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jaephoenix:
Look at my question and reply it. Stop being stupid

You will cry and cry and cry if you don't believe that Jehovah's Witnesses are smarter than your bosses!

What really baffles them is how believers are sound in reasoning when their white supremacists have told them that all religionists are stupid, they are worried that there are religionists who are proving smarter and wiser than them!

What God promised is that the Bible will be used among His worshipers to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons in their midst and vow never to raise weapons against anyone neither will they learn how to kill again! Isaiah 2:2-4
Once that's achieved in any global group then God's will has been done successfully.
That's what Jesus meant when he said:

“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of LAWLESSNESS" Matthew 7:21-23

If you're not able to utilize God's word to achieve the above then your calling Jesus "Lord Lord" is of no relevance!

Myer:
Every written or spoken word/statement is open to confusion or agreement as subject to individual interpretation.
What determines the final interpretation is whoever is considered the Overall Authority concerning the word/statement.

For Language, it is the Dictionary of that Language- Oxford or Longman for English and others acceptable body.
For Profession Jargons, it is whatever book is peculiar to that profession. Lawyers have theirs, likewise Doctors, Engineers, etc
For Countries, it is the Constitution as documented by the 3 Arms of government
For Religion, it is the Holy Book as documented by it's Progenitor/Founder

For JW bible, I believe you agreed that is Jehovah and documented by Charles Taze Russell.
it is not that there is no confusion in your bible, because even in your meetings you share your various views. However, all your interpretations must be subject to your leader's interpretation according to your journals.

As for the Body of Christ (Disciples of Christ), the scriptural Overall Authority concerning the Bible is the Trinity of God documented by various Authors/Prophets as inspired by God and revealed by God.

The agreed interpretation is what is revealed by the God- the Trinity, to the 5 Fold Ministry for the equipping of saints.
I know this is quite much to assimilate at once, but I hope it helps.

1 Corinthians 12: 4-6
There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all.

Ephesians 4: 4-16
There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift. 8 Therefore He says:

“When He ascended on high,
He led captivity captive,
And gave gifts to men.”

(Now this, “He ascended”—what does it mean but that He also [d]first descended into the lower parts of the earth? He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.)

And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

Aemmyjah:
Nonsense
I don't even know which fallacy to categorize your silly story

You know when kids thinks they're intelligent their inexperience will prove them wrong.

He feels carrying weapons or fighting is what protects people but he has forgotten that the policeman and soldier in his neighbourhood has the weapon yet none of them can order him to empty his pocket when there is orderliness so to him Jehovah's Witnesses who are working tirelessly to achieve orderliness using the power of reasoning are wrong!

Myer:
When we begin to quote from the same bible, I might consider engaging in another discussion with you.

I don't need the version causing confusion among you guys the version that's working out what is BENEFICIAL is my choice! Hebrews 4:12

Myer:
When you depend on the Holy Spirit, you submit to God's will.

It seemed Paul and Peter were divided but they were simply fulfilling each other's calling, one to the circumcised, the other to the uncircumcised.

When you understand this, you'll understand every thing that's happening in the Body of Christ cross-denominationally.

Paul was serving under the supervision of a Governing Body where Peter was the spokesman so they all had the same line of thought! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10

So go and agree with your fellow trinitarians as for me and my global family we are doing the will of our God unitedly as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers, our God is not your God. There's no confusion in our midst! 1Corinthians 14:33

DMCY:
Why baba God can’t just delete those 2 people and create another set of humans so the enjoyment galore won’t be truncated

The way God reasons differ from how humans reason {Isaiah 55:8-9} the two rebels has one senior brother who is the real source of their rebellious act, he is the person who accused God of withholding absolute freedom from humans, whereas God gave mankind all the freedom we need except setting standards for our fellow man that's what God said it doesn't belong to mankind {Jeremiah 10:30} because it will surely lead to chaos! Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9

So God allowed Adam and Eve to have children and Satan to try all the system he has perhaps humans can successfully govern ourselves but from day one till today no single system of government has worked rather it's been one problem to another.

Today the last system of government God said He will permit man to try is choosing rulers that will reign for a period of time and later humans will change the government again it's called "DEMOCRACY" this is the last system of government mankind will be allowed to use and God will intervene by destroying all those claiming government and their supporters! Daniel 2:44

So have faith in God what remains now is no longer up to the time God has permitted humans to try their nonsense and Ingredients called human government {Matthew 24:13} soon God will bring His own government that will rule forever that's when Paradise will be restored on this planet to end all the troubles. Matthew 24:14

See you there when this planet becomes like the garden of Eden where we can all enjoy everlasting peace and security {Psalms 37:9-11} under God's government! Matthew 6:10

Just calm down and have a rethink you will realize that it's not weapon carriers that are ruling rather the weapon carriers are used like instruments in the hands of motivational speakers who were voted/selected among the people.
So use your brain.
If JWs say "let's settle matters amicably without resorting to military action" know that it's the only way forward.
Ukrainians have weapons and their people were trained but that doesn't stop Russians from taking over their territory.

There's a West African country called Gambia it was cut out of a West African country called Senegal, go and check the West African map then come back and tell me if it's weapons that's keeping Senegalese from squashing Gambia!

Myer:
It's not mine to settle. It's between Him and God. Only God gives understanding to any one when they obtain mercy from him. At least your Bible teaches that the Holy spirit is the power of God. Whoever is wrong or right between us, it is the Holy Spirit that determines that according to the state of our hearts. I once tried JW but noticed so many errors, I had to leave.

This is exactly the same thing every reader of the Bible will say.
God's Holy Spirit helps sincere and honest hearted individuals to AGREE so that they can WORK together as the SPIRIT of God guides them but once you're unable to agree then it means God's Holy Spirit isn't with you people.
That's the import of 2Corinthians 3:6 which says:

who has indeed adequately qualified us to be ministers of a new covenant, not of a written code, but of spirit; for the written code condemns to death, but the spirit makes alive.

Each of you will continue to CONDEMN one another when you're relying on your personal understanding of the WRITTEN CODE but God's Holy Spirit will help humble ones to work together because it's ALIVE in their midst.

No wonder James said your FAITH cannot help you to WORK together is DEAD! James 2:18-26

Myer:
There's still hope for him. Can't say the same for you if you continue with that JW Bible.

Use that hope to settle with him first before thinking towards my own side!

Myer:
There in lies the difference and great gulf between our beliefs. Your organisation has a different Bible from everyone else. So clearly we can not agree.just like Judaism and Islam until we come into agreement scripturally about which of us is telling the Truth.

Ṣebí you and the other guy are using the same Bible?

Hen nah, go and AGREE with him on your beliefs since you're using the same Bible before coming to me that's using a totally different Bible!

DoWhatThouWilt:
Then never ever speak ill of the men that own your organisation and taught you all you know about God. ediot.

I never knew you're FAITHLESS:

DoWhatThouWilt:
Nothing like rapture, Nothing like christ second coming, Nothing like God ending the world will ever happen. Not today, tomorrow, NEVER!

Sorry for disturbing you!

DoWhatThouWilt:
Say amen to my prayer since blood transfusion is no longer in use. Go to university and gain knowledge you refuse. Your own is to sell books for white men in Warwick. Mumu version 2.

I just discovered you're FAITHLESS:

DoWhatThouWilt:
Nothing like rapture, Nothing like christ second coming, Nothing like God ending the world will ever happen. Not today, tomorrow, NEVER!

So you be atheist, sorry for disturbing you!

DoWhatThouWilt:
One and only but you're having second thoughts on the men who own the organisation? Who released you fron the the psychiatric hospital you came from? You're not normal at all

We are the one and only organization that's practicing speaking in tongues CORRECTLY!

So talk about speaking in tongues and see how we are practically applying it unlike your own churches that you're now condemning!

DoWhatThouWilt:
Say amen to my prayer naa.
wouldn't you like to be interviewed for refusing blood to your loved one on a convention?

How long will you continue to be deceived by Orthodox physicians?

Blood transfusion is no longer in use!

Go and confirm in advanced countries!

DoWhatThouWilt:
I just read what you said in a thred that your lords in warwick are not perfect men. why u dey fall their hand naaa!
mumu! are u having second thoughts on your faithful slaves?

We are the one and only organization that's practicing speaking in tongues correctly so it's you that's having problems with your fellow religionists over the matter now, we are OK!

DoWhatThouWilt:
look at this ignorant Dundee
Go to university, you refuse.
continue selling books for your lords in Warwick.

Ọmọ blood transfusion nah experiment dem take am do for unah body and the thing don backfire so for advanced countries them no dey carry am for head again!

DoWhatThouWilt:
I have warned you don't you dare stop selling books for those men in Warwick. the day you try that, you see what they will do to you.Mumu.

You go cry tire for here!

The one and only organization practicing real speaking in tongues you hate with passion {Matthew 24:9} you failed to reconcile with your own people over the matter.

Ọmọ what else do you expect God to do before you know that you're not a Christian in anyway?

DoWhatThouWilt:
Blood transfusion still takes place worldwide. People still donate, right now in Morocco people are donating blood to victims of the earthquake. I have prayed for you anyway, you will one day watch your loved one die on the hospital bed because of refusing blood. Can i hear an amen?

Uninformed churchgoer!

Alternative solution is what advanced countries are going for now no more blood transfusion Mr church boy!

DoWhatThouWilt:
1800 lies you mean.

Go and settle with your fellow religionists first nah.

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses i'm talking about my own religion so speak about yours.

If you're condemning your own religion leave my own out of your troubles we are preaching zealously and industriously teaching throughout the earth in more than 1800 tongues today!

DoWhatThouWilt:
Don't worry you will watch your loved one die one day as a result of rejecting blood. Say Amen.

Go and make your own PERSONAL research.

Blood transfusion is no longer in use in advanced countries because it has caused more harm than the experiment they wanted to do with it.

Myer:
If the bible is about God and Man and Trinity is an explanation of God and Man, do you still not see where this is going? The word Trinity was not mentioned by you or Max but it was the basis or your argument about Jehovah (God the Father) and Jesus (God the Son).

Please exempt me from your ARGUMENT with your fellow trinitarian, i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses there's no God the father and God the Son in our own Bible.
Jehovah is the father of all creations and Jesus is one of God's sons.
If you have any problem with that first go and settle with your fellow trinitarians, be certain of what you want to believe before coming back to us!

We are now speaking in over 1800 tongues in different countries around the world!

DoWhatThouWilt:
Bible study from your demonic bible?
Envy a group of people that standby and watch their family die because of blood transfusion?
Are you normal at all?
My friend go and sell books for your lords in Warwick and stop typing nonsense.

Out of all the things in the world nah blood transfusion that's no longer advisable in advanced country is your own problem.

Ọmọ go and use your medicine jọọ, your head needs some cooling!

DoWhatThouWilt:
Hope you went out today to sell books and magazines for your faithful slave chilling in Warwick. Continue to sell books and magazines for them because the day you decide to stop they will tell your family members to shun you o. mumu!

Ọmọ you don't have to cry or become bittter the knowledge of God is not automatic you must humbly request a free home Bible study with God's people otherwise nah so you go just dey vex due to envy! Matthew 5:11-12

jcross19:
can you see the reason you are languishing in ignorance! Jesus can use whatever means to spread His gospel!

Says you not my own Jesus.

I know him too well that he doesn't support disorderliness {1Corinthians 14:33} everything he does is well organized decently and by sound arrangement! 1Corinthians 14:40

That's the difference between my Jesus and your own Jesus of disorder!

DoWhatThouWilt:
Shut up there! Mumu!
How many books and magazines did you sell for your faithful slave today?

Now it's obvious you're really disturbed about sound reasoning!

Again this is my answer to the question:

Does God answers the prayers of non believers?

YES! When it has to do with their personal needs. Jesus made us understand that God is good to both the righteous and the wicked regarding needs {Matthew 5:45} but when it comes to doing God's will that's when wicked people are left out, Jesus said they will say their prayers were answered yet he will condemn them because they never did God's will. Matthew 7:21-23

So find out the GROUP that's doing God's will so that you can join them or continue deceiving yourself!

DoWhatThouWilt:
Lol. That post of mine pain you abi?

Come on, i made a straightforward comment but you're the one crying for not having a reasonable answer to the question.

DoWhatThouWilt:
Deceive myself? I am not the one worshipping 8 men in warwick boy!

There you go deceiving yourself when you have no rebuttal!

jcross19:
MInd You , you are not the one that will tell Jesus how to works or who to use for His ministry!

I trust my own Jesus he will not permit a madman to speak of him because he doesn't want the way of truth to be spoken of abusively! 1Corinthians 2:16

DoWhatThouWilt:
Look at this mumu. Always looking for an opportunity to advertise his book publishing company.

Have i mentioned any company now?

Continue deceiving yourself!

AmandaPrecious:
I know you well enough to understand that engaging you in any sort of argument will be an exercise in futility. No be today. Stop acting dumb.

OK go ahead and stop them!