Something is really happening with many Nigerian men today. So much wickedness at every turn.

It’s like they are being overtaken by demons.

Society is crumbling.

Kinematics:



Hysterectomy as a means of family planning occur everywhere, more in the developed world than in underdeveloped world. Its not common, but it exists.

A hysterectomy is the surgical removal of a woman's uterus and, depending on her overall health status and the reason for the operation, perhaps her ovaries as well. For practical purposes, no woman who has had a hysterectomy can become pregnant; it is an irreversible method of birth control and absolute sterilization.

But per your source:

“If a woman has other chronic medical problems that may be helped by a hysterectomy (such as abnormally excessive menstrual bleeding, uterine fibroids, uterine growths), then this may be an appropriate procedure for her to consider. Otherwise, contraception should be considered a secondary benefit and not a sole reason to have the procedure

https://www.medicinenet.com/surgical_sterilization/article.htm


“Most often, hysterectomy is done to treat problems with the uterus, such as pain and heavy bleeding caused by endometriosis or fibroid tumors. The surgery may also be needed if there is cancer in the uterus, cervix, or ovaries. Some women may have the surgery during childbirth to save their lives if there is heavy bleeding that cannot be stopped.” https://www.uofmhealth.org/health-library/hw212587

A partial list of inappropriate indications for hysterectomy includes prophylaxis against uterine cancer, contraception in a gynecologically normal patient, management of menopause, leukorrhea and chronic cervictis, primary dysmenorrhea and premenstrual tension....”

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7333047/


I believe it would be considered malpractice to remove a uterus solely as a method of birth control

Kinematics:



In the developed world after CS some mothers may request for hysterectomy.
It may sound absurd to you, but people do it. Like I said its radical, but its still a method.

It’s not just that it seems absurd but also illogical, dangerous, and approaching medical malpractice

I’m born and raised in the developed world and women commonly request their tubes tied after cs, not their uterus removed. I have never heard of that. The only cases of uterine removal after CS I know is to save the mother in an emergency.

Hysterectomies are usually only performed if their are complications to do with the uterus not for simple contraception. Maybe in underdeveloped countries this occurs?

Are men ok?

These things are happening more & more frequently. Something is poisoned in the culture.

Busy talking about runs girls and slay queens and mad about twerk videos but sirs your fellow men are raping preschoolers and prepubescent minors, robbing, scamming, killing... my god.

Kinematics:




From the bolded you have a point, however how often does this happen? Extremely, I mean extremely rare.
Hysterectomy may be radical, however it still remain one of the methods of family planning, used in extreme situations.

You’re right it’s rare. But rare is why I said nothing is 100%...

In which extreme family planning situation would a doctor remove a uterus rather than just seal off the fallopian tubes?

Kinematics:



Yes hysterectomy, Tubal ligation(though not entirely), Vasectomy and orchiectomy are considered permanent methods of family planning.


If a man is still able to impregnant a woman after vasectomy then the surgery was either not properly done or miracle happened.

hysterectomy would be an extreme form of sterilization. I’m sure the contraceptive benefit of the procedure would be considered but that isn’t recommended as a procedure to undergo if contraception is one’s primary concern. But yes, that would definitely be 100% if undergone. I just don’t see that as family planning.


From my understanding the more common reasons for vasectomy failures are natural reconnecting of the clipped tubes and not waiting long enough to have unprotected sex.

Anigreat:
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I wanted to asked if you were among the girls Dbanj slept with, then I suddenly remember that even at gun point, Dbanj wouldn't have stoop so low to sleep with a woman like you. Yes, i called you woman because 40something years old person is no longer a girl. Maybe since you're still not married, you think you're still a kid. Madam you don old finish, go find husband yourself, if husband no wan find you.

is this secretly Dbanj behind this account? Why have you taken this matter to heart?

Kinematics:




Yes human errors can be a factor, however are family planning methods that are 100% effective eg hysterectomy and Vasectomy. Though both surgical, they are permanent methods and 100% effective.

Fear of surgery no dey allow people take that route. Its a radical route though.

I don’t think hysterectomy is usually considered a method of family planning... do you mean tubal ligation? Because with that it is 1 in about every 100 where pregnancy can occur.

Even vasectomies are not 100%, it’s very rare but I think pregnancies occur at about 1 in 1000.

obembet:
Most family do family planning to prevent unwanted pregnancies, some family even go to the standard hospital for proper care to avoid errors or mistake, but despite that, some women are still getting pregnant.

Dear Medical Practitioners in the house, kindly educate us and tell us the way out.

No method besides abstinence is 100% even where it is done properly.

When you add in the likelihood of human error (forgetting to take birth control pills, improper use of condoms) then it increases the chances those methods will fail.

With IUDs they can be inserted improperly, they can slip out of place... leaving pregnancy very possible. Some IUDs take time to be effective.

Basically, nothing is guaranteed

Sarcastic101:

If you see people that I've gotten their attention
You'd lose your self esteem

Don't mention me again
I don't converse with empty brains

Go and reinstall you brain

You get so much attention, right? From the cream of the crop, right? Sure. Lol... Then stop begging for mine with these sad displays.

You mentioned me first, I didn’t call you here. So feel free to disappear at any time.

Bye.

Sarcastic101:

So your husband is cheating on you
Sorry Ooooh
Put him in prayers
I'm sure he'd stop

And if you keep commenting like a goat

He'd keep cheating like a he-goat

Lmao, so now it’s my husband who is cheating? before it was my dad. Before you said I would never be married now you know all about my marriage? Ha.

Look how desperate you are to form an adequate insult... all for my attention because you can’t manage to get attention in real life. Sad.

Sweetheart here’s some advice: you may be ugly on the outside but you don’t have to force your insides to match. Work on yourself...

Be well.

Sarcastic101:

Hehehe
Don't marry now
Who dey beg you

When you grow old and cannot work for yourself
Regret go scatter your head

Na your type dey end up as mama lawo
When them old

My dad never cheated on his wife till he died

If you keep commenting nonsense here
Nonsense men would be attracted to you

1.) I am already married so your dumb predictions are as useless as the person making them...

2.) the only person attracted to my comment has been you... so thanks for admitting you are a nonsense man, at least we agree on something.

Sarcastic101:

Because you father was cheating on your mum doesn't mean all husband's cheat on Thier wives okay


All the bad girl wey u dey do
Wich good man don marry you

Now if I call your mom and dad useless goats to even dare birth such a person as you I will be called rude... but look at how you mention my parents unprovoked.

I never said all men cheat, so the fact you’re offended by my comment reveals you feel I was speaking about you or else you’re illiterate and didn’t understand my comment. Either way, not my problem.

Most men who say they want good women end up cheating on those good women with the bad ones. So who cares about getting married when the ones who are married end up in misery with your kind anyway.

milann:
It pays to be a good wife. Good wives laugh last.

If as a wife you’re being laughed at because of humiliation your husband brings upon you, who cares about laughing last?

Foolishness

Women have to learn to let these men go. If he’s cheating no amount of confrontation and chasing and begging him to be better will change his nature.

This man likely cheated on the woman so often that she’s now become crazed & irrational. A man who has always been true and good to his wife, she won’t react this way upon hearing he has a woman in his car. She would assume the best of him because he has always shown her the best.

(Also, which man upon his wife dying to catch him cheating would admit his side chick was in the car? Of course everyone would say it’s his cousins or family to save his reputation)

Instead of leaving him she’s now dead and he’ll bring his side chick into the home she made for him. Cheaters are not worth the stress, a miserable marriage isn’t worth your life.

DaddyRochie1642:
They keep the "good girls" for Long term things and the so called "Bad girls" for short term things

But they often save good girls for “long term things” like marriage where they cheat on them constantly and drive her crazy over the man going outside to be with the ones they save for short term things

Long term things like cleaning his house and cooking for him for life. What a reward for being a good girl.

Nodeydopass:
it was a shocking coincidence that I receive a WhatsApp message from the lady that same day that my post made fp. I was elated as well as surprised but also glad that she sent the message even tho it was just "hey".
though I didn't reply her that same day, I waited till the next day before I continued chatting with her and I told her that I already thought it was goodbye. she also told me she didn't contact me because she thought I was going to be busy. so since then we've been chatting.

on the relationship part, she reminded me that she just broke up with her ex about a month earlier so I should give her a bit of time before she can be ready to go into any relationship. I initially didn't want to buy the idea, but I thought it was reasonable to give her some time to sort herself though I made it clear to her that I won't be satisfied with being just friends with her. it's either we're in a proper relationship or just neighbors.
she told me she likes me too and she'll appreciate if I stay around with her and give her some time to get acquainted with things though she's not forcing me. but she needed some time.



it turns out that this user was correct all along. and again, not contacting her seems to have given some positive boost to the relationship and I think I'm liking it.

not that I wouldn't make the right decision if I didn't make the initial post on nairaland, but writing it out made me see what I was feeling in my mind, what was the right thing to do also, and no matter how perfect my final decision may later be, the advice I got from each and everyone of you who contributed to the post made it more sensible and solution oriented. thanks everyone.. Mr Yusuf, Mcsquishi, and all of you... I can't remember all the names.

have a productive week ahead.

Aww! I’m so glad she reached out to you and you both communicated openly and honestly! I hope it works out for you both!

londonbanks:
It's not just the fact that she forgot, it's that she's not invested in what we have. I've taken her out on a couple of dates where the majority of the time she was on her phone and not being receptive to my feelings even though I asked her politely to put it away.

Whenever she wants something from me she uses words like "baby" but soons as I send her money it's crickets from then on. Anytime I text her during the day to see how her day is she doesnt reply back and even when she does its "good" or "okay", quick short answers and doesnt reciprocate by asking about mines.

The birthday was the last straw because I had texted her few days ago and she completely ignored me until the day after apologising but only because hers is coming up in a few weeks and probably doesnt want to burn that bridge. She'll forget my birthday but will post on her stories constantly about other people wishing them theirs. It's clear at this point that she's been using me for money and doesn't care about me. Its always the ones you least expect.

Anyways I appreciate anyone who took the time to read this, your input will be greatly appreciated.

What do you need input on? It seems you’ve already figured things out and arrived at a decision to end things...

OlayemiAshraf:


Gbe enu soun ..nairaland teacher ..

I haven’t taught anything lol but maybe I could teach you manners if you want...

your native language is completely wasted on me

OlayemiAshraf:


SOME women's had nothing in their brain ... And luckily you're part of them....you have nothing upstairs .....

Let’s work on our grammar before trying to form insults. One step at a time.

Simplyleo:

Pls will you mind showing me where the emboldened was stated or implied in the report?

Will be very grateful.

It’s heavily implied. Women aren’t irrational like this without suffering a cheating man.

“Men are polygamist by nature” right?

So she has a cheating husband but instead of leaving him she will be terrorizing every woman he interacts with? Silly...

Hushbingo:
The lady i was dating abroad for about seven years now died last month. She was in Nigeria last year December. The thing is, we had a joint ownership of most of her old and recent asset.

She was working on my passport before she died from heart related disease. I can't say how much of an asset is at stake here but they are pretty much.

The money i get paid weekly from her unemployment insurance has been stopped automatically. I found out the govt doesn't accept such banks again except the conventional one. So, when i tried to fix our joint account, i was asked to verify her details which i couldn't guess correctly her mother's maiden name.


I know you think this is a fraudster trying to eat his client even after she died. Take that off your mind. I didn't scam her and we met to even plan our marriage before her demise. Somehow, i feel maybe the govt is aware of her death already. I just want to be sure..


We still have about 76g in her account before her demise... Somehow, i was restricted from buying anything through that particular account... Account that i was completely in charge of in the past.

Wait, she died in the US not abroad? I didn’t see that the first time...

The government will know about that almost right away. Death certificates are signed, social security numbers involved... usually the funeral home will report the person as deceased to social security administration. anything with that person’s social security number attached will then probably be affected.

If you were truly about to marry this woman then call her family and ask for the relevant information. Surely they must know you well...

I have to add that collecting her unemployment insurance after her death is very much fraud and definitely makes it seem like u were using some old woman for her citizenship and benefits She’s only dead one month and your concern isn’t losing your future wife but losing access to her funds anyway, RIP to her.

SarutobiEky:


All right. Glad to know that. But lawd! Is you fine.

Aww shucks. Thank you

richmond500:
I am tired and don't wish to stress this issue any further.
Do have a nice day hun

You do the same, dear.

richmond500:
human relationship will take u high in positions, women doesn't have that so they are rarely seen in high positions and when they attain it by some crooked ways, they start showing arrogant attitud

Women don’t have human relationships? What does this mean? Are you describing networking? Yes, a part of gender discrimination is where men in power keep the power for themselves and only help the men around them succeed, not giving women a chance to enter their boy’s club...

Forget this “crooked ways” bs as though it’s not men in power who are responsible for all the corruption Nigeria faces today. Men consistently rise through the ranks through illegitimate means.

jelel6:


On education, it is not so even. I think it will improve further down the road. Considering this was a 2018 report, there's every chance it's less at the moment. I tried to get some factual statistics for university enrollment but no luck.



I wouldn't know where to start on this. A significant number of women are not very comfortable with the word 'ambition' and what it may connote going by their responses to the question. I've read notable women compare women and their ambition unfavourably with men, much to the displeasure of other notable women. There's no price for guessing which side you're on this but that's okay.

Generally, men as individuals have few issues with being associated with the baggages that comes with being perceived as ambitious: aggressive, egoistic, individualistic, win at all cost. Management and leadership level is where the disparity is greatest. But to reach atop that ladder, everyone has to deal with the baggages that comes with being perceived as ambitious.

Having said that, there's a cost associated with following one's ambition, both for men and women. I do admit the generality of women may have to give up more compared to men in advancing their careers. Women simply can't afford to be individualistic as much as men can, especially when family is in the picture.


Where I think the idea of measuring inequality by outcome paints an unfair picture, especially for Nigeria, is at the beginning of their careers. There's still a good number of skilled female components of the labour market going by the number of university graduates each year (the literacy stat is not ideal, but it's still relatively closer, especially if we're only considering outcomes). The country still presents us with the same variables.

With that in mind, It's really difficult to then accept the significant gender inequality in terms financial stability as only a result of some systemic issue. It's not like there's any law stopping women from working or earning in any field. At some point, we just have to ask questions of personal responsibility of the individual in question.




Yeah, it's not hard to figure this out if you spend a week on this forum. I think it's more pronounced online because everyone writes anonymously without any regard of being held accountable for what they say.

Curiously though, don't be surprised that they do very differently from what their online persona suggests. They don't trust that their fellow men would be fair to them if they find themselves in direct competition with a female for something.

They do say what they mean. But don't do what they say.


You actually did the work.

I actually found a 2020 report http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_GGGR_2020.pdf

Nigeria ranks 128th of 153 on this one. The educational attainment is still dismal. And I’ll have to read it over more but I’m skeptical at those workforce numbers because where once Nigeria provided no data for professional and technical positions, they two years later rank number one...

So about personal responsibility, if you look at the stats about how women are married in Nigeria a least a decade before the average man in Nigeria is married.

As you said, women are stopped from advancing in career because of their family. A lot of men have an idea that their wife making too much money will make her a bad wife, not submissive, so he won’t want her to advance too much. some say they don’t want their wife to work at all because male bosses and coworkers can’t be trusted or some other reason.

If women have on average 5 children in Nigeria and women are is pressured to get married early and do so on average by 25. They marry men who commonly believe a woman’s job is to manage house and kids and that a successful career woman is a threat to his family. The men are in positions of hiring and when the culture sees women as inferior, sex objects, etc it’s no wonder women who are in the workforce do not rise in the ranks. I can’t in good conscience call that personal responsibility. There are very societal/cultural pressures and barriers to women advancing in addition to the very real systemic ones.

I don’t believe that the men who come online and express such low opinion even a disdain for women would show behavior that is opposite of that if they are in positions of power. Most of these guys are not trolling but genuinely believe women are less than them, less capable than them, were they to be a hiring manager I can’t imagine they would be keen to hire women.

richmond500:
Are u serious about this? If the ones to open door are Nigerian men, the possibility of reaching ur goals is 85%.
If the one to open the door is a Nigerian woman, u should just forget it, the possibility drops to 30%.
It is far easier to work with a Nigerian man than it is to work with a woman.
U see all those female nurses, clerk and Secretary?
they are witches.... All of them

The data I showed reveals women are overwhelmingly not in senior positions so rarely does a woman have the opportunity to open the door for anyone.

The people who can open doors are the males who are the majority in power both in private and public sectors. When men who have attitudes such as yours are hiring I wonder who gets chosen when an equally qualified man and woman are up for the position?

Not to mention in too many instances where women are chosen for positions despite being qualified they are hired based on their looks and the employers desire to have opportunity sexually harass them...

Venom442:



You're saying gibberish the ratio of women to men in schools as drastically surge up to about 3:1.

I shared data that exposes this statement for the blatant lie it is... the link is in the post you responded to but you still chose to lie, why?

Pclemenza:

I would want to disagree with you. It’s very obvious the said lady isn’t in anyway attracted to this young man. You are a lady and you know how your kind behave when u find someone attractive. Be honest and tell him reality rather then pet the whole situation.

You can disagree without accusing me of dishonesty.

read again, i said “or maybe she’s genuinely not interested in you” in the response you read.

I don’t know this woman so I can’t 100% say how she feels for him based on what he shared. Some women are reserved, some women have a strict dating etiquette where they don’t chase after men, some women are socially awkward and don’t know how to initiate things...

“My kind” don’t all behave the same way the same way males don’t all behave the same way or for the same reasons.

jelel6:


Nigeria and data collection you don't usually find in the same sentence, unfortunately.



I did took some time to go through that report you attached. I didn't analyse it completely but I focused on the crucial parts.

It's coming from a reputable body no doubt. But there's a lot of HOWs and WHYs I'd love to see a more detail explanations about.

From the report, parity is nearly achieve on both education and healthcare, globally. Yes, even for Nigeria. You can easily deduce that from the infographics in the images you attached.

Expectedly, it's the economic and political factors that sees greater gender disparity and the reason why the overall scores are significantly distorted.

Now, one of the metrics used to rank each factors is Outcomes rather than inputs. That's something I find hard to reconcile with.

In essence, they only care about how many female managers or ministers but not the numbers who applied. They only care about the numbers of men and women in the workforce but not the labour market.

They literally said they didn't account for factors that can be considered as means or inputs when finalizing the index. It's more like the ends justify the means situation here. Hence, the index is a snapshot.

The factors in question, politics and economic, are the two which the inputs/means are most needed to put these outcomes in perspective.

The others, health and education which reported less disparity, both men and women have roughly the same support systems to access and benefit from them - availability, finance, parents, community, etc.

As for the Economic and political factors, individualism plays a crucial role. Women have to want it (inputs) just as much as men do before we'll see a good balance, especially in Nigeria.

For Nigeria education is not close to parity, for girls who are left out of school it’s at 40. for boys it’s at 29. For literacy 41.4 for women and 61.3 for men. Nigeria ranks 140 out of 149 countries on gender equality regarding educational attainment.

As far as the methodology I think it is sound. It says it doesn’t judge things like culture, customs, and policy which it considers input/means. The outcomes are the greatest indicators of inequality...

There is no indication that women on any part of Earth have less ambition and drive than men, so the notion that disparities exist because women don’t want it is unfounded.

Anecdotally, the little exposure I’ve had to Nigerian culture has revealed just how palpable the discrimination is. It’s not even hidden. A lot of Nigerian men have a very low opinion of Nigerian women and of women in general. Many believe women are biologically inferior to them. Many believe that being male makes them smarter, more logical, and more reasonable than women. With such persistent attitudes it’s impossible not to acknowledge the very real possibility that even the most ambitious Nigerian woman will encounter roadblocks to success when those who are able to open doors for her are Nigerian males.

I appreciate you taking time to look over the report!

BLOODYSPERM:




Stop behaving like as if you are capable of applying and utilizing logic , remember you are a woman and your estrogenious hormones would always cloud your judgement making you solipsistic to give rationalizations to your feelings to make them sound plausible

There is a correlation between old age and wealth and status as it takes time for men to become, women just exist , men most become with age hence the Hypergamy correlation

Scammed women are based in western and Progressive Societies like USA and Europe where gynocentrism and Feminism has been acculturated into their Society hence women scammed don't need to identify as feminist as their society makes them Feminist , that's the deductive reason why Feminist are scammed

I hope you met your multi-syllabic word quota for the day. Geez...

Which science did you receive your degree in that told you that the hormone estrogen is related to clouded judgment? The way you people will just spout nonsense pretending it’s fact... wow. Not to mention that men also have estrogen and in increasing amounts as they age. so I suppose men’s judgment becomes more clouded as they get older? smh

There is no country on Earth where “gynocentrism” is a part of the culture. LoL. You’re childishly confusing efforts to cease all oppression of women and gender discrimination with being “gyno-centric”.