oteneaaron: Watch this video uploaded on YouTube about a year ago showing a Jehovah's Witness Elder was screaming insults at another JW for keeping a beard.
This was a year ago, and now that the rules have been changed by their Guardians Of Doctrines (GODS), will that uncouth Elder apologize to the man he insulted just because he had a beard?
Nollywood has finished you!
So this is how far apostates could go to accuse God's people shey? And you think intelligent people will believe this nonsense act uploaded by apostates.
jaephoenix: 99% of scientists believe it. Same way not all doctors believe covid is caused by a virus. There are always idiots in every profession
Good so you agree that some people may be viewed as idiots simply because they refused to share the same line of thought with others shey? That means it's your opinion against theirs!
Aemmyjah: A reminder that a hundred monikers including a female moniker to make you stand as the accuser of the brothers day and night will not add a molecule of peace to your life... Like your father, going to and fro all the threads finding us will not bring you peace which is very evident in what you are doing... Your lies and misleading statements will not do any harm on us. Later, you won't exist and Jehovah will keep leading his people. We have faced bans, opposition, hatred but Jehovah is still empowering us. All you do is wail and gnash your teeth cos of an update with men putting on a beard... We will still carry on our ministry, encourage one another in our meetings all the more so , we have not even started but all credit to Jehovah and his son, Jesus Christ... Call us deceitful, call us cult, call us anything you wish, we don't even seek the praise of men, how much more the words of an apostate... Keep creating more monikers to satisfy your quest for peace that eludes you
tctrills: We both know that he and his organization are dubious characters coming online to deceive but no matter how many times you prove it, they have no shame, they would just deny whatever you accuse them on and keep making noise.
Shame comes only when something you did is out of place and out of place means it has been done in a better way or could have been done in a better way. So my friend present a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that's the only way JWs could be ashamed otherwise you and your cohorts are shameless!
Aemmyjah: The Governing Body can make mistake Moses made a mistake The Apostles did too...
The problem apostates has is the same as that of Satan each one has built a secret altar in his heart where he used to bow to himself daily. So they found it really hard to be submissive to orderliness involving others even though they want to set standards they just don't like to be controlled by whatever is binding on others. Now the problem is no matter how they try they can never ever find any system where intelligent beings would willingly become submissive apart from God's organization so just like Satan they become fugitives running from pillar to post claiming they're wiser when they are not ready to live under the same rule with others.
Sand2022: Disorderly matters refer to matters not considered to be serious sins eg. Too lazy, short skirts, excessive make ups etc.
You're surely reading from older publications if this is what you think about God's people today because the new light has revealed many things that's totally different from all of these. I personally don't feel attracted to any female dressed like a mourner so the makeup, short skirts issue is PERSONAL. Disorderly now means much more than these frivolities we are not to be master over the faith of anyone because each person is standing based on his or her conviction!
nans24: No, that's not what is funny. What is funny is you calling your fellow brother an apostate for speaking honest facts about your organisation. Facts you tried tooth and nail to hide and deny. I don't need to see his face. His write-up shows the kind of person he is.
So what Peter didn't tell you Paul has finally told you shey? At least you now agree that the organization is not as bad as you formally think, that's enough for me!
What is God's will? Which group is teaching their members today?
Sakody: You think you typed something. What you typed is rubbish. Don't twist words here. No one here is stupid. We all understand basic English. To be inspired by the Holy Spirit requires you to be Led by the Holy Spirit. You have to submit to it to be inspired. It is what the Holy Spirit tells you to do that you do. Being led and being inspired is the same thing. You just wasted space in typing nonsense. Your god's in Warwick claimed not to be inspired at all. They are admitting to you that they are not being led by the Holy Spirit. And they proved it to you by having too many changed doctrines and False prophecies. The doctrines you had at the time of your founder are not what you have now. They showed proof that all what they have been feeding you and will continue to feed you are nothing but their imaginations and opinions. If you are being led/inspired by the Holy Spirit, your doctrines will never change. You will never have false prophecies because these changes make God and Jesus look like Liars who don't know what they are doing. As long as your god's have admitted to this, they are also telling you that they enjoy making God a Liar.
nans24: After reading his write up I was impressed. His well written honest answers rekindled the respect I have for JW's. Respect your senseless responses in this forum made me lose.
nans24: I should be asking you. He sure sounds alot more smart and intelligent than you tho. I will prefer him knocking on my door anytime anyday than a pretender like you.
Good! So at least JWs can still preach and teach you it's some like me that's your problem shey? I wonder how the child molestation stories is no longer a problem now?
What is God's will according to the Bible? Which group is unitedly doing God's will today?
Sakody: You think you typed something. What you typed is rubbish. Don't twist words here. No one here is stupid. We all understand basic English. To be inspired by the Holy Spirit requires you to be Led by the Holy Spirit. You have to submit to it to be inspired. It is what the Holy Spirit tells you to do that you do. Being led and being inspired is the same thing. You just wasted space in typing nonsense. Your god's in Warwick claimed not to be inspired at all. They are admitting to you that they are not being led by the Holy Spirit. And they proved it to you by having too many changed doctrines and False prophecies. The doctrines you had at the time of your founder are not what you have now. They showed proof that all what they have been feeding you and will continue to feed you are nothing but their imaginations and opinions. If you are being led/inspired by the Holy Spirit, your doctrines will never change. You will never have false prophecies because these changes make God and Jesus look like Liars who don't know what they are doing. As long as your god's have admitted to this, they are also telling you that they enjoy making God a Liar.
Default mode again! Type something new not stereotype comment if you want to prove you're wise!
Sakody: You think you typed something. What you typed is rubbish. Don't twist words here. No one here is stupid. We all understand basic English. To be inspired by the Holy Spirit requires you to be Led by the Holy Spirit. You have to submit to it to be inspired. It is what the Holy Spirit tells you to do that you do. Being led and being inspired is the same thing. You just wasted space in typing nonsense. Your god's in Warwick claimed not to be inspired at all. They are admitting to you that they are not being led by the Holy Spirit. And they proved it to you by having too many changed doctrines and False prophecies. The doctrines you had at the time of your founder are not what you have now. They showed proof that all what they have been feeding you and will continue to feed you are nothing but their imaginations and opinions. If you are being led/inspired by the Holy Spirit, your doctrines will never change. You will never have false prophecies because these changes make God and Jesus look like Liars who don't know what they are doing. As long as your god's have admitted to this, they are also telling you that they enjoy making God a Liar.
Sakody: To be inspired by the Holy Spirit requires you to be Led by the Holy Spirit. You have to submit to it to be inspired. It is what the Holy Spirit tells you to do that you do. Being led and being inspired is the same thing.
I've forgotten that it's you but that's not a problem i will respond to this!
God's Holy leads Christians through the study of INSPIRED EXPRESSIONS while INSPIRED EXPRESSIONS is imposed on the writer who is fallible.
For instance Jesus chose Peter as spokesman for the apostles but them Peter often commits blunders due to imperfection.
It simply means at a time God's Holy Spirit will inspire him yet when it comes to being led he must rely on the decision of the Body after thoroughly considering the scriptures.
Sand2022: No. They generally don't disfellowship disorderly persons. They only give warning talk about them.
The highlighted is WRONG!
We MUST disfellowship anyone who is walking disorderly before you become one of us you would have learned all the things that leads to disfellowship but when you MISTAKENLY does it we MUST make sure it's not intentional so that you will be WARNED but then if you're not willing to accept the discipline we will show you the door: DISFELLOWSHIP!
dalitigator: Why do Pastors cherry-pick parts of the Bible to apply? Please educate my ignorance. Thanks.
God's word is for all honest hearted and sincere individuals so instead of waiting for someone to go and learn them come to teach you why not avail yourself to study the Bible for yourself so that you can know God's will for yourself?
Sakody: How can someone who admits is not inspired still be led by the Holy Spirit? Is that not a contradiction? Does this make sense to you?
To be INSPIRED totally differs from to be LED!
For instance Jesus had 13 apostles out of which only 4 were INSPIRED to pen down God's word but when it comes to leading each Christian must submit himself to God's Holy Spirit to lead us. How do we know that God's Holy Spirit is the one LEADING us? When imperfect humans began fulfilling God's purpose. Surely the blunders they make is the evidence that they're imperfect humans but the fulfillment of God's purpose is assurance that God's Holy Spirit is working with them! Galatians 5:22-23
The world's most united country is Nigeria it's politicians that are playing their ultimate game with the lives of their subjects. Please travel abroad and see how Nigerians do embrace one another not minding which part you come from but when the politicians wants to play their games they know how to manipulate the masses. Separation won't solve the problem it will only complicate it!
Chamukebenson: i just hate being in this world, My life is like a horror movie.
My friend you're on point! Most servants of God in Bible times feel the same way due to the horrible experience they had in their time. Please read what they said as translated into the common language we speak today: English
“Let the day perish on which I was born, Also the night when someone said: ‘A man has been conceived!’ Job 3:3
"Cursed be the day I was born! May the day my mother gave birth to me not be blessed" Jeremiah 20:14
Do you think these servants of God were happy to be born on this planet?
Well it's obvious they're not. They were sad due to facts written in these Bible verses:
Again I turned my attention to all the acts of oppression that go on under the sun. I saw the tears of the oppressed, and there was no one to comfort them. And their oppressors had the power, and there was no one to comfort them. And I congratulated the dead who had already died rather than the living who were still alive. And better off than both of them is the one who has not yet been born, who has not seen the distressing deeds that are done under the sun. Ecclesiastes 4:1-3
All of this I have seen, and I applied my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, during the time that man has dominated man to his harm. Ecclesiastes 8:9
Due to all these wickedness a faithful servant of God asked God directly:
Your eyes are too pure to look on what is evil, And you cannot tolerate wickedness. Why, then, do you tolerate the treacherous And keep silent when a wicked man swallows up someone more righteous than he is? Habakkuk 1:13
Well all these are the reasons why our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus sent us out to tell honest hearted and sincere individuals who are experiencing all it all that there is a plan to end all badness {Psalms 37:7-11} blessed are those who mourn, since you will be comforted! Matthew 5:4
Please don't give up welcome a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses in your neighbourhood and you will be happy you did.
Sand2022: Jehovah's witnesses should be seen a control group, not a destructive cult. They have a form of control, but it's wrong to see them as destructive cult. They just have a different view of things. No matter how odd, it is still their own worldview.
The highlighted is where most people got things wrong when talking about Jehovah's Witnesses. The organization is not about control of the life of members rather it's about how a disciple could be fully competent and completely equiped as a preacher and teacher of God's word. So as one of Jehovah's Witnesses the control the organization has over me is how seriously i take the disciple making work Jesus assigned to all his disciples. I must be up and doing in this regard and never should i allow anything to take away this privilege from me. Apart from that wiskid, Davido, Olamide, Kizz Daniel, Aṣake songs doesn't make me an unbeliever. I only need to watch out for those around me who may have a totally wrong opinion about me for enjoying secular music.
Sand2022: I dont know your area very well. Here, birthdays are largely a secular occasion. But if I may ask, what do you understand by the phrase, religious occasion?
I know where you're driving at so don't let anyone deceive 99% of what people celebrate today emanates from religious beliefs. Nobody thinks of the day a child was born after the mother delivered safely, they celebrate only the additional member of the family unlike slaves bought with money they believe the deities has blessed them. So it's when the child grows and begin seeing himself as a demigod that he or she feel like celebrating the day he or she came to this place. God's people believe we were born like all other creatures not that we came from somewhere to this planet but people celebrating their birth believe they came from somewhere so they continue celebrating their entry until their exit when they won't be alive to celebrate it again.
As for religious occasions go to any country today you will see people who don't even believe in the Bible celebrating Christmas as if it's just a common secular occasion whereas children singing carols will not forgive those who passed the celebration to them when they finally discovered that most people that join them in the celebration don't even believe Jesus ever walked this planet.
WHY?
Because the date of his birth was never mentioned neither did any servant of God in Israel celebrated birthday.
TheArrowhead: You're an obvious apostate. Change your wways and return to the true God.
Ọmọ i never wanted to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses because of the bag carrying stuff so i began searching for an alternative religion at least that's performing a bit closer to JW's but there is none! So even though you're an apostate to a religion you left the problem with exjws is that they can never ever find a replacement!
Sand2022: Birthdays in most cases don't even have religious meaning in most areas of the world. In most cases, the celebration is purely secular. I agree that most witnesses don't seem to understand this fact.
Birthday celebration is not purely secular!
I'm from a religiously divided family, some are real Traditionalists, some claim Christians and others are Muslims. The Traditionalists in my family are deeply rooted in it so i learned a lot from them. Traditionalists use their birthdays to celebrate themselves so most of them often do something to be commemorated annually when they're no more. The Israelites don't do anything as such when it comes to birthday celebrations they just don't think of it as most servants of God among them were INSPIRED to write bad things about birthdays! Job 3:3; Ecclesiastes 7:1; Jeremiah 20:14
Jesus Christ commanded his friends to remember the date he died not his birthday.
That's the HERITAGE of God's people: JEHOVAH'S PEOPLE! Isaiah 54:17b