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FxMasterz:
As far as the Lord Jesus was concerned, He never left His disciples with half truth on any subject matter.

“I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now. However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come" John 16:12-13🙂

FxMasterz:
Chai! No be you say you go explain the meaning? Why you dey run? The meaning hard to explain?

Can you please quote where i promised to tell you the meaning of your national anthem?🙂

FxMasterz:
Maxindhouse, please can you kindly explain to.us why you receive donations and humanitarian aids?

You need to know the reason why they give such grants first before asking why God's organization do receive it.

First of all the government appreciates any group or association that's helping their citizens to be law-abiding and peace loving regarding that Jehovah's Witnesses organization is second to none globally even in Russia where their president banned Jehovah's Witnesses organization because we don't support wars he still gave us award for the best families training their children to be well behaved in the society.

So when such is given to God's people we welcome it of course it's individuals like you in Norway that's trying to stop God's people from getting what we truly deserve but after looking into the matter God's people were vindicated.

Can you now mention the name of any religion whose members are law-abiding and peace loving who don't go out protesting against the authority?🙂

achorladey:
He will even become OP spokesperson and moderator just for self glorification 😂🤣🤣

Do you know the meaning of what you typed at all?🙂

I'm talking about God's organization the only true religion that can respond to the OP and convince him that what he is saying makes practical sense and the religions doing it are false.

How is that self glorification when the OP doesn't even know the person who is chatting with him?

Surely you have lost it completely because the OP knows the organization i'm talking about not me!😂

achorladey:
The problem is not what they go about doing after disassociation. The key here is, is it a sin to DISASSOCIATE from your religious organisation?

The key is what you does afterwards!

Jesus said:

“When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through waterless places in search of a resting-place and finds none. Then it says, ‘I will go back to my house from which I moved,’ and on arriving, it finds the house unoccupied but swept clean and adorned. Then it goes and takes along with it seven different spirits more wicked than itself, and after getting inside, they dwell there; and the final circumstances of that man become worse than the first. That is how it will be also with this wicked generation.” Matthew 12:43-45

Wicked demons dwelling in you now are so wicked that you have become so restless, you can't put up a single thread to speak about your faith instead you rush to any thread where people are talking about God's organization only to malign God's people while you remain a fugitive that has no resting place to worship and Paul has said it's a sin to abandon the gathering of holy ones {Hebrews 10:24-31} this sin is unforgivable because you refused to get a better performing group in replacement for the one you abandoned hence you are proving yourself a direct enemy of God! Matthew 12:31-32

If anyone leaves Jehovah's Witnesses organization and join any other religion yet become so active in sacred service in his new found faith that shows such a person still have the love of God in him but never understood what he is doing wrongly but when you abandon the gathering of worshipers and keeps on speaking abusively of the group when you haven't found a better replacement.

Ọmọ your condition is worst o!🙂

achorladey:
It is good for those you call christendom to seek intercession through their SAINTS.

That is exactly what the Bible teaches there will be holy ones among God's people {Isaiah 33:1-3} the difference is the fruit of those you call "SAINT" Matthew 7:16-18

Have they been able to help worshipers to render judgment as in set matters straight among themselves, beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears, stop lifting up weapons against themselves, and vow never to learn war anymore? Isaiah 2:4

If the so called "SAINTS" can't achieve that then they are not the holy ones James was referring to! James 5:14-15🙂

achorladey:
There is one mediator between God and man - Jesus.

Jesus chose the apostles to serve as his representatives and said:

"I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of the heavens, and whatever you may bind on earth will already be bound in the heavens, and whatever you may loosen on earth will already be loosened in the heavens." Matthew 16:19

That's why James (Jesus' brother) said:

Is there anyone sick among you? Let him call the elders of the congregation to him, and let them pray over him, applying oil to him in the name of Jehovah. And the prayer of faith will make the sick one well, and Jehovah will raise him up. Also, if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. James 5;14-15

So in God's organization there are holy ones whose hands when laid upon a REPENTANT SINNER forgiveness of sin will be granted! 🙂

achorladey:
Are those who disassociate from the religion of Jehovah's witnesses sinners?

Whoever disassociate himself from any group or organization and couldn't find a better one but goes about maligning such a group anywhere it's mentioned is a wicked person.

That is exactly what Satan keeps doing!🙂

aswani:
What's the difference between these two and drug dealers fighting for street corners in the US?
Maybe it's a skit sha.

😂

achorladey:
Jehovah's witnesses kill fellow Jehovah's witnesses. Whether they get approval or no approval is not the point of this discussion.

This is where you get it completely wrong!

When Cain offered sacrifice to our God it wasn't accepted so Jehovah told Cain what to do for his sacrifice to be accepted. That is why Cain killed Abel and everyone knew from that Cain is no longer a worshiper of our God.

So you can never ever find Jehovah's Witnesses killing Jehovah's Witnesses it's unrepentant wrongdoer like you that will singlehandedly pick up weapons against Jehovah's Witnesses unlike your own people that will form different groups and start killing their fellow worshipers!🤣

achorladey:
When I sin against God, it is not MaxInDHouse that will forgive me. It is God.

You are free to sin against any deity of your choice but when anyone sin against Jehovah it's His worshipers that will plead for such a person.
So you have no business with us and our God?🙂

achorladey:
Approval or no approval from Jehovah.

Is exactly what counts because if a true servant of God believes such killing is unapproved by God he will never ever raise a weapon.

Saul was willing to kill David and everyone knew David has the opportunity to kill Saul but why did God's servant refrain from killing the wicked King?

Because Saul was God's anointed King.

That is a true witness of Jehovah not people like you who doesn't even know what to do in such a situation.

For that reason Jehovah declared David as a man after His heart.

WHY?

David feared to kill an anointed servant of God.

But atheists like you will continue deceiving yourself claiming you want to expose God's servants when you don't even know the difference between what God approves or disapprove!🙂

achorladey:
I don't need stories sort out.

Because it exposed your unrepentant attitude shey?
Nobody is forcing any imposition or authority on you it's either you are in or out simple as ABC!😂

achorladey:
Authoritative and imposition

All you need to do is renounce whatever attach you to them and walk away nobody is forcing you to stay.

Jesus said:

“If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and keep following me" Matthew 16:24

So if you don't want to it's easy just walk away simple neither Jesus nor his appointed men have any right to impose on you what you don't want but those who have surrendered must be submissive to them! Hebrews 13:17🙂

achorladey:
David killed Uriah
Benjamin and the rest of Israel in Judges
House of David and House of Saul

So God approved killing your fellow worshipers shey?😂

achorladey:
John didn't impose.

But he said authoritatively:

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works. 2John 10-11🙂

achorladey:
Jehovah's witnesses kill fellow Jehovah's witnesses in the Bible

Because Cain killed Abel shey?😂

achorladey:
The men came from that your so called Jerusalem where the central unit is located. So it is very correct to correct the nonsense from where it came from.

Ọmọ Jerusalem is the capital of Judea so the men from Judea aren't the elders and apostles o!😂

achorladey:
I don't need your validation like you need that of Satan's organisation to feel good

Good!
So when i say "my brothers" i am talking about only JWs!🙂

achorladey:
Your compulsory preaching work.

Was established by Jesus of Nazareth! Matthew 28:19-20🙂

Jesus talk {Matthew 18:15-17} his own disciples applied what he taught them by judging whoever goes against the norm of the group {1Corinthans 5:12-13} they are to avoid such a person {Romans 16:17} John said they should not even greet such ones! 2John 10-11

Apostate said it's individual decisions yet the Apostles didn't keep the application only to themselves privately but IMPOSING it on all members.

Surely Jesus saw it all saying you people will call us a cult for applying what he taught us! Matthew 10:24-25🙂

Floww23:
UV ran away from Matthew
It's an admonition to each Christian " Brothers keep your eye"
Each Christian observe and come to their own conclusions
NOT IMPOSED LIKE CULTS Do
Interestingly Your organisation Lied in Norway Courts that each person made the decision even though in practice it's three elders making the decision for the rest
That's why they quickly do away with the word Judicial committee
Comes to " YOU"
You - personal pronoun
Each person decides
Not IMPOSED LIKE CULTS

So when Apostle John said:

"If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works" 2John 10-11

Definitely apostle John is also a cultist shey? Matthew 10:24-25😂

Floww23:
Matthew 18:15-17 , an individual make his own decision
In your congregation , Elders impose the decision on others , the person might not offend you personally but once they read that they are no longer a JW, you have to comply , even if the Judicial have error Judgement, you all must abide. That's not out of freewill but Cult procedure. So don't ever bring Matthew 18 into this discussion again.

Go and correct apostle Paul and John that they shouldn't tell anyone what to do regarding excommunication!

Apostle Paul said:
"Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them" Romans 16:17

Apostle John said:

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works. 2John 10-11

Were they making individual decisions or telling all members what to do?

Just humble yourself and learn from Jehovah's Witnesses when it comes to the Bible nah our book whatever we hold seriously is found boldly in that book!🙂

achorladey:
The evidence and reality on ground states members have been caught killing fellow members without going to war.

Just as unrepentant wrongdoers in Israel killed faithful servants of God and God never approves such killing so this totally differs from religionists who pray to the same God, blessed weapons of war in the name of same God yet face and kill one another in the name of the same God!😂

Case closed OP is satisfied.

But if you know any religion that's ready to respond bring them here as for now only Jehovah's Witnesses have responded o!🙂

achorladey:
No they don't. Evidence of what happened in the book of acts tells of it repeatedly. Paul's letters are never vetted by anybody in Jerusalem. Paul's missionary journey was not vetted from any Central unit he admitted it even in Galatians

Paul was a Circuit overseer so his letter was based on observation regarding the need of the congregations but when it comes to what should affect all the congregations order comes from the apostles and elders in JERUSALEM! Act 15:1-3🙂

achorladey:
Acts 15:1,2 of Paul travelling to Jerusalem has nothing to do with central unit. The problem came from Jerusalem, it is very okay to go to Jerusalem and notify them that their are troublesmakers from that same so called central unit in Jerusalem disturbing the peace of others elsewhere.

Funny atheist!😂
Why sending Paul to Jerusalem nah?😂

achorladey:
The religious organisation of Jehovah's witnesses is one of the many teaching conflicting and contradictory doctrines. Some few months back storing your blood for future use is spiritual today it is more logical than spiritual.

We never acknowledge you people as part of us only those obedient to the Governing Body are our brothers while you people view religionists from different sects as your fellow believers!😂

achorladey:
Jesus in Matthew 7: 16 - 18 in content and context has nothing to do with religious organisation established by men who made themselves GODS over men and demean the role of Christ and being the grace of God to humanity.

Jesus is the one who established the work of preaching and teaching so that all his disciples must do only Jehovah's Witnesses organization made it a compulsion while others don't so the fruit of faith in Christ Jesus made clear! Matthew 7:16-18🙂

Adexvivacity:
He is surely gonna search for that power everywhere and anywhere possibly and come back stronger with the new name for his church....He wont relent.... Countless time, people later achieve that thing they once faked. God doesn't work the way those moraphuxkers act.

This is what has been happening since!

When each of them is expelled he goes in search of supernatural powers and when he comes back most members of that religion will follow him.🤔

FxMasterz:
Abeg, what's all the incoherent texts you presented above? Is that the meaning of the Nigerian anthem you promised to give?
Where's the meaning of the Nigeria anthem my dear?

So na mẹ go teach you what they asked you to recite each day you assemble as public officers and military personnels shey?
Ọmọ continue in your spiritual blindness! 😂

FxMasterz:
Would it take Him one year to explain to them that "No, I don't mean physical swords, I mean the Word of God".

Jesus told them:
“I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now. However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come." John 16:12-13

Stop deceiving yourself!🙂

FxMasterz:
Only God knows who my brothers are. Stop playing God.

But Jesus said:

"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35

Of course you never cared otherwise why shouldn't i know who my brothers in Christ are if i must love them just as Jesus loves me?🙂

FxMasterz:
Meanwhile, they can only prove that emptiness with their own human doctrines that have no foundation in Scripture.

Your brothers are fighting and killing one another in the name of defending their country {Revelation 6:3-4} whereas it's human rulers that's giving them such orders {Revelation 16:14} but we will never ever raise a weapon against our brothers in the name Christ Jesus! John 13:34-35🙂

Floww23:
" silent treatment. This can be very damaging" - Watchtower May 15,1996

Go and correct Jesus who initiated the idea of excommunication regarding any individual who proves to be difficult! Matthew 18:15-17🙂

Metrosavana:
It shows that there are many naive people in Nigeria who can believe anything.

We are Africans our faith is strongly tied to visuals than psychology that tells why false prophets/priests are cashing out in our society!

Was he adequately informed that this church wasn't looking for crowds?

Because most people in our society gets attracted to any form of worship where supernatural acts often occur in their minds problems will be easily solved in such premises.

So it's not the fault of our friend but that of those who trained him to become a priest!😟