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Vifx:
So you are inevitably admitted that his message was only meant for the people he was speaking to at the time he was alive and that said message is irrelevant to modern day humans?

With the way people are hating, fighting and killing both their own people and others can you name a modern day society or organization where members have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again?
That is what makes Jesus' message current forever!🙂

Roycemadeit:
Pele o

Better!
Now run along because you can't make decisions for me i'm not your mate!🥱

AntiChristian:
The scientist is ignorant o! Despite all the scientific blunders! One is Jesus calling the mustard seed the smallest seed of all seeds!
Lamba!

So if Jesus had mentioned a seed that's not known to his listeners how would they grasp the message without asking further questions regarding the smallest seed?
And how would you have handled Pharisees who were present to discredit Jesus' teachings if you were Jesus?
Most people don't put themselves in the position of a teacher before condemning his use of terms.
To those listening that day the mustard seed is the tiniest of all that produces gigantic trees!🙂

Roycemadeit:
Yeye dey smell.
Are you not seeing this part?
now try defining belief and faith, and show me how they connect to reality...

Cry me a river!🥱
I convincingly finished you on the point you raised that BELIEF and FAITH are based on delusion and you can't refute the fact that is why you choose to twist it by asking how they are connected to reality and i proved to you that even you with your atheistic mindset will FAITHFULLY do certain things BELIEVING it will work despite the fact that you haven't done it before!🙂

DoWhatThouWilt:
An educated Christian with sharp knowledge of the bible is suppose to know how to discern that a church is evil once they step foot into it.

So it is not by focusing on rumors and negative reports that educated people knows how to discern that a church is evil rather you follow the program step by step, listen and see how it affects the lives of attendants.
Sadly most religionists are delusional due to their lack of discernment to know when a report is genuinely brought to help innocent people or used as a tool to fight a reputable group of people!

Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.

Roycemadeit:
You cling to it simply because it supports the narrative you have already been conditioned to believe...

I will accept your claim of being sarcastic only when you quote one of your previous posts where you used such sarcasm before now.

Roycemadeit:
Yes, you have silenced me, with facts, of course. You can define knowingness; now try defining belief and faith, and show me how they connect to reality...

Have you ever met a believer who made you voice out such words?
If so quote what you said so i can believe you never meant it the way i view it.
If not ọmọ you have said the fact you're just ashamed now that a believer threw you off balance with your atheism!🥱

Lucifyre:
assertion/ə-sûr′shən/noun
Something declared or stated positively, often with no support or attempt at proof. So you have evidence and can demonstrate the universe was indeed created, and it was created by no other god than a god called Yhwh and that Yhwh actually exists? Obviously not - real christain or not. But be my guest, im all ears.

YHWH claimed He created the universe and He is not doing it again and again that's what He did in the past. So for any reasonable person to figure out if YHWH's claims are true it's not by asking Him to start the work all over again since He has done that perfectly {Genesis 1:31} what i need to find out is the things He is doing presently that's as impossible just like impossible things He did in the past!

Creating the planets and other things is really unbelievable but as claimed He has perfectly done that so it's childish asking Him to go back and start all over again just for proof.
An African adage says:
A soldier CLAIMED he killed thousands of enemies at the battlefield and while demonstrating how he did twelve domestics died. If you can't see the casualties at the battlefield what about the ones you are seeing presently?

So my friend i won't ask YHWH to start all over again but watch carefully how He is able to do impossible things just as the things He did in the past.

If He is able achieve the impossible things He promised to do in my presence then i have no reason to doubt the impossible things He did in the past!

sonmvayina:
My village people, we are peace loving. Little wonder why they made it a local government headquarters.....and my mom's village too....both in Delta state.

Your local government where they don't use weapons for protection shey?

OK keep on relating with people in your village while i keep on relating with my own people who live in all parts of planet earth! Isaiah 2:2-4🥱

MightySparrow:
Stay your line.

I have always stayed my lane it's you who keeps on following me and i've told you countless times that you and i aren't worshiping the same God!

Continue deceiving yourself.

You have said it and i will always quote it if you like hit your head on the rock next time you won't engage someone else without seriousness!🥱

Roycemadeit:
When I said, “Yes, you have silenced me, with facts, of course,” I was not genuinely admitting that you had silenced me or that you had presented facts. “With facts, of course” was the sarcastic part, because I was questioning whether what you presented could actually be called facts.

Roycemadeit:
Stop quoting me out of context to justify your ridiculousness.

Here you are.
Oya explain what you meant in plain words because you actually admitted that i SILENCED you!🙂

Roycemadeit:
Yes, you have silenced me, with facts, of course. You can define knowingness; now try defining belief and faith, and show me how they connect to reality...

sonmvayina:
Educational books and videos not mythical books and non existent people.

Can you mention a group of people the so called educational books and videos have helped to cure their insanity which has led people into making, buying, selling and using weapons to kill one another? Revelation 6:3-4🙂

Kemical23:
the fact that your life depends on a story book is a big concern because that is the only place you get your defend....
And quoting the bible to me is like a total waste of my precious time because it is worthless....
And this will be my last reply because I think I'm wasting my time discussing what is not there....

Just say you can't go further because i have not quoted any book for you here what i invited you to do is REASON as in INTELLIGENTLY!
Well continue with your self acclaimed trophy 🏆 but know that you have met a true Christian and instead of accepting the challenge you chicken out!

You can flow on ROMANCE, POLITICS or CRIME other sections but on FAITH ọmọ you must bow to higher intelligence!🙂

Kemical23:
the fact that your life depends on a story book is a big concern because that is the only place you get your defend....
And quoting the bible to me is like a total waste of my precious time because it is worthless....
And this will be my last reply because I think I'm wasting my time discussing what is not there....

Just say you can't go further because i have not quoted any book for you here what i invited you to do is REASON as in INTELLIGENTLY!
Well continue with your self acclaimed trophy 🏆 but know that you have met a true Christian and instead of accepting the challenge you chicken out!🙂

Kemical23:
imagine a young man in this 2026 saying you want to tell me more about the imaginary heaven and hell.... You must be joking, my concern for you guys is that you don't question your slave masters who brought that story book called bible and that's why you are still a Christian, not even a simple evidence to back up any of your claims... They tell you to just believe and don't ask questions but you can question you father who gave birth to you, shelter you, feed you and do all your school expenses..

Of course i asked series of questions before i believe what i learned.

So if you have any question let me hear you!🙂

Lucifyre:
How does this have anything to do with what you quoted.l?

You asked if anyone could:
Defend YHWH with something better than bare assertions.
Of course that is something only real Christians will do!🙂

Kemical23:
mature discussion I never had before that you think yours can be different...
Manchi you must be a very funny person...

I am 100% certain that you have never heard it before so if you are not scared to face the truth let's discuss without cursing or insulting one another!🙂

MightySparrow:
But, that Islam says that it is a crime deserving of death for not worshipping Allah is a thing of concern. Why should I be in danger for worshipping or not worshipping at all?

All Abrahamic religions are saying the same thing if you are not worshiping my God it's a crime deserving of death.

That is what Jesus himself teaches:

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life" John 3:16

Jesus even said:

"Bring these enemies of mine here who did not want me to become king over them and execute them in front of me.’” Luke 19:27

So Jesus is saying whoever refuses to accept his line of thought is deserving death. The only thing we JWs won't do is raise weapons against anyone since he (Jesus) promised to come and judge the matter himself. But that a religion is saying unbelievers deserves death, that is what all Abrahamic religions are saying!😟

Akir2025:
Does God Still Answers Prayer Requests? Straight & Honestly Answer Needed.

YES!
The instances you cited in the Bible are people who lived in different times not events consistently happening as you mentioned it.
So today what you people expect is the occurrence that will happen in the same period.
Each miracle you sited happened some centuries away apart only the case of Daniel and the three Hebrews occurred the same century.
Shadrach, Meshak and Abednego lived as youths with Daniel so the furnace case happened when they were around 16-17 years of age while the case of lion's den occurred when Daniel has become an old man!
So God still answer prayers but it's not the way you people expected!

MightySparrow:
All Christians no matter what denominations or organizations will go to Islamic hell.

Hell in Islam is for all non Muslims and all all Muslims will pass through fire.

Beliefs doesn't matter to me what really makes sense to me is the FRUIT of each religion {Matthew 7:16-18} so whatever any religion teaches is of little or no relevance until i see the FRUIT.

That is why i don't view JW as one of the denominations of what you call Christians because the FRUIT this group produce is outstandingly great so what any religion says about their beliefs remains just a dogma to me until i see what their gathering is producing!

MightySparrow:
Thanks for responding this time. I started to question Islam when I lived in the north and one day, it was rumoured that Christians would be attacked. I was living in an Igbo man's house. The man relocated his family to his village and I shared my own three children into three. Some slept in places with people I don't know till date. Reason, if we were together, they could wipe out the whole family. So, some were somewhere to preserve, if possible, alive. So Sir, in as much as your organization is linked to Jesus, Islam says you are cursed by Allah whether you engage in politics or not. Whether you preach loudly or silently. Whether you practice democracy, monarchy, any kinds. I respect your conviction about Christianity. It's fine only that I don't see things the same way you see them. I was listening to Abdulazeez Ajagbemokenferi, later Yusuf Adepoju, Adegunwa. Now I stumbled on M. S Bàbá, Go Apologea, San Sharoum, Christian Prince. These argue for and Quran, hadiths, tasfir and the rest. I had a copy before and read some parts of it and some hadiths.
I think Islam doesn't respect any denominations of Christianity.
That is my finding anyway
Thanks again for responding.

Muslims offended the guy that's why he is bitter about the religion meanwhile he is against any religion that comes from abroad so i don't view him as someone who is interested in the truth.
As for Islamists we operate in their own countries all we do is study their laws and live by it as long as Muslims don't force anyone to pray all they fight for is to elevate Muhammad above any other prophet and Allah as the true God.
So our mode of preaching in their community is informal in fact it's special pioneers of the faith that preach among them and since we are not opposed to their Sharia they don't see us as a threat.
It's members of Christendom that's the problem because your own people will be telling them that they are going to HELLFIRE for not accepting what you believe and since they also believe in HELLFIRE they feel you are cursing them. Once we discuss with them and ask them if they love God they offer say YES but then when we ask:
"do you think God also love people?"
Most Muslims start thinking differently because it's not easy to convince anyone that the God who intends to roast people alive forever because of blunders committed within less than 100 years is loving!
From there we are able to reason with honest hearted ones among them.

Jesus is not the Almighty God.

There is no Trinity.

There is no literal place called hell.

God will bless the inhabitants of planet earth who chooses to become righteous.

These will make any religionist reason deeply than just swallowing dogmas.🙂

MightySparrow:
So as an JW enthusiast, I. appreciate your zeal for your organization. Bandits, jihadists dó not have respect for you or your organization. They want to take over your headquarters before you re -inherit it in paradise.

I have been ignoring you all these while because you are never serious about faith but if you choose to learn i can still consider responding to you.
Jesus our Master, Lord and King never promised us that we will gain RESPECT of politicians or political groups rather he said:
And you will be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations. Matthew 10:18

Just as Jesus was taken to Pilates to be punished for his faith the same awaits his real disciples because we are no part of the world that's under the control of Satan! John 17:14-16 compare to 1John 5:19

So whether politicians claim Christians or Muslims or Traditionalists we know they are working for Satan's system so we are not going to participate in their struggles which always leads to hatred and bloodshed. Revelation 6:3-4

Islam never started with wars it began when the Jews attacked Muhammad for speaking in favor of Jesus whom they executed that is why Muhammad hated Jews and Catholics who wants to forcefully convert people in all places claiming they are doing so for Jesus.

When Muhammad realized that his own ambition will be killed if he won't find a lasting solution he fabricated the Surah that says his followers should go and fight back but since both the Jews and Catholics were targeting world dominance Muhammad also picked up a ticket and told his followers that if they don't give up the struggle they will win the whole world for the worship of Allah. From that time Muslims formed the habit of dominating the whole world.

So since we are not interested in world politics they view us as harmless group after all we will not vote against their preferred political candidate neither do we protest against any ruler.

That is what makes us different from all other religions. Today Jehovah is using the pagan country called America to fight for His people throughout the earth just as He used the pagan king Cyrus to free ancient Jews from Babylonian captivity that is why America is propagating DEMOCRACY which means power belongs to the people not few elites. Do not think the fight between America and Islamists is against only Jihadists. America started with Christendom oppression!

Walkwithjesus:
A simple way to say it is the Holy Spirit produces one fruit in us, and that fruit is seen through many qualities. Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.

Exactly!

Kemical23:
Even you as wicked as you are, is this not painful and emotional now imagine a god that is so caring and loving...

You are looking at this matter from the wrong angle but since you've decided not to engage for a mature discourse i think it's better to allow you BELIEVE whatever pleases you.
Meanwhile know today that the people claiming Christians are in billions but the real disciples of Christ are just a few so in a world of about 10b inhabitants only less than 9m are Christians.
We are not anonymous as most of your religious leaders do teach you that there are true Christians in different denominations of Christendom but we are an organized group with a unique group name that distinguish us from all other religions! Isaiah 65:15
May you have peace!🙂

Kobojunkie:
The argument that Jesus Christ of Israel chose Paul somehow makes Paul an infallible being is ridiculous at best.

Stop saying what you can't establish.

There is no single scripture where Paul contradicted Jesus so if you don't know or grasp what he said ASK QUESTIONS!

Truvelisback:
They didn't get enough lands as you insinuated. They only possessed some lands. And it is why they having issues with lands with other neighboring countries.

The people driven out of Canaan are the same surrounding nations fighting to get back their lands as for Israel they had enough to share among them.

Kobojunkie:
For anyone watching this space, recall that this is what I instead said in my response.
I love watching religious folks resort to twisting and bending themselves out of shape the moment they realize they have lost an argument. 😒😒

You always type nonsense.

Jesus chose Paul and he was always in tune with Jesus but since you don't see Christianity as true religion and you just want to type feeling left out as you don't want to have anything to do with religion yet you can't keep your hands away!

sonmvayina:
1. How did life begin?
Life began when the male essence and the female essence of life came together...
2. Why are we here?
We are here to experience life.
3. Why do innocent people suffer?
That's life, you experience both the good and the bad. So as to have a balance feel of life...
4. What happens when someone dies.
Their body is buried and their spirit returns to God waiting for another opportunity.
5. Why is there so much war?
Because war is profitable
6. What happens to the earth in the future
It will be empty and we all move on to a new dimension the 4D ....

Where can we find your answers?

It is not FRUITS as in many but FRUIT which is just one!

This single fruit has many attributes that is what Paul listed for Christians in Galatia.


But the FRUIT of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. ‭Galatians 5:22-23 NIV‬

You already know the answer!

In this world there are questions we all need to find answers to like:

*How did life begin?

*Why are we here?

*Why do innocent people suffer?

*What happens when a person dies?

*If everyone wants peace, why is there so much war?

*What will happen to the earth in the future?

No school of thought can answer these questions except the one and only true religion. Whoever has answers to these questions will surely become a blessing in his or her neighborhood {Matthew 5:9} because unlike the hopeless such individuals will not be overly anxious about whatever life brings! Matthew 6:33-34

Why do you like arguing aimlessly? 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

Instead of this endless argument why not mention the name of your own church and ask anyone who wants to argue in the name of Christ Jesus to do the same?

The fruit of faith is enough evidence to prove you have the truth! Matthew 7:16-18

Kukutente23:
1. What makes you think the epistles of Paul that we have today are not genuinely from Paul? Do you have any fact to back that up or it's just your puerile imagination?

Here are two other versions of English bible in today's English if the older English is too difficult for you to understand. Read and digest. Don't rush to comment just because you have data

English Standard Version
15And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.

Contemporary English Version (CEV)
15Don't forget that the Lord is patient because he wants people to be saved. This is also what our dear friend Paul said when he wrote you with the wisdom God had given him. 16Paul talks about these same things in all his letters, but part of what he says is hard to understand. Some ignorant and unsteady people even destroy themselves by twisting what he said. They do the same thing with other Scriptures too.

AMPLIFIED BIBLE
15And consider the patience of our Lord [His delay in judging and avenging wrongs] as salvation [that is, allowing time for more to be saved]; just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given to him [by God], 16speaking about these things as he does in all of his letters. In which there are some things that are difficult to understand, which the untaught and unstable [who have fallen into error] twist and misinterpret, just as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction

Lucifyre:
Don't worry, you'd defend YHWH with something better than bare assertions next time.

Jehovah (YHWH) has vindicated His holy name globally {John 12:28} but it's just unfortunate that most of you focuses on the world empire of false religion known as BABYLON THE GREAT! Revelation 17:5

Surely if any sane individual watches the activities of this prostitute from a distance you will be irritated and highly disappointed with religion in general. Revelation 17:4

Millions has been killed in the name of religion because of this spiritual prostitute. Revelation 17:6

So when anyone speaks disgustingly about our God we know where such is coming from, it's not just you but those events that has characterized religion in the past!🙂

But today Jehovah (YHWH) has separated His own people from false religion {Matthew 25:31-32} and given us another group name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

I know the next thing that will come up into your mind is bad reports and rumors carried about by agents if darkness regarding God's organization {Matthew 5:11-12} but if you are not biased and willing to investigate you will be shocked to know who is behind all these blackmail.

Please ask anyone who wants to argue with you in the name of Jesus to mention the name of their church after all we all know there is division among those claiming Christians and they will not worship together as one in the same worship center so why are they hiding behind the name that has been defamed globally?

Well the answer to this question will really really shock you!🙂