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FxMasterz:
Maxindhouse
Judging from your own publication (excepts attached), do you think a Christian has the right to defend himself against another Christian who violently attacks him? You know Satan can just use anyone at anytime. Now, if your publication says individual self defense is right. Is it not individuals that make up a nation? Why is it that, what is good for an individual is not good for a nation?

Individuals attack differs from organized armed men receiving orders.

The one ordering them is the culprit not them as they're not acting on personal opinion rather a ruler is ordering them therefore it's the one ordering them that is at fault not those following orders! John 19:11

That's why Jesus was praying for those soldiers maltreating him because they were acting on orders so they can't say NO! Luke 23:34

For your information disciples of Christ can't pick up weapons to go attacking their fellow believers nah who are they obeying if that should happen?

Guy use your brain nah instead of following faithless miscreants gullibly!

Aemmyjah:
Don't mind him
Maybe if it was Dangote and his household, it would mean everyone working under Dangote
He's pretending not to understand simple English

He is just hilarious walahi talahi!

FxMasterz:
This is not what we're discussing my dear. But I just want to prove to you they you don't know the Bible. By saying "All the soldiers in his house" I do not mean all the soldiers under his command. I meant the soldiers living with him in his house. The scriptures made it clear that it wasn't just Cornelius and his family that listened to Peter. You might want to go and read Acts 10 again. Look at the scripture below. Take note of the bolded.
Acts 10:21-27
"Then Peter went down to the men which were sent unto him from Cornelius; and said, Behold, I am he whom ye seek: what is the cause wherefore ye are come?And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.
Then called he them in, and lodged them. And on the morrow Peter went away with them, and certain brethren from Joppa accompanied him. And the morrow after they entered into Caesarea. And Cornelius waited for them, and he had called together his kinsmen and near friends. And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man. And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together."
You can be sure that there were soldiers among his near friends. The two guys who were sent to Peter were definitely soldiers, and you can be sure that they too were in the meeting. Now, did Peter tell any of them to lay down his swords because he has just become a disciple?

Guy, the soldiers attached to his house aren't members of his house so they're no part of those who dedicated their lives rather it's his immediate family who shared the same beliefs with him!

FxMasterz:
Don't mind Him. Even the statement of Jesus alone shows the JWs don't understand the Bible.

If someone said Tinubu and all the members of his household accepted Judaism does it includes all the soldiers in Aso rock villa?

FxMasterz:
My dear, Cornelius and all the soldiers in his house that day got baptized after Peter preached.

Sorry you missed the understanding of what is highlighted!

Cornelius and his household differs from all his soldiers.

Soldiers attached to each centurion back then are mostly about 100 men they weren't the ones putting faith in God rather it's Cornelius and his immediate family so it's not soldiers in his house that the Bible was referring to!

FxMasterz:
Why would their time be up to be wiped out? Jesus doesn't want to love His neighbor as Himself anymore? Or what do you mean?
Meanwhile, the time is up for Maxindhouse to be wiped out of this planet, that's why he would fold his arms and watch as a murderer attacks his family.

Did you read Luke 19:27?

Who is talking there?

FxMasterz:
They won't fight against government. But they'll definitely defend their nations.
Tell us a scripture that says christians shouldn't join the army.
There were soldiers who gave their lives to Christ. They didn't leave the army because of that. Do you know this?
Cornelius was a soldier. Hope you know?

Cornelius hasn't been taught what Jesus commanded by the time he was serving as a soldier so after he's been taught what Jesus commanded he must drop that job because he can't be a Christian and at the same time going out to fight and kill his fellow believers due to the command of worldly politicians!

FxMasterz:
Why would Jesus kill all enemies of Christianity when He said you should love your neighbors as yourself?

Because the time is up for them to be wiped out of this planet! Luke 19:27
God will not continue to condone their faithlessness forever!

FxMasterz:
By not defending their countries?

They're not loving anyone by practicing this foolishness.

Love defends against aggressions. If you love your mother, you won't watch while she's been assaulted until she's killed. Love would move you to defend her.

If you have nothing to defend, it means you have nothing to love. That means you have no love. You only love yourself.

Why weren't Jesus' disciples defending their brothers when the Jews were killing them?

FxMasterz:
My friend. The answer is absolutely Yes!
What is the war of Armageddon all about? Tell us. Is Armageddon a war between devil and devil?

Armageddon is a war Jesus will lead his armies in heaven to kill all enemies of Christianity {Revelations 19:14} not so called Christians fighting and killings themselves!

FxMasterz:
There were.
Go and read about Ottoman empire. That's not what we're discussing anyway. Just change the topic. Mohammed too fought. He beheaded many Jews for rejecting his prophethood.
Christians never forced their beliefs on people. Go and study honest history. The Roman Catholic enforced her doctrines among her adherents, not on people of other faiths.
I'm not going to allow you turn this to a Zelensky and Putin discussion . Let's focus the topic.

Jesus commanded his disciples:

LOVE your neighbours! Mark 12:31
LOVE your fellow believers! John 13:34-35
LOVE and PRAY for your enemies! Luke 6:27-28

Only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are practicing this globally!

FxMasterz:
That's not the question.
He said "If my Kingdom is of this world". Take note of that.

So his disciples are citizens of this world's kingdom shey? John 17:14

FxMasterz:
What would Jesus do, if He were to be the President or King of any nation today? His servants will fight!
Stop asking irrelevant questions.

So he will lead the citizen of any nation his disciples will support the killing of their neighbours in another country but what if they have preached and taught citizens of that nations and many have become his disciples there?

FxMasterz:
That was not what Jesus was saying! If the crusaders and the nations didn't take up sword now, the whole world would have been under Islam! JW organization wouldn't be born. Even Russell s parents would have been Muslims.

There was no wars in Islam because Muhammad didn't set up to start fighting for his beliefs to be imposed on people rather it's the Roman Catholic Church he met claiming Christians that were forcing their beliefs on people so he has no option than to do the same!

FxMasterz:
It's foolishness to put yourself under the servitude of another for lack of good interpretation of scripture!
You mean if Russia has given Ukraine the condition that All Ukrainians should come out for their eyes to be plucked out as condition for peace, they should just go and lay down their eyes at the feet of the Russians? You guys should reason now!

How can people tell people to come out so their eyes could be plucked out?
Guy it's just between Zelensky and Putin that's all, both of them are dragging territories then their gullible neighbours are sticking out their necks to die for them while the families of Zelensky and Putin are safe somewhere.
Who born mumu?

So as friends of PEACE we stay away from their struggle whoever is there to rule is none of our business all we need is freedom to continue preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom anywhere we find ourselves!

FxMasterz:
He knew that people like you would misinterpret that instruction to love your enemies to mean, do not defend your country, that's why He made such statements as:
"...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." Luke 22:36
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence." John 18:36
Take note, "if my kingdom is of this world my servants will fight."

Who are his servants that will fight for him anytime he needs soldiers to fight? Matthew 16:27; 25:31 compare to Revelations 19:4

Guy it's the soldiers of his Kingdom that will do the fighting and they are angels not humans as they must not kill any of his disciples.

But your own soldiers are killing their fellow believers yet claiming they are for the same Christ!

FxMasterz:
So, that's racism to you?
That's not racism. Say something else.
Regarding soldiers. Soldiers represent their countries, not the church. By defending their countries, they defend their families and friends. If there are no soldiers in every country of the world where JW operates, JW wouldn't be able to function. Is JW functioning in Ukraine as we speak? The country was de-militarized like it is in JW doctrines. Russia attacked, and JW ran away. All their members ran away, leaving the country to burn. When the war ends, they would return there to enjoy the victory that other people shed their blood to have. That's wickedness.

What a pity you can't quote Jesus whom you're claiming is your Lord anymore!

Well let me help you out.
We are not in support of any ruler whoever is there is none of our business if Zelensky agree with Putin to take over Ukraine and rule the land nobody will die the only thing there is for the country (Ukraine) to return to Russia as part of that country.
So it's not about the citizens defending anything rather it's the selfish ambitious rulers they're fighting for while killing themselves.

The same thing happened during Jesus' time as his teachings is sinking into the hearts of his people the Pharisees and Sadducees decided to kill him because they felt without soldiers the Roman empire will take over the rulership of their land from them as Jesus is telling their people not to fight against anyone be it friend or foe! John 11:48

FxMasterz:
My dear, tell me how the church supports racism. I would also like to know how the country is defended against aggressions in the absence of an army.

If the Ghanaian presido is having serious issues with Nigerian presido what will they tell their soldiers to do and will RCCG members in Ghana pray for their fellow believers in Nigeria ati that time or carry weapons to kill them as their presido orders?

FxMasterz:
My dear, if there's no army in a country, who defends the country against aggressions?

Ask Jesus that question because he is the one who ordered his disciples to love their enemies not MaxInDhouse {Luke 6:27-28} and warned his disciples never to raise weapons against anyone be it friend or foe! Matthew 26:52

But let me help you a little.

According to Jesus of Nazareth there is no reason for a Christian to defend any place as we are no part of the world that's dragging seats for political reasons {John 17:14} neither are we in support of any human government because our government is not from this source? John 18:36

FxMasterz:
Will you then tell me the churches that use violence to settle their scores? Add incidental references.

Any church that there members are into the military services!

When their political leaders order them to go and kill their enemies none of them thinks twice about Jesus' command again! John 13:34-35

Abeg who is their ruler, Jesus or their fellow imperfect humans? Act 5:29

FxMasterz:
Let me tell you, many Christian organizations are doing serious Evangelism today. Deeper Life especially. Winners, Redeem, etc.

Abeg what is the essence of their evangelism when they're still supporting politics and racism sending their members into the army?

Perhaps your spiritual sight is blurred by the deception of Satan! 2Corinthians 4:4

Adeboye is the G.O. of all RCCG and Kumuyi is the G.O. of Deeperlife just as the Pope is G.O. of Catholic yet during political struggles members of all these religions will carry weapons to kill their fellow worshipers from the same denominations in other countries.

That's what Jesus' admonition made easy for true believers to see as satanic not just arguing fruitlessly!

FxMasterz:
JWs are not doing that! Instead, they're manipulating scriptures, meeting in masonic lodges and pretending to be Jehovah's Witness to deceive people. Their so called gatherings are not peaceful gatherings in anyway. There are incidents of sexual exploitations, child abuse, malice, hypocrisy, rifts and deception. There are several court cases against JWs bordering on sexual harassment and child abuse in many countries of the world.
Please stop the lies. You can tell that only to gullible individuals who know nothing about the organization.

You're really funny o!

So when people agree to settle their scores in within themselves without resorting to violence they're not peaceful shey?

Perhaps you misconstrued being peaceful to being perfect.

For your information there is no organization of imperfect humans without complaints but then when God promised that His worshipers will settle their disparities peacefully among themselves it doesn't mean there won't be any disputes but they will make sure it doesn't lead to violence! Isaiah 2:2-4

FxMasterz:
What do you mean by expectations? Is your own expectation God's expectation? Or you think God will use your expectations as His own expectation?
Who's expectation are the fulfilling by manipulating the Word of God? Maybe your expectation, and that of Satan.

What is the assignment Jesus gave his disciples and what are they expected to achieve with that work?

Let me answer the question then you can do the same based on your own understanding of the scriptures.

Jesus is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} so all his disciples throughout the globe must reflect that quality as WITNESSES to the fact that the Prince of Peace has walked this planet by forming a global family of peace loving worshipers in the name of the Prince of Peace! Act 1:8 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4

That's what Jehovah's Witnesses are doing today!

Now answer the question!

FxMasterz:
Many Christian organizations are doing God's will okay.

You're really hilarious!

First of all you advise someone who knew the name of God to listen to what someone who said the divine name belongs to a demon then you said many Christian organization are doing God's will yet only Jehovah's Witnesses have love for neighbours, fellow believers and those who pose themselves as our enemies! Mark 12:31; John 13:34-35; Luke 6:27-28

Whereas your so called Christian organizations are in support of politics and racism fighting and supporting the killing of their neighbours and even their fellow believers in the same God!

Ọmọ you're really funny o!

FxMasterz:
I don't have any business with the Jews. I was never sent them. Those who were sent to them have been given the wisdom they need for convincing them. That's why there were many Jews who became followers of Christ in Christ s day, and there are many Jews today who are Christians. Some of them are even pastors.
But for you, you love the manipulations in your books. Maybe you even became a JW because of those manipulations.

So you have no point when claiming people who are performing up to expectations are manipulating God's word which you don't even know it's meaning or practical application!

FxMasterz:
Maxindhouse, if I were you, for the love of my soul, I would ask this person to tell me more, and to show me where I can go to read and unravel secrets which I would then scrutinize deeply to ensure it isn't an attempt to blackmail an innocent organization.

It would be absolute foolishness to just dismiss these allegations as lies without deep scrutiny.

I can't be you because i believe in the adage that says "a bird at hand worths much more than a thousand in the sky" so instead i will ask anyone speaking against God's people to present a better performing organization that's doing God's will today.

Because that's the same way faithless people in ancient times used to speak against prophets back then! Matthew 5:11-12

FxMasterz:
My dear, a claim is different from a proof.

First Century Jews thought Jesus manipulated the scriptures but never for the life of them gave any proof of such manipulation.

Jesus taught his listeners to love and pray for their enemies {Luke 6:27-28} but the moses led the people to kill their enemies.

Jesus taught his listeners not to divorce their wives except on the ground of fornication {Matthew 19:9} but moses said they can divorce their wives if they find something indecent! Deuteronomy 24:1

So how do you convince a Jew till today that Jesus wasn't MANIPULATING the scriptures?

Jewish religious leaders knows the scriptures from Genesis to Malachi so they can quote as they have developed theological schools that's for teaching their man-made traditions but one thing is sure:
Man-made traditions and doctrines can't make people act with love and dedication so all their followers are just going about with their usual businesses they can't act on what they were taught.
So when Jesus began his ministry it became obvious that his teachings sinks down into the heart of his listeners and those whose heart compels them began acting on what he taught that's why the Jewish religious leaders started saying that Jesus was MANIPULATING the scriptures to suit his agenda. In fact when they noticed that Nicodemus was speaking in support of Jesus they said:

“You are not also out of Galʹi·lee, are you? Search and see that no prophet is to be raised up out of Galʹi·lee" John 7:52

So whatever he is teaching they want to demonize it before the people as they can't figure out why his teachings is making people to act {Matthew 12:24} meaning people should stop listening to him yet out of all the religions claiming worshipers of Abrahamic God in Israel in the first century only Jesus disciples were given the spirit of God to act on what their teacher taught them! Act 1:8

Today only Jehovah's Witnesses have the boldness to go out there and meet people in their homes just as Christ Jesus commanded his disciples! Matthew 10:11-13

So if anyone is saying they're MANIPULATING the scriptures to fit in to what they're doing why not present a better performing group than them so we can see another group that's practicing what Jesus taught as he commanded his disciples to do globally?

FxMasterz:
Oh!
It's godly to manipulate scriptures?

First century Jewish religious leaders also claim that Jesus was MANIPULATING the scriptures but wisdom is justified by her children! Luke 7:35

The so called manipulative teacher was the one and only Jewish Rabbi whose followers are able to fulfill what was written in the Bible book of Joel 2:28; Micah 4:1-3; Zephaniah 3:9 and Zechariah 8:23

Today the so called manipulative organization is the one and only group fulfilling what is written in the Bible book of Act 1:8; Isaiah 2:2-4 and Matthew 28:18-20

So whatever you say about them is your own personal opinion until you can present a better performing group than them!

In the beginning God told the first human pair that the life he gave them will be taken away from them if they decide to set their own standard {Genesis 2:17} because this will not end well {Jeremiah 10:23} therefore by setting standards for themselves they will make life miserable for themselves and their neighbours! Ecclesiastes 8:9
So according to God's word the wages of sin is death which is a return to oblivion {Romans 6:23} this arrangement is an ideal punishment for the unrepentant sinner as it makes sinners unworthy to continue living due to the course they choose! Romans 6:7
Please when did this arrangement change so that sinners no longer return to oblivion but will be kept alive suffering for all eternity?
Thanks!

Janosky:
2 Peter 2:5 , Noah was a preacher.
Achorladey MUMU, WAILING slave of 3 deities IDOLATRY.
Continue deceiving yourself capping GIBBERISH..

If 2Peter 2:5 is not enough to convince anyone that Noah actually preached to people of his time then there is no need to discuss further!

Kobojunkie:
I never attack Scripture!

Do you agree that everything found written in the 66 books of the Bible with it's 1189 chapters and 31,200 words were inspired by God?

According to God's word if two men struggles together and during the strife one of them hit a pregnant woman (mistakenly) in her belle and the child inside her happens to be deformed whether the eye or limb or any other part of the child is affected the man whose blow caused that should be dealt with his body part should be removed just as he did to the unborn child {Exodus 21:22-25} that is to say the man will be kept in prison until the woman delivers the baby he will be set free after paying a fine imposed on him by the husband but if there is anything fatal then his body part should go for it no fine can pay for that.
Do you think such would be the case if it's God who purposely made the child cripple or blind from it's mother's womb?

When talking about Perfection we meant what works perfectly as it should everything God made is working out as expected it's only we humans that turned this planet into something else that's why God sent us a manual because all those ruining the earth will soon be killed by the PERFECT GOD who created a perfect earth! Revelations 11:18