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MaobiCarl:
The destruction of jericho women and innocent children killed , the genocides of King David, the bloodbath of 189,000 assyrian soldiers.. The accounts of blood sheds by biblical ancient Jews are countless.. If wars and killing your brothers was bad why wasn't God smart enough to use another way in ancient times.
Wars are not good but when fought well they bring lasting peace. Jesus didn't even instruct his followers not to go to war. Jws made that up, okay? . Wars are last options which sometimes yield peaceful results.

Please quote a verse where God approved of war when the two opposing sides are worshipers of God.
Now imagine two opposing sides going to war on whose side will the true God be?
For instance in Russia supposed men of God were praying for victory and the same goes on in Ukraine, my question: on who's side is God?

Aemmyjah:
Jehovah's Witnesses are actively preaching in almost every country. The only group that has never participated in wars or conflicts
The only group so loyal to the christ and they are neutral. Their magazines which is free is the most distributed and translated
Their website, jw.org is the most visited religious website and has the most translations, Google does not come close
Yet, someone is stumbling cos of what? Wearing beard
I reserve my comments

It reminds me of what happened in the first century, most congregations were looking forward to Jewish Christians as those who knows best so in every congregation the Jews keep insisting that if you're not circumcised the privilege of service or oversight can't be given to you, and many disciples who walked with Jesus were also of this opinion.
WHY?
Christ was circumcised, the twelve apostles were circumcised, the first set of thousands who embraced Christianity at Pentecost were circumcised and all prostyles who converted to Judaism before becoming Christians were circumcised so who will say it's not compulsory?

The matter almost divided the organization of God's people in the first century so they sent Paul and Barnabas to Jerusalem for what should be done.

After much deliberations on scriptures, Jesus' teachings and begging Jehovah for guidance through the Holy Spirit they came to an agreement that circumcision is optional.

This was how the matter came to an end and all members of the organization continued as one big family again whether circumcised or not! Act 15:1-31

So if anyone is surprised at the way modern day worshipers of Jehovah handle matters today it's their cup of coffee i fully understood what is happening!

Aemmyjah:
Pls keep creating more monikers
The more you create, the more peace evades you

He can't hide his bitterness one bit before two to three comments it will be enflamed in him!

tctrills:
It's not good use of common sense.
Again, God does not want us to guess his commandments.
Now let me show you why you are not using your common sense.
God is love. God loved all.
Yet he sanctioned a war in heaven. If love means no war, the war in heaven wouldn't have happened.
Again God loved the children of Benjamin yet he sanctioned a war against them. So you see, these are 2 examples of wars despite love.
A third example, God loved the world yet he commanded the children of Israel at different times to fight and even destroy nations.
What do you learn
1.. A commandment to love is not the same thing as commanding us to stop wars.
2. God is not against the use of war.
3. God sanctioned wars on people he even loved.
4. You can't teach God or create new commandments for him. If he wanted us to end wars, he would say so.
5. And finally, As promised in the books of Isaiah 2 and Micah 4, one day, all wars would end.

So God loves that's why He ordered His worshipers who are supposed to be His children to fight and kill one another?

Ọmọ your stubbornness can't help you!

Yampotatocarrot:
If they practice the best form of Christianity, does that mean you left the best for something not good enough? As in, you left something that is original for something that is fake?... Except you left JW and stopped being a Christian altogether, if not, I wonder the kind of mentality you have to have left THE BEST

He is really sincere and honest hearted others will start telling you bad things about JWs but ask them to present a better performing group they later joined after leaving ọmọ they will start fighting you as if you've cursed them.

The fact remains that no human has ever passed through the potters of JW organization that can speak of any better group they found after leaving because there's none!

tctrills:
Good, you still have no verse in the bible where God put an end to wars as you claim right? If God wanted his people to stop fighting wars he would have said it. He wouldn't need me or any organization to say it for him don't you think. He wouldn't need you to use a scripture that prophecies about a future time as your weak evidence for an end to war.
I hope you understand it now.

It's COMMON SENSE my friend:

YOU MUST LOVE
~neighbour as yourself! Mark 12:31
~and pray for enemies! Luke 6:27-28
~fellow believers as Jesus loves! John 13:34-35

So on what ground am i picking up weapons to go for WAR?

uniquetechng:
You sound more knowledgeable than JW themselves because this particular message was broadcast on JW.org channel and even had to call my wife's younger sister who is a member of JW to tune in.

The highlighted really amuses me because all the things i know today about the Bible i learned from JWs!

BrighterSyde:
So it was a man-made rule that beards were immodest and now another man-made rule from the GB has decided it is modest. Ok.

Anyhow you want it to be expressed!

jaephoenix:
Doesn't matter. What this new rule tells me is that you guys bend rules according to your whims and caprices. Soon child mol@station would be legalized by u guys

OK Sir, thanks!

todugo:
Wrong, JW members where seeing it as an identity to distinguish themselves from non JW. It all start from J.F Rutherford who did not like beards. That's why you can never see in JW book pictures their members putting on beards.never!!
In their Watchtower, newcomers where pictured and depicted as having beards but when they convert, they shave it off.

Why do you think non of Governing Body are having beards in any of their picture and Video broad cast.

The only reason they are now saying to their member not to criticize any member is because, it been a debate for years which had no scriptural backing to stop any Christains from putting on beards.

OK Sir, thanks!

BrighterSyde:
In other words the rules of the Arab world where it is safer for a man to wear beards supersede your god-given rule that it is a sin to wear beards? Why you would want to accept sin in Arab world and break an instruction from above just so your brothers can live in peace?

It's not written anywhere in God's word rather it's about modesty so now that beard no longer shows immodesty God's organization doesn't make any strict rules over it.

YourKarma:
I like your write-up but why must Khalid be from Iran? Why can't Khalid be from USA or Japan or even Nigeria?
Justice for Khalid!

I'm a Nigerian nah!

tctrills:
Did God not love the tribe of Benjamin when he sanctions the war?

Unrepentant evildoers will be destroyed that's God's will so He ordered Israel to kill lawless men in Benjamin just as His laws stipulates.

tctrills:
The war in heaven for example, do you think there was no love in heaven?

Demons are no longer under God's guidance so they must be ousted from heaven.
It's not a war between loyal angels but Jesus and his angels against Satan and demons! Revelations 12:7-9

The funny thing here is that the first president of Watchtower goes about with beard all his life so it was never a rule from the beginning but modest gentleman's ideology.
And now that it's no longer a norm in offices and public appearances as modest true Christians have no need taking it seriously again!

tctrills:
So God supports war you just proved it now point to the verse where God ban war.
Again, was God in support of WW2?
Does God support the Russian invasion of Ukraine?
At least now we know that God is not against war in principle.
Exodus 15:3
3 The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name.

Ọmọ i've told you that the God who promised to end WARS {Psalms 46:9} wasn't interested in people killing people He permitted it due in the protection of pure worship which He established in Jerusalem but never has He supported two opposite sides claiming to be His worshipers to start killing one another.
So after His Son walked the earth {Hebrews 1:1-2} whoever wants to be a worshiper of the true God must obey these three rules of LOVE:

Love mankind in general! Mark 12:31

Love fellow believers! John 13:34-35

Love those posing as enemies! Luke 6:27-28

Whoever fulfils this can't go to war anymore!

Sakody:
Why did one of your JW Member decide to rub you in the mud again? Once again, another member of yours just insulted the living lights out of you in this thread by saying you are not a JW. This is the 3rd time another JW is denying you in public! Haba Mad MaxinDhouse! This thing has reached for you to be delivered. Tell the truth, are you really a JW? Be honest. Don't be ashamed. Come clean!

Default mode!

Continue disguising with new accounts!

oteneaaron:
Continue spreading your lies.
Till date you still haven't shown proof that Courz and Oteneaaron are the same person.
Why did you run away from the other thread?
The heat was getting too much from a fellow JW right?
SHAME!
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A thousand accounts from you can't stop me from commenting on Nairaland so your new account pretending to be a JW has failed!

Sakody:
Why did one of your JW Member decide to rub you in the mud again? Once again, another member of yours just insulted the living lights out of you in another thread by saying you are not a JW. This is the 3rd time another JW is denying you in public! Haba Mad MaxinDhouse! This thing has reached for you to be delivered. Tell the truth, are you really a JW? Be honest. Don't be ashamed. Come clean!

You're pretending to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses with another account just to come against your only enemy on Nairaland shey?

Am i the only JW on this forum that's arguing with you guys?
NO!
So your pretence can't work with me if you're not the same person just as you've been pretending with the first two accounts why not go and ask him questions bothering you on JWs?
No matter what you do i will always be here on Nairaland to address whoever wants to learn!

tctrills:
So where did God command the war please?

You won't read your Bible yet you will come arguing blindly!

And Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron, stood before it in those days,) saying, Shall I yet again go out to battle against the children of Benjamin my brother, or shall I cease? And the LORD said, Go up; for to morrow I will deliver them into thine hand. Judges 20:28

This is KJV read and see where God gave the Israelites the permission to war against Benjamin!

Sakody:
Why did one of your JW Member decide to rub you in the mud again? Once again, another member of yours just insulted the living lights out of you in another thread by saying you are not a JW. This is the 3rd time another JW is denying you in public! Haba Mad MaxinDhouse! This thing has reached for you to be delivered. Tell the truth, are you really a JW? Be honest. Don't be ashamed. Come clean!

He wants to address your case go and chat with him nah!

Aemmyjah i have caught him red handed it's now oteneaaron, Courz and Sakody.
Three accounts to be shunned!

NowYouKnow:
Oh so now I am the apostate because I choose to explain with facts rather than spit insult all over the place...right?
Please do me a favour and get out of this thread.

Guy keep shut!
If you don't want others to express themselves why quoting me in the first place?
I'm not interested in your hopeless thread if you never quoted me i have no business with judgemental people like you.
So keep your thread and never ever quote me again in your miserable life.
Bye!

Sakody:
Mad MaxinDhouse, What Angels are speeding the demise of Watchtower? Is it Fallen ones? The same ones your Rutherford admitted that give them messages and false prophecies from beyond? It must be those. Because the Almighty God I know does wonders more than this. Speeding up what? Speeding up to bring JW Children in that will eventually leave the Cult afterwards leaving your Cult to die a slow Death? That must be the speeding up they are doing then. Speeding up the demise of Watchtower with selling of Kingdom halls .
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Look at the pic below. This is what speeding up looks like.

Courz!

Aemmyjah:
MaxInDHouse
That Curse as his name sounds don open a new moniker to fuel his torment

Before three consecutive posts his identity will be revealed nah!

NowYouKnow:
Leave this thread. Troll.
What do you gain pretending to be a witness. Even if they are rude and insultive is that a reason for you to throw away discernment and join them in their quest to insult and abuse? So as old as you are you don't know when to end a conversation once things go south? If really you are an elder you should be deeply ashamed of yourself. Nonesense!

You're just being judgemental it's obvious you're an apostate pretending here.

Sakody:
What Angels? Fallen ones abi? The same ones your Rutherford admitted that give them messages and false prophecies from beyond? It must be those. Because the Almighty God I know does wonders more than this. Speeding up what? Speeding up to bring JW Children in that will eventually leave the Cult afterwards leaving your Cult to die a slow Death? That must be the speeding up they are doing then. Speeding up the demise of Watchtower with selling of Kingdom halls .
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Look at the pic below. This is what speeding up looks like.

Please how many of these ones are preaching zealously and industriously teaching in their neighbourhood as Christ commanded his own disciples? Matthew 28:19-20

Note that it's those doing the work Jesus know not the numbers of people who aren't doing the work he assigned to his disciples! Matthew 7:21-23

tctrills:
It was a decision of the children of Israel. .

I know you're just arguing blindly if i don't tell you where the story is in the Bible you can't get anything tangible to say on the matter.

Now here is God's law regarding rape:

“If, however, the man happened to meet the engaged girl in the field and the man overpowered her and lay down with her, the man who lay down with her is to die by himself" Deuteronomy 22:25

The lady raped by Benjaminites was married to another Israelite read the whole story and how they asked God for permission in the Bible book of Judges 20

NowYouKnow:
You cannot and can never be one of Jehovah's witnesses. Go back to the troll cave you crawled out from and stop derailing my thread with your venomous vitriol. You are an elder and you go about arguing and Insulting people in a faceless forum to do what? Bring praise and honour to your organisation right? Nonesense. Get out of this thread!

You will see why many of us can't remain silent but then calm down bro you're not the judge.

Meanwhile enjoy your time with them!

NowYouKnow:
Jehovah's Witnesses abstain from celebrating birthdays due to our interpretation of certain biblical principles. While the Bible does mention birthday celebrations, it is in a context that Jehovah's Witnesses believe associates them with practices that go against our religious beliefs.
For example, in the Bible, both instances of birthday celebrations involve negative outcomes: Pharaoh's birthday celebration (Genesis 40:20-22) and King Herod's birthday party, where John the Baptist was beheaded (Matthew 14:6-10). Jehovah's Witnesses take these instances as indications that birthday celebrations are not aligned with our understanding of biblical principles.
Additionally, we strive to avoid any customs or traditions that have pagan or non-Christian origins. Since the historical roots of birthday celebrations can be traced back to various pagan practices, we Jehovah's Witnesses choose not to partake in them as a matter of religious conviction.

In addition to the above God's servants never said anything good about the remembrance of birth:
“Let the day perish on which I was born, Also the night when someone said: ‘A man has been conceived!’ Job 3:3

A good name is better than good oil, and the day of death is better than the day of birth. Ecclesiastes 7:1

"Cursed be the day I was born! May the day my mother gave birth to me not be blessed" Jeremiah 20:14

Now in harmony with the above the world's most wonderful counselor of all time Jesus Christ {Isaiah 9:6} told his listeners that it's the same line of thought he shared with those prophets:

“Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill." Matthew 5:17

He promised his disciples that the spirit of God will remind them necessary details of what he taught them and things they needed to pen down for future purpose:

"But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you" John 14:26

Did God's Holy Spirit did as Jesus promised?
YES! The apostles and other gospel writers remembered everything Jesus taught them so vividly including how he was born but in all of this the date of Jesus' birth was not remembered!

Jesus told his disciples to remember the date he was executed {Luke 22:19} which is in perfect harmony with what Ecclesiastes 7:1 said centuries before Jesus' birth.

He never celebrated his birthday, his parents never did, his beloved apostles never did and after his ascension to heaven they never marked Jesus' birthday!

NowYouKnow:
Whether these individuals are really members of my organisation is a question I can't answer.

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses so if you're here to answer questions prepare to deactivate this account in less than five days or avoid many comments or begin answering each the way they present themselves.
I have opened and deactivated my account two times before i decided to keep this and only respond to anyone asking questions but one thing is certain: you can't tell anyone to keep quiet when his beliefs are being spoken against and in most cases lied against.
Each person will render an account before the true God and as far as this forum is concerned those attacking God's organization don't really want your response they just want to accuse the organization and convince the audience that they're saying the truth if you're quiet.

I am an elder in my own congregation so don't think i just love entertaining arguments all i do is respond to whoever truly needs it.

Once again you're welcome!

Aemmyjah:
Yes
We just kept clapping
Apostates are in pains
Their tongue needs that one drop of water.

The angels are working and speeding it up.

Glory be to Jehovah in the highest!