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MindHacker9009:
You cannot pick and choose what you want from what Jesus has spoken below. If you are believer in Jesus christ, then all these signs should follow you today.
Mark 16:15,18
15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 "They will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all”

After telling you:

MaxInDHouse:
The book of Mark 16 ends at verse 8
Check most versions to be sure of what i just told you!

OK nah!

OLAADEGBU:
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OK i get you now.
When Kumuyi goes against your favorite things you run to Bodie Hodge.
You're doing just fine Sir!

OLAADEGBU:
Kumuyi does brainwash people he preaches the full gospel of how the blood of Jesus washes you from all your filthiness and presents you clean and holy before the Almighty God.

Does the highlighted include abstaining from IDOLATRY?

MindHacker9009:
So why are many Jesus followers today speaking nonsense gibberish as speaking in thongs?

Are you still asking me if you understand the post?
Well they're following the trend not God's word! Matthew 15:7-8

Sand2022:
A single sin will warrant an immediate Judicial Committee.

For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do you not judge those inside, while God judges those outside? “Remove the wicked person from among yourselves" 1 Corinthians 5:12-13
Please who are to do this JUDGING in the absence of a JUDICIAL COMMITTEE?

Sand2022:
If you discuss with anyone disfellowshiped, you stand to be disfellowshiped yourself if you don't stop talking to them.

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works! 2John 10-11
Apostle John said we must stop talking or greeting disfellowshiped ones.

Sand2022:
They obviously do this to maintain control and silence any critic. They even make it righteousness to report any who go against their view.

Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought. 1Corinthians 1:10
Paul explained that whoever doesn't agree with the oneness we shared shouldn't be viewed as a brother anymore:
"Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them" Romans 16:17

Sand2022:
So we can see that the policy is not bible based, it's geared towards maintaining a high control religion. That is the logical conclusion.

We based everything on the scriptures just as the first century Christians adhere strictly to the teachings of those taking the lead among them! Act 2:42; Hebrews 13:17

May you have PEACE!

OLAADEGBU:
Empty claims with no evidence. Does this show how much you’ve been brainwashed in your society? 🧠

At least Kumuyi can only brainwash you to go to his church and hail him but when it comes to what he found as truth you are not brainwashed to live by it!

MindHacker9009:
If you start speaking Japanese just of a sudden without ever learning such then that's an extraordinary event. But if you start speaking nonsense gibberish as speaking in thongs then your sanity needs to be questioned.

The truth about miracles is that most of you don't know why God often intervene in some cases. If there's a message you need to pass to an Indian but you have colleagues who are also Indians is it necessary for you to speak the language anymore when you already have someone who also wants to share the same message in that particular language?

At Pentecost 33 C.E. all the disciples of Christ Jesus were Jews those visitors that came to Jerusalem to worship were Jews residing in far away nations and prostyles who have learned how to speak Jewish language due to their love for Judaism so for the message about Christ to sound unique and having God's backing that's why the Christians were granted the power to speak those strange languages.
That event happened once and never was it repeated so for some to think they have to speak in tongues as a sign of God's backing for their religion makes no practical sense after all it's the same message your church wants to pass that others around you are passing!

FRANCISTOWN:
Lol! Badman things

Polygamy itself is badman things so there's no way we can justify it while condemning the act involved in polygamy. Polyandry is demonized here because Africans don't practice it but in places where it's accepted how do you set rules barring twosome?

If polygamy is allowed what stops the man from doing it with the two women on the same bed?
The first man who took two wives at a go is called Lamech {Genesis 4:19} however when God created the first couple they were naked {Genesis 2:25} which means there was nothing to be ashamed of between husband and wife regarding their nudity.
So if two women now agree to share one man where is the rule that says the three should be ashamed of their nudity since they all knew that it's no longer hidden?
Women often feel free when it comes to nude among themselves just as men also feels it's only when there is gender differences that we think of privacy but when two women agree to share one man i don't know what stops the man from having them at the same time.
Perhaps you detests the word "twosome" been not a religious term but i will like to know if there's a rule barring a man from having his two wives on the same bed.
Thank you!

MindHacker9009:
But why are people so gullible and not questioning all these gibberish they are being disturbed with by all these nuisance speaking in thongs?

MaxInDHouse:
So everything whether old or young is FAKE!

KnownUnknown:
The same reasons you don’t question the extraordinary things you believe.

That's why i appreciate atheists and agnostics much more than people who claims they trusted in some books called "inspired" without questioning yet they will question the sanity of others who also believe in others books regarded as inspired!

Kingsnairaland:
Bible shows the secret to how God saves people. When you receive Jesus as your lord God and savoir then Jesus comes into your life into your heart and starts to work on you. It step by step process that God uses first he gives you his holy spirit which will make you you always call God my father my father. Then you will want to make God happy by obeying God as you desire more to obey you may raise and fall back in sin but at the end sin will not have dominion over that child of God. Homosexuality will die inside him he will not desire it he will not hunger for it. I use to smoke cigarettes many years ago and I use to hunger to go to church then one day the power of God hit me in church then people began to want to have the same powers that hit me. Then I began to hide smoking in public I began doing it only in my room so that I will not disappoint those people that know what God did to me in church. Then as time goes on one day I smoke in my room and I felt like this thing has no taste the desire for it began to die and I did not even know when I stopped to smoke I just lost desire for it, it took me three years to stop smoking. So I believe God has millions of way to solve any sin to die in any one once they are his child because God word can never fail. God said sin will not have dominion over his children. So any one that is a child of God who does homosexuality God will give him that same power to stop the homosexuality because you will want to please God when you are his child. Our heart cries my father my father.

Please you're not saying anything tangible here. The question is:
Can a worshiper of your God still continue to practice homosexualism?
We all know that Christianity takes away habits forbidden by God and that's through the help of God's holy spirit with the effort of the one who wants to be saved.
But saying someone who deliberately choose to be a gay and also publicly marry as gay that is no longer a sign of repentance but looking forward to gaining acceptance in the society!

DoWhatThouWilt:
Was that scripture written for believers of today?

Mark never wrote that his book ends with 16:8

Aemmyjah:
Our GB won't slap anyone
They won't lie against Jehovah and Job to make people pay tithe... There was nothing like Tithe in Job day. They won't say anything to incite religious or political conflict. They won't say that people who don't pay tithe won't go to heaven. You defend them cos they tell you what you want to hear to make you feel good
I was a Pentecostal and i know it all
They made us feel so goo that we start screaming and dip hands into the pocket and give to papa God

Faith in itself is not a possession of all people! 2Thessalonians 3:2

So it's only faithful people that are interested in the truth as found in the scriptures.

FRANCISTOWN:
Anyone who does no heal the sick, raise the dead, speak with new tongues and cast demons out is not sent by Jesus. But only a group of jobless individuals who have nothing to do with their limited time. Bunch of retards

Since you don't want the book to appeal to anyone you just want to play the ostrich game and insult those believing it but if you're ready for knowledge check other versions of the Bible to know that the Bible book of Mark ends with verse 8 that's why you can't see anyone performing what you're expecting!

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FRANCISTOWN:
😂 I was having this discussion with Max on the other thread where I mentioned to him that their Jesus instructed them to heal the sick and all that.
But the dude said their Jesus only sent his disciples to the Jew whilst the book says "The disciples went everywhere (emphasis on everywhere, not just the land of the Jews).

If you're sure of your argument why not answer what i asked you?

Jesus expressly said:

These 12 Jesus sent out, giving them these instructions: “Do not go off into the road of the nations, and do not enter any Sa·marʹi·tan city; but instead, go continually to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" Matt 10:5-6

Which means the miracles aren't meant for the benefit of any nation outside Israel! Matthew 15:24

I know you want to argue but you lack the knowledge since your former pastors never told you the truth now that you know you just feel they should perform miracles anyway since first century (Jewish) Christians performed.

MightySparrow:
Hahahaha.
You assume RCCG, Winners, DCLM don't have missionaries in those places where they wear beards for identification.
Who is copying who?

If they do then how come none of them have beards on?
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the only group that speaks distinctively for all to know our stand as for your pastors they will act on what we say but won't say anything.
So i ask you again:
Why have they been shaving their beards if truly they aren't following what we teach?

MightySparrow:
Like the GB just hear beard wearing from God.

It is Oyedepo that influence the GB.
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Have you ever wondered why all your preferred pastors like Kumuyi, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Oyakilome, Lazarus Mouka and many others don't wear beards?
Well it's simply because they're following what the Watchtower taught under-G while they pretend to be against God's organization.
Now they've all been disappointed as God's organization suddenly announced that we must consider our brothers in Islamic nations!

MightySparrow:
I believe in Christmas. It is reasonable to me. Cancer has a day, tuberculosis diabetes, fathers, mother's, even pi(π) have days!
In most yoruba towns and villages today, popular fetish yearly celebrations are now being charged to x - day, y- day.
So?
If the world has not given a day to Jesus, I would have done it myself in my own house!

"You hypocrites, Isaiah aptly prophesied about you when he said: ‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines.’” Matthew 15:7-9

If you are following the world and it's trend you have chosen your preferred destination {Matthew 7:13-14} so continue in the things that's of utmost importance to you.

And as for the beard story God's organization must progress in the disciple making work Christ assigned to us and countries where the beard is their custom should not be left out {1Corinthians 9:19-21} God's word never mandated that we must not wear beards we only want to present ourselves as ministers of the gospel and as such our appearance matters a lot.

OLAADEGBU:
It’s interesting to know that you now believe Kumuyi is God’s servant.

I have told you several times that Mr Kumuyi is still following the teachings of JWs which he left some decades ago but you've always been saying it's not so. Now you can see that your so called daddy in da lord is following what the Watchtower taught him he's just interested in starting his own business called "church"
However if you are a member of his church you are the one who supposed to hold firmly to his teachings as your preferred man of God {Hebrews 13:7} i know he's a pretender who just want to eat from both side on one hand he wants to claim that he's building the church of Christ and on the other hand he is looking forward to gathering tithe payers.
Ọmọ he can't be as smart as Adeboye who is a real diplomat that one doesn't care about the teachings of the Bible all what he's after is how to make money through the gullibility of others. So your Kumuyi is FAKE that's why you can't strictly adhere to what he taught you even though you've been here for more than a decade hailing him.

ictplotter:
Luke 14 vs 26.
If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

Quran 17 vs 23.
For your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him. And honor your parents. If one or both of them reach old age in your care, never say to them ˹even˺ ‘ugh,’ nor yell at them. Rather, address them respectfully.

What if your parents say you must stop worshiping your Allah will you obey them or your Allah?

Aemmyjah:
Maybe they want to update their church songbook😂

I have said it many times on this forum that most of them are atheists disguising as believers. If he truly believes in God there's no reason why he should ignore the words from the mouth of God's servant.
Now it's obvious that only Jehovah's Witnesses are believers strictly adhering to the teachings of those taking the lead in our midst! Hebrews 13:7
That's why he is always coming after us as if we took his bread!

Kingsnairaland:
So when God said he himself has delivered us from the kingdom of darkness into his sons kingdom. Does that not tell you that all of us where saved by grace not by what we did or by our prayer or availability

Kingsnairaland:
My goodness when did I say people don't need to avail themselves of what God made available
The means of salvation God provided is Jesus

Now are you saying Jesus' death will save a man who has heard about Jesus and what Jesus taught but chose to live as a gay?
Will such a person be saved without accepting what Jesus commanded?

Proudlyngwa:
If you love me obey my commandments.
The commandments
Love your God
Love your neighbour, on it hinges all commandments.
So Jesus was all about love, That is why I said we don't have Christians, what we have is believers, because allmost all so called Christians don't have love

Jesus commanded LOVE and he demonstrated LOVE so it's not just by saying people should love otherwise there's no single religion on this planet that will not tell you they love their god and their neighbours.

The LOVE Jesus commanded is about a specific work that his disciples must do it's this work that no other religion can't engage that's why no member of any other religion can gain the approval of God except only those following what Jesus commissioned. John 3:16

So i ask you again: Do you know any group that's practicing what Jesus commanded today?

DREAMHOMES6970:
Please rational response guys.

Most of our Top fathers in the Christian faith have different beliefs in the faith... As regarding "Christmas celebration" I recently watched an old video of kumuyi (deeper life) strongly expressing his disbelief to Christmas celebration as he said it wasn't biblical while another top father in the faith Adeboye (Rccg) believes well in Christmas celebration.... I believe both men of God serve and always hear from the same God but why the different beliefs ?

The highlighted has answered your question.
Both Men aren't hearing from the same God.
According to Jesus of Nazareth who is called "Christ" his followers will be sanctified or unified by the truth as found in God's word: Bible! John 17:17
That is the only way they can have the same line of thought with Jesus and Jesus' father. John 17:22 compared to 1Corinthians 1:10 and Ephesians 4:3
So between the two men any interested individual should ask "who is on the same page with God's word on the issue?"
Whoever is not speaking in harmony with the scriptures is FAKE! Matthew 15:7-8

God bless you and may you have peace!

MindHacker9009:
The Old Testament we have today has been edited and updated by the Roman empire to make the God of the Old Testament to look like a God that is always angry and a Fake New Testament god that took Joseph's virgin wife to be the gentle good god that created himself as Jesus christ.

So everything whether old or young is FAKE!

MindHacker9009:
How do you know if any of the New Testament books ever started at all and it's all just an invention for the Roman empire.

How do you know if all the books ever started at all and it's all just an invention for the Roman empire.

MindHacker9009:
Mark 16:15,18
15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.
18 "They will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all”

The book of Mark 16 ends at verse 8

Check most versions to be sure of what i just told you!

Aemmyjah:
Im not a follower of Bodie Hodge
Is that Jesus Christ?

If you don't engage him you won't know that he's only following what people say, is this not the same OLAADEGBU who has been crying up and down the forum about Jehovah's Witnesses and our beliefs?
Now Kumuyi his most cherished man of God said Christmas is idolatry but OLAADEGBU just ignored Kumuyi to follow what people want.
So if people around him today say Kumuyi is evil pá pà pá OLAADEGBU will stop following Kumuyi.
Christmas has exposed him!

Kingsnairaland:
So when God said he himself has delivered us from the kingdom of darkness into his sons kingdom. Does that not tell you that all of us where saved by grace not by what we did or by our prayer or availability. It mercy that saved us and that mercy is extended to homosexual people. The mercy and love is what draw all men that claimed they are saved to God
Each day.

Why do you like arguing blindly nah?

OK you said people don't need to avail themselves for the provision God made but you've been pestering me to believe in some form of ideology or i will go to Hellfire.

So are you now saying i don't need to believe in your Jesus again since God has provided the means of salvation for everyone?

Guy it's obvious you just love deceiving yourself, all are sinners {Romans 3:23} deserving of death {Romans 6:23} but those doing the will of God will be saved {Matthew 7:21-23} not everybody that's why many will perish because they refused to avail themselves for the provision God made to save obedient mankind! John 3:16

Kingsnairaland:
So what about where God said we were still in sin and Jesus died for us to deliver us

Is homosexuality not among the sin Jesus died to deliver us from

Have you forgotten Jesus came to help sinners not saints

So Jesus came to help homosexual become free one day.

Sinners are supposed to be killed according to God's word {Romans 6:23} but because God loves us He made a provision to save only the REPENTANT ones not all sinners! John 3:16

Whoever fails to avail himself for the provision deserves no prayer because God will not listen! Jeremiah 11:14

FRANCISTOWN:
"how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him." -Acts 10:38
That was the work your Jesus did.
And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. -Matthew 10:7
That up there was what your Jesus commanded.

You really tried Mr Atheist but you missed one vital point in that quotation!

Jesus never sent his disciples to go performing miracles outside Judea they were to keep the miracles only among the Jews {Matthew 10:6} because according to him it's not for the benefit of people who aren't Israelites! Matthew 15:24

So when he first sent them to go and preach and perform miracles it was only within the Jews but when he commanded them to go and preach and teach that's when he mentioned other nations {Matthew 28:19-20} he never told them to go performing miracles for people outside Judea. However after the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple which is the symbol of God's presence among the Jews all such supernatural gifts ceased! 1Corinthians 13:8-10

Thanks for your time!