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NNTR:
At least you are honest, about not understanding, what the original word for 'church' as used by Jesus is, and not understanding what the meaning of the word is. Good, you understand what good politics is as opposed to bad politics or dirty politics (i.e. the last question)

Oh so it's the word "CHURCH" that you were asking shey?

Well CHURCH means a CONGREGATION and in a congregation it's the spirit they worship that determines the rules not combined opinion unlike politics where different people agree on terms and conditions a church is under the control of the god/deity/spirit they're worshiping.

So don't think politics has anything to do with the worship of the true God otherwise Paul who joined Christianity after the ascension of Christ shouldn't be the one telling Peter what is right or wrong such doesn't happen in POLITICS.

Aemmyjah:
He will say that is not Kumuyi or the video was edited. 😂
OLAADEGBU does not celebrate xmas
He's only counting 12 days of Xmas

Well he said i should ask Kumuyi that's why i brought a life video of his daddy in da lord for him to see.

tctrills:
He says you are an imposter. Do yourself a favor and read up the meaning. He must have gone through our discussion before declaring you an imposter.
But to me, I admire your zeal and tenacity but I think this is a good time for you to reinvent yourself.
Spend quality time studying your Bible. Seek knowledge and understand and then return a better teacher of the gospel.

OK it's what he said about me that's your own take and not what the organization teaches anymore shey?
Ọmọ the guy only lack manner of approach and he wants to be in control so you guys have taken his side instead of asking him questions about his faith the same way you've been doing with other JWs that's all.

NNTR:
The word, church, that Jesus, God Incarnate used, in Matthew 16:18
1. What's the original word He used?
2. What's the meaning of that word?
3. Define politics

I only understood the last question:
POLITICS is the method or ideology employed by a people to run their affairs it is purely combine ideas agreed upon.

But according to God's word man wasn't created to run our own affairs rather we are to rely on the direction from God.

That's why Samuel condemned the decision of Israelites choosing a human King {1Samuel 8:6} so he revealed to them what all human societies are experiencing today from their rulers! 1Samuel 8:10-18

tctrills:
The guy called you an imposter so I don't think he has the same message as an imposter.

Do you remember the things we have discussed in the past?
Oya ask him nah and see if he doesn't believe that the one and only channel God is using to feed His worshipers today is the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses!

NNTR:
The way that people living in groups make decisions. It essentially is about making agreements between people so that they can live together in groups

This is what makes POLITICS the forbidden fruit.

God never created humans to make decisions on how to rule their communities rather God supposed to be the one and only Person who is setting the standard.

So when Satan introduced the tree of knowledge of good and evil he was indirectly telling them to cut God off the scene then they can start making decisions on what is to be termed as GOOD and what is to be termed as EVIL {Genesis 3:5} note what Jesus said about the issue:

"I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me." John 5:30

Satan disagree with this that's why he introduced rebellion to the first human couple and since he knew it will end up becoming a problem for mankind he continued promoting politics until he finally gained control over the entire human race. That's why God's word called Satan the Prince of the world {John 14:30} the god of this world {2Corinthians 4:4} and the evil one under whose control lies the whole world! 1John 5:19

NNTR:
God endorses politics
What do you know about the word ekklesia aka ecclesia and pka church,
If politics is the forbidden fruit, why would Jesus, God Incarnate, (i.e. God in flesh, God in a human body) embrace, endorse and subscribe to the Greek Athenian ekklēsía ideology?
_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Politics leads people to kill people so if a group is solidified by faith politics will turn them against one another.
That's why it's Satan's tool!

OLAADEGBU:
Don't be a coward, why not ask him?

Surely Kumuyi is only talking about his own nuclear family here and not his church.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=569wyON5zDQ?si=T5EFl_jmK3U7wvtf

Chamukebenson:
Nice read, this really lifted my spirit, might give Jehovah witness a try one day

With this the deed has been done!

bolabizzle:
Truth be told I prefer you than that other guy. You make our arguments fun and enjoyable. Those insults are what makes the conversation fun. Plus your natural dullness and ignorance makes the arguments easy.

OK nah!

bolabizzle:
My fellow apostate, haw far naaa?
Your brother may have shunned you but don't worry. I will never shunn you.

Shun on a faceless forum?
You're really funny walahi talahi.
When we meet at kingdom Halls, assemblies or Conventions do you think that will have any impact?

achorladey:
I won't be surprised to see MaxInDHouse say NowYouKnow is an apostate on nairaland using another moniker to disguise as one of Jehovah's Witnesses

He has cleared my doubts with this:

NowYouKnow:
I saw you indicated interest in studying with Jehovah's witnesses. That's good. In your locality there are kingdom halls there.

So enjoy your time with him!

tctrills:
Loooooooool so you see yourself as the bad performing JW, the black sheep, the JW disgrace.
Do you know what happened?
Some of your wise members can see how you keep disgracing yourself and your organization here and they can't have it anymore.
Trust me, anyone that goes through any of my discussions with you would have zero interest in your organization. You keep making your organization look stupid that's why they are benching you. I hope you humble yourself and learn. I wish you luck.

Hen nah!
At least you can now get the same message but from your preferred JW!

NowYouKnow:
You succeeded in getting people baptised from discussion you had with them in this forum?
Really?
You must have set a fine example for them then. That it is good to insult and abuse ex-members, apostates and unbelievers online.
Anything else....

Guy you're just a clown joh!

tctrills:
Are you saying that you are the JW rep on this forum?

Good!
So stop quoting me because i won't stop responding no matter how difficult you prove to be.
Now that you have a BETTER PERFORMING JW on this forum you can continue chatting with him.
May you have PEACE!

NowYouKnow:
Cult like
Pedophile organisation
Child abusers
Brainwashed individuals
Insulting
Abusing
Scripture twisting
etc...

This is the impression your works in this forum have given to people about members of Jehovah's witnesses.

Fine works indeed brother. Anything else you want to add.... I assume you still have more to say since you don't know how to keep shut.

Ọmọ Jesus never won the heart of all the Jews but right hearted individuals love him .
On this forum i have made disciples who got baptized and felt like seeing me to give me a hug but i always direct them to JWs in their neighbourhood telling them that whenever they see a JW that's MaxInDhouse.

So if you're of the opinion that what those guys are saying is because of MaxInDhouse ọmọ you're deceiving yourself big time because whether you behave like angel or not apostates will not be moved by your attitude so be yourself and speak the truth fearlessly.

That's me for you!

tctrills:
Two JW factions. This doesn't sound like agreement

Ọmọ fractions in doctrine or manner of approach?

Guy he has nothing to say against whatever i have told you so far the problem he's having is the idea that a JW must not get annoyed when insulted even when we're not preaching or teaching at that time.
Go and insult your JW boss and expect to keep that job nah!

Dtruthspeaker:
This is definitely madness playing out. Off point! The topic is not whether Jesus was the last Adam and what He ate.

So Adam ATE something and it's S€X shey?

Continue!

NowYouKnow:
It's very easy my friend.
Ask any Jehovahs witnesses you meet or see tomorrow if witnesses are allowed or encouraged to insult and abuse people online or in person. When they give you an answer, you won't be confused to decide if really he is a pretender or one of us.

Why not tell him the truth?
So all members of Jehovah's Witnesses on this planet will not insult you if you insult them face to face shey?
Well let him go and try it instead of just asking!

NowYouKnow:
I agree with you. That is exactly what we are admonished to do in our meetings and publications. Insult and abuse apostates and unbelievers when they deliberately mock and make jest of us.
Do you have more to say? Keep talking...

Ọmọ i have done the needful at least you're a witness to the fine works of faith by Max on this thread!

Dtruthspeaker:
Off point! The topic is not what Jesus ate

Ọmọ Jesus is the last Adam {1Corinthians 15:45} so he ATE something just as Adam also ATE something but both of them ATE different things!

tctrills:
I honestly don't know who or what to believe. How can I tell who is truly JW. MaxinDHouse you have been called out as a fake JW. What's going on here.

What he's telling you indirectly is to stop chatting with me since he couldn't stop me from chatting with you!

tctrills:
Good Jesus Christ is the perfect judge so let's believe him and not you.

Ọmọ if we're to go by what you just typed that word "LAW ABIDING" won't be applicable anywhere because from Jesus' standpoint all humans are imperfect so there is no law abiding citizen anywhere.

But if we're to go by the common knowledge of humans the Pharisees were law abiding citizens among the Jews in the first century!

NowYouKnow:
Of course, as a Christian and a baptised member of one of Jehovah's witnesses that is exactly what we are taught to do.
Enjoy yours too.

Nah your wahala be that.
In the field i'm cautious as serpent and harmless as dove but when i'm not in your house if you try nonsense with me simply because you've always been treating JWs like trash then i will show you that this is not your house.
Christ Jesus preached from house to house without using hurtful words to anyone but when Pharisees (apostate Jews) comes around to talk trash Jesus put them where they rightly belong.
WHY?
Because he didn't go to their house so they have no right to come disturbing him while attending to honest hearted and sincere Jews!

tctrills:
So to the JW, the Jews are God's enemies right?
So the Jews are your enemy.

Anyone who is against God's will is our enemy but some of them are unknowingly attacking God's organization for instance apostle Paul.
Some are actually fighting against the truth such ones are God's enemies that's why Jesus said they will not be forgiven! Matthew 12:31-32

tctrills:
So according to Jesus Christ, the were hypocrites. They only kept the law partly. So do we believe you or believe Jesus Christ.
You claim they were law abiding but Jesus Christ says they were not keeping the weightier laws

Jesus is a PERFECT judge but from the viewpoint of imperfect humans the Pharisees were law abiding citizens in view of the laws in their community!

Dtruthspeaker:
Off point! The topic is not what Jesus ate but what male and female Adam ate.

At least Jesus also ATE something that you can't figure out shey?
It's OK!

NowYouKnow:
Everyone feels that way once in a while. You're not alone. Our striving under the sun ceases the day we die. Untill then we must try to remain strong and put our faith in God even though life makes it difficult to trust and believe in him.
Please by all means possible avoid having any dealings with this guy👉 MaxInDHouse.
A quick view of all his post will let you know that he is not one of Jehovah's witnesses because we do not insult or abuse people online or in person. What his aim is in pretending to be one I cant say for sure. Be extremely careful.
I saw you indicated interest in studying with Jehovah's witnesses. That's good. In your locality there kingdom halls there. Feel free to visit anyone of your choice on Sunday and indicate and interest to study the Bible with anyone you meet there.
Apologies for the mess you read in this thread.
If you have any doubts due to the mess you read in this thread about witnesses, I have a thread that honestly explains some of the issues raised
https://www.nairaland.com/7943125/jehovahs-witnesses-cult-organisation
Have a nice day and keep being strong. Its not easy but be strong. You may not realise but your existence is of great importance to loved ones and people around you.

You're really funny walahi talahi!

So because i choose to express myself in the face of faithless miscreants that means i'm not one of God's people shey?

Then how come my post brought the OP the needed relief? 2Timothy 3:17

At least i have served the purpose God's word foretold about His true servants:

And each one will be like a hiding place from the wind, A place of concealment from the rainstorm, Like streams of water in a waterless land, Like the shadow of a massive crag in a parched land. Isaiah 32:2

Guy whatever your intentions i'm less concerned as long as you typed the highlighted there's no wahala.

Whoever type gibberish about me i will put such ones where they rightly belong!

Enjoy your weekend!

Dtruthspeaker:
See how jw has made you mad?
So politics is something people eat? We don hear!

Go and ask Jesus what he was EATING in the Bible book of John 4:34 and the FRUIT he was talking about at Matthew 7:16

Chamukebenson:
get lost! my life can not be as horrible as you want it to be before i can see it as such. it’s my life. does people you posted are even happy with their lives but i’m not.

I'm sorry for the troubles please don't worry about them we are used to them they often come around to accuse Jehovah's Witnesses due to what disfellowshiped ones are posting on the Internet.

The truth is that most JW children in Western world wants to be free from parental scrutiny over their choice of lifestyles but Jehovah's Witnesses wants to protect their children from bad influence so to gain freedom from parents the children will lie that some people among those imposing the Bible's rules on them are pedophiles such an accusation will give them the upper hand they are craving and their parents will have no options than to let them be.

These children are used to social media so they pass the same information to their mates in other countries and with the help of disfellowshiped members they takes up cases as if it's real and most children are also saying the same thing to gain freedom.

You will notice that such cases are common only in advanced countries where there is provisions for abused children to be taken by the government but here in Africa where only parents care for their own children you won't hear of such stories. That's why i keep asking them to present just one of such case here in our community after all Jehovah's Witnesses are also in Nigeria that will make sense before you can start accusing Jehovah's Witnesses in your neighbourhood!

tctrills:
Also, if you read you bible, you would learn that the Pharisees were actually not good at keeping the law. According to Jesus Christ, they were hypocrites. By definition, a hypocrite is someone who pretends to do something only for others to see. So again you are still wrong, the Pharisees only pretended to abide by the law.
Matthew 23:23-31
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
The Pharisees omitted the weightier matters of the law.

According to God's word they were sticking to the law though diplomatically dodging what is heavy but they were doing better than others who have ignored the law completely that's why John the baptist told the Jews to repent and return to the laws!

tctrills:
The verse says[b] the Jews[/b] religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers. The Jews are children of God when did they become the enemies 9f JW

Jews were the descendants of Judah and Benjamin but they conspired to get Jesus killed and afterwards they continued attacking us for preaching about Christ Jesus.
Do you understand now?