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tctrills:
Good you clearly are not learning anything. The bible says you should love your enemies so you can be like your Father in Heaven. So if God can fight his enemies, clearly you to can go to war.

That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Jesus Christ wants us to follow the Father's example of love. We actually go to war because of love.
To protect our families and those around us.
The war against slavery was a war of love.
The war against Hitler was fought out of love.
Thanks to those who fought Hitler in WW2, many JW are free. Under Hitler you had no freedom.
So yes, it was an act of love for humanity that led people to fight evil.
I hope you understand it better now.

That's why i asked:
who are God's enemies?

Moderator101:
If you do that you will be adding more problems to your already existing problems. Run from them. They are a cult. Feel free to do research about them online.
What if you were born in Iraq or Gaza?
What if you were born blind, deaf and dumb?
There are people out there going through much more worse situations.

Online that you don't even know those behind the information!
Why not look to those in your neighbourhood?

Well it's not everyone that's really intelligent to figure out the truth on their own {Exodus 23:1-2} and hold fast to what is good! 1Thessalonians 5:21

Chamukebenson:
i love chrismas celebrations and all that just thee barrier

Christmas was instituted to send a wrong signal to the minds of billions but then you will get over it gradually as you compare what you will gain through accurate knowledge of God's word and festivities that adds no value to your bliss. If Christmas could do it why do you have to think of being worthless despite having this so called Christmas at the corner?

Chamukebenson:
i just hate being in this world, My life is like a horror movie.

It simply means Christmas adds no value to your life!

Guy in all of these Jesus is talking about humans who pose as enemies to their fellow humans not enemies of God so you don't get the sense of what you're saying here.
God's enemies are CURSED because they just don't want pure worship to stand unlike your human enemies who don't even understand what is happening God's enemies are ready to kill the truth even if they're oppotuned to see it face to face. Matthew 12:31-32

tctrills:
Good question. You read some verses but you failed to understand.
Now pay attention.
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5 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:

2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,

3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;

24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.

26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.

27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:

32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:

34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:

35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.

36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.

37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

From these verses, we learn that we must love our enemies to be like our father in heaven.
This tells you that God loves his enemies.
He loved the children of Benjamin yet he still sanctioned their killing.
So when you read love your enemies it is not an end to war.

tctrills:
Loool. So you believe that God does not love his enemies.
Angels don't love their enemies.
And when God says love your enemies, it means no use of weapons right.
But you can still use a weapon against your wife's rapist.
You have a very confused religion.

I have told you this time without number but i will repeat today for the benefit of those who are following this thread.
An ENEMY is someone who wish you evil so it pleases such a person to see you hurt and if he or she has the opportunity of inflicting pain on you he or she won't hesitate.
A rapist doesn't hate you he or she is driven by uncontrolled desire.
Common sense should tell you that these two aren't of the same category, you can think of a way to stop a rapist by attacking became such a person is DOING what everyone knows is wrong but the enemy will not give you a single sign for you to be suspicious, they will not show their face neither will they live a trace for the law to catch up with them.
So when Jesus said we should love our enemies the rapist is your neighbour that you must love to regain his or her senses because that one is not an enemy to anyone.

tctrills:
Oga are you confused. We are not talking about worshipping other God's please come back to the topic. You are clearly lost. Try and calm down

What did God say about His enemies nah?

tctrills:
See this idiot. You mean in the days of the prophets God did not expect the children of Israel to love?
Again I ask you, does God love his enemies because you don't understand the verse you quoted and I am ready to teach you as always

tctrills:
To show you how foolish you are, who would fight the battle of Armageddon?
Or would love your enemies no longer apply ? Stop quoting what you don't understand. Or ask us to teach you if you don't know

Mumu!
Nah angels go fight for God's people at that time because we have been ordered by the king not to raise weapons against anyone be it friend or foe!

tctrills:
Again you clearly don't understand the verses you quoted and I will prove it to you with just one question. Dies God love his enemies?

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me. Exodus 20:5

Learn from the highlighted!

tctrills:
Your children na

No wahala as long as they desist from obeying the Christ they are CURSED whether they are my children or not so leave matter for Mattias!

tctrills:
Oh see this fool. So only the children of Israel are allowed to raise weapons?
Now see how foolish you are, you stupidly quoted love your neighbor and love your enemies forgetting that it was the same children of Israel who you claim are the only people permitted to kill that Jesus Christ was speaking to at that time.

FOOOOOL!

God spoke to them by means of prophets before Christ Jesus {Hebrews 1:1-2} but after Christ they must all obey whatever Christ says {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} so CURSED they are for disobeying the Christ who commanded his own disciples to LOVE and PRAY for their enemies! Luke 6:27-28

tctrills:
You obviously can't help you kids since you go about cursing them

Cursed is any child who disobey the law of Christ!

tctrills:
Good so we can now judge wrongdoers and kill them. You guys keep confusing yourselves.

Ọ̀DẸ̀!
Are you an Israelite?
Guy the connection between me and the God of Israel is Christ Jesus who taught me to LOVE my neighbours as myself {Mark 12:31} LOVE my fellow believers just as he love me {John 13:34-35} and LOVE even pray for my enemies! Luke 6:27-28

So where is the chance to raise weapons against anyone? Matthew 26:52

Come and let's TEACH you the word of God.

tctrills:
Continue, I only pity your cursed kids

Ọmọ leave matter for Mattias joh CURSED is anyone who desist from obeying the law of Christ after knowing it.
Read your Bible you can't save your children the only way you can help them is by telling them the truth as revealed in God's word.
They will be CURSED if they turn against the law of Christ but i can't blame you since you don't even know the meaning of John 3:16

tctrills:
Lool.
God could have struck them himself if he had a problem with weapons of war but he send Israel against them.
Lesson, God was not against war.
Also what about when Hitler's led Germany turned against God?

According to God's word it's the Israelites that should kill whoever go against God's law. Deuteronomy 13:8

So God ordered the Israelites to JUDGE wrongdoers among them.

tctrills:
Good for your cursed kids. My own kids would never be cursed. They are blessed forever.

CURSED is any of my children who desist from obeying the law of Christ! Deuteronomy 18:19
I won't stop laying curses on any so called child that stopped obeying God's word because they're CURSED already!

tctrills:
Was Benjamin not among the house of Israel? .

From the moment they turned against God's laws they're as good as DEAD before the true God!

Chamukebenson:
Nice read, this really lifted my spirit, might give Jehovah witness a try one day

Never mind what anyone say about JWs nor the attitude of some because most of them were born by JW parents so they don't really know the value of what they had until they're disfellowshiped and they can't find solace in any other religion!

Jerryhare:
Leave Op alone, answer my question first

Guy rest jare!

tctrills:
Please just read what you wrote and explain it.
To you does your above statement make any sense?

To you or to me?

tctrills:
Correct keep cursing your kids.
My prayer for my kids is that if they ever desist from the right way, like the prodigal son, the would remember and return.
They would miss the joy of the Lord's presence and return. Anyway, we are two different fathers. And I won't teach you how to run your family so keep cursing your babies.

CURSED is any of my children who desist from obeying the law of Christ! Deuteronomy 18:19

tctrills:
Are you asking a question here? Please in what bible verse was war ban.

God's word BANNED His worshipers from fighting against themselves because they need His support to destroy the enemies of pure worship. Go through Genesis to Revelations and quote where worshipers of God were told to go and fight against their fellow believers!

tctrills:
Oga are you an idiot? Honestly I am not insulting you. Listen to yourself. "They didn't fight Benjamin.
So it was ghost that fought against Benjamin.
You stated your write up with foolishness.

You're just a nuisance walahi talahi.

Go and read the story then you will understand that fighting wasn't what brought Benjamin down but God's order to punish them!

tctrills:
Good for you.

CURSED is any child of mine who desist from obeying the law of Christ.
Amen in Jesus name! Deuteronomy 18:19

tctrills:
I can't remember please remind me. Bloody coward. You will keep running because you don't have an answer

Go back to the post lazy idiot!

tctrills:
Good so we both agree that the children of Israel were right in raising weapons.
Hence children of God can raise weapons.
Like the children of Benjamin, the people of Germany were wrong in WW2.

You're a clown walahi talahi.
Children of God can raise weapons against who?

tctrills:
You were asked to quote a verse that tells christians not to go to war and you come up with some personal opinion. Please were the Children of God against Christ when then fought Benjamin?

They didn't fight Benjamin God ordered them to go and destroy Benjamin for disobeying God's law.
If it's about fighting God never supported it not until they reported the matter to God and He ordered them to go and kill Benjaminites.

So study your Bible it's not just about fighting but justice against wrongdoers!

tctrills:
Sorry quote the verse you claim I dodge let's see who is dodging. If you did not understand the question better say so. I promise to explain

Quote what i gave you nah!

tctrills:
Lool. I have the most loving kids in the world and I don't curse them or threaten them with curses. So keep cursing your kids. Good job

Cursed is any child of mine who desist from obeying the law of Christ!

tctrills:
Clearly the children of God (Israel) were against Christ in fighting against Benjamin. Confused man

On the contrary the Benjaminites were against Christ for doing what is deserving of death according to God's law!

tctrills:
Please point to the verse and stop giving me your opinion.

So it's my opinion that the doctrine of Christ is to save lives shey?
Go and buy weapons for your children they will need it during disagreement!

tctrills:
Please answer the question you where asked. What verse show that none of the disciples took sides.

I know you will dodge it as if it hasn't answered the question but go and show it to someone else and explain what we discussed.
I won't force the truth into your skull!

tctrills:
Lol they obviously can if not you wouldn't need to threaten them with curses. I trust my kids love themselves so I don't need to curse or threaten them with curses.

Cursed is any child of mine who raise weapons against his fellow believers when Christ Jesus commanded that he should LOVE his fellow believers just as Christ did. John 13:34-35

Ọmọ your children will surely kill themselves because you support the use of weapons in settling disputes!