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paxonel:
Your outreach are always counterproductive.
Your targets are never Muslims, Atheists, Hinduists, Bhuddists and every non Christians to win souls for Christ. Rather, your targets are always fellow Christ'ians who belong to other denominations. This is how Paul did his outreach Acts 17:17 Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him.
He will go straight into the synagogue.
You know what synagogue was?
It was the worship place of Judaism, just like the mosque.
No wonder Jesus, Paul and the martyrs were killed.

Definitely you don't even understand what the synagogues stands for!
Synagogues are worship centers where Jews meet for their sacred service to God, it stands as the religion of Jews where the name of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is sanctified not mosques where they worship an Arabian god. If we're to go by your analogy Jesus and Paul aren't supposed to go into the synagogue to convert anyone because the Jews their are worshiping the same God that Jesus and Paul want to preach!
That's why they were attacked by their own people (Jews) not idol worshipers {Act 14:2} Christ and all those killed in the first century were killed not by idol worshipers but by their own people (Jews) who supposed to be worshipers of the same God of Abraham!
So you need to be enlightened on this matter.

paxonel:
But all you winners
All you Christ embassy
All you Jehovah witness
All you deeper life
All you rccg etc
And some will do alter call inside church saying they are winning souls, nor be juju be that? How many Muslims, Traditionalists, Hinduists, Atheists person dey see inside church?
Scammers!
Ya all are joking when it comes to outreach, you ain't no doing the real thing but eye service so that people will not get talking that you are not following the footsteps of Jesus, Paul and the early Christians.
Ya'll ain't sincere

We Jehovah's Witnesses strongly believe that if you're not one of us then you are not a believer in our God so no matter the religion you belong to we will preach our God to you that's why we go from house to house and door to door except worship centers belonging to other religions, as long as you're human we must preach the kingdom of God to you.
The secret is that none of you understand what God's kingdom means, you people always say you're going to heaven whereas the kingdom of God according to Jesus will come to the earth! Matthew 6:10
That's why you people fight and kill your fellow believers in your God while we show love to everyone {Matthew 5:43-48} instead of killing we have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone in the name of politics or racism {Isaiah 2:2-4} but what of you people?
When politics and racism calls you people will carry weapons claiming you're defending your country and the next thing is killing indiscriminately even if the person from the other countries is your fellow church member you will kill him.
That's what Jesus commanded us never to do in fact we must be prepared to die for our fellow believers if the need arises {John 13:34-35} so in what way are you people believers in Christ Jesus?
That's why we can never ever count you people as believers in Christ!

Ken4Christ:
You are in the dark. You will never understand spiritual things. Apostle Paul is narrating his vision. He was caught up to heaven and you are asking me when did it happen? Are you saying that Paul or the Bible is lying. He came back from the experience and he put it down in writing. So many others in the present world we are living in have had similar experience.
Read the encounter of Mary Baxter who was caught up to heaven. Heaven is real. When you die in Christ, your spirit goes there. But if you don't have Jesus, it goes to hell. This is the simple truth that Jehovah Witness is denying and brainwashing millions of people slain from the foundation of the world. I feel sorry that you are one of their victims.

God's servants in ancient times have seen visions of what is happening in heaven but that doesn't mean they went there!

Emusan:
The burden is on you to provide the proof since you're so sure of it. Besides, I don't criticized any church but only rejected man made doctrines being pushed.

So out of all the religions claiming believers in Christ with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines only Jehovah's Witnesses have man-made doctrines while thousands of others are biblical doctrines shey?
Thanks for your time!

Emusan:
Is that answer to your false accusation?

I can quote up to 50 posts where you criticized Jehovah's Witnesses.
So quote just one where you criticized any other church apart from Jehovah's Witnesses!

Ken4Christ:
Explain the passage below to me
2nd Corinthians 12:2-4
2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth such an one CAUGHT UP TO THE THIRD HEAVEN.
3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth
4 How that he was CAUGHT UP INTO PARADISE, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
Notice, Paul said he did not know if it was in his body or out of his body. The first means his total man was caught up. The second is his spirit man.
Please, try to start Bible lessons again. I will teach you free of charge.

Misinformed churchgoer, Jesus died and spend three days in the grave before resurrection so when did Paul travel to heaven after his death?

MindHacker9009:
You have been brainwashed to the stage that even your invented messiah canot reverse the damage the brainwashing has done to you.
Better to just be showing you what's going on in the place that has brainwashed you.

So you've resort to cheap blackmail shey?

Well your Jews should fulfil what God promised in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 else they're nothing but faithless miscreants!

FRANCISTOWN:
🤣🤣🤣I have nothing more to say to you

Good!

DyshApp:
I agree to that, they are ever so active may God help their ministries

The true God has already answered because when Jesus was commissioning this movement known as CHRISTIANITY today his disciples were confused as in devastated.

WHY?

They knew from the scriptures that the Christ will establish a New Covenant and only Jews will be actively doing what the New Covenant says so that people of all other nations can benefit through the active preaching and teaching of Jews! Zechariah 8:23

But instead of the Jews to rejoice for having the Christ in their midst they were demanding what is not to be done hastily: they wanted the Christ to take over the world's government and most especially overthrow Rome that's dominating them at that time.

So because Jesus told them it's not the time to do that that rejected him and treated him with contempt the same way they've always done with faithful prophets of old {Matthew 23:37-38} that's why Jesus told them that the kingdom has been taken away from them {Matthew 21:43} the Jews became so enraged that they made a decree to expel anyone who profess faith in Jesus. John 9:22

So Jesus disciples asked him:

“Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27

Now this was Jesus' response to them:

“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life. Mark 10:29-30

Let's leave out the everlasting life for now since that will come later but let's focus on someone having families throughout the earth and lots of satisfying works to do in the ministry without expecting material gains.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses have this today so if we are to go by what Jesus told his faithful disciples God has blessed the ministry of Jehovah's Witnesses!

GodSaklek:
Great,let start from nairaland here,there is two threads here,one was written by otem while the other was just a wide discussion by vivian and other,let start from otem writtens that talk about the real begining of the earth,the first page may be funny,but u will deeply confused by the time u read up to 10 pages,just take ur time and read everythng carefully and under stand better,u wil see all the answers u may be looking for. Contact me when u are done with otem confession,then i wil link u with vivian,then others... I wil later mention u in otem thread,then u go to first page to start reading

Obviously you didn't get the sense of what i'm asking you!

I don't need stories but actions taken by those having to do with what is found in your fairy tales

For instance Jesus of Nazareth said:

"But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8

So forget about what is written in books because humans can fabricate false stories like Harry Potter and make it seems real but no human or group of people no matter how intelligent they are can create a myth whose words will be active thousands of years after the fabricated story.


Do you think Peter Obi is a real person?

Think of 300 years from now and all you would have about him will be found in story books but what can anyone say after 500 years that OBEDIENTS are still talking about the legacies left by this Anambra man?
Even though he dies without becoming the president of Nigeria nobody can deceive those who live 500 years after Obi is no more that he was a fabricated story while OBEDIENTS are everywhere adhering to the legacies of Peter Obi.

So instead of telling stories why not present a living proof of what you're saying?

For your information Jehovah's Witnesses are zealously preaching and industriously teaching in all the earth what Jesus commanded and millions are acting on it now! Isaiah 2:2-4

MindHacker9009:
Yet with your invented messiah Abeokuta where you are based and all third world countries following your invented messiah cannot do 1% of what China is doing.

Technology is part of the things God wanted humans to discover all by themselves that's the meaning of this statement:
Further, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28
The phrase subdue the earth means discover things on it which includes technology so don't expect God to take over the job of man!

MindHacker9009:
Yet your invented messiah was able to walk on water, feed 5000 people with 2 loaves of bread and two fishes

Walking on water means he can control all the forces of nature so we have the assurance that our King can protect us even from disasters that can come from nature.
Feeding thousands with little food means Jesus can make food to be abundant on the planet just as promised! Psalms 72:16

MindHacker9009:
Flew up into the sky like a rocket 2000 years ago when NASA was not heard about and your invented messiah told his invented follows that if they believe they can do greater works than his invented works.

The real work Jesus came to do isn't miracles but gathering of faithful people throughout the earth but you've been brainwashed to think that it's all about Israelites whereas the word ISRAEL connotes "FAITHFUL PERSON" so the preaching and teaching work he assigned his disciples is the work that he couldn't do much but his disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses) today has taken to all the corners of the earth! Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8

MindHacker9009:
So do you mean that with all your belief in your invented messiah you still cannot do 0% of all the invented works he did?
You MaxInDHouse is the biggest clown in Abeokuta!

You only need to ask intelligent questions to get the sense of what is happening, Jehovah's Witnesses have performed GREATER WORKS than what Jesus did in his lifetime:
Jesus only speak in Hebrew but we are speaking all the languages of the earth today!
Jesus only preached in Israel but we have taken the message throughout all the corners of the earth.
Jesus only manage to get 500 dedicated disciples but we have millions today.
Jesus only preached and taught about love among his disciples but we have taken love to all the places where Jehovah's Witnesses could be found on this planet today.
Jesus couldn't take away weapons and vengeance from the hearts of his listeners even his closest confidants but we have taken away weapons from the hands and hearts of millions throughout the earth today!

Ọmọ we have done GREATER GREATER WORKS than what Jesus did in his time because God's Holy Spirit is working with us! Act 1:8

FRANCISTOWN:
Why are you forcing yourself not to be reasonable now.
How would you say Jesus has authority over everything?
Who is Jesus?
Even the president of Nigeria has no authority over everything.
Isn't it madness to say Jesus has authority over everything.
Go to a market and pick anything especially from a Muslim brethren without pay then say Jesus has authority over everything. You'll realise how useless your Jesus is

You guys always reason like toddlers!

The four predominant qualities of the true God are: LOVE, JUSTICE, WISDOM and POWER

So before you think about what God supposed to do reason along the line of someone who is LOVING, JUST, WISE and POWERFUL

It's humans like you that always become unreasonable when they are opportuned to gain dominance over their fellow humans but as for the true God none of those qualities can make Him unreasonable.

So stop thinking that since God has all the power He can do everything NO i've discussed this with many atheists on this forum God is not omnipotent there are so many things He can't do because of His attributes.

When i say Jesus has authority over everything i mean this planet belongs to him now {Matthew 28:18} so when he returns anyone not doing his father's will must be destroyed {Luke 19:27} but he must wait for orders from his father {Psalms 110:2} that has always been his way of handling matters! John 5:30

You guy are really really funny the way you often think walahi talahi!

Ken4Christ:
Paul and other saints are already with Christ. His real self which is his spirit man is still alive. Who will deliver you from the brainwashing of Jehovah Witness teachings? They have so damaged your brain that it can't accept or believe the truth.

Nollywood movies and false religions have finished you completely!

When did Paul travel to heaven?

Are you saying the spirit of all creatures go to heaven? Ecclesiastes 3:19-20

Because according to God's word all souls are in the grave awaiting a resurrection! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

GodSaklek:
There is a lots of evidences,i can show u if u want

Can you mention one?

GodSaklek:
U mean i should believe in faulkin(yeoshua)?,even yeoshua AKA jesus has repent,he regrets his past deed,faulkin is the first person to be born on earth by mother earth(earthus) and murmuh(winged humanoid black god),which make him a giant nephilim(demi-god),faulkin was adopted by his step-father(yahweh),.faulking was later born as homo erectus twice, the first one is when yahweh wanted to send him and jasheb an errand,faulkin was killed by yahweh and he put his seed inside a virgin homo erectus female of israel,jasheb(jonah) the giant anakim was also born as john during that time.
the second one is when he was born as muhammed of arabia. Yeoshua never be born as homo sapiens(us),thats why its difficult to proof his existence in common era.

Apart from the fabricated fairy tales you are telling do you have any living proof to back your write-up?
Note that the Bible is a document not the real evidence that Jesus of Nazareth is real!

hashtagged:
They look great indeed

Our friend doesn't know that it's a privilege to be part of those working with the angel that's taking the everlasting good news to the ends of the earth in our time! Revelations 14:6 Compare to Matthew 24:14

The end will soon be here and guess what they are happily taking selfies which will serve as a reminder when we enter God's kingdom.

Today many are taking selfies just as many were going about their day to day activities in Noah's time and Lot's time but they're all gone now, by the time Noah and Lot are resurrected these people in that picture will show them how they were going from village to village doing the Lord's work it's just part of the things that Abel, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses Lot, Job, David, Elijah and many ancient servants of God couldn't do in their time. Thanks to world's technology we have pictures and videos of how we are doing God's will in this last days!

JooEeL:
God is in nigeria. haha.
The same nigeria that fulani herdsmen have killed and displaced bishops in the north and middle belt like tomorrow no dey.
Same nigeria that sahel terrorists have taken over the highways and farmlands leading to serious hyperinflation.
Same nigeria that is number 2 in global terrorism index only just after afghanistan?
Same nigeria created by your white colonialists?
Kai... When will black man brain work??

God is in Nigeria with His servants! Matthew 28:20

Workch:
God is not a man

If you're sincere with the above statement then why expecting God to do things the way humans are thinking? Isaiah 55:8-9
Most of you will obey human rulers not because you've sat down one on one with them to reason together over the rules they're setting but because they have task masters that will force you to abide by their rules!

Are you satisfied by watching a human ruler on TV screen or hearing them on your Radio?
NO!
Because if you do you will willingly adhere to whatever they say but if you have your way you want to ask them series of questions about what is happening that's affecting you and others around you so it's not just seeing or hearing them but knowing what is happening.
The true God knows this that's why He sent out Witnesses to explain to you just as you will feel honored if Tinubu should send a representative to come and speak with you one on one but you disrespect God by demanding He must come to you in person what you can never ever do to your human rulers!

“‘A son honors a father, and a servant his master. So if I am a father, where is the honor due me? And if I am a master, where is the fear due me?’ Jehovah of armies says to you priests who are despising my name. “‘But you say: “How have we despised your name?” Malachi 1:6

aalangel:
...and you carried Church story to this place of mixed multitude. Why can't you ask the Holy Spirit what to DO?? Are you a Christian at all?

Today the spirit of God speaks to the believers through the pages of the Bible, before God often speak directly to humans using prophets who received the messenges through different means (dreams, visions, angels) but after Jesus has come God only speak through Jesus {Hebrews 1:1-2} that's why Jesus said he is the way, the truth and the life no one comes to the father except through him {John 14:6} but when Jesus is about to leave he promised that the Holy Spirit will continue guiding his disciples {John 14:26; 16:12-13} after revealing the last message to Apostle John {Revelation 1:1} Jesus said there's no addition no subtraction {Revelations 22:18-19} today we are not to expect voice from the spirit realm {1Corinthians 13:8-10} otherwise demons will also join in speaking to humans in disguise {2Corinthians 11:14} and confusion will set in as people are getting contradicting messages from different voices! 1Corinthians 14:33

So God's Holy Spirit only speak to believers today through the pages of the Bible, please concentrate on what is written in the Bible not voices from the spirit realm because each person will claim he/she is hearing from God that's exactly what is causing the conflicting doctrines in Christendom today!

LegallyBlunt:
Your forgiveness means nothing.

According to Jesus pure worship is not a money making venture {Matthew 6:19-21} so if any group of individuals are dreaming of becoming rich through the Lord's work they will end up messing up everything ! 1Timothy 6:9-10

Wodu89:
He's more grounded in scripture and has depth than you. It's clear to see. All his epistales is accurate. Departed saints are already in heaven as we speak. The truest confirmation is the spirit of God bearing witness with us about this.

That spirit is deceiving you, without resurrection nobody is going to heaven!

Ken4Christ:
Philippians 1:22-24.
22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.

23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, AND TO BE WITH CHRIST; which is far better:

24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you.

Apostle Paul said he had a desire to depart and be with Christ. He is talking about his spirit which is the real man. And he has been with Christ ever since he died. And many other saints are with Christ.

But those who die without Christ will go to hell. They will be there suffering torment until the final day of judgment.

Paul will die and on the day of resurrection he will be with Christ not at the moment he died that's why he said:

those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we will always be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:16b-17a

Those who died as born again Christians will rise first and the remaining who are still alive will later join them immediately at death which means such ones will not stay unconscious in their graves for any reason.

If they're not dead they can't go to Heaven:

So it is with the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised up in incorruption. It is sown in dishonor; it is raised up in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised up in power. It is sown a physical body; it is raised up a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one. 1Corinthians 15:42-44

So nobody is going to heaven without dying first, the corrupt body must be sown before the bearer can get the glorious one at resurrection!

FRANCISTOWN:
Your Jesus only has authority on those who believe in him. He's useless in real world

Jesus has authority over everything but until God gives him order {Psalm 110:1-2} to exterminate those who are not submissive, so don't think he is power drunk like imperfect unreasonable humans ruling over you!

MindHacker9009:
The Jews were conquered about 2000 years ago but today they are amongst the world's top scientists and 20% of the Nobel prize winners are Jews. Can you compare any third world country following your Jesus Christ to Jewish communities in Israel or other Jewish communities around the world?

You're really a clown!

People who are into demonism can do all that, China aren't Judaists and they're number one when talking about science the world is buying their products.
What God said about those worshiping Him in our time is written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4
It has nothing to do with scientific discoveries!