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tctrills:
John 17:17, 22 did not say we can disagree on many things as you say.
Also, Catholics do not disagree on any of the doctrines binding them together.
Not going to war is a JW doctrine not a Catholic doctrine.

Ọmọ the doctrine of Christ is about saving lives not destroying it so whatever makes any group of worshipers agree to raise weapons then they're against Christ not to even talk of killing their fellow believers during WARS!

tctrills:
Again, what verse states that the disciples did not take sides?

They are disciples of Christ not of Paul neither are they disciples of Barnabas! 1Corinthians 3:4

tctrills:
Good so the fact that I and my wife did not take sides does not make it any less serious.
People not talking sides is not a sign of a fight not being serious.
Good you are learning.

But taking up arms is of serious concern.
Are you with your brains now?

tctrills:
You were asked to point to the bible verse, my children are not mentioned in the bible sir. Please go back to the question, I allow you a second attempt.

My own children can't raise weapons against one another if they believe what i taught them is truth!

tctrills:
So what verse in the bible teaches you what to disagree upon and what not to disagree upon. Please quote, we are waiting.

We can disagree on so many things except the doctrine binding us together as brothers and sisters! John 17:17, 22

If you say you like a tall lady and i say i don't it's a disagreement but does it have any impact on what we were taught to believe?

NO nah!

tctrills:
And how do you know the disciples did not take sides please send me the verse.
Again is it only when people take sides that a disagreement is serious. So if you divorce your wife and your friends refuse to take sides, it's not serious. A friend of my divorced last year and I and my wife refused to take sides so I guess it's nothing serious.

Do you even know the meaning of DIVORCE?

Ọmọ two people are legally married and they decided to SEPARATE is against the law of Christ but when two missionaries (not married) decided to go their separate ways is no one's business after all each has his own disciple making assignment.

tctrills:
Where is that written. If their beliefs don't declare war a sin then fighting a war does not disagree with their beliefs.

Hen nah!
Just as your own children can kill one another!

Ọ̀DẸ̀!

tctrills:
Please my own bible does not contain the verse where it's written that Peter Agreed.
Can you please show me the verse?
Again also send me the verse where Silas agreed.

@2Peter 3:15
Peter called Paul his beloved brother in Christ!

tctrills:
How many days did it take Paul and Silas to agree?
Also, would you raise weapons against your wife's rapist?

They don't need to because each person have his or her choice of companion regarding their missionary journey, but on doctrines they must preach and teach the same thing so that their fellow believers may know that they are on the same page!

tctrills:
You are returning to your vomit. Every religion agrees on their beliefs.

LIE!

If they agree on beliefs there should be no reason to raise weapons against one another!

tctrills:
Oga I did not say Paul and Silas disagreed over doctrine but clearly they could not agree and did not settle for as much as we know.
So do you now know that even the best Christians disagree? You are welcome.

That's not serious otherwise some disciples will take side with Paul while others take side with Barnabas just as Putin and Zelensky had a DISAGREEMENT and heads has been rolling both in RUSSIA and UKRAINE.

Doctrines connotes standard or rules guiding adherents so any DISAGREEMENT on that means your god is DEAD!

tctrills:
Again you need to learn the English language. But let me teach you once again.
Listen to Paul's words.
I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
This simply means, 'I openly disagreed with him.
I guess you are mostly a good boy but your major problem is understanding English language.

Paul corrected Peter and Peter AGREED Sir!

tctrills:
MaxinDHouse can see that his disagreement excuse was a very unintelligent one so the need to qualify it.

DISAGREEMENT is what leads to killings but then when believers disagree it shouldn't take then more than one day to resolve it {Ephesians 4:26} because we must not hate our fellow believers to the point of thinking of how to kill them.
So only JWs AGREED on doctrines as we will never ever raise weapons against our fellow believers!

tctrills:
Paul had doctrinal related disagreement with Peter.
Galatians 2:11-14
So are these no longer Christians?

That's not a DISAGREEMENT nah!

Peter as usual committed a blunder due to the fear of men and Paul called him to order, if that's what you call a DISAGREEMENT then you need to go back to your dictionary again!

tctrills:
Paul and Silas led to them breaking ties and going separate ways and you call that minor? That was a total divorce.

Paul and Barnabas were both missionaries so they can travel each on his own without having to go with the other but then Mark who happens to be a disciple was asked to stay behind by one and the other DISAGREED that is not on doctrine Sir!

tctrills:
Not necessarily?
So Israel and Gaza are at war. But it doesn't mean the average Israeli is in disagreement with the average Gazan.
Also do you agree that even the best Christians e.g Paul also disagree?

I said when it comes to AGREEMENT on beliefs only JWs have it.
Paul had a disagreement with his fellow believer regarding who should be taken on their missionary journey not on doctrine.

Israel and Gaza are at war because there is no agreement between their rulers so Christians having the law of Christ can never ever go to war against one another because the law of Christ will be used to settle their differences.

So do you now see why only JWs AGREED on doctrines? Whatever makes religionists claiming worshipers of the same God to raise weapons against one another then their God is DEAD!

tctrills:
Oga let's summarize.
All people have disagreements. Christians, Children of God and all men. So now that you agree that even christians can disagree, you have shifted the post to the use of weapons.
You see your entire argument never made sense.
So can we now talk about the use of weapons now if that is what you want.
Would you use weapons against your wife's rapist

Whatever makes people raise weapons against themselves they're in DISAGREEMENT.

Do you agree to that?

tctrills:
That's your relationship with your kids as for me, I will try to be like the loving father of the prodigal son.
I owe my kids nothing but my never failing love.

No child of mine should turn against the law of Christ to the extent of raising weapons against anyone in fact Cursed is that child who will raise a weapon against his fellow believer after reading what Christ Jesus commanded!

tctrills:
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How do you know one took sides?
If Paul and Silas could have a disagreement then you have no point. Did their disagreement stop them from being Christians or children of God?
Even during his life time, the Apostles of Jesus Christ had disagreements.
So what really do you mean?
Are you saying members of your church never have disagreements?

Now you're talking like someone with his brain working!

Imperfect humans will surely disagree on some matters but when they start planning to use weapons then whatever they claim as believe becomes WORTHLESS.

BELIEVE connotes TRUST so what they trusted must be used to settle their disparities {2Timothy 3:16} failure to do so means they never AGREE on doctrines!

tctrills:
You are free to curse your kids all I have for my kids are my blessings and love

I will CURSE whoever failed to use what i taught them to settle matters peacefully in fact such a child will face the wrath of God for turning against the order i got from my Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus!

tctrills:
I would teach my children the dictionary meaning of Agreement and not make up some new definition because I am not a clown or an idiot.

Good!
Teach them whatever pleases you but i will teach my children to make sure nothing separates them {1Corinthians 1:10} and lay a curse on anyone lifting weapons so once they lift weapons against one another then they're no longer my children!

Ọmọ use your brain and don't let someone else tell you how to use it.
Whatever makes people lift up weapons against one another then they are not in AGREEMENT!

tctrills:
Good now you are beginning to use your senses again.
So catholics agree in their doctrines
Muslims agree in their doctrines
Methodist agree in their doctrines.
Simple are short.

Yet the doctrine allows them to carry weapons against themselves shey?
What sort of AGREEMENT is that?

tctrills:
2 catholics can fight each other but the still wouldn't have any issue over what they agree upon. Good you have started using your head.
Paul and Silas had some disagreements yet they were still christians because they agree on the doctrines of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Whatever leads to a fight is DISAGREEMENT.
Paul and Silas had a MINOR disagreement that is why nobody could take sides unlike your so called religionists whose members takes side and start slaughtering one another!

tctrills:
Do you realize that you can make your point without making a fool of yourself?
Just say that you are against all wars and that would do. You don't need to redefine the meaning of Agreement for the sake of arguments. It only shows dishonesty and desperation.

The word AGREEMENT means we won't have any issues over what we have AGREED upon Sir so WARS is a sign of DISAGREEMENT!

tctrills:
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The only pill I am finding difficult to swallow is how a grown man like you who is educated yet you don't know the meaning of the simplest words.
I have asked you to link me to your JW dictionary yet you refuse. You can't be taking serious.
It seems you just came here to make jokes.

tctrills:
It seems MaxinDHouse is only coming here to joke and say stupid things. I guess he is just trying to catch fun and entertain himself in some weird way.

Tell your children that people using weapons to slaughter one another have AGREED on the same line of thought regarding doctrines as for me and my own children AGREEMENT means what they must hold so dearly and never allow anything to turn them against the AGREEMENT!

Emusan:
Can you provide where members of Trinitarian agreed to carry weapons against themselves?

Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda, Russia and Ukraine are examples of TRINITARIANS killing themselves while their clergys watch them kill one another even offering prayers to their TRINITY god to choose which side it will back during the genocide!

tctrills:
Every group has followers good or bad do you have no point. My point is simple, learn to use your dictionary. Agreement actually has a meaning and it can be found in your dictionary.

Ọmọ the TRUTH remains that there is nothing like AGREEMENT when you can't use what you claim you agreed upon for any benefit.

If you and i agreed that 2+2=4 it's not just about head knowledge but practical benefits so in the absence of practical benefits it simply means we are DECEIVING ourselves.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses AGREED among themselves over doctrines that's why they can use it for TEACHING, for REPROVING, for SETTING THINGS STRAIGHT, for DISCIPLINING among themselves! 2Timothy 3:16

I know it's a hard pill but manage to swallow it Sir!

tctrills:
Oga, English language is not about common sense.
If you had common sense as you claim, then you will stick to the common definition.
If you definition of a word is not consistent with the dictionary then it's a case of uncommon stupidity and not common sense.

I have heard you at least others are following so let them learn from what you called COMMON SENSE Sir!

tctrills:
If after teaching you and even introducing you to a book called the dictionary, you still can't define agree, then you can't be helped. I can only pray that your children don't inherit your intelligence or lack of it

You only need the common sense my friend.

Satan lied to religionists claiming they AGREED on doctrines when the so called doctrines can't be used to settle matters peacefully among them.
That's what God's word defined as LIE / FALSEHOOD/ DARKNESS!

God's word said:

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness. 2Timothy 3:16

Before Christ Isaiah prophesied:

He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:4

So if any group or organization claim they AGREED on some forms of doctrines but they can't use it to achieve the above then they've been BLINDED by the God of this world {2Corinthians 4:4} because there is no agreement when we can't make GOOD use of what we have to achieve what we need which is LOVE JOY and PEACE among adherents of any so called DOCTRINE if it's the TRUTH! John 17:17, 22

tctrills:
let's say we have a definition problem.
So let's please define the English word.
The word Agreement is not a product of the JW church rather, it's a simple English word.
Here is a simple definition
agreement
əˈɡriːm(ə)nt
noun
harmony or accordance in opinion or feeling.
the governments failed to reach agreement.
So do the Catholics agree on for example Trinity? Yes they do.
Do members of deeper life agree on their doctrines, yes they do.
Do Moslems agree that Mohamed is a prophet? Yes they do.
I hope you now have more understanding.
Agreement means harmony of opinion.
Every religious sect has harmony of opinion. No religion can exist without it's followers having harmony of opinion.
So even if 2 members are fighting as long as they share the same harmony of opinion, that is a religion.
Please go back to your English class bro.

Ọmọ the word "AGREE" has a deeper meaning than what you're saying so don't allow Satan to blur your senses with language issues.

If you could AGREE with someone to destroy everything you've worked for all your life then i congratulate your English teacher!

How can two sane humans claim they AGREED that Muhammad is a prophet of God yet failed to use what God's prophet said to settle matters peacefully between them?
Imagine you having two children and you've taught them a lot about love joy and peace as children belonging to the same father, then the two has issues only to resort to picking up weapons against each other.
Ọmọ will you be proud to say you're their father?

achorladey:
For example, billions agree on the TRINITY doctrine for ages as truth yet the madness and insanities peddling peddler aka MaxInDHouse will say what they believe is a lie

To Pharisees Jesus said:

You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie. John 8:44

Let's analyze this, according to Jesus.
(1) That Jewish sect has a father.
(2) They will do the will of their father.
(3) Their father is a murderer when he began.
(4) Their father hate the truth.
(5) Their father speaks LIES.
(6) He speaks according to his own opinion.
(7) He lies naturally as if he's born to do so.

What has TRINITY achieved for centuries in the midst of adherents?
Trinitarians say Jesus is their King yet they have ignored the order of the King who said:
Love your neighbour as yourself {Mark 12:31} but the worst is how Trinitarians will carry weapons against one another and still bless the weapons in the name of Jesus to kill their fellow believers that Jesus commanded them to love just as he loves! John 13:34-35

Honestly speaking do you still think TRINITY is of the TRUTH? Revelations 6:3-4, 9; 17:6; 18:24; 19:2

It's normal in the world for some people to hate others for a reason best known to them but it's inhumane to hate the TRUTH.

How can you struggle through school, get fine job, marry, have healthy children, acquire lots of properties and instead of sitting back to enjoy the fruit of your labour you choose to AGREE with someone else who has acquired the same thing to carry weapons and slaughter each other and while you're looking forward to killing each other you AGREED that he should bomb your wife, children and all what you've laboured for all your life?

Ọmọ and you still call that an AGREEMENT!

Haba Satan is really wicked o!

tctrills:
First, please learn to use your dictionary and understand your definitions before talking to educated people. Your definition of "Agreement" can only work among illiterates and semi illiterates. The definition of Agreement has nothing to do with war or carrying weapons
In fact, a people can agree to carry weapons.
So please, work on your education. It's not ok that I have to teach you all the time.
It takes time and effort to study and use a dictionary so stop being lazy

OLÓDO!

So to you when people agree to carry weapons they will also agree to start killing themselves shey?

Walahi talahi e no go better for Satan! John 8:44