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You asked a thought provoking question but at the same time decided to exclude the one and only group who are interested in what you are asking.

Well i am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses let's see how you get answers from those who have nothing to do with scriptural truth but their selfish cravings!

FRANCISTOWN:
You are so funny. Have you ever considered a career in a stand up comedy show?
Please read what you wrote again.🤣🤣🤣🤣

That's the truth!
Lunatics always claim everyone around them is insane so what is the proof that they're braindead?
They can't present any better way of handling matters!

FRANCISTOWN:
Your churches also install high end sound systems inside the auditorium for those who have come willing to listen but don't people who are not interested disturbed as well?

Try to visit our Assembly Halls to verify yourself and see how difficult it is for anyone outside our Assembly group that's about 10,000 sitting capacity to hear what is happening inside. Don't forget that we don't allow outsiders hear our prayers so how do you think what's happening within our place of worship should be heard by passersby?

bobestman:
You are a devil and manipulator. You find it hard to break ppl who understand your games so you manipulate things to make them look like a liar. I have always taught you that the ancient ppl are your teachers - Isaiah 44:7. Salvation is of the Hebrews - John 4:22 and what Paul said concerning the Hebrews fallen into blindness which make the gentiles to teach what they don't know. The Hebrews will wake up and teach the world the truth. All this will happen at the Restoration - Isaiah 11:11-12. Only the called out FEW know the Truth and at the Restoration shall they gather. The MANY in religion which is the Broad way knew a little truth mixed with many errors. It can't save any cos it has lies and errors. The Restoration wlll bring the perfect truth

So when was this truth revealed?

FRANCISTOWN:
My former religion was christianity.

As you were erroneously informed and you never cared to study what Jesus the one called CHRIST said on the matter!

MightySparrow:
Hahaha. So Long a Letter.
I had you brother Lett say during Armageddon, no bullets would touch any JW'S members? He said all others would be wailing and nagging their teeth, but you JWs would be laughing at them. What's your take?

First of all what do you think now about WARS?

Do you still support the killing of your fellow believers because there must be wars?

What true disciples of Christ believe about the event of Armageddon is grounded in the Bible:

A thousand will fall at your side And ten thousand at your right hand, But to you it will not come near! Psalms 91:7

The angel of death who visited Egypt will surely visit this planet again but this time it will only spare those on whose head he sees the blood of the Prince of Peace marked as peace lovers and friends of peace!

FRANCISTOWN:
Jehovah witness have always been known since time immemorial to always twist the Bible because how did "roof tops" change to places or worship like "churches and temple".
Don't you guys think before you talk?
You think you are talking to some random kid on the net? Always adding to the context of the Bible. Roof top is roof top. Anyone with even half a fishbrain wouldn't mosnomerize that. Someone's voice who was ministering to at least 5000 men wouldn't be heard in the streets, lol! So how was the 5000 and more hearing him if his voice was not heard in the streets? Religion and brainlessness can be used interchangeably indeed. On the issue of paying your neighbors visitations. That was the commandment of your said Jesus.
Jesus has no authority here. He is not the government, so whatever he had commanded you to do isn't the business of everyone but that of those that believe in him. I repeat, visiting people at home in the name of evangelism is an invasion of privacy and should be liable to serving time. Why should they change my mind? Rather they'll corrupt my mind. Every christian in this world already has a corrupt mind. Whether Jehovah witness or Jehovah business, I don't care. As long as you don't see our ethnic religionists doin the same. Whatever your Jesus commanded is for his own pocket, and for the pockets of you his believers. I repeat, you are intruding people's rest.

So you can't distinguish between the audience who willing followed someone to listen to him from unwilling pedestrians who are going in the streets to their business?

Ọmọ think nah!

Jesus was talking to people who wanted to listen to him so he gathered them in a place and taught them not speaking to the air making noise to disturb unconcerned passersby!

FRANCISTOWN:
Billions around me could be stupid, as long as it has nothing to do with me. I don't got problems.

Ọmọ you have a big problem!
Lunatics always call everyone around them "STUPID" yet they can't present a better way of doing things than the way those they're calling "STUPID" does!

FRANCISTOWN:
Billions around me call on different gods and none of those gods has been able to proof it's existence.

What do you have to say about gravity and black holes?
So people around you worshiping different gods are living proof that there are unseen beings (supernaturals) around you so think intelligently.

FRANCISTOWN:
Anyone who intelligently studies what's around him should know that there is no active god in this world.

I have studied (intelligently) and i've discovered a God whose promises of thousands of years are been fulfilled today by His worshipers. I don't think there's any other way He can prove how active He is than that!

FRANCISTOWN:
Anyone stupid enough to climb a transformer is worthy of death. He would die by his own foolishness, not anyone's.
Now think about this, the direct killings of your God, the flood and Egyptian's firstlings, the Amalekites and the Canaanites. How so many people your God killed. How many direct killings of Satan was recorded in the Bible?
Satan never killed anyone. Your God did.

The highlighted has solved the riddle!

The most powerful person who claimed He is the Creator of heaven and earth sends a warning message to all the inhabitants of the earth that He needs just a geographical location to establish pure worship where His worshipers will stay.

Surely whoever fails to act on such warning deserves to die and his blood will be on his own head!

Just as you rightly said:

Anyone stupid enough to climb a transformer is worthy of death. He would die by his own foolishness, not anyone's

Why did you choose that profile name?
You need counsel first because that profile name means a lot {Luke 6:45} riches doesn't belong to those seeking it {Ecclesiastes 9:11} but those desperately seeking it ends up being hurtful towards themselves and others around them! 1Timothy 6:10

MightySparrow:
Yes train to kill. Killing is part of life.

Killing started with Cain who killed his brother Cain was a wicked soul therefore anyone who feels killing should continue isn't following Abel but Cain! Genesis 4:8

MightySparrow:
Why is there army in any country?

Because of POLITICS! If we're all believers in Christ Jesus we don't need an army! John 13:34-35

MightySparrow:
Why did God allow it. Why did God participate in wars? Is He not a God of peace.

Satan initiated killings and wars Jehovah didn't want it that's why He delivered His worshipers from Egypt without a single fight by any of His worshipers {Zechariah 4:6} to send a warning message to all the nations that He is bringing His worshipers back to their rightful place {Exodus 15:13-14} so it's when the inhabitants of Canaan feels it's a coincidence that Jehovah ordered Israelites to start killing them so just 300 Israelites could kill thousands {Judges 7:1} if those people had feared Jehovah there won't have been any wars or killings. So it was enemies of pure worship Jehovah supported His worshipers to exterminate but as believers Jehovah detests believers killing believers, it's Satan {John 8:44} that's behind such not the true God! 1John 4:7-8

MightySparrow:
As there be no health without sickness; so there is no peace without war.

That's what will serve as a sign that the Prince of Peace has come and counseled worshipers of God {Isaiah 9:6} so that they can conquer evil with good {Romans 12:17} by showing love not only to those loving them but also to those trying to kill them {Matthew 5:43-48} but in their own gathering there must be peace so that a member of Winners Chapel in any country will feel really bad hearing that wars is affecting his brothers (fellow believers) in any country on this planet not been the one going there to kill his own brothers in Christ {Isaiah 2:2-4} ọmọ that's Satan's will not God's! Revelations 6:3-4

MightySparrow:
Can JW's stop nation rising against nations? I don't think so.

Of course Jesus' disciples can't stop unbelievers killing themselves but we can teach any of them who listens that God's son has counseled true worshipers of God to speak in harmony {Zephaniah 3:9} Jesus is coming and all those doing Satan's will will be exterminated {John 3:16} because they're not allowing peace to reign on the earth {Revelations 11:18} just as the Prince of Peace wanted His domain to be! Luke 19:27

bobestman:
You are a brainwashed clown who need serious help. I know the truth and lies in your religions. What i told you is in your bible and still unfulfilled. Not my words.

The highlighted is evidence that you're a LIAR because you've always asserted that everyone should wait until the truth is revealed so saying you know the truth now shows you've been lying all these while!

DyshApp:
What part of the Bible is that?

“When you finish tithing the entire tenth of your produce in the third year, the year of the tenth, you will give it to the Levite, the foreign resident, the fatherless child, and the widow, and they will eat their fill within your cities." Deuteronomy 26:12

So this is compulsory for all Israelites that are fit and working.

Then they took from Moses all the contribution that the Israelites had brought for the work of the holy service. However, these continued to bring him voluntary offerings, morning after morning. Exodus 36:3

This is not compulsory rather it's voluntary so it's used for things that everyone uses in the temple but TITHING are mandatory as it's for Levites, Foreign Residents, Fatherless Children and Widows so that food may always be in the temple for the needy! Deuteronomy 14:26-29

bobestman:
You get time for person wey dem don chop him head but he still they claim to know it all

Ọmọ keep on waiting until the truth is revealed!

sonmvayina:
Did the God of Moses ever say he had a son he was sending as a sin sacrifice? So you see my friend, they are different. That is what I have been singing into your head.. The Jewish God and their concept of God is different from the jW concept and God...That's my point..

You're never consistent with your beliefs!

A moment you will quote Moses the next moment you will say it's allegory.

Ọmọ first get yourself together, figure out what you want to believe about the Bible before thinking of what to say about the book!

sonmvayina:
Do you mean like a cult group ?
No...I don't belong to any..
I just follow God's commandment and statues....I don't need a crowd to do so...
You think he is going to punish me??

Ọmọ everyone around you believe in their personal "CHI" as long as they don't think of hurting others they feel God has approved them. The only difference between you and i is that i'm one of those fulfilling what is written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 so if you're not interested in that i also am not interested in your "CHI" my own God is a God of fulfilment among His multitude of worshipers doing His will.

You can continue with whatever your own God wants my own is fulfilling what mankind needs today so if yours is the god let it do whatever it wishes for those not doing it's will but as for my own God all haters of peace He will exterminate! Psalms 37:9-11

MightySparrow:
Hahaha. No members of my church are thugs. Gentlemen and Ladies.

Are there members of the military among you?
What are they trained to do?
Will they kill members of your church in other countries during wars just as members of the same religions are doing to one another now in Russia and Ukraine?

For your information members of all churches claiming Christians are part of the soldiers in both counties but only Jehovah's Witnesses are trying to save their brothers and sisters in faith whether he/she is Russian or Ukrainian but members of all your so called churches are carrying weapons in support of their rulers to kill their fellow believers! Revelations 6:3-4

Emusan:
Provide Nevers says that.

Why not quote that passage if you're not just deceiving yourself?

Emusan:
"Line of thought" Is part of man made doctrine. You're not wiser than Jesus or the apostles who never used that phrase.

So it's PHRASE you want to see instead of view of first century Christians?
Ọmọ read what Apostles Paul wrote @ 1Corinthians 1:10 and Ephesians 4:3

Emusan:
And Watchtower is also part of the contradicting doctrines like ONE LINE OF THOUGHT.

NO! Watchtower never agree to be part of you people!

Emusan:
You are not Jesus, leave that to Jesus to decide. And JWs is also part of the contradictions. No! But I know they don't believe in Jesus Christ of Nazareth and no Christian denominations that don't believe in the key message of Jesus
That is why you call it CLAIMED but you yourself know it's not TRUE.
But you just want to argue for WTBS not what the Bible actually say.

If Jesus said his disciples will have be united so if there's no unity then they don't believe in Jesus.
Jehovah's Witnesses organization are not part of your contradictions that's why we stand out never part of you people neither do we pretend worshipping nor pray hypocritically with you people. John 17:8-9
Muslims claims just as you people also claim!

Emusan:
And where was Bible say people will do research?

Proverbs 2:1-5

Emusan:
And I asked which truth did Russell find that was not already known by people before him?

That true Christians must have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1 Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} not contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines! 1Corinthians 14:33

Emusan:
What Jesus prayed for is unity.

So are the churches of Christendom united in their faith?
If so why contradictions?
Don't forget that the only reason why you're trying to argue is because Muslims don't bear the same tag with you people but when it comes to claims they surely say they believe in God and in Jesus!

Emusan:
It's the fact!

From your point of view but from my point of view Kumuyi wasn't making any research with any group so he was looking for how to start his own business while Russell was making the research with a group of people to find the truth that's why one has successfully removed the use of weapons from the heart of members so that brothers in Christ won't lift up weapons against themselves while the other only gather gullible churchgoers collecting money from them and when politics calls members from different geographical locations will kill one another!

MightySparrow:
Politics is the only source of hate shey?

That's the one and only source of hatred that carries others along to attack the innocent there is no other source that makes people carry weapons in support of either sides apart from politics!

A member of your own church will wholeheartedly carry weapons to kill you when politics is involved!

tundein18:
The first Mosque was built in Iyi-Ile in Oyo empire in 1550, which was more than 200 years before Usman Danfodio’s Jihad took off in Northern Nigeria. The new house of worship, Mosque, was built in Iwo in 1655, while Iseyin and Lagos shared the luxury of the new architecture in 1760 and 1774 respectively.
https://www.yorubaness.com.ng/2022/06/history-how-islam-got-to-yoruba-land.html

You're right!

I just confirmed from a reliable source!

Thanks for the info.

tundein18:
yes. kanuri and hausa already knew before that. Even in yorubaland the first mosque was built in 1550. Don fodio wasnt born until 1754

Any link to this info?

I studied Yorùbá history and according to our history the first time our people got in contact with Islam was through the Fulanis in the days of Àfọ̀njá (Ìlọrin warlord) who connived with Alimi (Fulani warlord) to liberate himself and his people under Ọ̀yọ́ empire!

Icuib4cu:
Christians in the house, your inputs are needed for clearer views.

The freewill given to man is for him to do whatever he likes so far he's alone with his own pets (animals) but when it comes to dealings with fellow humans man must rely on the standards set by God otherwise he may turn himself to god over his fellow human setting standards for right and wrong.
That's what the fruit of knowledge of good and evil means! Genesis 2:17

MightySparrow:
Jesus Himself payed taxes and obeyed civil laws. He was charged to Pilate 's court, He went there.

None of Jesus' apostles participated in politics because he didn't get involved in politics that's why LOVE was possible in their midst {John 13:34-35} among politicians they can't do without hating one another to death and Jesus commanded his disciples to love their neighbours as themselves.
So if politicians demands anything from us we will give them {Matthew 5:41} but our participation they will never have! John 6:15

MightySparrow:
You should form a kingdom known as Jehovah's Witnesses Kingdom like the Basilica, I will be glad to pay you a visit there.

Do you (truly) believe in what Jesus of Nazareth taught?

Because i've been quoting him so i wonder why you're suddenly turning Jesus' statements on Jehovah's Witnesses as if only Jehovah's Witnesses must follow Jesus' wise counsel!

Emusan:
Like founder like follower

Russell and Kumuyi are not Christians QED

OK if that's what you want to believe!

Emusan:
Liar!
Those four point are core belief of any Christian.
So come with another lie.

So if they all believe th same thing about Jesus of Nazareth who said his own disciples will have the same line of thought {John 17:22} why abusing, insulting and cursing one another nah?

Emusan:
Provide your evidence.

There's contradictions on what to believe among them!

Emusan:
Truth can never be found in you.

So there's no need asking questions just drop your own comment about Kumuyi and leave!