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tctrills:
Does it matter. This shows an everlasting hatred. But it's ok

Sorry, about the highlighted you misconstrued the matter because God's word said there is going to be an EVERLASTING ENMITY between two categories of people {Genesis 3:15 compare to Luke 16:26} it's not hatred because they don't really hate me neither do i hate them but the hatred is between the two camps: Between light and darkness.

So it's left to you to choose which one is light to you as for me i choose God's organization that's why it's seems they hate me and yeah it's OK!

oteneaaron:
There is still more!
MaxInDHouse is LYING your natural way of speaking? Here is still more evidence of MaxInDHouse insulting other people on Nairaland:There is still much much more.
Is this what it means to be a Christian?
I wonder. 🤔🤔

So these quotes are found on this particular thread shey?
You can't stop me from chatting with interested listeners on this forum so your troubles can't change me you can only run here and there on this forum sincere and honest hearted individuals will focus on what yields positive results as promised in God's word. It's just a pity that you don't even believe in God's word!

tctrills:
You see, people have the record of your insults so take it easy with the lies.

Are these quotes on this thread?

Why are you do dishonest?

Do you want to say i never insulted anyone in my life? Or that when people behaves stupidity forcing their resolution on me i shouldn't put them in their rightful place?

Ọmọ you're really insincere on this instead of judging from what happened in your own thread you're judging from quotes that you don't even know what led to it.
No wonder you said Jesus lost his manner because he treated people differently at different occasions!

tctrills:
Oga we are adults here. We both know you have no love for many of the fellows and you have expressed this in the most derogatory term.

You don't know the meaning of LOVE.
So simply because i refuse to exchange hurtful words with them on your thread or because i responded to you alone means i don't love them?
Please how do you define LOVE?

tctrills:
Remember you are the online marketer not me. I don't see the wisdom of doing my church is better than yours online or even offline.

That's a lie!
Because if you claim to be a Christian but you don't market your religion then you're LYING to your own soul.
Jesus commanded his disciples to MARKET the faith throughout the world {Matthew 28:19-20} and his apostle said we should do so at every slightest opportunity! 2Timothy 4:1-2
So just accept that you don't know Jesus at all!

tctrills:
It's not a useful question. I prefer discussing the doctrines and not the organization. You prefer talking about your organization. Two different styles but it's ok to be different.

Jesus presented his organization as his brothers and sisters {Matthew 12:46-50} so if you can't present the organization you belong you don't know Jesus of Nazareth!

tctrills:
Oga you obviously have a beef so let's not pretend you don't.

Now what are you doing?
I had a beef yet i only concentrate on you despite all their insults, abuses and curses.
Ọmọ you're not sincere!

tctrills:
My choice or religious preference should not be your concern but then who am I to tell you what to worry about. Just so you know, I have no issues with where or how I worship so thanks for your concern but it's not needed

So why not do unto others what you want?
You're worried about our beliefs and when it's updated but you don't want yours to be exposed.
Well that's why i keep asking:
Present a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES because i know there's none!

tctrills:
You are the one insulting others. I believe you have a beef with other people on this thread but I don't.

I have a beef yet i have not insulted anyone till now. Hmmmmmmm are you really sincere?

tctrills:
No, you have shown great dishonesty in our discussion.
For example, it's been 3 days since we have begged you to link us to the updated definition of poor in spirit. Clearly you are not comfortable with that.Again you accused me of calling Paul a sinner for calling some people fools when it was you who suggested that Paul committed a sin. And lastly you agreed that many of your teachings are not correct and need to be updated.

You have said that our beliefs are based on guesswork since we do update our understanding so there's no need worrying yourself about our beliefs anymore after all you said:

I am open to people sharing their ideas

Openness has nothing to do with whatever any group of people believe as long as they're not a menace in the society. If you're truly after honesty why haven't you pick one out of all the religions around you?
After all only JWs are dishonest while others are honest.

tctrills:
I have not said anything about you but the truth. Should I also regret telling you the truth?

So your truth is joining faithless miscreants to insult people calling them names whereas you have people around you who claims God's word is false?
Your truth is really SELECTIVE!

tctrills:
Please quote, I have never insulted you. I only called out your dishonesty. So please quote anywhere you feel I insulted you. I don't do personal insults. It's never personal for me.

Well there's nothing like dishonesty when your neighbour is talking about his own faith while you're trying to change his mind and he stick to his faith. It's either you take it or leave it just as you did to those saying God's word is false!

tctrills:
Everyone preaches in his own way. I have never complained about JW preaching. I often listen to them. I am open to people sharing their ideas

Are you really saying the highlighted or you're regretting all what you've said against me for sticking to my beliefs?

It's still this same thread o, or should i start quoting you on this same thread where you've been insulting me and other JWs for having a unique faith?

Imperfect human who is ready to live his life in harmony with the standard set by a perfect man so in most cases he errs greatly and his fellow imperfect human notice but instead of the later to praise him for the bold step he has taken they reluctant unbeliever wants to judge the Christian and often not based on what Jesus taught rather on assumptions regarded as Christ's teachings by those who don't even believe in Christ.

For instance most people assumed that Jesus doesn't drink alcoholic beverages so when they see a Christian doing so they call him out as sinner whereas Jesus enjoyed alcoholic beverages responsibly! Luke 7:31-35

tctrills:
You are comparing your behavior to that of Jesus Christ or rather you are excusing bad behavior and using Jesus as an excuse but like I said, let's all worship the way we best understand

I love the highlighted!

So JWs are OK to continue worshiping the way we best understand shey?

Hope you won't start complaining when we preach in our neighbourhood just as Jesus commanded us after all you only need to say you're not interested and we will walk away but you don't have to start trailing us up and down simply because we don't share the same line of thought with you!

tctrills:
You think Jesus Christ was mannerless right? Anyway if that's how you feel you are following Jesus Christ then good for you. We all have our ways of following him so I can't judge. I remember Paul did the same calling some people foolish.

That's the result when you're just so much in a hurry to judge others. I gave you reasons why Jesus had to be aggressive towards apostate Jew and why he maintained his calmness all through when dealing with a sincere Jew but you summed it all up as being mannerless that's why i told you it's OK if Jesus' reaction means mannerless to you.

However manner is characteristic mode of acting or behaviour so when you say someone is mannerless it simply means you can't figure out his next line of action no matter how long you study him or her but in this case i explained to you why Jesus acted differently in the two scenario so that when next someone else ask you why Jesus didn't treat the Jewish religious leaders and Nathaniel the same way you will know how to respond instead you hastily concluded that such an action connotes lack of manner to you.
That's another lesson for you next time be fast when listening but slow before response it will really help you to respond wisely! James 1:19

tctrills:
Ok you are saying that you are nice to some people but you lose your manners with others

Just as Jesus did!

Nijagogetsense:
Hope you know that my truth is never blasphemy. Unless you can't defend your delusions... Peace✊🏿

My self and millions of my brothers in faith globally have WORKED OUT the needed peace in our organization {Isaiah 2:2-4} it's you who need to figure out how you're going to make peace with your neighbours!

tctrills:
So you are saying that my commendation was not in order. I see

Of course it's not, i just want you to know that as one of Jesus' disciples with freeness of speech i'm not restrained in anyway from responding aggressively to apostates it's you who is just acting on their negative thoughts that i must be calm no matter how annoyed you may be you haven't gotten fully into their page.

Despite Jesus' harsh response to Pharisees (the Jewish apostates of his day) when a neutral Jew spoke negatively of Jesus' background Jesus lovingly, calmly, humbly, respectively and hopefully addressed the man.

Please READ:

The next day he wanted to leave for Galʹi·lee. Jesus then found Philip and said to him: “Be my follower.” Now Philip was from Beth·saʹi·da, from the city of Andrew and Peter. Philip found Na·thanʹa·el and said to him: “We have found the one of whom Moses, in the Law, and the Prophets wrote: Jesus, the son of Joseph, from Nazʹa·reth.” But Na·thanʹa·el said to him: “Can anything good come out of Nazʹa·reth?” Philip said to him: “Come and see.” Jesus saw Na·thanʹa·el coming toward him and said about him: “See, truly an Israelite in whom there is no deceit.” John 1:43-47

Did you see how Nathaniel passed a negative comment regarding the home town where Jesus grew up?
Why did Jesus responded positively?

Well it's simple to Jesus Nathaniel is just carried away with emotions he is not against God's will and because of Jesus' calm response Nathaniel was richly blessed in fact among the twelve whose names formed the foundation stones of the New Jerusalem in heaven Nathaniel's name is written!

So don't expect me to respond the same way i'm doing to you now when i'm addressing apostates in fact that's why i ignored them completely only to respond to the one who is claiming he's one of them whereas he openly condemned God's word the Bible yet they're still carrying him along as one of them!

tctrills:
I am really proud of 5he change that is coming over you. It seems you are becoming a decent human being. Please keep it up. I wish all JW on Nairaland can be like the new improved MaxinDHouse.

You really amuse me walahi talahi because the Christlike attitude is not stereotype when it comes to response to critics. Jesus insulted the critics calling them:
HYPOCRITES! Matthew 23:15
FOOLS! Matthew 23:17
BLIND GUIDE! Matthew 23:19
And most of his illustrations (parables) were to expose the hypocrisies of the Jewish religious leaders of the first century.
But then one may wonder why is Jesus so aggressive in his speech to the religious leaders in his time when he is teaching others to be calm and humble?
Well it's because of the assignment given to him
*To help faithful Jews measure up to the standard God set for corulers with the Christ this will crown the fulfilment of what God promised Abraham that Kings and Priests will come out from his descendants and through this priests all the nations of the earth will be blessed! Genesis 12:3 compare to Exodus 19:5
*To prove among them that all the promises of GOD regarding future blessings is possible with his God's given power! John 11:43-44
*To bear spiritual children through his teachings so that Adam's descendants who inherited sin and death may have everything life through our adopted new father! 1Corinthians 15:45
*To gather peace lovers through the earth and lead them to his father for their salvation! Matthew 5:43-48
These four points are clearly stated in the words of Isaiah when he said the Christ will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6
But the first century Jewish leaders we're not interested in such a leader what they wanted is a warrior king like David who will lead them to battle and conquer their enemy nations e.g Rome
Jesus' ministry makes no sense to them as their political ambitions will never be met! John 11:48
So they will not support him neither will they allow other Jews to get the sense of Jesus work in order to be saved and become corulers with Christ as purposed from the beginning! Matthew 23:13
That's why Jesus whose preaching and teaching about LOVE, JOY and PEACE became aggressive in his speeches.
So don't think if i'm to respond to apostates (exjws) who are lying about God's organization to prevent interested ones from getting the sense of our ministry i won't be aggressive as usual. NO i will be aggressive in my response to them but even though in my aggression any sincere and honest hearted follower will grasp my message of peace because i will not just throw hurtful words rather i will continue asking them the one million dollars question:
Present a better performing group than the one you left!
Though you may not know how much this question gets on their nerves but at least you know that whatever makes any sane human abandon what is very precious to him he must have gotten something far better.
On this thread i only played smart i'm still the same Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

May you have PEACE!

tctrills:
You claimed that you don't read Achorladey's post but then JW are not known for honesty or keeping their words.

I don't because he always ends it with insults and curses but i quickly noticed this one that he didn't do the insults and cursing.

Meanwhile are you honest saying i am the worst behaved who lie and fight like high school ladies?

Yet on this thread i have only spoken calmly to you throughout.

Ọmọ i know how to outsmart people so that by the time they shouting:
LIES! LIES!!!
I will not tell you that you're lying but you will loose it and start doing exactly what you accused me of.

Peter said:

"Maintain your conduct fine among the nations, so that when they accuse you of being wrongdoers, they may be eyewitnesses of your fine works and, as a result, glorify God in the day of his inspection" 1Peter 2:12

The angels watching what is happening on this thread can write something about the attitude of commentators on this thread! Malachi 3:16-18

On this same thread:

tctrills:
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You are the worst behaved because you lie and fight like highschool drama queens.

Then:

tctrills:
You know I am not about insults. I have gotten many from the JW brats on Nairaland but I am only about the discussion.
You must have noticed that I am a super calm guy.
And yes you used to be very insulting and you used to call me names too. But congrats, you are getting mature.

I will disappoint you because my mission has been fulfilled on this thread.

My first post has answered your question with accuracy.

Whoever knows God should be able to answer thought provoking questions people who have grudges against God have in their minds some will be satisfied and have a change of mind but others will continue agitating saying they want God to answer Himself.

I am one of those satisfied with the response i got from Jehovah's Witnesses so i became one of them it's not everyone that can be like me neither can anyone who is not like me stop people like me from welcoming what satisfied our curiosity about God and Jesus of Nazareth!

May you have PEACE!

achorladey:
Time to play the victim card game of insult and exchanging hurtful words

Wow!

So all the insanities and madness you've been singing ever since has suddenly stopped or you're just disappointed that i never danced to your tune?

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses i can manage anyone no matter how heartless they may be.

At least tctrills will continue waiting for the worst behaved JW on Nairaland who lie and fight like highschool drama queens to join in throwing hurtful words and insults here and there!

MaxInDHouse:
During the investigation of Mohbad's death if the police ask you:
"Do you know Naira Marley?"
What will be your response?
YES! or NO!
You need to know why this is a sensitive question because saying "YES" will mean that if you're asked to tell where Naira Marley lives, what he likes, what he detests, how he often reacts to matters, where he loves going and his friends you should be able to give necessary details failure to do so will be taken as trying to hide sensitive information.
So apply the same to knowing God and Jesus!

The title "GOD" has become a criminalized title in the ears of most people both religious and none religious alike each of them wants to question the bearer of that title they're just waiting for Him to show up.
So when Jehovah's Witnesses organization emerged to console honest hearted individuals with the Good News of God's kingdom grieving ones also show up with their bitterness of heart always claiming whatever we say is based on lies.
Well we aren't forcing our teaching on anyone it's strictly for ourselves and whoever wants to subscribe to our message so if you feel what we have is false there is no need bothering yourself those that will treasure it are out there, they will surely set everything they have to buy it whether you call it LIES or not.
They will continue making use of it to resolve all their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So you guys have no problem since you can go for other religions of your choice!

tctrills:
I like the spirit. At least I know you are not offended when I point out wrongs in your organization.

Guy i'm Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses you will drain all your brains waiting for me to start hauling insults and exchanging hurtful words with you but i won't do that with you so you can continue throwing insults and accusing me, your conscience will continue to disturb you that you're deceiving yourself with your friends as they're doing everything they could while i maintained my calmness.

On this thread i will not give you what you want so you can't get me to start exchanging hurtful words with you that's a failed mission!

tctrills:
I am happy you can make jokes. But I believe we both agree here.

If i disagree what difference does it makes?

tctrills:
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You are the worst behaved because you lie and fight like highschool drama queens.

RECOMMENDATION!

tctrills:
I can understand being Jealous of the Catholic
Or being jealous of the pentecostal
Or being jealous of the Latter day saints
Or being jealous of the salvation army

Yet you have not joined any of them in worship!

tctrills:
You can't stop lying. You and your goons are some of the worst behaved people in Nairaland. Now is it not stupidity, you are not on TV or newspaper but you are on social media and online public forums. A bunch of confused people.

Worst behaved because we are speaking about our faith shey?
And how has that translated to NOISE?
Hope you still remember the meaning of that word sha?

You try!

tctrills:
Please read it never spoke of a book. People come from different areas to Jerusalem to learn the word of God and not to learn lies. Big difference.

YES! Those making the best use of it will call it "TRUTH" while idle men who aren't achieving anything will call it "LIES" but those working towards it are living evidence that it's God's will!

tctrills:
No bible verse preaches the separation of politics. The problem is that you guys are yet to update your interpretation.

Oh you don't know shey?
Revelations 18:4 declared SEPARATE yourselves from killers who aren't obeying the words of Christ!

tctrills:
My desire is only to point out your lies. Mention one thing the JW have that would make anyone jealous. I don't think anyone can be jealous of lies do you?

You're not jealous yet you can't present one group at least to counter the performance of God's people!

tctrills:
This is no point. Just because someone points out your lies doesn't make him a Pharisee or Sadducee.

Pharisees called Jesus a LIAR but what proved them wrong? Failure to perform better than Jesus in fulfilling God's purpose!

tctrills:
If you ask any non JW to mention to top 20 performing churches, no one would mention JW.
You are the only one that thinks you are doing great.
You are just another mediocre church. Only that you make a lot of noise

The most quiet religion ever making noises?
Chai ọmọ cover your face in shame because honest hearted and sincere individuals will tell you that we don't disturb people with NOISE {Matthew 12:19} neither can you see us on TVs ,News papers or Radio making announcement for our religion rather we silently walk into their homes just as Christ Jesus commanded us! Matthew 10:11-13

tctrills:
No one spoke about forming an organization please apply your education. This is simple English. The bible never mentioned forming of any organization in those verses. It spoke of a world order that would be ruled from Jerusalem not America.

People coming from different geographical locations to study one book while others aren't showing interest means an organization of worshipers. So if you don't understand that's your own cup of coffee!

tctrills:
Mention one sign. Please show your sign

Only Jehovah's Witnesses have achieved the separation from politicians and nationalists who are killing their fellow believers in other lands {Revelations 6:3-4} when they're supposed to LOVE their neighbours as themselves {Mark 12:31} LOVE and pray for their enemies {Luke 6:27 -28} and LOVE their fellow believers just as Jesus Christ loves! John 13:34-35
Your desperation to accuse this organization is enough to show how jealous you're against the oneness among God's people! John 17:22

tctrills:
Oga you are not among the top performing organizations by any metrics

Ọya mention the one you're working with nah!

tctrills:
You don't force a prophecy and prophecies are not lies.
Your organization does not meet any of the standards in the verses you quoted.
Yes the Pharisees and Sadducees did not believe but Jesus Christ was always able to prove himself using the scriptures.
He did not need to lie, make up things or use guesswork.
He fulfilled scripture 100%. He did not need to force himself or organization into a scripture that was not about him.

The same thing the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis said about Jesus when they were hunting the disciples!
They said Jesus' disciples were forcing prophesies on the man they condemned as an impostor! Act 4:18; 5:28

So Jesus is right because the same thing you and your cohorts are doing today yet you can't form one religion to perform better than God's organization!

tctrills:
Oga this verse has nothing to do with Jehovah witnesses.
1. It say , 'i will instruct them in the ways of the Lord' It did not say I will instruct them in the way of lies and guess

2. The verse says that He will render judgment among the nations. Clearly the day the Lord is talking about is yet to come.

You ask who are these organized people? Clearly from the verse it can't be JW.
So you see, no evidence.

3Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore.
This day is yet to come. So clearly God was not talking about a church or organization but about the future state of the entire world.
When that day comes, there would be peace in the whole world. It has nothing to do with JW.
In that day people would not be deceived anymore. People would not depend on guesswork.
Groups like JW would have no purpose anymore because there wouldn't be a need to depend on guesswork and lies to interprete the word of God.
So you see, No Evidence.

Do you know what is LIES?
You and your cohorts are the ones calling it "LIES"
The author said these people that come from different geographical locations will form an organization and in that organization they will concentrate on what God's word has for them then they will use it to settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3

That's an indisputable sign showing you that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION is the one and only true religion having the backing of the Almighty God!

Of course you will throw it to the wind as you and all your friends can't present a better performing group that's doing the above.

What did the Pharisees and Sadducees said about Jesus and his disciples?
They said Jesus and his followers are liars not to be trusted and if anyone ask them about the Christ promised in the scriptures they say he's yet to come even though they acknowledge John the baptist who declared that he has come to prepare the way for the Christ they are still expecting their own Christ till today despite the fact that Jerusalem has been destroyed along with it's temple and the inhabitants scattered throughout the earth.

Ọmọ continue waiting for the fulfilment of that prophecy while we continue to fulfil it right in your presence!

FxMasterz:
Of what value would it be for a people to concoct stories that they were once slaves somewhere? Of what value would it be for them to state that they were roaming a wilderness for 40yrs? What do you think they intended to achieve by telling such lies? Besides, they didn't write for the world. They wrote for themselves. To keep records of their own events. What would they gain by writing such lies for themselves?

Wow!
Some are just naturally intelligent indeed!

oteneaaron:
Hahahahahahaha
Kindly quote where I explicitly stated that the Bible is all LIES.
The question is simple, did the Exodus Really Happen?
If yes, can we use evidence from archeology to prove it?
This is a simple investigation into bibilical history and chronology.
It's just like saying, did the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses really prophesy that the world would be destroyed in 1914, 1925 and 1975?
If yes, can we use evidence from the history of the organization to prove it?
Obviously, in the case of Jehovah's Witnesses, the answer is a bold YES.
The evidence is there for everyone to see.

Did the Exodus really happened?
https://www.nairaland.com/7935203/did-exodus-really-happen

Is Jesus a real historical figure?
https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse


Please what vital part of the Bible is real to you?

tctrills:
Oga do you know the meaning of evidence? Please false evidence does not count as evidence.
Again, there are no loopholes in God's words.
God is not man.
Finally when you depend on guesswork, you don't call it God's words, rather you call it the words of inconsistent men.

EVIDENCE

God's word said:

In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Who are this organized people today?
Without them there's no evidence that the Bible as God's word is Truth! Isaiah 43:10-12

So if you don't believe in the one and only organization of imperfection humans fulfilling this prophecy today as evidence of God's active force (Holy Spirit) working in the midst of mankind.
What evidence do you have about that book in your hand?

tctrills:
You cover one lie with another. How can just one church be rooted in so many lies.
I felt you should be brave enough to show your definition but again I am wrong, it's not the JW pattern. Honesty is just not your style.

You never trust living evidence so there's no need giving you evidence!

Meanwhile your friend is already saying God's word is full of LIES while you are here saying God's organization is full of LIES.

oteneaaron:
As part of my indepth research into the true origins of the Bible and religion in general, I recently added a new book to my library.
The book is titled: The Bible Unearthed - Archeology's New Vision of Ancient Isreal and the Orgin of Its Sacred Texts.
It was written by Finkelstein Israel and Silberman Neil Asher.
In this thread, I going to share some excerpts from Chapter 2 of the book so that we can confidently answer this question - Did the Exodus Really Happen? Let's dig in!

https://www.nairaland.com/7935203/did-exodus-really-happen#127383695

If both of you don't believe in living evidence because you're interested in loopholes where exactly do you think the errors is, God's word, God's organization or you guys?

tctrills:
You guys have zero credibility.

But we are the one and only organization that's fulfilling what God promised in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3

That is an indisputable evidence nobody can rub off no matter how bitter they are!

tctrills:
Please can you send me the link to the updated JW definition of poor in spirit or just copy and paste from the site thanks.

Matthew 7:6