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jaephoenix:
Please reread the first post on this thread. This time with your brain switched on

jaephoenix:
We are not talking about JW views

The topic of your thread says:

Questions for JWs and other pacifist organizations

How can you ask people question yet you say you're not talking about their views?

Thank God i'm not an atheist!

jaephoenix:
Derailer, I'm not asking you to fight and kill another man. I'm asking you to concede that you owe non JW a vote of thanks for protecting you.

Use your brain nah!

Protecting me from who?

My own brothers and sisters in Christ will not raise weapons against anyone so if anyone say he wants to protect then such one is doing it to fight his own brothers and sisters who want to attack others.
So if you're a soldier it simply means you're fighting your kind who still believe in carrying weapons not my own kind.

Do you get it now?

Emusan:
That's why I said an innocent person can't be GOD'S ENEMY.
Are you innocent NOW?

This is where you missed it!
I'm not INNOCENT just like Moses, David, Peter and many others aren't innocent but we are trying to build a relationship with God. So even though we fall into wrongdoing several times due to imperfection we are repentant and God will lift us up because we have surrendered to do His will. Proverbs 24:16

Emusan:
Irrelevant!
Stop telling stories.
Bible says Babies are INNOCENT not me.
So Babies are not God's enemies.

There you go again!
You asked questions but you don't want to get the explanation from the heart of the one you are asking you just want to push your opinion and expect us to agree.
Ọmọ it's not done like that!

Emusan:
The Bible says specifically that BABIES ARE INNOCENT. Jesus admonished His disciples to BE LIKE BABIES. Your organisation described INNOCENT as being PURE, BLAMELESS e.t.c
An INNOCENT PERSON can't be God's Enemy.
Even in human court, INNOCENCE never consider Gov enemies. No! He knows taking cares of Babies demand ALOT. Even human knows this unless people like you.

This is human thought not the way God thinks! Isaiah 55:8-9
Innocence according to the Bible means one who is guiltless regarding atrocities committed by humans but a sinner means someone who has inherited blemish from Adam.

So it's two different things.

All humans whether old or babies are sinners {Romans 3:23} so all of us must taste death which is upon all the enemies of God {Romans 5:12} friends of God supposed not to die that's why God keeps the names of some among dead humans in His memory book. People like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job and many others whose names were written in the Bible book of Hebrews 11:4-34 as those to be remembered for making themselves God's friends out of all the enemies of God. But as for the rest whether old or young or babies they are still God's enemies until they're able to prove themselves that's why God instructed the Israelites to give their children the opportunity to prove themselves by teaching them God's laws {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} when a child shows love for God's laws the child is building a relationship with God but when a child hasn't done that he or she remains God's enemies that's why such ones are killed in the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, Amalek and so on.

jaephoenix:
Another fallacy. Please stick to the topic. We are not talking about JW views

Then what brought JWs into the topic?

Hope you're still with your senses?

jaephoenix:
Lol. Is that the question I asked?
Please eat properly, drink water and reread my question. Thank you

Go and drink your dagogo!

jaephoenix:
Please stop doing trees.
Unfortunately its not possible for everyone in this world to be a JW. So please reply my question. All this dodging antics you and EnemyJah, and now Janosthief employ won't work

Who cares what fools like you think?

If you don't want everyone to be JWs then why are you worried that everyone is not atheist?

Why not just accept the fact that we all choose what we want to be?

jaephoenix:
One Man can cause a war.

This is what makes you people really really stupid because i will never ever fight in support of one man to kill another man.

Do you now see how low your IQ?

Emusan:
Scripturally, Babies are INNOCENT.
And innocent according to your organisation is PURE, BLAMELESS e.t.c
Do you agree or disagree?
Of course you don't need to tell me that and we're discussing the same poisonous food dished to you from that family.

We are talking about God's enemies here not innocent people who are blameless.

David killed Uriah and took the man's wife yet he is God's favourite!

Why? Because both David, Uriah and the wife are all born sinners making them all God's enemies. But out of God's enemies David has developed some habits that draws God to him and show him mercy.

So if you're talking about innocent, blameless or pure that doesn't change the fact that all are sinners and thus were born as God's enemies!

Emusan:
Who will you follow, Bible or your gods?

My Bible said:

"ALL HAVE SINNED" Romans 3:23

So all are God's enemies that's why God killed both old and babies in the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek!

jaephoenix:
Its not possible for everyone in this world to be peaceful. And to maintain peace, you need to be strong, unfortunately.
So please answer the question.

Whatever makes people from different races agree to be peaceful and many like you chose to be killers then peaceful people should be separated from killers.

Ọmọ that's what God is coming to do! Revelations 11:18

jaephoenix:
Don't you think JW would be annihilated if they make up the bulk of a country?
Yes or no. And this time, use your lil brain. Thank you

FOOL!

If the world is filled with Jehovah's Witnesses there will be no more weapons or wars!

That's what you should think stupid atheist!

jaephoenix:
The debate isn't about firearms ownership. Its about you saying people don't just attack others. So don't deflect.
Armed robbers attack you. Same as law enforcements.
As a country made up of JWs don't you think u need to thank non JWs for saving your ignorant black ass from annihilation?

In fact you people are the problem of the world because if everyone is a JW billions of dollars spent on weapons will be used for the benefit of all.
Not when one man is purchasing weapons worth billions of dollars while there are some of his people begging for food in the streets!

jaephoenix:
And youve not seen where countries break agreements? I dont know if you are naive or just plain stupid

When agreement are broken it's just the pride of one single person that will lead to the death of hundreds of thousands called "WAR"
So if one man disagree with another why can't the rest settle it for them amicably?

Emusan:
Only if you have shame and how you're just disgracing yourself up and down. You can't provide where Bible called Babies God's enemies. You can't provide where 1914 was mentioned in the Bible.

Ọmọ there's nothing like disgrace in scriptural discussions it's either you agree or disagree.

I have my own global family of peace loving worshipers so if you say i'm wrong that's your own opinion at least my global family doesn't think like you!

Emusan:
What makes people ENEMIES of God is their EVIL WAYS AND DISOBEDIENT TO GOD'S LAWS.

NO! It's inherited sin that makes humans God's enemies but out of His infinite mercy He decided to help us because we are innocent regarding INHERITED SIN:

"For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23

Means we can't rightly be called God's children or friends it's undeserved kindness (grave) that we have as He stretches His hands to help us out.

So whether fetus in the womb o or old man we are ALL SINNERS! Psalms 51:5

Emusan:
Was Jesus part of that ALL?

NO nah!
His human life never generated from Adamic reproduction process so he never inherited sin!

What is the name of your God?
What is the name of your Church?
Answer then i will consider you but until then nothing for you!

advocatejare:
Coward army deserter MaxInDHouse be a man and finish what you started, don’t be a coward here like you ran away from the army
Who founded the JW organization: Jesus or Jehovah because you people are not consistent!
Show where that is written in the Bible that Jesus or Jehovah found a religion
Show where the name of the religion Jesus/Jehovah founded was called Jehovah’s Witness Organization in the Bible
You claimed that Jesus bought Watchtower from Russell: how much did Russell sell it to Jesus for, in what currency, cash or transfer, the document signed and who are those that witnessed the transaction, at what date?

Emusan:
I know you have no truth in you but I'll continue to frustrate you with the truth.
1 Corin 14:20
To be sinless means to be INNOCENT according to Dictionary.
Check the attached below.
So did Bible affirm that Babies are COMPLETELY INNOCENT? The Answer is YES!
I'm waiting for your next lie.

Check the meaning of "INNOCENT" in your Bible because it was used consistently for many people yet according to God's word we have all sinned! Romans 3:23

So how can babies who are part of the "ALL" be sinless?

It means you've misconstrued what Bible call INNOCENT with SINLESS.

‭‭2 Kings‬ ‭10:9‬ ‭NIV‬‬

"The next morning Jehu went out. He stood before all the people and said, “You are INNOCENT. It was I who conspired against my master and killed him, but who killed all these?" 2Kings 10:9 NIV


Ọmọ they don't mean the same thing if going by the word of God: Bible!

See desperation from apostate who said he is not buying what we are selling!

Emusan:
The Bible says BABIES ARE INNOCENT, innocent from WHAT?
AGAIN, Jesus can't admonish His disciples to BE LIKE BABIES (as you rightly said) if they are GOD'S ENEMIES. What that implies is that Jesus is telling His disciples to be GOD'S ENEMIES

Ọmọ if you can't QUOTE where the Bible say babies are sinless it's OK!

Emusan:
Click HERE for Bible study from NWT.

So you lied!

Ọmọ there's nothing bad if you don't know what the Bible say but outrightly lying when it's not written in God's word is evil!

ErnestNc:
It's sad that God has marked you for Damnation.

Funny churchgoer!

Well you're speaking in behalf of your DEAD god with nothing to show not a LIVING God that's WORKING in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses! John 5:17

Emusan:
1 Corin 14:20
So you're blind not to see me quoting that verse since all this while?
Again, you didn't answer my question.
If Babies are God's enemies, can Jesus instruct His disciples to EMULATE THEM?

You know my Bible nah Jehovah's Witnesses Bible perhaps if you QUOTE your own Bible i can see how JWs has been LYING with their Bible.
Thanks!

Aemmyjah:
Even David, in his plea for forgiveness said that he was born (conceived in sin)

Let him prove Jesus' brother wrong first by quoting where it's written in God's word that babies are without sin.
What makes man God's enemies?
Is it not sin?
Are babies born sunless?

They just follow apostates blindly thinking they can say anything against Jesus' brothers!

Emusan:
The truth is coming out gradually

If BABIES are ENEMIES OF GOD, will Jesus teach that His disciples should BE LIKE THEM?



Bible says INFANTS/BABIES are innocent and encourage Believers to BE LIKE THEM when it comes to EVIL.

So this alone destroyed the lies your lying 8 old men in Warwick say against Babies as the ENEMIES OF GOD.



Changing narrations again.

Are Babies/INFANTS enemies of God?

The Bible says No!

Babies are INNOCENT, 1 Corin 14:20; Rom 16:19

Can you quote where the Bible say babies are sinless?
Thanks in advance!

jaephoenix:
Oh really? Maybe you have forgotten(or don't know) the definition of taking orders because you didn't do kindergarten.
Lemme give you an example. If those misogynistic and racist men decide that today, no JW would attend hospitals, would you comply? Yes or no. Please I don't need too much grammar

You're just a fool!

Because each of the agreement is based on what is found written in the Bible and we know is for our BENEFITS. Isaiah 48:17-18

So Mr Atheist nobody gives orders that's not in accord with what Jesus taught!

Janosky:
1 Corinthians 14:20
20 "Brothers, do not be children in your thinking. Be infants in evil, but in your thinking be mature."

The practical applications of what Jesus taught was clear to his disciples, they knew they are to be like babies before they can successfully achieve what he taught them. Mark 10:14-15

Little children always play together as one of them is leading in what each supposed to do and because they enjoy what they're doing they will all unite in making themselves happy yet you will laugh if you're observing them as they wholeheartedly do what each of them needs to do without been paid a dime.

So when true Christians are actively doing the same regarding what Jesus commanded his disciples faithless miscreants will say they're taking orders from those leading in their midst!

Emusan:
So Mark 12:31 was written when Jesus started teaching your lies
So people don't know that they should love their fellow believers before as John 13:34-35 was written when Jesus started teaching your lies organisation
Jewish!!! But you said Jews don't agree that Jesus is the Christ
Idiotic lying witness hallgoer

Name one of your so called churches that were practicing all these before JWs started in 1914. James 2:18-26
Is it that they don't like to obey Jesus or they don't have the Holy Spirit which should help them to PRACTICE what Jesus commanded? Act 1:8

Emusan:
What did JWs know today that people never know?

We know that it's wrong fighting and killing our neighbours because of politics {Mark 12:31} so we love our fellow believers so much that we will always think of their good! John 13:34-35

Apart from our first century Jewish Christian brothers whom Jesus taught directly only JWs know this today!

Emusan:
My storyteller.

Nobody asked you this story

What did Jesus say about HIS PRESENCE from the scripture is the question?

Honest hearted and sincere individuals have gotten the sense so don't worry yourself!

Idiotic churchgoers!

You think faith is all about quoting books and nothing to show as WORKS? James 2:18-26

If not for the ACTIVITIES of Jehovah's Witnesses who are PRACTICING what Jesus commanded like loving neighbours {Mark 12:31} loving fellow believers {John 13:34-35} and loving enemies {Matthew 5:44} anything you want to say about a Jesus is of no essence that's what Jesus meant @ Act 1:8

Janosky:
Brother MaxinDhouse,egbon ekabo Oooo.

Good morning ọmọ ìyá mi!