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Detongue:
Those taking on d Prelate those not understand what d teaching of Jesus Christ. The Prelate is correct in saying dat Bakare is fighting 4 his belle. It is a shame on Bakare 2 lead protest against a govt. As a Pastor his own is 2 pray, he cannot fight 4 God. I know Bakare has lost focus, he left his exalted position which is d highest calling, 2 a mere protester which does not hv a place in d Bible which he preaches. I hope he will allow God 2 minister 2 his soul

Why do you guys get this warped idea from?
The highest calling is the calling of God into a relationship with Him through his Son. The calling into sonship.
In no way is the calling to be a pastor any higher than the calling to be a doctor or a bricklayer.
Show me one scripture that proves that egotistical idea.
Carnal pastors use such phrases to delude,seduce and manipulate congregations.
How is Bakare fighting for his belle? the same Bakare who risked his life leading protests to install GEJ?
I will appreciate if you throw more light on Bakare fighting for his belle.
All those spewing that the pastors own is to pray, have you heard that faith without works is dead?

^^^^
in a world where Ashravin earns 90k?

Acidosis:
This man is on point. why would a leader of a church associate with thugs? some of you here are neither xtians nor muslim, so I wuld nt want any argument, cos you wont understand. The kingdom of God no be moi moi o, no be by jerry curl and suit wey una pastors dey wear. This man his talking from a religious point of view. He that have an ear, let him hear what acidosis is saying. I pity Bakare trying to "save" Nigeria" with protest, when he ought to be saving souls from hell with the gospel. he's forgettn that nobody would save him on the judgement day. what is happening in Nigeria today is not new to us, I mean the true believers, our xtian fathers knew this over 2000 years ago. It is a sign of his coming. It is better you repent today and get safe.

I am a Christian but i find your view ungodly and shameful.

Ola Makinde is a confused old man.
he does not have guts.No one is complaining for his lack of balls but he should not mistake his lack of guts for Godly wisdom.

la furia:
Our religious leaders are one of the biggest prblm in nigeria. So CAN and sultan decided to stay away  from subsidy issue in other not to turn d pple against the govt but were busy involve in islamic banking matter. CAN president is vocal about BH but never ready to hold the govt responsible for insecurity but asking for war. This prelate says their role was to advise the govt only and I ask what was their opinion about the subsidy issue and hw did they contribute in helping the masses on the matter. Maybe if it was islamic subsidy for the north he join the protest too? Our cleric both d christian and muslim areant helping d masses at all to fight corruption but idiots will be making noise during elections as to who to vote for.

CAN and the sultanate are political organisations.
Those crap entities are not recognised in Heaven.
I don't know of Muslims but i'm certain that true Christians do not take Ayo Oritsejafor serious.
I often see his comments and antics as comic relief.

I'd 8-2 be the 1-2 to tell you but Arsenal won't finish in the top 4 this season

playing Ashravin is a crime against humanity.
Paying him 90k a week is a valid case of criminal misconduct.

coogar:
fergie should have started rafael or fabio!

it makes no sense to have decent full-backs on the bench and playing a make-shift away from home.
i would have played raf--smalling--jones--evra in the defence.
there's no way rafael's ankle would have popped out while he's being run at by walcott of all wingers.

i just don't get it.
Jones is not a better full back than Rafael and might never be.
How will Rafael get better when make shifts are benching him?
he played a stormer last week and finds himself on the bench today.

Nani's performance in the first half on the left wing and Giggs subsequent cameo there in the last minute of the match is a valid reason why Giggs will still be playing at united past his 40th.

[quote author=Mr_TA link=topic=716327.msg10023961#msg10023961 date=1327259190]The problem with Chica, as much as I like him, is that He's overall performance outside finishing is below average. He has also had a very bad habit lately of not timing his runs properly and getting caught offside too much which is poor mainly because he's so quick he shouldnt do that. I agree that as a finisher, he's probably the best at the club but you need more than that at this level.[/quote]i guess his mum is a distant relative of Inzaghi's mother.

chamo and Coogar,
two of you should come let me settle this argument.
Welbeck has a dynamic movement upfront that is not common in English football.
He makes attacking play so dynamic and fluid that he is any coach's darling.
That said, his finishing is erratic and often poor.
He needs to have extra mural classes with Little Pea as his tutor. While he teaches Chica everything else apart from poaching.
I was wondering what was pushing him down all day.I then remembered when SAF said years ago that he reminds him of Kanu Nwankwo.
He has a good head on his shoulder, he is willing to learn and will get better and that is frightening.

Ravel Morrison is the teenager Manchester United struggle to control


Ravel Morrison has has a troubled time at Manchester United. Photograph: Nick Potts/PA
The last time I saw Ravel Morrison he was in the dock at Salford magistrates' court, fiddling with his tie and waiting to hear whether he was going to be locked up. An argument with his girlfriend had got out of hand, her phone had been smashed and he had ended up back in court a few months after being told the next time he was in trouble he would be going to Strangeways.

Nobody from Manchester United was with him that day and it struck me as strange given the way the club usually operate. Sir Alex Ferguson might ordinarily have been expected to make an appearance, or at least send in a character reference. But Morrison was alone, bar his solicitor. He was already on a referral order after pleading guilty to witness intimidation and the district judge had told him she would personally see to it that he went down if he re-offended. Instead, Morrison walked free, and straight back into the muddled life that has now brought us to the point, with jarring inevitability, when Ferguson has decided enough is enough and it is time to wash his hands of him.

At United they will tell you that, goodness knows, they have tried everything. Or, at least, until the past few weeks when the secretary, John Alexander, rang his agent to tell him he should look for another club. By that point, one of the coaches had simply stopped talking to Morrison. His mother went to pick him up from training one day and was told, in the bluntest terms, that her son was a waste of time and not worth the hassle.

Things have turned nasty and someone is spinning the truth, given that Ferguson said it was about money and the "unrealistic" demands of a player who has not yet turned 19. Morrison says he has never been offered a contract or asked for a pay rise, defending himself on Twitter where he announced during last season's player of the year dinner that the event was "shit".

His first-team career at United amounts to three Carling Cup substitute appearances and it is terribly sad when behind the scenes they talk of him being as naturally gifted as Paul Scholes. Barcelona have asked about him. Chelsea and Arsenal have thought long and hard about whether they can get him under control. Their verdict is they probably cannot, which leaves Newcastle, Roma and Paris St-Germain among the potential buyers. It may be the best piece of business they ever do, or may be their worst nightmare. With Morrison, it is better not to take anything for granted.

On the football pitch, he plays with finesse and confidence. In court, he was described as vulnerable and fragile. The picture that emerged was of someone who acts compulsively and does not think of the consequences. The referral order was imposed after he tried to intimidate the 15-year-old victim of a street robbery out of giving evidence. Morrison never seemed to understand the seriousness of sending threatening messages, then being part of the mob that chased the robbery victim and threw a brick through his window. The boy did. He was so traumatised his family put their house up for sale.

The people closest to Morrison say some of his misdemeanours, such as once giving a first-team player's boots to a friend, are simply to please others. Items often go missing from dressing rooms and in Sir Matt Busby's time they used marked money to trap the player responsible. These days Twitter hears everything, true and false. Now we have the sideshow of Morrison tweeting Rio Ferdinand to ask for back-up after rumours about him stealing his watch. Ferdinand confirmed it was untrue. This is Manchester United meets Grange Hill.

The best advice Ferdinand could offer Morrison would be to delete his account. Except Morrison does not like being told what to do. He is not seduced by United in the way most teenage boys would be. He has grown bored of being with the reserves, listening to the shouts from the first-team players on the next field. Lesser players have moved up, which he has found hard to take. Ferguson told him he would be, too – but only if he managed three months without skipping a session. Morrison does not work that way. His life at United has become a story of no-shows, stand-up rows and other disciplinary matters. Outside the club, 999 has been called more than once. "Write what you want about him," said one member of training-ground staff, expletives removed.

What United would rather not come out is that, in court, the district judge questioned whether the club were giving him the right care. Her view was that they may not be. Equally, if it is true this is not about money it reflects badly on Ferguson, to say the least, that he should say otherwise. Morrison, who is willing to move abroad, says he has "never asked for money and never rejected anything". Whatever the truth, there are no winners in this story.

This could be a £40m footballer in a few years, if only life were so simple. Instead you just hope that there never comes a day when he is that bloke in the pub telling anyone who cares to listen that it should have been him.

I plan to join this protest on Saturday.
Also when next the residents of Lekki decide to protest against that toll gate, i will be there.
this year na more protest and less grammar on top Nairaland.

^^^^^
God bless you.

Another contract dispute.
Danny Welbeck.
na wetin dey happen?
lad wants 60k,club offer 40-50k.

considering the fact that i have lost interest in Nigerian politics and lost hope in the country as a whole (for obvious reasons), i am not interested in this comparison.
However, all 3 come across as very  intelligent men (ElRufai and SLS in particular) and if they were not muslims, ti would have been an honour having all 3 in a pub with me and just gisting over a few pints.
Just talk (at least they are very good at that and talk intelligently),shooting breeze over several topics.

that pass was scary.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=846908.msg9975015#msg9975015
Years from now, we will rue this chance that we lost.
no one will go on strike again in the near future.
the coming strikes will be unorganized and led by faceless persons and there will be no one to negotiate with.
both govt and labour have lost an opportunity for genuine change.

it is past 10am, 3 hrs after his speech. i was expecting a speech or presentation by members of his team telling us how that number (97 naira) was arrived at.
i hope it was not plucked out of the backside?
is this deregulation or price fixing?
with 97 naira, is our economy no longer collapsing?
have the cabal being crushed by the God inspired 97 naira price?
do we need another round of strike before we see more power point slides from NOI et al explaining how the price was arrived at?
are they busy at present justifying the new price to themselves and would afterwards come to convince us?
how does this new price answer all the questions SLS, a member of the govt raised against the current fuel pricing regime?

I know labour will accept this.
Lost opportunity for all sides.
Next time, it would not be as organised and their might not be any organised labour to dialogue with.

thank you Mr. DJ for playing my song.

Asari is a businessman. I understand his logic.

DJ, i beg play me my jam.

Austileo:
I dont know dat very most highly foolish fake tunde bakare can talk.u and your oga wil die very soon because u hav left GOD and commited evil.i wonda wat your audience is hearing in your shrine.woe to u tunde bakare u wil neva fufil your days in joy in JESUS NAME AMEN

you just spew anything you desire and just add Jesus' name to it?
Dude, it does not work like that o!

989900:
In a good country the FINANCE MINSTER, PETROLEUM MINISTER, MD NNPC, MD PORTS AUTHORITY, GOVERNOR CBN, would all be in detention answering questions, auditors shutting down their offices and going through all docs.

Can you spot the missing link?

weird mind:
Most of our religious leaders diffidently hide under some isolated verses in order to refrain from making a atand for the truth & justice twds any burning national issues. How can u claim to love your congregation when what touches and pricks them is none of your business? Real prophets/men of God confront the evil fangs that eat into members' lives. But Pastor Tunde Bakare is a distinct exception. Fools mistake his passion for the underdog as an ego trip or attention seeking bug,but the average intelligent Nigerian who bears the pains of mis-governance of our rulers know better. Those liches and parasites that have reduced the hitherto healthy stems of the Nigerian tree to brownish rottenness are eager to call the true Nigerian heroes names,

Pastor,you are one advocate for the oppressed that we all know and love. Keep on the good work; u are in good company with Martin Luther King Jr.,John the Baptist, Archbishop Tutu and many others.

The administration of Jonathan is finished because he is disconnected from the people he is supposed to lead. He is determinedly on the side of the looters, because he is himself a big time looter. Down with the PDP and other reprobates in the corridors of power who yap: "Mr President, it is a courageous decision,we stand by you." Shameless looters, thieves,conscienceless barons, power LovePeddlers without honour, being cheered on by religious & dubious characters in wolves' clothing,

like the clownish and faceless fellow who took out a page in today's Guardian to spew rubbish.
I wish he put his contact details therein. I would have paid him a personal visit in sorted him out in a brotherly manner.
How low can we go? a pastor takes out a page advertorial to spew c rap and stand scripture on its head just for the sake of his stomach.

iv4fb:
I thought Bakare was a pastor and that politics is of this world and we are of God's kingdom-we are just passing by, huh?, now I'm not sure if he's an activist, a politician, a pastor or d devil. The God of the church is not the same as the god of politics and you can't serve God and mammon. So after serving d god of politics who failed him, he went back to his god?

Don't get me wrong, his analysis might be right but unto whom do he pledge allegiance? God? the god of this world? Politics?

That man must be a confused man!

how does speaking truth to authority and shining the light of fact in the face of darkness clothed in corruption mean a denouncement of his allegiance to Christ?
HOW does speaking truth to authority mean he is serving mammon?
He many not be of the world but he sure is in it.
When you go to buy fuel for your gen do you tell them to sell to you at 65 naira because you are passing through the world?
you call him confused? SMH

Tunde Bakare has many sins but i will take him any day over 98 percent of Nigerian pastors,especially the pentecostal lot.
Keep waiting for a saint and don't accept the truth in the man's word.
you go wait tire.

The crux of the matter according to Simom Kolawole

Jonathan Must Not Waste this Crisis

15 Jan 2012
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Simon Kolawole Live!, Email: simonkolawole@thisdayonline.com

Question: How did President Goodluck Jonathan manage to rally the entire country against himself barely 24 hours into the New Year? Answer: He underestimated public reaction to a major public policy—the removal of fuel subsidy. And I’d like to be honest: even though I knew that removing the subsidy (or, more appropriately, fuel price hike) was always going to elicit negative public reaction, I never knew demonstrations would grow in monumental proportions by the day. Judging from past experiences, we thought the strike called by labour would be a huge success on the first day and then gradually peter out. After all, President Olusegun Obasanjo increased fuel prices nearly on a yearly basis until he left power in 2007 and the strikes and demonstrations were never as massive as what we’ve had so far.

But under Obasanjo, there was no twitter, no facebook and no blackberry as tools of mobilisation. There was no Arab Spring. There was no “occupy”. Things have changed dramatically over the years and it was Jonathan’s luck to be the first Nigerian leader to taste the bitter fury of social media-induced resentment. Apart from underestimating public reaction, Jonathan made the mistake of thinking that Nigerians have not changed. His advisers thought removing fuel subsidy was a pure technocratic decision to be taken without any serious consideration for the political backlash. They also did not do enough scenario-painting, such as who was likely to take advantage of the situation to whip up public sentiment against the government. They simply took a decision and expected a standing ovation from the citizens who are already confronted with soaring costs of living—electricity bills, toll gates, new driving licences, new number plates, and so on.

I laughed hysterically when the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) started grumbling that the opposition had hijacked the protests. Can anything be more naïve? What is the job of opposition? To project and protect the interest of the ruling party? Was PDP expecting the opposition to start defending and marketing deregulation? Watching the Republicans debate in the United States, you could see the candidates make deliberate efforts to blame President Barack Obama and his Democratic Party for all the woes of America, even when they knew that he was not the architect of the country’s misfortunes. But that is politics. You tell the people I am better and I have better policies than the man in power. At the last Republican debate, the candidates deliberately ignored newly released figures which showed that employment figures had improved, with additional 200,000 jobs created. That is politics.

My offering to Jonathan today is quite simple: don’t waste this crisis. He has a rare opportunity to listen to the people and take a broader and deeper look at the entire governance structure. Fuel subsidy sparked off the crisis, but a lot of messages have been passed across in the process and it would be tragic if Jonathan missed these signals and concentrates his energy on blaming the opposition for politicising the protests. The first message is that something is wrong with the marketing of deregulation. From what I have heard most of the commentators and activists say, deregulation in itself is not bad. However, it is just one aspect of the reform we need to carry out in order to reduce the cost structure in governance. This is a very important message. Governments, over the years, usually rushed to increase fuel prices without taking a global look at the hindrances to our development and how to make judicious use of our resources. Regulated pricing is the not only problem and deregulation is not the only solution. We need to see a larger picture of our fiscal nuisance if things would ever change in Nigeria.

What exactly is Jonathan’s deregulation strategy? That is a very important question. It is not enough to have a policy that will ultimately benefit Nigerians; it is also very important to manage the entire process methodically and get the buy-in of the stakeholders. The best economic policies that ignore political realities will suffer in the public arena. Now, are we looking at a one-year or two-year deregulation programme? How would it achieve results? How do we realistically encourage local refining? Or should we just hope deregulation would automatically force licensees to build refineries? What if they don’t build even after deregulation? What options are available to us? How do we address the issue of what to do with the existing refineries? Sell them or lease out the management? If licensees refuse to build under any guise, should there be an interventionist strategy by the Federal Government? Or should we continue to rely on importation for ever?

Furthermore, in achieving the objective of deregulation, are we going to remove subsidy 50 per cent now, show the people what we have done with the savings and then remove the remaining subsidy later? In the meantime, how do we cut the rot and clean up the subsidy regime? How do we deal with those who have abused the subsidy regime over the years? What is the overall government engagement strategy for deregulation? How do we get the critical stakeholders to make constructive inputs rather than just dump the policy on them and expect them to simply fall in line? What is the communication strategy? What is the exit strategy if it doesn’t work out as expected? In public policy, these are critical questions that can only improve the quality of planning and implementation. Those who think the public have no right to make any input into the policy process are deluded; good governance is best attained when the co-operation of the different publics is gained through mutual trust and respect. If the key stakeholders had been part and parcel of the deregulation process—not just calling them to a meeting and presenting a fait accompli to them—resistance would not have been on this scale.

The second message—and the most important one for that matter—is: how do we reduce waste and corruption in government? We keep saying the citizens should sacrifice, but does it make sense for the Federal Government alone to spend N1.3 trillion on personnel costs every year (I don’t have the figures for states)? As many analysts have pointed out, do we need 43 ministers? Does every minister need four aides? Do we need 469 federal lawmakers, each entitled to aides and what have you? When I was growing up, I used to hear of Minister of Information, Youth, Sports and Culture—just one person. Today, it has become four ministries, each with the full compliments of bureaucracy! Why? How has that improved governance in Nigeria? Is that not why costs keep going up? Also, can’t we have four or five senators per state and abolish the House of Representatives entirely? Do we need both the Senate and House of Representatives? Can’t we make do with just 20 ministers?

[b]I am aware that the Jonathan administration is trying to merge some departments and agencies, but the fact remains that it is never going to be far-reaching enough. By appointing 43 ministers, Jonathan had already lost the opportunity to make a statement that he wanted a lean government, that he wanted a break from the past. It would have been easier for the president to preach sacrifice to Nigerians if he had taken concrete steps to reduce waste and corruption in government all along. The message of sacrifice would have been better received by the populace. Many have suggested that we should reduce the number of aircraft in the presidential fleet, which is a perfect suggestion. Also, most governors take chartered flights. I can’t remember the last time I was on a flight with a governor on board. Some governors even built airports specifically to be able to take chartered flights to their states. These are wastes. Some governors appoint scores and hundreds of aides who do nothing than deplete the treasury. We need to perform surgery on all these wastes.

President Jonathan has a very good crisis in his hands. He has to decide what he wants to do with it. He can seize this rare opportunity in the nation’s history to propose wholesome changes in the way we do our things in Nigeria. He has been talking about constitution review and has even empanelled a body for that matter. The sections that we now have to seriously consider for amendment have been pointed out by the people. Everything to cut the size of government at every level must be built into the new constitution. This crisis must not be wasted.[/b]