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tctrills:
My kid's disobedience is it what he knows or what he doesn't know.
God commanded, and they disobeyed just as my 3 years old kid disobeyed. Yet would you say my kid has the knowledge of good and bad?
I shouldn't be teaching you everything.

You're stupid walahi talahi!

You commanded your child not to do what is BAD and you're still claiming he doesn't know what is BAD.

Are you OK?

tctrills:
There father punished them for disobedience just as I punish my 3 years old kid for disobedience.

Good!
Disobedience to what they know or what they don't know?

tctrills:
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Again don't confuse yourself. They had no knowledge of good and evil does not mean the author is an idiot.In fact, explain how it makes the author an idiot.

Who punished them?
For what reason were they punished?

tctrills:
I would be happy to address any question I forgot to address.

Aemmyjah:
God killed people to show he loved them. Yes or No?

tctrills:
There would be times that I wouldn't have all answer and I would honestly tell you that I don't have the answers.

This is what made me quote you!
If you don't have answers keep shut!

tctrills:
You really think the writer of Genesis was an idiot bah?

You're making the author an idiot because the major reason why He inspired the writer is to warn others about the CONSEQUENCES of DISOBEDIENCE:

Now these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for a warning to us upon whom the ends of the systems of things have come. 1Corinthians 10:11

So if you're saying they don't know what they did is BAD that means you're indirectly calling the author an idiot!

budaatum:
All this na story. Fact is, not many nations go stoning people anymore, and JWs did not become Israelites before adopting this same God who once said stone people, and who's child said, forgive.

Leave JWs and tell me the nation where people don't bow down to images as commanded in that law! Exodus 20,:3-5

tctrills:
Oga we both know that no verse of scripture is on your side.
This is a doctrine made up by deceitful men with the intention to change the word of God. But if you were wise, you should have asked the idiots that taught you this nonsense to show you the relevant scriptural passages.

You should have known that you're an idiot to say adults warned not to do something did it anyway yet they don't know that what they did is BAD!

tctrills:
First, you are a kid to think this is a popularity contest. Second I am not alone, I am with the writer of Genesis and that's enough for me.

OK you're with the writer just that you can't answer questions from people who thinks the writer's statement is not literal shey?

tctrills:
So? I remember shedding tears when someone I loved was traveling out of the country. Just because men are scared of death doesn't make it evil

Oh you're so dumb!

Jesus cried along with others because his friend DIED.
Was Jesus bitter or happy?
Will God also be bitter or happy when His friends die?

OLAADEGBU:
If you were smart you would have read what the OP had to say instead of putting words into its mouth. Adherents of the RCC are better off when comparing them with your evil cult. The RCC believes most of essential doctrines they only err with their extra biblical doctrines and this doesn't make them a cult like yours.

Guy leave story for the gods!

Are Roman Catholic Church members saved?
https://www.nairaland.com/7937824/peter-rock-which-church-built
YES or NO.

budaatum:
Are you claiming the law is no more for the Israelites neither, since they don't stone anyone anymore?

After the arrival of the prophet God promised in the Bible book of Deuteronomy 18:18-19
The covenant through which Israelites received those laws became obsolete.

This is what God told them in that verse:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him." Deuteronomy 18:18-19

John the baptist was the last prophet having to do with that covenant and it's laws so when he introduced Jesus to them it was evident that the Jews have to accept the New covenant and leave the old behind. Meanwhile 10 tribes out of the 12 that received that former covenant with it's laws has turn their backs on those laws and they don't have anything to do with it again that's why Jesus told the Samaritan woman that only the Jews who are still sticking to the covenant will be counted worthy to receive the New covenant {John 4:10-22} and that according to the incoming covenant things will change! John 4:23-24

Though the Jews refused to listen to Jesus thinking God is still behind them while keeping the old covenant that's why God condemned that nation and in the year 67 c.e the Romans came and destroyed both the city, temple and all those keeping the old covenant!

tctrills:
Which bible verse says it's figurative and not literal. All you needed to do is to point to your source in the bible.
You would have saved us 3 days of arguing if only you pointed to your source. Or is this guesswork again
Was the death of Jesus Christ also figurative?

I don't have to do that i just want you to know that you're alone in that stupidity claiming Adam and Eve doesn't know what is BAD yet they were CURSED for doing what is BAD!

tctrills:
You are correct, it's guesswork because the bible never stated why he cried. So the idea that it was because death is evil is your opinion. I just presented you with other equally valid opinions but all are guesswork. So please let's go back to sticking to facts.

Facts revealed that when people die those shedding tears knows the dead and it's a sign of BITTERNESS.
Do you want to deny that?

tctrills:
If the wicked repent, then their torment is no longer eternal
Rev 14.11
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

This doesn't answer the question.

Where did God said He can't forgive Satan?

tctrills:
The JW believe that God lied when he taught 5hat Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil.

We said it's figurative not literal just as that man also said!

tctrills:
Why did Jesus Christ cry at the death of his friend? We don't honestly know.
But I can suggest

The highlighted is GUESSWORK!
So quote the Bible because all of us know that tears from people during such event means bitterness of the heart.
Please no GUESSWORK!

Shut up!

Dtruthspeaker:
So mad jw, the only territory God owns and controls is Israel, eh?

budaatum:
God does not require stoning for any crimes anymore.

So those laws weren't meant for other nations because those adhering to it must stone an idolater to death whatever changes that means it's no longer the same laws!

Just shut up!

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the mad jw devil who got corrected by a blasphemous lunatic

OLAADEGBU:
Roman Catholics are not cults they just believe some additional doctrines that are similar to those of cults. The RCC are better off than your evil cult.

Idiot!

So with all what you've been typing on this forum against Roman Catholic Church are you saying members of the church are saved!

You insane, shut up!

Dtruthspeaker:
A madman had to remind you Isaiah 49:6 what a disgrace and even an atumite had to remind you that God's Laws operate all over the earth

budaatum:
What rubbish, considering most of those commandments are laws in many countries that don't even read the book meant for the descendants of Jacob.

Lady i don't like chatting with idiots like you but on this topic i will oblige.

Similarities between the Mosaic laws and that of the nations doesn't mean God gave it to other nations otherwise people are supposed to be stoned to death in most nations for worshiping with the use of images! Exodus 20:2-6
So it wasn't meant for any other nation except Israel!

MindHacker9009:
Then read:
Isaiah 49:6
“It is too small a thing for you to be my servant
to restore the tribes of Jacob
and bring back those of Israel I have kept.
I will also make you a light for the Gentiles,
that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.”

Of course but God promised that the covenant will CHANGE! Jeremiah 31:31-33
So the law covenant with Israel differs from the covenant God had with the gentiles!

tctrills:
To God, death is not special.
Everyone gets to die.
It's just a separation of the body and the spirit.
The body is buried and the spirit goes back to him.

OLÓDO!

So from God's standpoint DEATH is not evil shey?
That's why you've always been arguing senselessly in your thread about knowing God and Jesus.
If Jesus is the image of the living God {Colossians 1:15} saying whoever has seen him has seen the father {John 14:9} and he cried bitterly due to the DEATH of his friend {John 11:35} despite having the power to raise him don't you know what that means?
Well it simply means God is sad when people die, yet you're saying it wasn't something evil that led Jesus to shed tears right?
Ọmọ humble yourself and learn!

tctrills:
My 3 years old child has his assignment too. I instruct him all the time but like Adam he doesn't know wrong or right. Also, he is in school.

TenQ:
Knowledge of good and evil is a figurative expression to indicate independence from God with respect to their choices meaning that they henceforth will be the sole determinant of their good and evil thus becoming like God.
Unfortunately, man's definition of what is good and what is evil is most times at variance from God's own standard of good and evil.
Adam wasn't dumb o!
Note that he gave every animal its name!

This man must be suffering from JW syndrome because according to tctrills he's saying God lied!

tctrills:
He did. By saying Satan's punishment is eternal, it means it would last forever. Meaning he will not be forgiven. This is basic English nah.

Matthew 25:41
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels

There you go, it says the lake of Fire was PREPARED for evildoers so what if the evildoers repented will they still go there?
That's the question after all Satan has not been thrown there so he still have the chance to REPENT nah!

God never gave you rather it was meant for the descendants of Jacob occupying the land of Canaan where God promised them so the commandments was to serve as the constitution for that nation no other nation was expected to live by it except if anyone from other nations choose to nationalize himself or herself in Israel!

Aemmyjah:
Apt!
MaxInDHouse can catch a fly with a fishhook!
He's seen he's not making sense to himself

If it's about forgiveness God never said in that Bible book that Satan can't be forgiven nah.
Perhaps if Satan should repent and become a born again Christian later.

tctrills:
Foolish question we are not talking about Satan. But even at that, Let me show you the verse you requested for.
Matthew 25:41
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels

And before you start argument, simple English here, Eternal fire means his punishment has no end. Hence he would not be forgiven.

Now it's your turn, show me the one verse where it states that Adam's punishment is eternal.

Oga, I am here for you and your friends. No matter how many you are, I would address your concerns ok.

I am enjoying the way both of you are working hard though.

Where is the verse that says God can't forgive Satan nah?

I asked you for where God said Satan can't be forgiven you're quoting Jesus who is talking about the curse Satan got in the beginning, was Adam not also cursed?

tctrills:
How is my 3 years old son similar to Adam? They both did not have the knowledge of Good and evil. Do you have any bible passage to prove otherwise?

Your three years old is a baby without any instruction on what he is going to do until you send him to school before he could discover himself but Adam already had an assignment which he will do throughout his lifetime.
So they're not the same one has been instructed on what he should do and what he shouldn't do while the other needs to grow into an adult before he can discover himself!

tctrills:
That's why I told you that I punished my baby even though he has no knowledge of Good and evil.
Doesn't that answer your question?
I have already answered your guy please pay attention.

So your three years old is the same as Adam and Eve?
Perhaps your three years old baby is the same as Satan and rebellious angels.

tctrills:
Lol. Just one question.
Point to one verse where God said he can't forgive Adam and Eve because they are perfect as you say. If you can point to such a verse then you are correct but if you can't you are wrong.

Funny question!
Point to one verse where God said he can't forgive Satan and the fallen angels.