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Emusan:
The only crying old lying soldier like his father the Devil here is the one who claimed a name is cursed and bastardised and his gods have given him a NEW NAME that is why he left the cursed and bastardised name for Christendom and whoever thinks he belongs to Christ under the cursed and bastardised old group name should think twice"[/b] but has swallowed his vomit and begin to claim he is also BEARING THE SAME CURSED AND BASTARDISED name and his organisation also shares the name with Christendom.

Of course the group name "CHRISTIANS" was given to a first century peaceful group whose founder COMMANDED all members to go about the task he gave them as WISE as serpent and HARMLESS as dove {Matthew 10:16} they are to LOVE their NEIGHBOURS as themselves {Mark 12:31} FELLOW BELIEVERS as the founder loves them {John 13:34-35} and to love also pray for those posing as ENEMIES! Luke 6:27-28

So if some religionists today are claiming they are members of this group but completely turning their backs on the instructions from the founder surely they have BASTARDIZED that name and brought a CURSE upon it! Matthew 15:7-9

Umadam:
please guide your utterances, don't say what you don't have know.

Abeg take am easy o!

jaephoenix:
So how did u know JWs are the most peaceful, loving blah blah people on earth? Did you do the research?

I have told you this several times but for the benefit of other followers i will repeat it again.

Peaceful doesn't mean restraining order not to fight rather it goes beyond that as members go to meet neighbours in their homes to teach them why this is the best thing to do! Matthew 28:19-20

FxMasterz:
Do you know what you're saying at all?

Insatiable means, continuous demand for something. You can't have food enough to the extent that you would never eat again. You'll continue to need food without an end in sight until the day you leave the earth. Continuous demands for those needs. That's what insatiability is all about.

Moreover, that's not the point we're discussing. I'm telling you the problem we go to the university to solve. Your attempt to derail the discussion is unsuccessful.

So, now, answer my question. Have you reached a state where you would no longer eat food, wear cloths or dwell in a house? As long as you continue to demand the solutions these problems, you'll always need someone who has learnt to solve these problems.

Guy it's better to admit you err because you also claim NEEDS are NUMEROUS showing that you're talking about lacking satisfaction whereas NEEDS are just three things:
FOOD
CLOTHING and
SHELTER!

Emusan:
Shameless lying liar Jws.

Now, after claiming that "the name Christian is curses and bastardised and whoever thinks he belongs to Christ under the cursed and bastardised name(Christian) should think twice" he is shamelessly claiming to be part of the same CURSED AND BASTARDISED name again.

Old lying soldier with no iota of shame

You can cry for all i care!
If there are thousands of religious groups with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines claiming Christians there must be fake as well as original.
So mention the name of your church otherwise you are just joking!

freshboi88:
But your Greek interlinear does not have the word 'other'

Greek interlinear is their Greek to English translation of the bible. Notice the word other is not there. It simply says all(things) - first picture. Words are circled in red.

But in your NWT bible, the word other suddenly appears, where did it come from mate. - second picture, insertions are circled in a yellow-like color

Do you agree that you have inserted the word 'other' 4 times in col 1 16-20 in your NWT bible ? Even when it is not there in the original Greek language according to your own translation...do you agree ?

That's what TRANSLATION entails!
If Jesus is the firstborn of creation then the rest are other children of creation so it's appropriate to include the word "OTHER" for readers to grasp what Paul is saying.
Note that languages don't go like 123.
For instance in Yorùbá language if i say:
"nítorí ipasẹ̀ rẹ̀ ni a dá gbogbo ohun (mìíràn) ní ọ̀run àti ní ayé"
Another translator may say:
"nítorí ipasẹ̀ rẹ̀ ni a dá gbogbo ohun ní ọ̀run àti ní ayé"
Take note of the word (mìíràn) it's appropriate to make the reader understand that the firstborn is also part of creation!

FxMasterz:
Why not be honest with yourself and admit that I never said needs are unlimited?
One of the points I made is that needs are insatiable. I have asked you if you do not NEED food, clothing and shelter anymore. Rather than answer the question, you're dribbling.

Ọmọ the word NUMEROUS or INSATIABLE shouldn't be used for human NEEDS as babies and old people are also humans yet they are SATISFIED with FOOD CLOTHING and SHELTER.
It's GREED that gives birth to insatiability and it's not all humans that are greedy!

FxMasterz:
Those theee things are still as insatiable as any other needs.

Guy admit that you're wrong now at least show some level of civility. You can't represent faith in God yet arguing blindly.

NEEDS are limited so any rich human can make it happen by providing FOOD, CLOTHING and SHELTER for many but WANTS is the problem of mankind because humans are never satisfied.

FxMasterz:
Have you now stopped needing food, clothing and shelter? Have you reached a point where you do not NEED to eat anymore? Where you do not NEED to wear clothes anymore? Where you do not NEED to dwell under a roof anymore? Answer my questions please.

That's what i'm telling you that it's WANTS that is numerous/unlimited as for NEED it's just those three things no matter how young or old you are those three are a must!

FxMasterz:
Warped thinking.

Have you read that human needs are numerous and insatiable?

When we are talking about problem solving, we mean human needs. When you need a car, that's a problem you need to solve. Someone solves the problem by producing numerous cars from which you can solve your car problem.

When you need a clothe or even food. Someone solves those problems by producing those things you need which you now buy to solve your problems.

If you don't understand the above fundamentals to have asked that immature question you asked above, it only shows how deeply messed up you are.

Do you really have the knowledge you claim?

The highlighted is wrong!

Human NEED is just three:
FOOD
CLOTHING
SHELTER

It's human WANTS that's unlimited Sir!

Pickup8:
That also goes with ALL RELIGION. Do you want to pretend ignorance of what Muslims were asked and are doing to anyone who leave Islam, same with Hindus. There is no religion or sect that is happy with people leaving their fold.
JW are not a cult as wrongly postulated.
I am a pentecostal anyway.

They are fulfilling what Jesus said will be done to his REAL disciples:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household? Matthew 10:24-25

So when we hear religionists of different sects saying this about us we rejoice greatly because that's what Jesus said will be done to his REAL disciples! Matthew 5:11-12

FxMasterz:
The primary aim of attending a university is to acquire problem solving skills.

So why is the world filled with problems?
Are you saying the universities aren't enough?

At least problem solving becomes easy among Jehovah's Witnesses as they keep managing the imperfection of members without resorting to weapons and WARS!

freshboi88:
Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Father. The one through whom the Father created all things. I mean Nothing that was made by the Father that was not created through Jesus. John 1:3 .
Attached is a screenshot of the scripture using the New world translation. Do you agree with this?

I can use any translation so i'm not obligated to use only one translation.

YES Jesus is the FIRSTBORN of all CREATIONS and God used him to create all other things {Colossians 1:15-16} just as Adam is the FIRSTBORN of all human whom God used to populate the earth! Luke 3:38

freshboi88:
You also have to agree to no copy pasted responses....do you agree ?

I will COPY and PASTE what God's word the Bible says.
We can't debate on what the Bible teaches without quoting God's word nah!

Freshboi88

I will tell you what i know about Jesus Christ as written in the Bible.

He is the son of the living God! Matthew 16:13-16

If you agree let me know if not air your own view!

Do the government still sentence some citizens to death?
Well God gave that nation a constitution and it includes death penalty!

freshboi88:
I am debating you on what you teach as a JW.

If truly you want to debate just kick off but no mention of any religion or church all we need is what the Bible TEACHES!

Are you ready?

Truvelisback:
Did He condemn the collection of offering?

The collection was ongoing in the temple where worshipers practiced JUDAISM he is still having serious issues with what he has said about the way that religion was conducted so he has no say on the way Jews practice their religion back then. In fact that's what led to his being accused, arrest and death!

Truvelisback:
Calling your place of worship Kingdom Hall is also wrong from Biblical viewpoint.

So what do you think people in the 21st century should call a place where people meet for special events?

freshboi88:
I am debating JWs teaching

You see what i mean!
That's why you must mention the name of your own church because all churches don't teach the same thing that's what led to so much contradictions.

freshboi88:
If you want to debate, our debate must solely be on Scripture. I already told you I have no denomination. I am for Christ and for the truth of scripture.

So in the course of our debate you must not refer to or quote any religion except the Bible, right?

Truvelisback:
Ok, calling your place of worship "Kingdom Hall", isn't wrong but our place of worship "Church", is wrong, right?

If you call a place of worship "CHURCH" it's wrong from Bible's viewpoint because the word "Church" means the congregation not a building!

Truvelisback:
Jesus collected offering. As a matter of fact, He even monitored the offering. That was how He knew what the poor old widow put as offering. He didn't condemn the giving of offering.

Please can you quote the verse where Jesus collected offering?
What i knew is that he sat at a distance with his disciples (friends) as they were watching people dropping money into the Temple's Treasury! Mark 12:41

Stayingalive:
What do you know about true Christianity?

True Christianity is about how God is using His Holy Spirit to gather imperfect but faithful and obedient humans in all the nations {Isaiah 2:2; Micah 4:1} these people will start paying rapt attention to what the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob said as written in the Bible {Isaiah 2:3; Micah 4:2} and the expected result of this is they will use what they found in the pages of the Bible to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop the production, buying, selling and using destructive devices, stop enrolling in the army and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

This is the greatest miracle that will destroy all the machinations of Satan {1John 3:8} whose intention is to see the entire human race wiped out {John 10:10} but who will establish such a program among imperfect humans? That's why a perfect child needs to be born among mankind {Isaiah 9:6} this child will grow into an adult as a perfect man he will then lead imperfect humans in the way of holiness {Isaiah 35:8} the establishment of Christianity was to achieve this goal that's why Jesus is called the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} as he will counsel obedient mankind to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Zephaniah 3:9

Of course there are thousands of groups claiming Christians today but out of them all only Jehovah's Witnesses are fulfilling this prophecy with their activities globally proving that the Prince of Peace has come and they are witnesses to the fact that his teachings can unite people of all nations in love! Act 1:8

Please if you have a better explanation about what true Christianity should do among mankind don't hesitate to air your views.

Thanks and God bless you!

jaephoenix:
I presume u did English language in school. But since the educational prerequisites for being a JW is illiteracy, I'll have to educate u
I never said all JW are molest.ers. Its not even possible. I said some of your members engage in those acts, and you jumped in and said they are all lies. Now u r backtracking and saying that since i claimed there are molester JWs in the US and since they brought JW into Nigeria then there should be molesters in Nigeria. Are you aware many child molestation cases are not even reported? I come across them in my line of work, and our police don't even help matters.
Also those stories are true. And for the last time, read them. The culprits actually confess to them. But your poor education wouldn't allow you to read that the part they confessed, instead u dismissed them as false cos they came from ex-JW. Also did this your mentally retarded brain ask u why they became ex-JWs in the first place? No
Idiota

Do you know any ORGANIZED people among whom there is no such thing?
I never said there is no such thing happening among JWs but your presentation was biased so i kept trashing it to see how far you can stand your own fallacy.
The truth is Jehovah's Witnesses organization is the most decent and peace loving group ever so when enemies of truth like you see any loophole you want to exaggerate it as if such a thing doesn't occur elsewhere.
The purpose of Christianity isn't about making imperfect individuals to become perfect in this system of things rather it is to gather faithful and obedient ones throughout the earth and start preparing them for the bright future when God will remove wickedness completely.
So out of all religious organizations ever formed on this planet only Jehovah's Witnesses are WORKING towards that goal but that doesn't mean you won't find people who are still struggling with their own individual traits among them. One thing God wants now is OBEDIENCE afterwards each person will start working on his or her own flaws to meet up with what lies ahead which is a perfect world.
But since you're a hopeless atheist you just want to discard it all by making it sound as if nothing can work that's why i too decided to play along so you can hug a transformer.
I told you such stories aren't true as they are exaggerating it otherwise such acts supposed to be rampant among them here too!

Oseone1:
The bible mentioned two people (King Herod & Pharoah) that celebrated their b\days, were they christians? NO. they even killed people on that day, Christ didnt celebrates his own, So you that is celebrating ur bday whom are u immitating? guy make u dey reason well

The truth is birthday celebration is from pagan origin that's why you can't see any worshiper of God who celebrated birthdays in the Bible.
Moreover God's word admonished worshipers to celebrate the last day a person spent on the earth {Ecclesiastes 7:1} because that's when we can say he or she has fulfilled the will of God {Ecclesiastes 7:8} now note that Jesus did exactly that by instructing his disciples to commemorate the day he died instead of his birthday {Luke 22:19} and trust his faithful disciples that is exactly what they continue practicing afterwards! 1Corinthians 11:23-26

This is why Jesus said his disciples will be labelled "CULTISTS" for sticking to his orders! Matthew 10:24-25

May you have PEACE!

lanzini309:
This is a big lie bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 people eghen

You can visit our website jw.org to know how contributions are collected and used among Jehovah's Witnesses!

Truvelisback:
Jesus collected offering and even monitored it. What would you say abt that? Biblically, an offering will only be accepted by God if it is done willfully.

Jesus didn't collect offering from anyone what he did was to commend a Judaist who was a poor old widow! Luke 21:1-4
After Christianity was established disciples of Christ began gathering whatever they had to assist one another, to support the ministry and missionaries that was what led to collections among them.

Myer:
Been meaning to ask you, do you now drink the holy Communion now?

I'm not one of the anointed!

freshboi88:
We are doing biblical debate and not church debate. I am ready for a biblical debate and not church debate

So we will not talk about any group or what they teach in the group as that must bring the question back since we don't want to debate church, right?

Truvelisback:
You said our place of worship is not a Church but you called your place of worship Kingdom Hall, why? Where in the Bible can you find a place of worship called Kingdom Hall?

We are in the 21st century and not ancient Israel so you can't expect a place to meeting in our time to be called TEMPLE or SYNAGOGUE nah!

EBEk101:
My bad sorry

It's good to judge people individually not as a group when talking about individual traits but when talking about TEACHING that's when we can judge by performance as a group because that's what they were all taught.
Judas Iscariot was bad as a person but that doesn't stop him from being active in the preaching and teaching work Jesus assigned to his disciples so if people see them together the fact remains that they're doing the work Jesus assigned it's individual traits that we will now treat not as a group.
Today most people are confused due to the characters of individuals found in different religions instead of what the religion teaches and the overall result in the society.
You can't tell me that there is no good person even among Boko Haram members because at a point in time some of them who were recruited into the group due to brainwashing began thinking differently after noticing that what the group is doing doesn't add up such ones truly prove that they don't belong there the same applies to all the religions you can think of on planet earth but when it comes to Christianity it's not about individual character rather what Jesus taught and the expected result!