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Explore2xmore:
I see your means of passing information derives from subtle abuse.

Where is the abuse o?😟

This is the Bible not your Quran where you can't answer any question so what you should do is humbly learn not trying to imply what those who knows nothing about God told you.

Meanwhile you haven't answered one single question with that your Quran o!

Perhaps you have forgotten here is the question again:

Where did God create Adam and Eve in the beginning?

Please quote it from your Quran!🙂

No human is going to heaven because it was never created for humans in the first place. Jesus promised to take good care of his corulers since Jews in Jerusalem rejected him and his teachings but Jerusalem on mouth Zion where David ruled as king is the place God wanted to establish rulership of Christ. Isaiah 9:6-7

So Jesus promised the few selected humans to rule with him another place {John 14:1-3} they can't go there as humans because heaven wasn't meant for humans so they must be transformed into another being before they can be taken there {Luke 20:34-36} they can't marry no gender difference (male/female) bodies in heaven that is why Revelation 14:1 says all of them in their number 144,000 were seen on mount Zion (heavenly government house) with the lamb of God who is Christ!

God's original purpose for mankind has not changed billions of obedient mankind will live forever on planet earth! Psalms 37:29

If you want to learn opportunity to do so is there but when you choose to argue based on what the false religions in the world infused in your head that's your own cup of coffee!🙂

What is the essence of creating earth and putting humans there if heaven is where God intended for humans?

Muhammad knew nothing about God that is why he was mixing everything together.

New heavens and new earth are symbolic terms and it simply means new governments and new subjects who are willing to live with righteousness {2Peter 3:13} not another planet. God has promised never to destroy earth in fact He said this planet earth will last forever! Genesis 8:21-22; Psalms 104:5; Ecclesiastes 1:4

Explore2xmore:
Now it is very clear how different your views of God and eternity are. Your eternal paradise consists of a merged heaven and earth however new you claim these to be. The questions still remain about a specially two classes of saved people then where exactly is hell since you have located your own heaven in a new earth? Invariably then is why God comes down and not formerly mortal go up to meet the supreme?

All these things came as consequences of rebellion against God so all of us must experience one difficulty or another in this system of things {Matthew 6:34} the government that is under God's control is the only solution to all these problems that is why Jesus said we should continue to pray and work towards it. Matthew 6:10, 33

In the beginning God never intended to allow human government (human rule) but that is what Adam and Eve wanted they thought they will be independent completely and at the same time rule over the coming generation of humans as God's but they died off and even in their own eyes they witnessed how evil began and spread among their children to they extent that they grieved over the death of their own children.

So whether someone is a believer or not all these evil things awaits everyone in the system of things under human governments.

The secret is no human can remain 100% just when we have families and friends nepotism will always play it's own part in the way we handle matters hence injustice will prevail. That is why another person who is not from among humans is needed to set matters straight among us {John 8:23} and he really proved to be neutral even when it involves choosing between his own mother and fellow believers! Matthew 12:46-50

Today billions of people are still blinded by the propaganda Satan started in the garden of Eden thinking a human can rule them and make things better this is the real issue that is causing all these problems!😟

The only reason people marry more than one wife is wealth but God gave the wealthiest man only one wife.

So Jesus said if we want to correct the issue of marriage we need to go back to the BEGINNING of marriage! Matthew 19:4-5

FxMasterz:
Many organizations say the same things you said above.

Oya mention the name of your own church nah if you are not ashamed? Isaiah 65:13-14


Why hiding behind anonymous nah?😂

Ọmọ it's only the spirit of the true God that can make LOVE reign in the midst of millions of people from different nations throughout the world as if they are all from ONE tribe o. John 17:22

So continue lying to your own soul!🤣

FxMasterz:
Hope you know that there are many organizations that satisfy this criteria.

I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35

Whatever Jehovah's Witnesses call their Jesus is the truth if they succeeded in doing the above!

WHY?

God's word confirmed that the first and foremost attribute of God is LOVE {Galatians 5:22} because God is LOVE! 1John 4:8

No matter how much you hate God's organization you can't change what Jesus the only begotten Son of God said so continue wailing everyone knows that only Jehovah's Witnesses met this criteria that's why none of you can mention any other religion as yours because you've all failed!🤣

FxMasterz:
Jesus didn't promise eternity to any organization! The Bible says if you don't have the Spirit of Christ, you are none of His.

Continue joking with your soul.
Jesus promised us that we will know his real disciples by the love they have among themselves.
I present the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses known globally for the love they have among themselves you ignored only to keep claiming self righteousness!😂

ccjoe:
No wonder, now i see they're not from scriptures but some organisational believe...that settles it then.

Ok jàre.🤣

FxMasterz:
Now, the makers of the doctrines, are they your God or the Writer of the Bible? Who will judge you? The makers of the doctrines or the Inspirer of the Scriptures? Choose the destination of your soul wisely.

Go and join Nollywood industry joo!😂

I quoted Jesus for you and showed you the organization that's fulfilling what he said all that you ignored only to keep talking about a useless spirit that's of no practical use anywhere all because you call it the spirit of Christ.

Go and join Nollywood industry joo!😂

FxMasterz:
If you believe doctrines more than the Bible, you're the one lying to yourself. Hope you know? My dear, you won't have any excuse before the Lord Jesus on that day. I am sounding you this warning for your own good. I know you serve Lucifer who deceived you and pretends to be Jehovah. It seems you love Lucifer so much, otherwise you'll embrace the Bible's God instead of the god of your doctrines.

Predestination is HERESY!

The world according to the Bible is not planet earth o?🙂

Jesus said his disciples should pray for God's Kingdom to come {Matthew 6:10} so that as angels are doing the will of God in heaven the same could be done here on earth!

Oya answer the question using your our Quran nah!

Where will the resurrection be heaven or earth?😂

Explore2xmore:
You sure got more to contend with.
1. The dead and buried on earth body is resurrected for what purpose? Delivery of judgement and passage to where eternity would be spent?

2. Your book says this is the same earth yet it's asked what should it profit a man to gain the whole world and loose his soul?

3. You pray to a father who art in heaven where Jesus goes to prepare a place for you yet it will still be on earth?

4. Is the resurrection in classes that will be separated or what?

FxMasterz:
I know you serve Iucifer who deceived you and also pretends to be Jehovah. It seems you love your deceiver
so much, otherwise you'll embrace the Bible's God instead of the god of your doctrines.

Continue lying to yourself!🤣

FxMasterz:
All these lies you spewed up there do not change the fact that "if you have not the Spirit of Christ, you do not belong to Christ."

The spirit of our God differ from that of your God!🙂

Regarding prayer this is what Jesus the only begotten Son of God, the one who will judge all our deeds said:

“Also, when you pray, do not act like the hypocrites, for they like to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the main streets to be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your private room and, after shutting your door, pray to your Father who is in secret. Then your Father who looks on in secret will repay you." Matthew 6:5-6

So anyone praying to call the attention of others is NOT A BELIEVER IN CHRIST JESUS therefore it's wrong going to tell such a person to stop praying to his or her own god. What most people don't understand is that there are many demons today bearing that same name "Jesus" {2Corinthians 11:14} these demons are pretending to be Jesus and they are supporting what Jesus condemned {Ephesians 6:11} so those worshiping them are thinking they are worshiping Jesus whereas Jesus don't even know them! Matthew 7:21-23

There are two types of UNBELIEVERS:

1. Individuals who finds it hard to grasp the message we are preaching due to their background. If these ones are nice and kind hearted God will not judge them for their unbelieving until the 1,000 year reign of Christ. They will be resurrected to enjoy Paradise for at least 100 years as youths, they will not grow old but remain as youths for 100 years in Paradise. This opportunity will be given them because they have their own way of judging matters using their God's given conscience {Romans 2:14-15} but once they have witnessed what the Bible God promised believers for a hundred years yet feels they don't need to accept Jesus (through whom they were shown mercy) as Lord then they will die not as old people but even as they are 100+ years they will die as youths! Isaiah 65:20

2. Individuals who stubbornly rendered their God's given conscience dead. These ones at first don't understand the message of God's kingdom but they are seeing all the fulfillment of prophecies in the gathering of true Christians and they are eyewitnesses to all the good things God foretold about His worshipers during the end time. They intentionally chose to stand against faith in Christ and wanted God to approve their own way of handling matters something that is detestable in God's sight. Isaiah 64:6
Such individuals are judged instantly as they die and there is no resurrection for them {Psalms 9:17} but just like leaves that wither away they will be forgotten!

FxMasterz:
PRETENDING to preach the Kingdom of God while deceiving people and preacher falsehoods about the Kingdom.

What is the proof that any organization is preaching the kingdom of God?

Jesus answered:

They will make members in all nations of the earth. Act 1:8

They will change wolf-like humans into sheep-like people. John 10:1

The whole world will confirm that there is love among them. John 13:34-35

They will not support politics, racism or war affecting unbelievers. John 17:14-16

They will be noticed globally as number one group of exemplary people. Matthew 5:14-16

If Jehovah's Witnesses are PRETENDING yet fulfilling all of these what happened to your own church o?🤣

FxMasterz:
There are many big and happy families of peace loving worshippers around the world. What difference does that make?

Do they preach and teach about God's Kingdom in their neighborhood just as Jesus commanded his disciples? Matthew 28:19-20
Do they relate with all members of their faith like brothers and sisters does in one family? Mark 10:29-30
Do they stay away from politics, racism and military services just like the first century disciples of Christ? John 17:14-16
That is what Jesus said will make love exist in the midst of his true disciples! John 13:34-35

FxMasterz:
And how that make sure quality for eternity?

Jesus said that is the prerequisite for everlasting life:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life. Mark 10:29-30

Regarding the spirit you keep talking about you should have known by now that the spirit of our God differ from that of yours so stop deceiving yourself!🙂

Marksah5:
Deuteronomy 22:5: “The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man… for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD.”

In ancient times skirt is what their men use to wear o!
“Speak to the Israelites and tell them that they must make for themselves fringed edges on the skirts of their garments throughout their generations, and they are to put a blue string above the fringed edge of the skirt." Numbers 15:38

Johngew0:
Christian women should avoid makeup and ornamental jewelry, including earrings.

Faithful women in the Bible wear jewelries o!😟

Now Re·bekʹah had a brother whose name was Laʹban. So Laʹban ran to the man who was outside at the spring. When he saw the nose ring and the bracelets on the hands of his sister and heard the words of his sister Re·bekʹah, who was saying, “This is the way the man spoke to me,” he came to meet the man, who was still there standing by the camels at the spring. Genesis 24:29-30

Explore2xmore:
The Bible itself presents a broader picture, including resurrection and final judgment (Daniel 12:2; John 5:28–29)

Where will resurrection take place?

Heaven or Earth?🤣

FxMasterz:
Your organization has not made any positive impact on the world.

But the organization has formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers in all the nations. Isaiah 2:2-4 compare Act 1:8🙂

FxMasterz:
See, unity is not a yardstick for salvation. Witches, armed robbers, Bandits, gangs and all cults have unity.

You people are perishing because you have no knowledge! Hosea 6:4

Do witches, armed robbers, Bandits and gangs work together for peaceful coexistence of mankind as Jesus taught his disciples? Matthew 28:19-20

Do witches, armed robbers, Bandits and gangs preach from house to house and door to door as Jesus commanded his disciples? Matthew 10:11-13

Do witches, armed robbers, Bandits and gangs live peacefully in our society as Jesus commanded his disciples? Matthew 10:16

You said you're not a liar yet you frown at the most peaceful group Jesus formed even telling them to laid down their lives when bandits comes to attack them in opposition to what Jesus commanded them to flee! Matthew 10:23

Guy stop deceiving yourself i never accuse you of being a satanist all i'm saying is your God differ from our God and your Jesus differ from our own!🙂

There are no humans in heaven not to talk of animals!🙂

saintopus:
Animals are souls too, a book written by Harold Klemp.

Most religionists claiming Christians don't know o, to them only humans are souls!🙂

Explore2xmore:
None of the passages cited EXPLICITLY state that only 144,000 go to heaven while all other righteous believers are CONFINED to the earth.

See the problem with you?🤣
How can you be expecting all answers you want regarding a subject matter to be EXPLICITLY written in just one verse but when i throw similar questions to you your Quran can't even answer at all?

Ọmọ the earth is the place God created for humans as permanent abode {Psalms 115:16} that's why i keep asking you to make you use of your Quran and reason because God had no plan for humans in heaven!

So withdraw the word CONFINED earth is where God designed for humans not heaven!🙂

Na so TB Joshua tok nes tin be sey he enta six feet inside ground and wetin he tok cancel.
Why Kumuyi no tok this tin wen him wife wey born the children dey alife?🙂

Danieltiv8:
Jesus affirmed it: “These ought ye to have done” (Matthew 23:23; Luke 11:42). He rebuked hypocrisy, not tithing. He said don’t leave it undone while also keeping the weightier matters.

About tithing Paul said:

For since the priesthood is being changed, it becomes necessary to change the Law as well. Hebrews 7:12

Can you quote a verse where Christians paid or collect tithe from their brothers!🙂

I abandoned Islam when i discovered it can't answer any question about how we got here? what we are doing here? and where we will be in the future?🙂

Explore2xmore:
What the Quran says has been stated so no need to repeat the eternal end of al-jannah or jahannam.

Where is Jannah, heaven or earth?🤣

Two destinations:

1. For the few chosen to rule with Christ:

“Do not let your hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in God; exercise faith also in me. In the house of my Father (heaven) are many dwelling places. Otherwise, I would have told you, for I am going my way to prepare a place for you. Also, if I go my way and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will receive you home to myself, so that where I am you also may be"

2. For all other righteous servants of God who aren't part of the chosen:

The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it! Psalms 37:29

How many are the CHOSEN?

Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. Revelation 14:1

What about rest of the righteous?

And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare to those who dwell on the earth, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people. Revelation 14:6

One funny religionist whose book can't answer any question will be questioning the Bible! 🙂