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tctrills:
Yes there are many such religions. But I said these people don't try to market themselves to me on Nairaland. You are the Nairaland marketers.

So they're not Christians because according to Christ his disciples must seize every opportunity to preach and teach as in MARKET their faith.
Ọmọ that's the import of Talents in the Bible book of Matthew 25:14-29

We must MARKET the faith as Revelations says we sell it freely! Revelations 22:17

IAmHim1:
i dont want to believe you'd reject a visa to the united states or a country without your gathering. then how do you really plan to convert the 'unbelievers' scattered over the world?

This question really shows that you don't know anything about Jehovah's Witnesses.
Well we have members in all the countries on this planet the only thing you can say is that in some places where there is no freedom of speech and religion our brothers change our system of preaching.

tctrills:
Oga do you see any one from these organizations marketing themselves on this thread? I can't go on a thread a start mentioning JW unless I am having a conversation with JW marketers.

So you are lying that some other religions apart from the one and only true Christian group (Jehovah's Witnesses) are saying the same thing about being the only religion God approved shey?

tctrills:
I don't go about attacking people and religious even when I don't agree. But if you are trying to sell a false organizations view point it's my duty to point you out. Now talking about preaching the gospel, the Catholic have over 1billion members. They did not get there by sleeping at home. They are far better missionaries than you will ever be. Even a new church like winners has more members than you do. Clearly they are reaching out more than you are.

Guy if we're talking about members of religion on this planet Buddhists and Islam each have more members than Catholics:
https://youtube.com/shorts/qBACXJFGFuk?si=acvHPLUEbgT5uy2w

are you saying they're also preaching zealously and industriously teaching like Jesus commanded his disciples?
And as for Catholics whose members are in the army killing one another during political struggles, are you saying they're also disciples of Christ who commanded his disciples never to raise weapons against anyone?
In fact you're becoming more and more hypocritical than ever, Jesus commanded his disciples to LOVE their fellow believers just as he love them {John 13:34-35} Catholics who aren't even interested in what Jesus taught are your favorite when talking about evangelizing which supposed to turn people into peace lovers shey? Matthew 5:43-48

You can run o but you can't hide!

tctrills:
I have never been worried about your church. You are the one so desperately trying to market you fake organization to me and I only give you reasons why I am not buying it.
I treat you the same way I treat any other false marketer trying to push his products into my hands. I only go for real and authentic products.

So can you quote one member of the religions you mentioned on this forum:
Catholics , Seventh Day Adventis, Olumba, Cele or any other that's MARKETING his FAKE ORGANIZATION to you on this forum apart from Jehovah's Witnesses? Matthew 28:19-20 compare to Act 1:8

tctrills:
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I know at least 2 churches that use those same verses in Isaiah as their evidence.
Have you heard of William M. Branham, He too uses Isaiah 2:2-4 along with many other bible verses as his evidence.

Good!
So if that's true then why are you worried that my own church is saying the same?
Is it because members of my own church have reasons to believe and say it?
Or you're bitter that some people actually believe in the fact that others will perish while they inherit the earth just as the Bible foretold?

tctrills:
Lol
Everything you say, a Cele member will say the same. An olumba olumba member will say the same.
Anyone can say that the bible was referring to his church but that does not make it so.

Now you're talking!
So you know not only Jehovah's Witnesses say this then why are you so temperamental?
The truth is that all religionists are saying the same thing but they can't point to evidence just as i've been quoting the Bible to show you how only Jehovah's Witnesses are doing God's will today!

tctrills:
Now what do you mean when you say a spiritual mountain. Please define a spiritual mountain

Spiritual mountains means religions people look up to for help that's why David said he will look up to the mountain of his own God! Psalms 121:1-2

tctrills:
Where is this mountain located?

It's a spiritual mountain that's viewed globally when Jesus said his disciples will be like the house built on top of the highest mountain to be seen globally {Matthew 5:14-16} he is talking about pure worship that's in spirit and truth not about a geographical location! John 4:24
Throughout the earth today people are talking about Jehovah's Witnesses as if their own people who joined the organization aren't their own people anymore due to their trying to put on the new personality. Ephesians 4:22-24

tctrills:
This passage was talking of a time when all nations would be at peace.

The nations here means people from different countries just as Jehovah told Abraham when he is yet to have a child. So from God's viewpoint those fulfilling this prophecy will become the nations when all unbelievers are destroyed!

tctrills:
Let's talk about God's words and not your guesswork.
Isaiah 2:2-4

2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
Here it states that on that day, God's house would be on a mountain and all nations would come to it.

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
Now it tells us the location, Jerusalem. This makes sense because Jerusalem is a plateau in the Judaean Mountains
4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Jesus Christ would be the judge of the nations.
There would be an end to global war.
Now in all these, how does this concern JW.
Stop forcing yourself into a prophecy that doesn't concern you.

OLÓDO!

The first verse nullified your argument!

It clearly stated that the mountain of the Lord's house will be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it

Ọmọ the Lord's house connotes pure worship God's word is saying it will be established above all false religions {Matthew 5:14-16} so that sincere and honest hearted individuals from all the nations will flock into pure worship {Act 1:8} how will this happen?
Malachi answered:

Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him. Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not. Malachi 3:16-18

That's why Jesus commanded Jehovah's Witnesses to go preaching and teaching so that they can achieve this! Matthew 28:18-20

That's what they're doing today: God's will. Matthew 7:21-23

So let it be known today that if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses there's no way your name can enter the book of life {Revelations 20:15} Malachi 3:16 clearly stated that God ordered angels to start penning down the names of those associating with Jehovah's Witnesses and studying the Bible with them!

tctrills:
Oga the verses you quoted have nothing to do with JW. The fact that you twisted prophecy doesn't make this about JW.
Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3 both talk about a time when Christ shall Judge among all nations and would be the government of the time. It never spoke about an organization or church.
So please find another verse to back up your falsehoods.
It says,
nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Clearly, that day has not come.
Please learn to read the verse before quoting it.
Now let me quote a verse to show that the works of the organizations I mentioned are of God.
James 1:27
27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Why have you sealed your heart to the truth found in God's word?

Well the highlighted is related to Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Please what is the most active factor that puts people in the condition of being WIDOWS and ORPHANS?
Is it not WARS?
Well apart from visiting people in their homes Jehovah's Witnesses have taught all their members to keep themselves UNSPOTTED from the bloodshed that's increasing widows and fatherless throughout the earth.

Do you now understand why the Bible is all about JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?

tctrills:
The only works you show are works of falsehoods.
You can't compare your fake works to that of the Catholic, salvation army, 7 days Adventist just to name a few.
You make so much noise about works but these organizations are quietly making the world a better places with their labours of love
and charity.
So clearly, you are not wise.

Can you quote a verse in the Bible that shows the works these religions are doing is from the divine?

When God's word say WORKS it's Jesus that's talking here and i'm sure you know what Jesus meant by WORKS because he can't be talking about something that unbelievers can do well for that will make no sense again if atheists are also able to do the same works Jesus won't say we must believe in him.

So please point to the works any other religion is doing that is from the divine which atheists and pagans aren't able to do.

Let me say what only God's organization can do:

They will gather people from all races, they will use what they found in God's word to teach themselves, they will divert their resources into production of food and information materials, they will erase the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3

That's the work Jesus assigned to his disciples as he taught them to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers separated from the foolish world! Act 1:8

Oya i'm all ears listening patiently to know the FINE WORKS those religions are doing that all other religions and atheists can't do!

tctrills:
Look at this man that can't define a simple phase talking about wisdom.
You claimed to be the smartest on earth yet you get confused by simple English words.
There is no wisdom in JW and you have no wisdom to give.
I don't want to become like you. I don't want to make falsehoods my wisdom.

wisdom

*An element of personal character that enables one to distinguish the wise from the unwise.

*A piece of wise advice.
The discretionary use of knowledge for the greatest good.

*The ability to apply relevant knowledge in an insightful way, especially to different situations from that in which the knowledge was gained.

*The ability to make a decision based on the combination of knowledge, experience, and intuitive understanding.

*The ability to know and apply spiritual truths.

A group of wombats.
A group of owls.

The above is Oxford definition of WISDOM so i am fully convinced that in the absence of what is PRACTICALLY APPLICABLE in the society the word WISDOM is useless.
Therefore WISDOM can rightly be defined as the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of accumulated information for maximum benefit.
Only Jehovah's Witnesses have WISDOM if the dictionary's definition is correct because none of those claiming they're wise can present any fine WORKS their so called wisdom achieved for the benefit of mankind! James 2:18-25

IAmHim1:
How did you keep God alive in your heart when it was corona period and worshippers could not assemble.

We meet regularly throughout but not in a hall we continued meeting online as we share the things we were instructed to remind one another through ZOOM.
So we kept God alive in our hearts through the meetings.
You dodge the questions Sir,

Where did you get the idea about a person in the sky called "GOD" if not through religion?
How do you inculcate the same idea in your child if not through religion?

cornelboy:
Tell this to otenearon 😂😂
So which of the critical thinking is accurate, that the universe came by chance or was designed by an intelligent being?

Have you met professor Wellington before?

Well he is the MOST TALENTED, MOST INTELLIGENT, MOST EDUCATED, MOST OUTSPOKEN and MOST CREATIVE human being on this planet but MOST PEOPLE around him don't know about all these fine qualities simply because Wellington is a mad man!

OgaNightmare:
You just deviated from the topic to babble nonsense as usual. You're a living example of an automaton.

OgaNightmare:
Is your brain aware of this comment?
No wonder Courz always treat you guys as the morons you are. I thought he was on the extreme but this just proved he's right.
You're a disgrace to adulthood, I wonder the type of children you'll end up raising.

You don't have a problem Sir it's me that's my own problem so forgive me Sir God will always give you more knowledge and wisdom to deal with all your enemies!

tctrills:
You really have an English problem. You don't even understand the meaning of the words you used. Pls stop embarrassing yourself. And stop being lazy. Use your dictionary and learn.

tctrills:
Are you sure you want to start this topic. Tell me so I can shame you.

Now the source of your problem has become obvious, you're not ready for wisdom rather you're looking for people to shame no wonder you keep arguing blindly just to feel good.

It's OK, please don't shame me i'm begging you!

Janosky:
Brother Max you finish work!
Max my Bro get Doctorate Degree to express Sarcasm.

I was just trying to REASON with him when i saw the screenshot of his post this same year and i was lost in thought!

tctrills:
Actually, falsehoods can make people from different geographical locations share the same line of thought.

Now you're lying shamelessly because there is no evidence of what you just typed.

Same line of thought means they will all judge matters the same way hence they will never ever fight themselves over judicial matters as they have agreed on the same line of judgment.

Do you know any group of humans who have gathered people from all the nations on this planet and achieved that?

tctrills:
We can have this discussion but let's not get distracted

You're not fit for a sensible discussion.

Because the Bible made it clear that Hell is Grave and all dead people goes there so you're wrong to say:

No one would go to hell for Adam's sin

When that's where all those dead are going due to Adamic sin! Romans 5:12 compare to 6:23

Janosky:
OgaNightMare's doing "critical thinking" alias cowardice inside OgaNightMare's congregation Worshipping the God YHWH whose "exploits are already recorded in the old testament."
Oga Cowardice !!!!!.

NO! His account was hacked back then so he has recovered it because no sane human can type such a thing and still come back to say his God doesn't worth worshiping.

Ọmọ you have to be very careful o, it seems we have been chatting with psychopaths on this forum walahi talahi!

OgaNightmare:
The infinite mind you're talking about is a bloodthirsty psycho worshipped by the ancient Hebrews. His exploits are already recorded in your Old Testament.....which I don't think you even spend time to look into it

So you believe the Bible God is a monster.

That sounds critical enough but do you know a better God that we can place side by side with the God of Israel?
You can't condemn something when you've not been able to present a better offer.

The God of Israel has made a promise and He has fulfilled it today so tell me the name of your own God and how better your God is when compare to the Bible God!

OgaNightmare:
Nope
You already started with a conclusion that there's just "One God" which is indeed a logical fallacy of begging the question, because
the premise already assumes the truth of the conclusion.

With your so called CRITICAL THINKING why not prove to all religionist claiming they believe in one God that it's not the same God?

CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS is not just about arguing hopelessly and fruitlessly you criticize something hopefully to get a better understanding that will help everyone around you. So are you of the opinion that everyone around you are worshiping the same God or you believe the Gods are numerous?
Prove your thinking skill is superb by presenting a unique conclusion that shows wisdom!

tctrills:
Very corrupt fellow

Your personal opinion regarding my faith unless you and anyone else could share the same belief on faith and prove me wrong!

tctrills:
Still in their graves does not make Adam's sin the greatest. The grave is a place if rest for the righteous.

Grave and Hell means the same thing!

Grave (modern day English) Hell (16th century English) Sheol (Hebrew) Hades (Greek) all have the same meaning!

tctrills:
God never said they should have false beliefs as their line of thoughts

That's where you failed woefully because falsehood can never ever make people from different geographical locations on this planet share the same line of thought and work out what is beneficial not to talk of what God actually promised! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Therefore you are the one lost in falsehood as you and nobody could share the same line of thought on faith just as God's only begotten Son begged his father! John 17:22

We are Jehovah's Witnesses so we share the same line of thought that's why we like and share one another's posts!

pansophic:
Christianity by truth isn't a religion but a lifestyle. Going to the church alone saves no one but by total obedience of the Bible's instructions. The Bible meanings are deeper than what we may initially conclude. The devil views anyone who serves God as an enemy. An enemy they must cause to fall into destruction but we need to be wiser than him.

Your bodily appearance matters so much to God as his own. You belong to him and must imitate and give glory to him through your body, even your dressing.

Look carefully at these verses. Look keenly with understanding this time.

Leviticus 19:27 (NIV): "Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard."

Sometimes it's good to have such meaningful discussions with fellow students of the Bible.
So i really appreciate your opinion but let's look CRITICALLY at this verse.
Why this law?
God gave the Israelites this law to separate them from other nations where homosexualism is practiced, as long as the man is with his beard and looks masculine it's hard for him to be attracted to his fellow man.
That's the reason for this law. Today believers know that being gay is unacceptable to God so our dressing has nothing to do with those rules again.

pansophic:
Moreover in the new testament, we were warned
"Do not conform to the pattern of this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will." Romans 12:2

This verse is talking about God's will.
Please we need to know the PERFECT will of God, it has nothing to do with how people dress.

pansophic:
"Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them." 1 John 2:15

Loving the world is by imitating what they do even in the slightest. From how they speak, to how they dress, to what they admire and to their various practices. Those styles speak about the world and are cherished by them thereby makes them to be an abomination to God automatically.

Things of the world has to do with POLITICS not dressing and grooming.
Nobody can be carried away into the things mention in the Bible book of Galatians 5:22-23 simply because of their dress code but once a person is involved in POLITICS he becomes a friend of all those things as you can't say the practicers aren't fit to be part of the society where democracy is in force!

OgaNightmare:
So critical thinking means all of them have to be identical? Are you sure your brain is not on vacation?🙄

CRITICAL THINKING!

It simply means you questioning your beliefs so what stops you from asking why different beliefs if it's just one God?
Or that doesn't sound CRITICAL enough to you?

tctrills:
Because he doesn't agree with you.
Because he chooses to believe the bible and not you

Bible said worshipers of God must have the same line of thought as regards to faith {John 17:22} so present your fellow believers sharing your line of thought! 1Corinthians 1:10

tctrills:
I understand you think Adam committed the greatest sin but the scripture never said that. And no one would go to hell for Adams sin.

Ọmọ, all those dying from the time of Abel till today are all in their graves (hell) due to Adamic sin! Romans 5:12

cornelboy:
Lol 😂
The fact that everyone will die was not caused by God but Adam. We inherited it from Adam. God never planned for us to die. That's why the wicked and unrighteous will die forever whereas God will raise those that do his will on the future to live eternally.

So it doesn't matter whether God love me or hate me, we will all die.
In a nutshell, death is an evil thing brought by Adam but the loving God through his son brought us eternal life.

Hope you're noting that in a notebook 😂😂😂

He just love arguing blindly!

tctrills:
Everything you have written here is false and not backed by scripture. The bible never indicated that the sun of Adam and Eve is greater than your sin or mine. Guesswork .
Again, when you said your errors don't count do you mean that yours sins don't matter? If that is what you mean just know that you are teaching the doctrine of the devil.

If you refuse to learn it's no one's fault!
I've noticed that with or without scriptural references you have sealed your heart never to accept the truth.

Adam committed the greatest sin ever in the history of mankind that's why Jesus was said to be equal with Adam {1Corinthians 15:45} as only Jesus' blood can remove Adamic sin whereas repentance is enough to reconcile with God for our own errors
No amount of sheep, goats, rams or cows can erase Adamic sin that each of us inherited {Psalms 49:7-9} those sacrifices were meant to show evidence of repentance for the sin you commit but as for the blood of Jesus that one is so great that all sin whether Adamic or the one you committed will be washed away by Christ' ransom sacrifice. John 1:29
That is why God promised to raise imperfect descendants of Adam who lived by conscience even though they don't know God's laws! Romans 2:14-15

IAmHim1:
bodies have souls

Where did you get the highlighted?