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jaephoenix:
Please what has the bolded got to do with peaceful cohabitation amongst JWs?

The point is clear:
Jehovah's Witnesses don't carry weapons so it's strange that a weapon carrier attacked the hall of peace makers!

jaephoenix:
PLEASE SHUT IT!
WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN ANY JW BULLSHIT.
THANK YOU

Wèrè!
Are you the one i mentioned?

jaephoenix:
Irrelevant. For the second and last time, I didn’t say anyone should carry weapons. Please read my first post. And the post I clarified my point. I'm tired of repeating myself

What exactly are you trying to say because the thread is against peace loving worshipers!

jaephoenix:
1. Are All the JWs co-habiting peacefully with each other?
2. Are you co-habiting peacefully with me?
LOL. SEE IDIOTIC BEATCH

If JWs aren't cohabitating peacefully why do you think the news that someone killed in the kingdom hall went far?
Did i call you out for questioning?
Aren't you the one looking for my trouble?

jaephoenix:
This guy! Lol 😆
Please what goods have the innocent Ukrainians that has been killed, or the 8 JWs slaughtered in your Kingdom Hall in Germany acquired that warranted them to be killed?
You see why I said going near your Kingdom Hall Meetings kills off brain cells

So is it carrying weapons that will stop them from being killed?

MightySparrow:
They spew nonsense. That they constitute nuisance from door - to - door does not mean they do evangelism than others. The organization started in 1887 and have less than 9m members. How can you compare to Assembly of God founded in 1914 of 60m or Deeper Life started in 1977? etc. They are trying anyway. That other means of evangelism besides door - to - door is wrong is my bone of contention here. Also, to your thinking, they get that aspect wrong. Though they are basking in their decision. They still have a GB, and a leader. They have disciplinary committees, they go to court. They want to tell us, they don't have anything to do with the word system. And that is a lie. They are liars

So you now have the liver to speak with this same person who tried to engage you the other time but you quickly discharged him saying you don't engage atheists?

Ken4Christ:
God's will is that every one should be saved.

So why not relate well with your fellow trinitarian who also claim he is saved?

Ken4Christ:
This is where you have been brainwashed.
But Jesus told Thomas that he has flesh and bones. His new body is a glorified body. And as God gave Jesus a new body, those who are in Christ will also receive a new body that will never die.

You and your fellow trinitarian disagreed.
He wanted to chat with you:

MightySparrow:
Selective obedience to God's commandments.

You shunned him:

Ken4Christ:
You have nothing to say.

If you're not stupid why not agree with your fellow trinitarian who also believe in this your useless tongue first before thinking about JWs?
If your hopeless, worthless, useless, helpless tongue has failed to make you and your fellow trinitarian speak in harmony.
How do you think such can make sense to a JW who is speaking as one with his global family? John 17:23

Emusan:
You lied initially that INNOCENT doesn't means SINLESS.

So when did i agree with you that innocence is equal to sinless?

Emusan:
Children!!! Jesus didn't say ISRAELITE CHILDREN
Stop saying jargons.
Now, it has become THOSE SANCTIFIED BY THOSE BORN by BELIEVING PARENTS.
So not ALL BABIES are God's enemies any more
Cc: achorladey

It's you that's desperately rushing to conclusion JWs no get problem o!

All babies are God's enemies.
That's why we are striving to inculcate God's word in them so they can become God's friend.

Do you understand now?

Once these babies has been taught God's laws they will be blessed just as Jesus blessed those Israelites children {Mark 10:16} don't forget that it's the baby of a gentile that Jesus wasn't willing to heal o {Matthew 15:21-28} Jesus later yielded to the woman's cry not because of the child but for her faith.

So if all babies are God's friends why did Jesus refuse to heal the child of that none Israelites?

ErnestNc:
your were only trained by your leaders to be offensive instead of spreading love

Stupid idiot!
So it's love that makes you call out one religion to antagonize when the others have different doctrines contradicting themselves shey?

Is that how your pastors taught you to spread love?

Ken4Christ:
Let's assume you are correct, that is not the only verse that talks about speaking in tongues. The early church spoke in tongues.
Apostle Paul in his letter to the church said that we should not forbid to speak in tongues.

What exactly is the essence of speaking in tongues?
Because Jehovah's Witnesses are speaking in over a thousand tongues throughout the earth today.
In fact your own mother's tongue you will find Jehovah's Witnesses preaching zealously and industriously teaching using your mother's language!

Ken4Christ:
Even Muslims acknowledge him. The also acknowledge him and trembles. But they don't regard him as Lord and Saviour.
To fully acknowledge Jesus, you must believe and do the following;
1. That he died for your sins
2. That he was raised up on the third day bodily to justify you.
3. That Jesus is God in human flesh.
4. Confess that he is your Lord and Saviour.
5. Live your life to his praise and Glory.
6. Believe he is coming back to take you up to your mansion in heaven.

Confused and credulous religionist, the one and only evidence that someone believe in Christ is joining those doing God's will in the time of the end! Matthew 7:21-23

No matter what you believe it's not going to yield anything until it's put to work! James 2:18-26

So what is God's will?
And who are those doing it today?

Jesus likens himself to a tree planted by God {John 15:1} his apostles as the branches {John 15:5} if anyone is claiming the title of Apostles such a person supposed to be attached to this tree but what if such a person isn't producing the same fruit as the Jewish apostles? Jesus said such a branch is FAKE so it will be cut off and burnt! John 15:6

A tree has two things: GIFTS and FRUIT

GIFTS are the side attractions found in any tree like appearance, fragrance, leafage, strength, height, width and so on. Different trees in the forest do have similar GIFTS that's why Jesus emphasized on the FRUIT because two different trees can never ever produce the same FRUIT.

FRUIT is the product of a tree and it's in this fruit that SEEDS are found to generate or plant the same tree elsewhere.

What are the GIFTS found in Jesus' tree?
They are faith healings, speaking in tongues, melodious songs of praise, large fellowship in number, beautiful worship centers and so on.
All these could be found in other religions just as GIFTS in different trees are similar.

What is the FRUIT found in Jesus' tree?
According to Jesus himself he commanded his disciples to go preaching, teaching and making more disciples who will in turn continue with the work {Matthew 28:18-20} if his disciples continue in this routine they will fetch disciples in all the earth who will also be doing exactly the same thing {Act 1:8} that is what the people living in Antioch observed before they started calling Jesus' disciples "CHRISTIANS" Act 11:26

So Jesus said there will be false prophets (fake religious leaders) forming churches here and there {Matthew 7:15} but how will interested persons figure out those belonging to Christ Jesus? Jesus himself answered:
"By their fruits you will know" Matthew 7:16
Because it will be extremely impossible for any fake religion to produce followers who will be zealous preachers and industrious teachers like he did! Matthew 7:17-18

So any religion can perform SIGNS and WONDERS but if the adherents aren't doing the WORK Jesus assigned to his disciples such a religion has nothing to do with Jesus no wonder he said:

“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’ Matthew 7:21-23

So it's only those WORKING that has true faith! James 2:18-26

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Aemmyjah:
Intelligent Jaephoenix should teach us how atheism will make the world a better place especially in this era where the weapons people are making can destroy whole earth

What they only think about is technology when it comes to human relations atheism has nothing to offer.
So regarding a better world atheists don't have any vision on that in fact all they see is doom because they can't fathom how man can cohabit peacefully with his neighbour!

ErnestNc:
There are no other apostles like the foundational ones.

Speak for your DEAD god and Church we have the likes of apostles in our midst today!

If you don't have their kind in your midst then what is the essence of worshiping?

They're the holy ones that faithful men and women gathered together to be taught by them.

So if you don't have their kind then you have nothing to do with Christ Jesus because there must always be those serving as apostles in the midst of Jesus' disciples! Ephesians 4:11

Aemmyjah:
I already acknowledge him
Your ignorance has blinded you to think we don't acknowledge that
Abeg shift

The fool think tactics his pastors are using to get mugus still works today.

jaephoenix:
Because your views have nothing to do with the questions. Someone is asking you A, you're discussing Z. So stick to the topic

Ọmọ you don't ask people questions and start telling them not to express their views whether you like it or not you came to them not the other way around.
It's madness on your part to call people ask them questions and say you don't want their views!

jaephoenix:
Protecting you from enemies who will perceive you a weakling cos you won't carry arms to defend yourself. Is this lil piece of fact too complex for your Watchtower-addled trash can you call a brain?

If you're not stupid you should know by now that people don't just wake up and train with weapons only to start going after people who are defenseless.
Jesus taught us not to accumulate things that will attract thieves {Matthew 5:19-21} so is it the common thing in my possession that someone will train himself with weapons to come and kill me for?
Why can't you just use your brain for once nah?
Is this your atheism killing your brain cells?
Ọmọ listen and listen good when you live a simple life in places where others like you live nobody will undergo training with weapons to come and hunt you because what you posses is common.
Do you get it now?

Emusan:
Babies are under God's control reason why Jesus said SUCH ARE THE KINGDOM.

OLÓDO!
Was Jesus referring to all babies or Israelite children who has been taught God's word {2Timothy 3:15} and they want to listen to Jesus who is God's Son? Matthew 19:14
According to Paul the only children sanctified in this world are those born by believing parents not all babies! 1Corinthians 7:14

Emusan:
If I don't reason with Bible I can't point out your lies. You claimed follow whatever your gods in Warwick say. That's why I point out what they say to you so that you can see your lying mouth being exposed. Innocent has been PURE, BLAMELESS e.t.c So your organisation was wrong to the extent of citing different verses from the Bible. Or you didn't read that part So do you understand this statement yourself? No! The point is BABIES ARE INNOCENT according to the scripture and INNOCENT is to be PURE, BLAMELESS according to Watchtower. No where in the Bible it was said Babies are God's enemies. Provide the verse of you have it.

If you really understand what the organization says then why are you agitating?
Is it not a member of the Governing Body that said babies are God's enemies that's making you people cry all these while?
So if innocent, blameless and pure means sinless then how come the brother said babies are God's enemies?
You people aren't different from faithless Jews of the first century that were misconstruing whatever Jesus said and at the same time you will stand to condemn those believing in him!

Janosky:
100% spot on!

Ọmọ this thing is really paining them no be small o!
Every tongue raised against God's people has been silenced {Isaiah 54:17} so they're desperate thinking they can use different angles.

Emusan:
You're still repeating this lie even when your organisation definition of INNOCENT was provided.
Who do you like this?

Instead of reasoning with your Bible you're the one quoting organization organization now o.

The Bible never said innocence is the same as sinless.

So while the innocent are killed along with evildoers in Noah's day, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho, Amalek and Jerusalem in 607 BCE babies also were killed by God's executioners so they're God's enemies.

That's the point!

Janosky:
Yet Psalms 21:8,10, Yahweh destroys children of his enemies & their parents. .

SHAME ON YOU LIARS and FAITHLESS Miscreants.
Babies are innocent as you FALSELY claim,yet none of them lives forever.
Babies are innocent as you FALSELY claim, yet ALL of them are guilty of the sin of Adam.
The Bible truth of Romans 5:12, Romans 3:23 , Psalms 21:8,10 & Ephesians 2:3 make una delete am from your Bibles or continue WAILING.

One thing i've discovered when discussing with unbelievers is their inability to see matters from Jehovah's viewpoint.

They have forgotten that Jehovah is a spirit not human like us and spirits thinks differently.

According to Pilate Jesus is innocent yet he still ordered him to be beaten and executed.

WHY?

Because Jesus refused to show his loyalty to Satan's government nah! Luke 4:5-8

So just as innocence never saved Jesus from Satan's government the same way innocence can't save anyone when Jesus' government comes! Luke 19:27

The only difference between the two is that while Satan has nothing tangible to offer Jesus is giving everlasting life to all those who proved loyal to his own government! John 11:23-25

Janosky:
Innocence = sinless.
For their mind ooOOOO!

That's where they're missing it!

They think if someone is innocent that's enough to make him or her God's friend!

Emusan:
They have no shame!
I don't know how someone will agree that Babies are COMPLETELY INNOCENT yet still claiming they are God's enemies.
The most deluded among them even wanted to change the meaning of INNOCENT not until his lie was bursted with his own organisation definition.

Innocence never means sinless!

It's you who thinks innocence is equivalent to sinless not Jehovah o!

Emusan:
So you're not INNOCENT yet you disagree with the scripture that DECLARED BABIES AS INNOCENT.
My question is simple Yes or No!
You know if you're trying to peddle your lies and twisting by those long meaningless story.

Honest hearted and sincere individuals needs to know why God destroyed innocent babies in Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho, Amalek and Jerusalem in 607 BCE.

So after telling you i'm not innocent then you need to know why God still love and save those who aren't innocent like David!

Emusan:
So what your organisation says is human thought. That's wonderful. So you agree that Babies are INNOCENT, right? Can you support the @bold with Bible verse? So you agree that Babies are INNOCENT. I've explained this part. So don't take us back. Story story
Babies are INNOCENT according to the Bible.
True or false?

Not only babies but those who don't partake in doing what is evil but that's not what saves rather it's partaking in the doing of God's will.
So innocence doesn't save anyone from death when God's wrath is coming o rather it's doing God's will that saves. That's why babies aren't God's friends because even though they don't partake in doing evil they have not chosen to do God's will either!

Caveatemptor:
I have posted the facts. It is left for you to check the facts if you want to or you may choose to bury your head in the sand like an ostrich as a typical Christian. The choice is yours but the truth is the truth.

In a nutshell there is no authentic Christian.

So next time don't call something false when you don't even have the original.

Caveatemptor:
I repeat, You are a fraud. I haven't changed my mind.

I'm not asking you to change your mind but just try to show me the authentic Christians at least to compare and contrast.
Thanks!

Caveatemptor:
Wtf are you on about?
What I posted are facts that can be verified. Did Marcion of Sinope exist or not?
Did Marcion of Sinope create a canonical bible before the Romans and the Catholic Church declared it heresy, burned the books and banished Marcion before recreating the CURRENT bible. Read up. These facts are there for your enlightenment and information.

What concerns me with your headache?

Ọmọ you said about me:

Caveatemptor:
Mad Max you are a fraud!!!
And a DISGRACE to Christians!!!

So my concern is when you will find someone who is a PRIDE to CHRISTIANITY at least for me to know how those who are like a PRIDE to CHRISTIANITY does things!

Caveatemptor:
I suggest you start your search from Marcion of Sinope. He was the first man/theologian to create a bible before the current council of Nicaea bible you are currently clutching on to.
The problem with Christians is your refusal to read and do research and in cases where you research your refusal to recognise the truth even if it slapped you in the face.
Your circular form of reasoning prevents you from accepting any truth contrary to" the truth in the Bible ".

For your information before the council of Nicaea, Marcion compiled and created his own bible and his own philosophy of religion in which there were two different gods. The evil wicked inferior demiurge god of the old testament and the loving superior god of the new testament and the father of Jesus.
The church elders and the Romans declared this man's bible heresy and his bible and books were destroyed and burned by the Roman government of the day and the current bible created with more books.
Read up. These things are all over the Internet if I am telling lies but the problem is you reason in a circular way. Any thing in your Roman created bible is true,no matter how ludicrous it sounds.
Good luck.

Caveatemptor:
Mad Max you are a fraud!!!
And a DISGRACE to Christians!!!

I will be really glad if you can find anyone who is a PRIDE to CHRISTIANITY!