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Honchoslim16:
Just lol 😂 😂 😂
I think say you wan talk sh!t.... Make i run give you your size 😂😂

Wise people have learned how to conquer evil with the good! Romans 12:17

So instead of allowing frustration to speak through our mouths we speak consolingly to frustrated souls!

Honchoslim16:
Calm down.... Stop running to drop quick comment!
Who's telling you to convert to Atheism or become agnostic.........there's no Atheist or agnostic or irreligious person telling you to convert.
They only let you know they aren't scared of your Sky daddy and also let you know your beliefs are illogical!
By the way, I used to be a Christian... Now I'm agnostic!
So if I'm to talk about religion, I'd definitely talk of the religion i used to be a part of and have good knowledge of (which is Christianity)
There are several Muslims who are now Atheists or Agnostics, they can give a better view of Islam errors!

Of course you can share your views about what your neighbour believe without insulting them after all you're just trying to be liberal not judgmental!

tundein18:
No it didn't. The bornu empire (Kanuri) were already converted to islam well before fulani jihad started. Same with Kano. Fulani jihads started in 18th century but kanuri (bornu) embraced islam in the 11th century and kano in the 13th -15th.

Who is Usman Dan Fodio and are there Muslims before he came to Nigeria?

MightySparrow:
I agree with you. I will tell them. I am not politician myself because I personally dislike politics. Whoever wills, that is not a problem to me. However, I don't share your opinion and that of JWs that there should be no form of leadership to coordinate the affairs of nations and the world.

Of course there should be but we are no part of them! John 17:16

tundein18:
there's no need to lie. there was no Christianity in west Africa before Europeans. Islam was there however

Islam came through the Fulanis before they came there was no Abrahamic faith in Africa!

MightySparrow:
Good.
I advise all Christians to withdraw from politics from their families to United Nations.

Whoever is in politics can't be a Christian because both sides aren't doing the will of the same Master.
Politicians are doing the will of Satan who is the prince of this world {John 14:30} he showed Jesus all the Kingdoms of the earth and promised Jesus if he will worship him {Luke 4:6-7} that's why the scriptures called Satan "the god of this world" {2Corinthians 4:4} under whose control are all the rulers! 1John 5:19

That is why no true Christian can be found in worldly politics! John 17:16

FRANCISTOWN:
Just incase you don't know.
I was once on my way to the seminary.
I was a member of the evangelism unit in many denominations.
I've been to all kinds of churches including JW.

Only white garment churches, I never attended.

I've read the Bible more than the usual .
If anyone's misinformed here. I'm glad to let you know that you are the one

Says someone who can't figure out why billions around him are thinking of worshiping some higher intelligent beings.

Ọmọ there's a sharp difference between going to places of worship and intelligently studying what is happening around you!

FRANCISTOWN:
Bring out any bible verse to counterattack what I've posted. Now from whom do I ask from? The same person who didn't know those verses were in the Bible? Also, what did I need to ask? Isn't that written in plain English language that even kids understand. In addition, bring out where the bible says "Jesus never bothered people with noise."
Even at his death, he was still shouting. "Eli Eli...."

According to the scriptures Jesus' voice is not heard in the streets:

"He will not quarrel nor cry aloud, nor will anyone hear his voice in the main streets" Matthew 12:19

So when he told his disciples to make what he told them known publicly {Matthew 10:27} he was talking about their meeting place of worship like the Temple and Synagogues where everyone can hear what Jesus told them in secret but to start disturbing neighbours with noise is totally unchristian.
WHY? Because from the time of Moses till John the baptist all what those prophets are saying could only be found in the commandments God gave the Israelites which has nothing to do with others nations so that's why their prophets always shout in their streets since what they're saying is like a reminder of their nations constitution.
But now that Jesus is commissioning Christianity they're to take this to other nations where people haven't heard about their God or His commandments before, that's why they must pay their neighbours uninvited friendly visits, ask for permission before speaking! Matthew 10:11-13

FRANCISTOWN:
You guys use very high sound systems. You disturb the whole neighbourhood with your vigils, disturb movement with your crusades and retreats. Go to shimawa Redemption camp, go to otta. The traffic there is genocidal.


Some years back, a man was taking his labouring wife to the hospital and got caught up in the RCCG holy ghost meeting traffic. In short, the woman died in labour while still in that traffic.

Also at RCCG, a little boy of about 10yo also got hit by one of the excavators and the boy is deformed until this day

They are not following what Jesus instituted my friend, rather they're calling for customers instead of going from house to house to speak with people so that they can answer questions having to do with their religion they just want to stay in one place throwing words at people like atheists are doing right here!

FRANCISTOWN:
Jehovah Witness members that won't allow people to stay at home in peace, at their work place in peace. Ha! Always knocking and intruding people's rest.
And you dared say you guys don't disturb... Please please please, cut a slack

Please tell me how you can approach your next neighbour if there is an imminent danger that can't be seen easily.

Jehovah's Witnesses will come anywhere you can be found, introduce themselves and tell you what they're there for, if you say you're not in the mood they will leave and come back another time but because you hate the truth you want to condemn reasonableness and here you are always throwing insults at your neighbours wishing to change their mind over what they have known all their lives saying "wèrè la fi ń wo wèrè"
Please in what way are you reasonable more than Jehovah's Witnesses who comes to speak with you one on one, face to face?

FRANCISTOWN:
Muslims are not deluded like christians and they don't disturb us with crusades and evangelism. They don't speak in an unknown drunk tongue. They don't say God speaks to them. They don't share exaggerated testimonies.

So you're back to square one: your former religion that's misinformed you!

None of the above is true Christian practices!

MightySparrow:
Agreed, as you always pointed out, the thing about politics is deception. Those Peters and Victorias in politics are merely going to churches to 'belong '. Traditional religion and cultism are no longer popular. Many of the 'Christian' politicians don't have what can change their non - christian politicians have to learn.
It nparọ́ fun or ni.
Anyhow, God has not allowed for chaos. Some people must rule. To separate religion from politics hàs been and still very difficult.

The highlighted is possible but only with Jesus that's why he said about his disciples:

"They are no part of the world" John 17:16

Jesus didn't allow worldly political affairs to affect his ministry the same should be said about true Christians because God's kingdom has nothing to do with worldly politics!

Wilgrea7:
Been a while Maximus. How are you

Good morning my friend, i'm fine and you?

Wilgrea7:
Can a supreme being be wrong in it's moral judgements?
By definition, I consider supreme to be something with the highest level of power. But power doesn't necessarily translate to knowledge or wisdom. So again, can a supreme being be wrong?
If a supreme being says it's right to steal from anyone you see, would that be right? Why or why not? And how did you arrive at the conclusion?

Supreme means most powerful, logically the most powerful person can't support stealing because He has all the power to give whatever you have to the person of His choice in multiple folds without that one coming to steal from you.
Solomon became the richest in his time because the Almighty wanted it so but did the man steal from anyone?
NO!
The Almighty knows how to manipulate things in favour of the person of His choice without such one coming to steal from you!

Wilgrea7:
What makes a god wiser simply because it lived longer? There are lots of people well into old age today that are still not as wise.

If you're talking about experience, what experience exactly has a god had, that makes it qualified to determine moral laws?

After sometimes people's brains grow weaker and weaker until they die but eternal beings are not prone to such so their brains are sharp always the only problem is there are many Gods and one Almighty God {1Corinthians 8:5} so while other Gods can be partial the Almighty can never be partial because He has all the powers and nobody can stop Him!

MightySparrow:
MaximumSide is right. Northern Muslims do not have regards for any religion other than Islam. Shettima' s coming to church is only political. On his mind's eye, all the ' infidels' should be killed. But he can't do that now. He hides his hatred under deceptive smiles.

According to his religion all infidels should be killed but now the so called infidels invited him to their place of worship it's their duty this time to teach him that their own God is love {1John 4:7-8} by lovingly telling him what he supposed to do in God's house instead of keeping it in their hearts only to start accusing him later just as the man's religion used to do! Matthew 7:12

9japride:
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Anyways, I get your point. But the Moslems also worship God in their own way.
Everyone should maintain their lane. Religion hasn't help the growth of Nigeria. All those miscreants promoting hatred here are religious people and still have the darkest heart. Though, I like everyone should practice their own religion and remove politics from it which I know it's very difficult due to the mindset of man.

Politics is the problem not religion!

I was a Muslim before my conversion what i've discovered is that people worship politicians ruling over them instead of talking about what God instructed them!

Morality comes to mind when you're dealing with neighbours, when you're alone inside your room nobody can say whatever you do is immoral so it's when you have to mingle with fellow humans within the community that you must think of morality.
So it's a being who is SUPREME that should tell us how morality should be applied because if you're asking people you'll get more than billions of contradicting opinions which leads to conflicts which in turn leads to wars!

To answer your second question we need to figure out what vital role will morality play in a community.

Well morality will help people from different backgrounds to come to terms on the right standard so that we can all have the same line of thought to condemn what is harmful.

So why must it come from a God or Gods?

Experience they say is the best teacher because someone who has lived longer than you do should be able to tell you where there are pitfalls, so if God/Gods who are eternal truly exist they should know better as in wiser than humans whose lifespan is lesser than 100 years!

I think the STORY of evolution (how life came out of no life) will make more sense that Noah's story jàre!

9japride:
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The vice president is not a baby. I heard he lived in Lagos for a while. He knows was up. It's just that Christians are too soft. Can a go to the Mosque without wearing Hijab?
Except the person is an alien or toddler, then I can make excuse for that act.
It's just a simple thing, respect other's people religion.

Is that place a house of God?

Which God are they worshipping in that place?

The Bible God never told His worshipers to judge people wrongly.

Uzziah was an Israelite king in fact according to what the commandments say all Israelite kings must have a copy of God's law to be written with their own hands so that they may not say "i can't read this writer's handwriting" yet Uzziah was doing what was wrong right inside the temple, but did the God of Israel got annoyed with Uzziah?
NO! It was after the priests have corrected him and he stubbornly ignored them that God struck him with leprosy and that's how he lived for the rest of his life.

Lesson learned:
The true God doesn't get annoyed not until the wrongdoers is WARNED.

So don't compare the Bible God with what they worship in their mosques the two aren't the same unless if you're also a worshiper of their God!

Honchoslim16:
Mumu you don start 😂😂

Thanks for your contribution!

FRANCISTOWN:
Yes! But even your Bible says "were la fín wo were" . Madness can only be cured with madness. Mind you, not literally though.

If you're sincere with yourself go and insult the Muslims in their place of worship because you want to convert them to ATHEISM!

FRANCISTOWN:
This was where Jesus handed the baton of noise making to his followers
What I tell you now in the darkness, shout abroad when daybreak comes. What I whisper in your ear, shout from the housetops for all to hear! -Matt 10:27
And the baton of disturbing everyone here.
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature(including goats and cockroaches, etc)
_Mark 16:15
You obviously don't read your bible

So in a nutshell Christians whose beliefs in the first century Jewish community is a crime will be shouting in their neighbourhood shey?

You should have asked what he meant by that statement because if it's about shouting in the neighbourhood the scriptures will not say he doesn't disturb people with noise neither will he order his disciples to go visiting their neighbours and asking for permission before speaking!

FRANCISTOWN:
If your God existed to begin with. He is not worthy of being loved.

This mindset is of a misinformed religionists who is now claiming atheist!

FRANCISTOWN:
Use Google. The stats is there.
Compare the figures from 2010 to 2023
Let's see whether Atheism has increased or decreased

"and because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold" Matthew 24:12

This is the reality because most feel irritated with the increase of lawlessness everywhere so the love you guys had for God in the past has grown cold!

This is really funny walahi talahi!

So in that Logo you are seeing 666 or someone told you it's there?

Well 666 was referring to Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon, he was 6 feet tall, built a statue 60 fit high and had a parliament of 600 young men who were brought to Babylon taken from different nations back then.

So what has this got to do with mankind today?

The world has known seven world powers throughout mankind's history after the fall of man in the garden of Eden.

Adam and Eve chose to become rulers (Gods) over their descendants but they died in the process ever since then humans have been trying to establish themselves as rulers over their fellowman {Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9} that's the original sin!

The first world power was Egypt followed by Assyria then Babylon then Persia then Greece then Rome and today it's England and America (Anglo-America) that's ruling over the world while the Eastern world are planning to take over from them.

Different system of government has been introduced before Democracy which is the one the world is propagating today, but ever since man has been ruling over man the first king to merge politics with religion is Nebuchadnezzar he introduced what is called the National Anthem that the whole world is practicing today! Daniel 3:1-5

Ever since then all other world powers after Babylon has taken politics to the next level: merging it with religion so the time is coming and it's now when people will start killing one another over political ambitions thinking they're doing God's will {Revelations 6:3-4} by the time it reaches the peak the world power will introduce one world religion but before then nobody can do any business what billions of dollars without having any dealings in politics! Revelations 13:17

9japride:
He could have respected the Christian faith. It's just that simple, I don't know why anyone will support this act. Can someone go to the Mosque and dress anyhow? Everything mustn't be about di¢k measuring.

The truth is that most people claiming Christians don't know anything about Jesus of Nazareth neither do they know the standard of the Bible God!

Take for instance before inviting someone to the place of worship for the first time the God of Israel told His worshipers to inform such a person fully about His dos and donts.
WHY?
Because He will be indignant towards you who is bringing a stranger to Him without telling such stranger His likes and dislikes! Proverbs 28:9
Jeremiah a Jewish prophet wanted to pray in behalf of the Jews but this God told Jeremiah not to direct such prayers to Him {Jeremiah 11:14; 14:11} rather Jeremiah should go and tell his people to do as God instructed instead of praying in behalf of disobedient people.
Jesus of Nazareth followed the same pattern {Matthew 5:17} before praying with his followers for the first time he made sure that he has passed all necessary informations about what God told him {John 17:8-9} but today most churchgoer claiming Christians just expect everyone to conform to their mode of operations without even telling them reasons why. Definitely they're not worshipping any God rather they're after man-made doctrines {Matthew 15:8-9} because if what they're doing is for God they should follow the steps set by God instead of doing as they feel then judging their neighbour who came to pay them a visit in good faith!

FRANCISTOWN:
It has passed delusions. It's now madness

The same thing they're thinking about you!

So two wrongs can never make a right!

Roger3D:
I don't care to convince you just to convict you

So what's the difference between you and Boko Haram?
You people often blame others for intolerance yet you're doing exactly the same thing, we all have freewill to decide whatever beliefs of our choice that's why Jesus of Nazareth will forever remain the most wonderful counselor of all times {Isaiah 9:6} he said the best way to solve this matter is by taking the time to pay uninvited friendly visit to your neighbour {Matthew 10:11-13} then you can introduce yourself after which you start a conversation on the matter of who should be the supreme authority (GOD) that'll be setting standards for all humans.

So if you just wake up and start throwing insults at people claiming you're convicting them remember that they're free agents just like you therefore if you can't figure out a liberal way to approach them you have no moral right to force your opinion on them!

MindHacker9009:
That's what the Roman empire who invented the New Testament told you. Event the two geneologies they gave are not the same and not that of Mary but of Joseph. The Jews don't know Mary other than the one the Roman empire invented and told them.

Guy how many notable people in our society knows poor humble young girls getting married to common men like carpenters and bricklayers?

Of course nobody knew Mary nah but people in Jerusalem can't deny Jesus of Nazareth because of the mighty works he performed in their midst, what most will say about him is that he's a magician but that he never existed ọmọ that one nah lie!

FRANCISTOWN:
Recently about a month ago.
A man was arrested in the streets
of U.K for open evangelism.Why
didnt the officer pardon the
man because he was about his
business for "The God they believe
in".

You guys just form your opinions on the false religions that misinformed you!

Jesus never taught his disciples to disturb their neighbours with noise {Matthew 12:19} so that man is not one of Jesus' disciples!

Gajagojo:
Shut up

So in a nutshell Shettima never offended you you're just judgmental!

Jogs1900:
I'm not in support of this but it's either the church or Shettima that was at fault.

Shettima is a guest so it's the duty of his hosts to tell him what their god requires!

Gajagojo:
You are silly
When they go to Mecca to stone their devil do they wear hats? If you go to.a person's house you notice no one wearing shoes you don't need to be told to remove yours
When southerners go to Kano they adjust
He was a banker in Lagos for years
This is not about where he was raised
When he entered the church his eyes were open
He is not blind
So do not Tell me rubbish

Mr Church,
Jesus of Nazareth didn't teach his disciples to be quick in judging others {James 1:19} because everyone makes mistakes! Matthew 18:21-22

Nobody can judge this man until he rejects correction!

Gajagojo:
If you have something to say say it
Telling me what I understand or don't understand shows you lack wisdom and manners. Your comment is foolish. I am not interested in reading his mind as you suggest
The point is his behaviour which is offensive especially in the context of NIgeria

The man from Nazareth (Jesus Christ) said to his disciples:

“All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them. This, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean." Matthew 7:12

Would you like to be corrected or accused when you did something wrongly in the house of your host?

That's how to read people's mind instead of judging them, had it been someone corrected him and he insisted on wearing his cap that's the time you can verify that he did it intentionally apart from that you're judging your neighbour wrongly.

So love your neighbour as yourself! Mark 12:31

Gajagojo:
Saraki in Church

Gajagojo:
Tinubu in Church

How can you compare people who were born and raised among you with someone who is not familiar with your religion?