after his resurrection Jesus never went into that temple again?

He stopped practicing Judaism after his resurrection!🙂

Expanse2020:
Even if the Israelite abandon it which not all isrealite did that ... Jesus and his disciples didn't abandon as them know it's God law
Now you are telling after Jesus died they abandon God law and created their law and followed their own desired that what you tried to tell me...
So God law was abandon to formed the one they like baa
Today that
Was it not from the tribes of jew they started the evangelism...
Jesus didn't abandon the God law but the followers abandon it right is ok

Expanse2020:
What did use to measure the richest man wealth you are taking about óò🤔🤔
When God created did He created two men simultaneously
Rather he created a man so a woman.

As the time grew much woman are dominating and a man can marry more than a woman ás at it legal not illegal way.
If a man take a woman ás women plenty so the others should marry Jesus abi
Even the bible also testify that women will clip onto a man too at later end of s time

In Paradise God promised that life will return to how it was before Adam sinned, there won't be suffering or pain but where there is envy such is inevitable. No woman will be happy to share her man with another even your Muslim women hates it.

Expanse2020:
,,🤣🤣🤣🤣🤔🤔🤔
Marry two wives is bad example
I don't needs to argue you told me already is out of z God plan...
What is the point 🤣🤣🤣

Point is God gave the world's richest man only one wife so there is no reason why those who are less richer should think of taking more than one!🙂

Over to you jàre Mr Explore2xmore.

If your Quran says Adam was created from the dust of the earth and God put him in a garden on planet earth:

Explore2xmore:
Ibn Kathir explains in his tafsir of these verses that Adam’s creation began from dust/earth (turab), which Allah made into clay. The Prophet pbuh also said Allah created Adam from a handful which He took from all of the earth…

When was he taken to heaven so that God later send him out of heaven to planet earth again?🙂

Explore2xmore:
The righteous will be in gardens and rivers, near a Sovereign, Perfect in Ability. It does not specifically say this is the same heaven from which Adam was sent down.

How i wish to stay away from engaging Muslims in such discussions because i know your Quran has no answer to all these questions but when you decides to question God's word you people give room for intimidating your prophet, god, book and religion!😟

When God decides to silence critics of pure worship He has several ways of handling matters.

Mr Gabriel was banned for a decade at least to keep him in his place!🤣

Melchizzedek:
u need quit believing that Jesus is coming back. No one is coming to save us

If that is your own opinion no wahala we have all the evidences needed for any honest hearted individual!🙂

Melchizzedek:
Do you know why the Jews didn't believe in Jesus as the Messiah? Why did the disciples have the believe Jesus would come back in their lifetime but he never returned even after 2026 years?

Do you really want to know or you want to argue?🙂

What evidence gives us confidence that God’s purpose to bring an end to Satan and his wicked followers will be fulfilled?

In 1914, Jesus started the war against Satan the Devil and his demons and cast them down to the earth. Revelation 12:7-9

Although the battle itself took place in heaven, those on earth have certainly felt the effects of that battle. “Woe for the earth and for the sea,” the Bible says, “because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.” Revelation 12:12

Since 1914, Satan’s attention has been focused on the earth, and as a result, world conditions have gone from bad to worse. Indeed, “woe for the earth”! Soon, though, Jesus will “complete his conquest” and Satan and all his supporters will be removed. Revelation 6:2

Jesus will vindicate Jehovah’s name once and for all. Psalms 45:4-6

Everyone will know that Jehovah is the God of truth! Ezekiel 38:23.

After the destruction of Jerusalem there is no human given the privilege to perform miracles again!🙂

FxMasterz:
Neither should you!

Never again!
Farewell!🙂

FxMasterz:
This is the thousandth time you'll be saying this. And you'll be the first to come mention me. Very unstable personality. If I said you have answered a question, how does that mean you're being mentioned for engagement?

Now that it's clear you and i aren't on the same page please don't mention me or refer to me in your post.
Continue with your fellow worshipers as for me whatever i say is the belief of my entire global family and you can ask any of them unlike you who can't mention your own church yet claiming they exist!🤣