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IAmHim1:
so u need rules that binds you to other fellow worshippers before u create the god u pray to??
rules dont bind you to other worshippers before you can pray to God. waking up in the morning thanking God for life doesnt need rules that binds you to other worshippers. youve placed a barrier in your access to God through your pastors and their teachings
theres deeper life, rccg, mfm, embassy, faith tabernacle, jehova witness...but of course jehova witness is the one true religion and every other religion will perish.
the religionss is the problem. dont you get it alrready

Where did you get the idea about a person in the sky called "GOD" if not through religion?
How do you inculcate the same idea in your child if not through religion?

I'm not disputing that there are no false religions but that you will rule out religion and still keep God doesn't make any sense. The only way you can help your child to know that there is someone listening to things you're saying in your apartment is religion.
Imagine you pray with your children in your house and they came out going throughout the days, weeks and years without seeing people assemble to worship the person you've been talking to how do you think they will view such a person? Do you think they will see your God as a real person?

So it's the assembly of worshipers that helps us to keep GOD alive in our hearts absence of such gatherings will kill the idea completely that's tantamount to Atheism!

You can never find any country where your ten commandments is in operation because that's not the laws God wants to give people of all sorts it was meant to keep the Israelites together until the Messiah comes and after the Messiah those laws become obsolete, that is why the Israelites can't keep it anymore after Jesus of Nazareth.

But you can prove me wrong by presenting any society where those ten commandments are in full operation today!

IAmHim1:
just one final question before we wrap things up MaxinDHouse, those aborted children and children that havent reached the age to reason foe themselves (age 1- age 5) when
they die, where do they go to since theyre not jehova witness or have developed the mental capacity to understand the messages of jehova witnesses?

Oblivion! They will return to non-existence.
Do you worry about people you don't know? NO!
The reason why you feel attached to someone is the moment you've spent together the memories keeps such a person in your mind.
So babies who haven't developed friendship with God are nobody to Him except babies born to God's friends since He will not like His friends to be sad He will bring back their beloved babies to them during resurrection.
Remember all are from the dust so destroyed people and their UNWANTED babies will return to dust!

IAmHim1:
to God. the God you serve in truth and in spirit not the one you think youll find in churches and mosques or the one you think youll find in any religion whatsoever not the one you think youll find after kneeling in front of a statue to genuflect and pray for 'forgiveness of sins' or the one you find in churches where the pastor prays and blesses you according to the amount in your tithe and offering not the one you think youll find in church where your pastor condems stealing and corruption but reserves the front seat in his church for politicians in their numbers not the one you think youll find in church where the pastor is afraid to preach about female retaining their virginity for fear of losing female members in his church i pray To God almighty my creator, silently and peacefully where no one can hear me except HIM. i pray To God my creator not to buildings and mere mortals in fancy suits and ties

Do you know the meaning of that title "GOD"?

Well it simply means "SUPREME BEING" so in the absence of an assembly of worshipers who are obedient to the one who is supreme there is no God for you except yourself.

The essence of a GOD is to make worshipers relate peacefully with one another through their adherence to the standard set by that GOD so if there is no rules that's binding you together with fellow worshipers then there is no God whatsoever you're only praying to yourself.

To illustrate imagine a child whose father kept in a gigantic mansion filled with all the things he needs and wants do you think he will feel any need? But what if there are many other children belonging to the same father will he need to ask his daddy for something before picking it? Note that whatever is in the mansion belongs to all the children so each child needs to ask the father before permission to take something in order not to take what the father preserved for another child.
That's the essence of prayer you can't say you're praying to God when you don't view others around you as children of that same God. No wonder Jesus taught his disciples to pray "OUR father.........let your name be sanctified" {Matthew 6:9} God is the father of all so you need to consider others while asking for something from Him and who are the others if not your fellow worshipers of this so called GOD?

cornelboy:
Lol 😂😂
With your unreasonable arguement?
I like the version of your pride o 😂

He doesn't see it as pride even when there's no group of people with whom he is obeying some rules he has set his own personal rules and that's what he wants to base his judgement on therefore he's confused as to who is a sinner and who is not, to him since he is trying not to do what he view as bad he is not a sinner therefore he needs no set of rules binding on others as co-believers

tctrills:
God will only judge you for your sins. If Adam is responsible for your sins then you have nothing to worry about, keep commiting

Ọ̀DẸ̀ you don't know the indepth meaning of sin walahi talahi.
When Jesus promised the thief Paradise you think it's simply because he repented shey?

For your information the errors committed by imperfect humans doesn't count before God because the situation we found ourselves is so choked that it's almost impossible not to sin that's why we have the undeserved kindness (grace) for forgiveness of our blunders.
Before you can genuinely repent you need to know why that deed is not beneficial to you and others around you failure to know this means you're still ignorant of your sin so it's impossible for you to stop commiting that same sin. But in the case of Adam and Eve they both knew God as their maker and often speak with Him one on one so there's no reason for them to doubt the one who gave them everything at their disposal unlike you who is told not to steal yet you're in need of that thing. That's the reason behind the grace we have otherwise all Adam's descendants are as good as dead from God's standpoint whether you commit or not! Luke 9:60 compare to Revelations 20:5

tctrills:
Oga I will be judged for my sins not Adams sins. Adam would not be judge for my sins.

You don't know the meaning of the judgement mentioned in the Bible, Satan, Adam and Eve have been judged already so when talking about people who has hope those three are no longer part of the hopeful ones.
As for Adam and Eve they're never coming back to life again after their death Satan is still alive presently because he wasn't created with flesh that can expire so God will destroy him.
I know you will say that's GUESSWORK but if you care to know where we got that check the list of names in the Bible book of Hebrews 11:4-34 there the first name recorded as one of those making God proud is Abel meaning Adam, Eve and Cain are gone forever never to be remembered during resurrection!

tctrills:
I am responsible for sins. I don't go about blaming others for my sinsll

That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned—. Romans 5:12

Perhaps you think it's the blunders people are commiting now that's the problem!

tctrills:
Keep teaching the false doctrines of men.

Please which is the doctrine of men?

*Only Jesus can save.
*Only adherents of Jesus' teachings are smart.
*God will not destroy smart people but fools.
*Whoever feels smart without Jesus is a liar.

You be real mumu!

Aemmyjah:
Who brought us into such sinful condition? Adam or God?

He doesn't understand anything and he doesn't want to learn, it's better to ignore him so that he can continue chatting with his friends who are all uncertain of their salvation!

Aemmyjah:
Tctrills says that God cursed Adam and Eve and pronounced death to show he loves them
Ask him to reciprocate such love to his son na

He is not bothered about what anyone says as long as they're not insisting he obey the same rules with them. So anybody is OK no matter their religion except JWs because we insist that once you're not obedient to our line of thought you can't be a worshiper of our God.

Janosky:
Where do ECLECTICS draw their own beliefs system?
Man made sources of Egypt - Hermes Trismegistus.
WOKE IBERIBEISM.

Cc: MaxInDHouse.

I have silenced him with his gra gra!

I told him i know how to deal with fools of his kind because i won't give him a breathing space where he can flow, i will choke him with intelligent reasoning that he won't have the courage to reply me again.

He thought everyone is like those fools he is pushing around into fruitless arguments over their religious beliefs while he is making them a laughing stock secretly!

tctrills:
God would not judge us according to our smartness but rather according to our obedience.

Ọmọ you ou be real mumu!

So who is smart if not obedient to the world's most wonderful counselor?

God sent Jesus so that foolish people may become wise through the wise counsel how can anyone be smart while not being obedient to God's chosen teacher?

cornelboy:
Can he find salvation in his church 🤣🤣🤣

The stupid man always point accusing fingers at other religions claiming Christians as if they must all come to Deeperlife but then he still say salvation is personal so if people in different religions could be saved as Christians with or without their churches what exactly has this fool been complaining about?

tctrills:
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Guy you don't believe in Jesus!

This is what it means to believe in Jesus:

He is the most wonderful counselor of all time. Isaiah 9:6

He is the only begotten Son of God. John 3:16
Oga Jesus Christ never said Christian are the smartest people. You can stop your guesswork already

He is the best teacher God approved. Matthew 17:5

So answer the question:
With the above what do you think about the students trained by this person?

Ọmọ if you're still in doubt about his disciples being the smartest on planet earth then you don't really believe those three points!
Jesus Christ did not come to teach us to be smart. He taught us how to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Jesus Christ does not care how smart or intelligent you are, he only cares about how Obidient you are.
There are Muslims that are many times smarter than you and I.
But trust me bro the race isn't for the smart.
So stop misfiring and enough with your guesswork.
Solomon was the wisest man, he was given wisdom beyond his peers yet he was not obedient.

So God will destroy smart people and preserve those who aren't smart shey?

You don't know what it means to BELIEVE in JESUS!

tctrills:
Oga smartness does not necessarily come as a result of your religion and Jesus never said it does.

Guy you don't believe in Jesus!

This is what it means to believe in Jesus:

He is the most wonderful counselor of all time. Isaiah 9:6

He is the only begotten Son of God. John 3:16

He is the best teacher God approved. Matthew 17:5

So answer the question:
With the above what do you think about the students trained by this person?

Ọmọ if you're still in doubt about his disciples being the smartest on planet earth then you don't really believe those three points!

OLAADEGBU:
You can only find salvation in Jesus alone, not in your kingdom hall gatherings.

You're just a stupid Deeperlifer.

Next time don't speak against any religion as long as they claim to believe in Jesus!

tctrills:
So because I claim to be a Christian, you think I should lie and say JW are the smartest people on earth. In the US for example, the JW are among the least educated and poorest of all religions. They are not very smart people. They are mostly mediocres.

Who said you should say my own organization? at least say "Christians are the smartest" if you truly believe that Jesus is the best counselor. But you don't believe in Jesus you're just following the blind crowd!

Righthussle:
Thank goodness I don't practice any religion.

This is about what some religions teaches their members not what is found in the Bible, what God's word teaches believers is that we make sure our dressing and grooming doesn't go to the extreme so that we won't distract the person we're preaching to we our fashion and style hence making them focus on our looks instead of paying rapt attention to the message. In fact when Christians aren't on the preaching and teaching stuff we can be casual with our dressing and grooming!

oteneaaron:
Which dictionary did you get this definition from?
Your definition of "Blind Faith" is misleading.
The English Club vocabulary clearly defines "Blind Faith" as unquestioning belief in something, even when it's unreasonable or wrong.

This is the problem you people often have!

You're so carried away with the English that you missed the essence of your preferred definition.

OK let's break it down:
If a woman or man is said to be FAITHFUL to his or her partner it simply because such a person has FAITH in the partner not so?
How can such be a BLIND FAITH!
Is it not when there's no benefit in sight as real from the so called relationship?

Ọmọ you question your faith in something when there's no benefit in sight not when you're seeing the benefit right there in your very face!

The benefit Jesus promised his disciples is not head knowledge of whatsoever you may think of NO.

This is what Jesus promised his disciples:

Then Peter said in reply: “Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27

Jesus said: “Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life." Mark 10:29-30

So stop deceiving yourself with all those stories about errors in the making of what Jesus promised, he never said they will be perfect in their findings but the result is what will give them the assurance that they're on the right path.

It's like you traveling to a strange place you've never been before but the person giving you the directions told you things you will see to be sure that you're still in track.

Today the one and only organization of worshipers having what Jesus promised is Jehovah's Witnesses so how they got there doesn't matter as long as they're studying the Bible nobody can say they don't get it right unless you can present a better performing group that has achieved the same result!

FOLYKAZE:
I now understand you like unnecessary arguments.

You can never ever find anyone that will agree with you on thought about faith because apart from the JWs all other schools of thought aren't from God so it's either you take whatever anyone say and part each other on the back just to avoid UNNECESSARY ARGUMENTS or you go into it proper.

CHRISTENDOM, BUDDHISM, JUDAISM, ISLAM, HINDUISM, TRADITIONAL, ATHEISM, AGNOSTISM and any other school of thought you may think of are all from the same source only Jehovah's Witnesses organization have what it takes to believe the same thing and work together as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers.

I am telling you now to try and see if what i just said is a lie, though you will not like it but that's the ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

OLAADEGBU:
Why do you then go from house to house looking for your next victim, to preach salvation?

Because i don't share your opinion, my beliefs says that only those practicing what Jesus taught will be saved {John 3:16} so my going from house to house is to know those with whom i share the same line of thought so that we may continue meeting together as fellow believers! Hebrews 19:24-25

Unlike you who said salvation doesn't need a unique gathering of believers i strongly believe that Jesus' disciples are ONE in thought {John 17:22} and they don't discriminate among them. 1Corinthians 1:10
So whatever causes discrimination means we are not on the same page.

tctrills:
Good for you. Unfortunately for you, just because you think it doesn't make it so. I have had extensive discussions with people of various faiths and beliefs. I am in a better position to tell you the smart ones and the very dull ones.

Says a person who claims to be a Christian!

You just open your mouth and talk without a second thought. I was a Muslim and after the dedication to become one of JWs i have spoken to people from religions of all sort so i can confidently tell you that the smartest ever are those practicing what Jesus taught!

tctrills:
You guys have been trained to see others as foolish. Only JW are super smart so it really doesn't matter.

Our teacher is the world's most wonderful counselor {Isaiah 9:6} so his students are the wisest and smartest on planet that's why God wants to keep them forever! John 3:16

If you're not seeing your fellow believers the same way then you're faithless!

cornelboy:
Lol 😂😂

He always try to play smart but he can never ever be smarter than students trained by the Governing Body of God's organization.
He is just one of those miscreants claiming they believe in God!

tctrills:
Foolish question as the passage was discussing humans not cows. How does cows come into this. Please explain.

Stupid argumentator!
So when people go into farming what their animals bears as babies aren't FRUIT of the womb shey?
I already know you will run from fact!

tctrills:
Property that is or may be inherited; an inheritance.

So how are pagan children whose parents will be destroyed are God's property or His inheritance?

Truvelisback:
So, if I celebrate my birthday, I belong to demon? Why missing up you tradition or culture with Christianity? Birthday celebration has nothing to do with the devil nor God. It is we who misinterpret and misunderstand things.

You don't belong to demons if you want to be part of God's people then you have to stay clear away from the world celebrating what God's enemies do celebrate! John 15:19

Birthday or Christmas is worldly that's why people who don't even believe in God like atheists and agnostics love it even though they hate the mention of Jesus' name.
So do you belong to Jesus or to the world? 1John 2:15

Whatever name the world gives their festivals is of no use to us because the spirit behind it can use the name of God, Jesus or even angels it's their mode of operations that will help you to know where they belong! 2Corinthians 11:14
My guy i've revealed too much it's time to take my leave. Goodbye!

Truvelisback:
Where in the Bible did your God warned you not to celebrate Christmas?

Is Christmas mentioned at all in the Bible?
Whatever pagans like Pharaoh and Herod were celebrating belongs to demons not God! 1Corinthians 10:20

Please i'm not here to upset you it's the love of God that makes believers stay away from pagan traditions.

Antiislaam:
You've come again with your nonsense talk abi

Refute what those scriptures say or shut up!

Shut up!

sonmvayina:
You are growing up..
Even though it's at a snail's pace...

tctrills:
Heritage does not mean property. Secondly in that same verse, it states that the fruit of the womb is his reward. Now this should make it clear to you since you don't understand the meaning of heritage.
God gives the fruit of the womb.
Because you may not know, the fruit of the womb means pregnancy.
So how much clearer can this be, all children come from God.
So according to JW is it only the fruit of the womb of christians that comes from God?
Clearly you guys believe that babies come from God and pagan babies come from somewhere else.
Oga you guys are semi pagan.
Now here are the words of Paul
And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, ..
So the demonic idea that some babies come from God and others come from wherever is a doctrine of the devil.

So the fruit from the womb of cows, ram, goat and sheep are from where?
Why kill them for meat?

Guy heritage connotes responsibility so if anyone kills such heritage God will be angry with the killer whereas God Himself ordered the killing of waste products you're calling "babies"

Truvelisback:
As long as Angels celebrated his birth, it is worth celebrating. How did you know that God didn't approve the celebration? You guys like giving credit to the devil by calling everything Pagan. If you chose not to celebrate it, fine but don't castigate those who chose to do so. As long as I am concerned, pagans have no day. The days belongs to God.

Well our God warmed us not to practice whatever pagans are practicing and from Genesis to Revelations there are just two examples of birthday celebrations:
Genesis 40:20
Matthew 14:6
In these two occasions both celebrants were pagans who don't believe in God, they both killed on their birthday and attendees were faithless people.
Moreover God's word made us to understand that the day of death is of more importance to faithful servants of God than the day of birth {Ecclesiastes 7:1} and in line with what God's word said the date God's only begotten Son was born remain unknown but the date of his death was penned down in the scriptures and that's exactly the day he COMMANDED us to remember yearly if we're obeying his instructions! Luke 22:19

So if you want to celebrate birthdays or Christmas nobody has the right to stop you but know that it's UNSCRIPTURAL.

May you have PEACE!