₦airaland Forum

Indifferent12:
You are definitely an illiterate, things produce in the free trade zone are mainly produced for export, that’s why govt set up free trade zone.
What every currency the company decides to sell their products is up to them, but what u should know is that if anyone set up their factory in a free trade zone, it means their plan is to export such products.

Now speaking of dangote, he’s working with crude oil, which is sold in dollars world wide. As a Business man will you buy crude oil in dollars and sell refined products in naira?
You should be truthful to yourself.
Dangote group is a business organization, not a charity organization.
Unless NNPC can provide crude oil for dangote in naira or dangote can some how get crude oil in naira, he has no reason for selling in naira.

Olodo ni e. In the first instance, who told you Dangote is buying fuel in Dollar from NNPC and others?

So all those companies in Lagos Free Trade Zone export their products abroad? They sell none to Nigeria and they sell in foreign currencies?
Ask the most knowledgeable person in your city and less see if he or she can help you out.

Free trade zone is not solely set up for export. It’s set up to encourage establishment of industries, exportation, and majorly to eliminate certain trade barriers ( like tariffs, taxes etc) being meted on companies outside the free trade zone.

So it’s like an incentive to organizations and companies to come and do what government cannot do.

I don’t blame you sha. It’s internet, faceless forum like this and data that allow people like you to dey yarn okpata.

No wonder!

You better go and help him sell to Nigerians in Dollars.
Omo iran ki’ran.

Urgent1Million:
It makes no difference.
He'll sell in the naira equivalence of the dollar rate that'll make him the desired profit, plus a reasonable margin for inflation since he'll go back to buy crude in dollars.
Trust me, it'd have been better he sold in dollars.
Dangote is a businessman and should not be mistaken for a father Christmas.

Chief Assumption Officer - Dangote Refineries Ltd.

See how you wrote as if you have insider info about Dangote’s pricing template.

Gibberish. That’s your wish. Businesses don’t run that way. Babyish assumption.

coleon:
I will help him out to explain to you since you clearly want to learn.
Nigeria will not be saving anything close to $10bn even if Dangote does sell his products to marketers in naira.
For every barrel of crude oil Nigeria gives to Dangote to refine a price is being paid in FX i.e whether Nigeria gives it to dangote to refine and pay back in naira the alternive forgone is what could have been earned in FX if exported .
Now if Dangote sells to marketers in NGN and he repays NNPC in NGN it means Nigeria net FX revenue from crude oil sales will reduce as a result of production.
Where Nigeria will gaina little is because one barrel or crude oil is not one barrel of petrol hence we have to maximally turn all the constituents of crude oil to money and other constituents we can export to enable Dangote recover some FX to settle his loans but it's nothing close to your $10bn savings at all.

Not all Dangote’s loan is denominated in foreign currencies.

And not the whole $20billion investment in the refinery is on loan.
The valuation was just done in $$ for economic purposes and for comparison sake.

Dangote would gain more when repaying his loan due to improved Naira. Don’t forget that he won’t pay with Aboki rate.

Assuming he borrowed when one USD was selling, officially, at N750 and he is paying when one USD is selling, officially, at N600 has he not gained?

Once his refinery is able to help strengthen Naira, he will always be a gainer because he would need less Naira to be converted to foreign currencies to repay any of his loans denominated in foreign currencies.

A lot of people here just love forming/turning to overnight economists once they hear about Dangote and his refinery. They would start propounding economic theories being used in the land of rising sun because of the 8red they have for that Northern guy called Aliko. And they like regurgitating and repacking the same theories being used in their 2 by 4 shops.

Come and hear what they say all over obodo oyibo. So bitter. Once they enter any Nigerian shop or gathering like this, especially their 3ibal shops or gathering, na Tulumbu and Dangote be their topic.
They love to see things fail for those two men.

Instead for us to be happy that someone is trying to help us revive our economy and reduce inflation.

Indifferent12:
It’s the only thing that will save Nigeria at the moment, but the choice is left for dangote group to make not ipman.
Giving that the refinery was built in a free trade zone, I don’t see how dangote will sell in naira, unless NNPC provide crude oil to dangote in naira

Are the Nigerian oil marketers that would be buying from Dangote based outside Nigeria?
Please justify why they would buy in foreign currencies.
Do we spend another currency other than Naira? Do you know what they call Free Trade Zone at all? May be it’s because Lagos’s Free Trade Zone is situated close to the ocean. That’s why you think every trade zone must export or sell in foreign currency.

You better go back to JSS 1 and start schooling again.

So if Kogi State or Plateau state could have free trade zone now with many manufacturing companies there, does it mean that anything produced there has to be sold in foreign currencies?
Go and find out the meaning of free trade zone e and the reasons why governments set them up.

ivolt:
First, Nigeria does not dash out any money.
It buys goods it needs at international price.

The government get its forex primarily from oil export.
If Dangote refinery sells in Naira, it means it will pay for the crude it buys
from the NNPC in Naira too.
So, the government will be getting less forex than it used to unless it strictly
sells to Dangote from increased crude production.
Of course, some forex will be saved in the process due to the extra value created
and also shipping costs assuming Dangote can produce at a competitive rate.

This only applies to local market, whatever Dangote export is a positive for the government.

Dangote doesn’t buy solely from FG. He buys from other oil companies and they sell to him in Naira since they are all based in NIgerDelta.
With increase in government’s crude oil production, FG can sell internationally, make $$$$$, and also sell to Dangote and make Naira.

The refinery would, significantly, help strengthen Naira because as FG was making Dollar before, so it was dishing it out to importers and that would stop.

I am sure before the end of 2025, Nigeria’s oil production would reach 1.8million bpd, at least.

matify83:
Thanks for bringing this to public discuss.

I have always had my reservations for this trend which is fast gaining popularity.

Firstly, the assertion of improvement in water run off does not hold water. A 45 degree slope is enough evacuate any amount of precipitation.

The idea may have started from people copying western designs without configuring them to our climate.
The high roof creates space for the attic which "oyibo" people also use as living spaces. But in our clime, you would fry to death because of the heat up there.

Some have adduced that it makes the house cooler. This is another misconception because simple physics should tell them that the larger surface area of roofing tiles or aluminium exposed to the sun increases the convection of heat into the living spaces.

More worrisome is the addition of cornices or parapet which prevents the roof from breathing thereby trapping tremendous heat in the attic and by extension the living spaces below.

Visiting old institutions built during the colonial era, you will marvel at how passive those design were and are liveable even without artificial cooling e.g UI main library, UCH main structures, ABH.

In a nut shell, increasing floor to ceiling height with clerestory Windows is more tropical oriented than the miss-fit we are discussing.

May you live longer.

It’s just a waste of money. Must we plate SHUKU on every building?

Let heavy cyclone hit it. It will cart it way.
It can even make the building to get weaker and age quickly, because of the heavy load the building is carrying and especially because of those bricks that are not strong.
Na copy and paste dey worry our people jare. I better pass my neighbor.

Are you sure you are dealing with a real company or some sets of fr.audsters?

freedomtours:
Your question is not clear
1 but if you have authenticate your documents at moe&mofa, you can get eligibility and English proficiency from there to apart from your school and it is faster

2 But moe&mofa have suspended the authenticate of BSc and ND and Hnd for now due to mass proliferation of fake certificates

3 You said you have student copy of your transcript, but note if the student is the one u printed from your email and want to authenticate moe does not accept it, except the copy you collected directly from your school showing the stamps on it.

I don’t know why those ministries can’t have a central secured database where all polytechnic, unis, NCEs and other tertiary will always deposit students’ transcripts and build a website where students can apply for this and pay online and the ministry gets the transcripts sent to the appropriate authorities either in soft or hard copies.
They would only need to agree on % of sharing the revenue from this application and the concerned institution and the ministry gets credited, automatically and instantly, with their own portion of the cash.
With this, MoE will find it easy to verify this document because they can also probe it from their database upon payment.

By the way guys, I just wrote a short mail to Austrian embassy, on behalf of applicants for residence permit process, on the need to have separate portal for those verifying and those legalizing.
I have my reason to the best of my ability but I would suggest if students can be coordinated on this and send more dignifying mails to the embassy on the same matter. Better still, students may approach MoE and MoFA on this for the two ministries to appeal to the embassy on this because those verifying tend to me more than those legalizing.

I assume the embassy has canceled legalization requests by applicants by way of sending emails, as it was being done in the past. That was what warranted the mail I sent to the embassy. If the embassy still gives legalization dates my emails but not my online appointment as portrayed on its current appointment portal system, it means my letter was needless.

I wish all applicants all the best.

First of all, start counseling her and show her evidences of those affected by her habit. There are lots of YouTube and documentary videos to show to her.

If you have cable tv at home, always tune-in to those channels where obese people go through surgeries and various health exercises to have their life back.

If she doesn’t yield, wake up one night around 1:30am and start crying. When she comes to ask you what happened, don’t tell her. Let her call everybody on you. Increase the intensity of your cry while they are praying or speaking in tongues.
When it is about 3::30am, tell her either in a simple language that she should stop consuming those things and promise you she would stop forever or tell her that you had a dream she died of heart attack due to consumption of those junks and she was being buried. Chose the most weighty reason. It may be different from those I just gave.

lextube:
Adecco will not give you work if they know that you hold a student residence permit. Their clients whom they recruit for such as Amazon don't have the patience to go and apply for work permits on your behalf. Unless you know how to speak read and write German, then you may be lucky to be employed by one of their other clients. As for Billa, BIPA, Horfers etc. I don't know about other States in Austria, but in Vienna, if you can't speak German, or you don't have a valid work permit, they will not employ you. Even for the most stupid job position, they will not give it to you. That is the bitter truth. No reason to sugarcoat it. But you're free to apply to them whenever you get here to see for yourself.

You could be right. Adecco just stopped it. But let me give you are trick to getting there job. If you are closer to graduating and you are able to convince them, Adecco will wait for you once you show your renewed residence card (job-search).

alfredilly:
This is about the failure to contend with the growing economic environment. I said it here earlier that the closer of some foreign multinational like P and G, GSK, Nestle is due to Nigerian preference for cheap and low quality product. To every Lux, there is premier cool, Kasmo and other product. To every Omo, there is Waw, good mama, So easy and other. These companies should have found a way of approaching the market in a new way, after all, they are richer and possess the resources to mobilize the best brain.

The only way they could fight those lowly-rated brand is to create a lowly-rated brand that can be used to fight all those Kasmo soap and co.

See what DSTv did to Star Times by creating GoTv just to fight StartTimes. DSTv just took out most of its Free-to-Air channels and added a few C-list channels from DSTv and configured it GoTv decoder and boom! DSTv made sure it out sports channels that would attract Nigerian youths and sports bet lovers.

A lot of multinational companies don’t have Business Planners in their team but they have Business Analysts.

Those that recruited people as Business Planners don’t allow such staff to function as planners but as analysts and they don’t know.

Studying Strategic Clock (Matix) could have helped Unilever to identify where Omo and Lux are and also identify where all those Kasmo soaps are on Strategic Clock.

Instead of using Strategic Clock most companies end up using SWOT and this analysis has mostly been used in wrong situations.

You only use SWOT before you lunch (that’s at planning stage).

Unilever should have downgraded Omo and Lux to the region where all those lowly-rated brands are and spend less on ads campaign.

Where those lowly-rated brands are is called. No Frills, No grills. They don’t have any special value to add than to give foamy effect for you to bath and go out. No special ako protection agents as being found in brands like Lux.

We still can’t blame Unilever because those Market Leaders sitting at regional hubs and at headquarters see the numbers everyday and have concluded it ain’t worth the headache.

That’s why the decision was made. Unilever Nigeria has nothing to do than to obey the last command.

Selling the brands to other interested buyer would have been considered through but since the brand is still doing well in other markets, Inilever could have felt it ain’t going to be a better business decision to divest from the brands worldwide and sell them outrightly.

I am sure their CFO has to report this as part of its Discontinued Operations, when releasing its next financial statement, in line with IFRS 5.

atiku4President:
Harsh economy will only grind the wheel of production to a halt

It’s not a matter of harsh economy. Those brands have already reached their decline stage on product life cycle. They ought to have ‘di.ed’ since but Unilever Nigeria kept rebranding them.

No thanks to Malaysian and Indonesian caustic soda soaps sha and the Indian and Lebanese cheap detergents.

Lowly-rated brands are cheap and Nigerians are poor. Since these low brands don’t need much in ads and campaign budgets, they are able to give Omo and Lux a run for their life because those ones needed huge budget to run their marketing campaigns.

In this region, until standard of living improves, old brands will always struggle to remain longer than usual.

Watch out for the d.eath of Premier soap too and Imperial Leather from PZ.

saydfact:
There's actually nothing wrong with these doors...

These are flush doors and it follows the principles of flush doors.

The real issue is when people buy flush doors and use them in place of security or panel doors.

I don’t say anything is wrong, bro. You have buttressed my point.
Lots of people don’t know it’s not strong because they don’t see what’s inside. So then end up using it at wrong places.
Mod you live in towns and cities where crime rate is tend to be higher, these types of doors are not even suitable as inner doors, let alone entrance doors.

Come to think of it, you will only find this type of doors in poverty-stricken counties.

BennyDGreat:
So blaming government failure on private individuals is the way then?

Government didn’t fail. We are the ones that failed the government. We are the government. We only have a few people to represent us as leaders. We are saboteurs. We are greedy. We are selfish. We are impatient. We don’t love our country. We are not ready to sacrifice.

Check your heart well. How many good deeds have you done today towards your country and your fellow human beings?

Any country where you see things work, it is not the ‘government’ you are talking about that made it ok. It’s the citizen that resolved to make things work.

Along Okokomaiko or anywhere around Nigeria where, for instance, container-laden truck falls on a fellow citizen, instead of fellow standbys and passerby to help, they would bring out there phones and be recording and shouting ‘ IT IS HAPPENING LIFE NOW ALONG OKOKO…. HELP US SHARE AND LIKE …
If the injured is lucky to get to hospital, fellow bad citizens would insist on getting some deposits before their fellow citizens could be attended to.

Come over here and see where a common rabbit is crossing the road. All vehicles will wait until it has successfully entered bush. We’re those people instructed by government to have good deeds?

We have people who have passed through some areas today and saw some dangerous things that could injure other road users. What effort have they made to inform passerby or try to remove that danger?

If you do 15 goods in a day and I do 15 goods in a day and everybody does 15 goods everyday without doing any bad, give us 10 years and Nigeria would be like paradise.

All those TransferGo, TransferWise (Wise) etc are responsible. The dollar didn’t come.

Government should ban them.

Only companies like Moneygram, Western Union, Ria etc really remit dollars to Nigeria.

Greed too is k..1lling our people. They want to get money at black market rate and they are complaining Nigerian Naira is not better. Eating your cake and still trying to have it.

lilytender:
Privatise CBN? Stop whatever you just started smoking

Yes. They can privatize CBN.

American Federal Reserves (American’s CBN) is a public-private company, being run solely by private individuals.

Check ‘CBN’ of Switzerland too. It’s a private company.

They are more effective than government-run CBN. No nepotism. No corrupt officials. No parapoisim, paddy-paddy, man-knows-man.

It is in our bank that you will see someone who read Forestry or Literature working as bank staff.

I can’t lay my hands on the most up-to-date source of that of the US and I didn’t want to give you what looks like outdated proof. You can read more about it.

But check that of Switzerland here:
https://www.snb.ch/en/services-events/digital-services/faq-overview/qas/qas_unternehmen#t03

After closure of portal, serious lobbying would start.

All sorts of lists would be flying around.

Sulu Gambari list.
Saraki family list.
league of Imam list.
Kwara CAN list.
Governors list.
Olofa list
SSG list.
Speaker’s and House of Assembly members’ list.
Idiagbon family’s list
APC Kwara chapter’s list.
NULGE list
Tapa list.

The list is endless, after which supplementary list will come out. Common man’s children would now be left out.

janda1:
Boss this is my WhatsApp number

0701 702 0148

Ok. Will try and get back to you soon

Joboffer24:
Hmmm.. Do you think it's okay for me to work and not have anything to save?

This job is 9 to 5.... Which means I might have to get home late at times to rush early to work.

It's nt that I can't do it but there is no way I would be able to foot my other responsibilities if I accept this job.. And it's everyday job

Looks like the current hybrid work you are doing has turned you to a lazy man.
Take the new job first since you can still survive on what is to be paid. Don’t forget your current job is expiring.
While on the new job, start searching for another one.

To work in audit firm may not be easy if you are above a certain age but it is still possible.

Go for the low-hanging fruits first by searching for jobs in firms like Grant Thornton, PKF, BDO, Pedabo etc.

Be checking myjobmag.com at least 4 times in a day for auditing and accounting jobs.

Make sure you send out minimum of 10 job applications in a week.

Do not forward already sent email in any new application. Always make sure you send fresh email on every new job you apply for.

You can adjust your cv to suit a particular application and make sure you save a copy of that CV in a secure place or you can blind-copy yourself in every job application, to be able to have a copy of any modified CV you could have used.

Update your LinkedIn profile and add a lot of HR personnel to your network. This will help you know when they post jobs or looking for referrals. Also, they will be checking your profile, mostly, in stealth mode, whenever they need candidate to fill a particular role.

Make sure you pass your ICAN on time because lots of big audit firms prefer to hire brilliant chartered accountants.

All the best, bro.

Opè o. Oyo State don get emergency number o. I hope the number goes always and somebody responsible for the line is able to help when called.
One line is not enough. Seyi, with your level of exposure, you are under performing.

There should be different line for
Ambulance
Fire emergencies
Police

These lines don’t cost a leg and a arm.

Can all our other states too have, especially our. Or there states where there are insurgences? This will help the people to quickly reach out to security agencies when there’s need.

Abeg our governors and security ogas; no use this to dey pack money o.

janda1:
Boss please can I send you a dm

The pay is very low I swear

I'm even afraid, 200 euro can't even pay money back home and can't run some bills back home

How can someone survive

If it's just to run 40 hours from Friday to Sunday and net that 1200-1500 euro a month, I'm ok with it

From Monday to Friday focus on studies

A better part-time warehouse job can pay you like €1600 net or more but be ready to work like a machine and be ready to have low grades in your studies.
That’s why I said it’s your spending pattern, back in Nigeria especially, that would not make €850 to be enough for you.
For your sustenance, I repeat: 850 Euro is not bad.
So drop all commitments that are not necessary back home.

Rise first before you start pulling others. Tell them to be patient with you.

I may not see your DM. I don’t know what’s happening to my NL and my email. They don’t synchronize well.

More so, a lot of people are trying to h.ack me these days. Even someone attempted to takeover one of my social media accounts from Abuja this early morning. Same thing on my emails and WhatsApp.
You can drop your number here or an email address.

Write this down: the moment an accountant doesn’t start his or her career from a reputable multinational company or any of the Big 4 audit firms, such accountant shouldn’t stay more than 3 years, max in any local company. Otherwise, the accountant is on a looooonnnnnng thing.

Those stea1ing in a company would still stay I. Such companies sha and weather all the insults and abuses.

Brotherly, jé kí awó lo.

janda1:
Boss can someone work more than 40 hours a week base on your experience

I'm having challenge with this

20 hours can pay bills

2- how much is the pay per hour

As a student, you are not allowed (officially) to work more than 20 hrs. Where you are lucky, your employers can allow you to work overtime, at times. After your graduation and even if you haven’t gotten to job-search visa, your employer may apply for up to 32 hours per week for you and it’s usually granted.

I am sorry to say this: 20 hrs can pay bills. Just learn how to live within your means. If you get a job of € 850 (net) like in fast food restaurants, and your monthly accommodation is not more than €400, your monthly transport card (buy 1-year pass) is €33, your internet is €10 max because you will always have access to WiFi at home, what’s next is for your upkeep for the month which shouldn’t be more than €150-200 Euro. I assume your employer will pay for your insurance monthly.
You can conveniently save €200 except if you have debts that you are paying back home or you have other areas you are spending on. 😜😜 you and I know.

For extra work, people do it in an under-arm way but I don’t advise it because if you are caught, you would pay heavily for it. More so, it would affect your studies.
You can utilize your holiday period to work full-time and still make some bucks.

You could also be lucky go get jobs that would pay you €1k to €1.2k net in a month.

Check Adecco. They recruit for Amazon but be ready to work even though they well above €12 per hour.

Check at Der Mann Bakery, Anker, Billa, BIPA, Enny etc.

One tip I will give you is that the companies that pay well are usually far from the cities. If you can be commuting long distance, lots of companies are waiting to may more, even up to 1.4k net per month.

It would be advantageous for you if you can drive and you have converted your Nigerian driver’s license to that of Austria. You can get a small vehicle and be using it to move to the outskirt of the city where lots of companies are there looking for people to work.

Pay per hour is not static. Some companies can pay than others but expect from €8 to €15 per hour.

Check clevylinks.com. They are taking applicants on full and part time basis. They are just building their warehouse in 21st District in Vienna. They are from China. Be ready to work and be on your feet for longer hours in a colder warehouse.

Check fiveguys restaurant’s website. They accept application on a daily basis. They are like McDonald’s.

There are lots of them out there.

If you can’t work full time at your company during summer holidays, look for event companies during that period. A lot of them have plenty jobs because there are concerts everywhere and you would make money and travel round Austria and beyond with the company.

Souzin:
Would you be kind enough to drop the information on how to get cheap rentals?
Rentola and housinganywhere is expensive and isn't exactly helpful

There are lots of hostels for students in Vienna. I have sent some to people in the past. I would try and search and share them here. I do not promise o but I would try and search again.

Someone can tag me later in case I am not responding on time.

Maybbe Shell will use the proceed to build filling stations across Nigeria, now that Dangote refinery is up and running. 😜😜

Any country where you can’t find, at least, 3 of these filling stations, my brother and sister don’t go there to stay for long. Only use such country to quickly step up to another country or else one would su.ffer or be forced to do illegal things to survive.

The filling stations are:
Shell.
Mobil
BP
ChevronTexaco.
Aral.

And any country you see them using keke NAPEP (Marwa) as part of their mainstream means of transportation, my brother run o.

Godwin Obaseki pro max.

Nothing dey Shuaibu head. He just wan go l00t and put his name in that register that he ruled Edo State.

Edo State has everything to be a fine and better state but from Lucky Igbinedion, na soso misrule.
It’s only Oshiomole that tried like 10%.

I miss Edo State o.

oluking:
how did it get to front page

Mod wants people to argue over it or may be there is no suitable headline to move to fp since morning under that category being supervised by the moderator.

N500m too small. E suppose be N2billion make glo con negotiate am to N1.5billion 😁.

From 2013 fa!

Legal fees alone don chop 1/3 of the fine before the guy go settle other bills and relocate his family from where he is, what of income the guy would have lost over that 10 years the case has been in court, the inconveniences etc.

I know say glo go appeal for Supreme Court. Na money the guy go still spend.

Make Supreme Court bill glo wella o. Like N5b.

Dem don steal Nigeria bend.

Are those people sponsoring them ghosts? They have never been named.

saintopus:
Olodo, then why did you protest in 2012 when GEJ removed subsidy?

Was it envy and hate for GEJ?

.

GEJ didn’t have the balls to remove subsidy. That’s why it was not removed. It’s not protest that stopped him from removing it.

If anybody had protested that subsidy shouldn’t be removed by Tinubu, he would still have removed it.

The president has the power to veto subsidy removal.

Why GEJ was paying lip service to subsidy removal was that: he was eyeing second (abi third) term of being president of your country and he was worshiping the Northern oligarchy because they put him there with the help of Obasanjo. Don’t forget that those that benefited most from subsidy ers are from the North.

GEJ wanted northern endorsement and the northern votes, forgetting that he had signed a confidential agreement where he stated that he won’t serve more than one-term after the death of Ya’r Adua.

Why didn’t he implement the CONFAB report too? That’s the committee he set up by himself o. Were people protesting too that he shouldn’t implement the report?
That’s to tell you that he only used the confab to buy time, distract people, buy people by paying them heavily for coming from all parts of Nigeria to sit and eat bouvet 4 times everyday and sleeep and snore and still go home with plenty cash after the confab.

Obasanjo did the same thing. All the reports are there gathering dust.

There are some powerful people who have political and business interests across Nigeria. They dictate the tune of things to this country. They are present in states and local governments as well.

Pray that we have representatives that will come and step on toes of those people.

In conclusion, GEJ was just a dummy president, though he was allowed to make his own money too.

beevalley:
Thanks for the response.

Reason i asked was in terms of funds constraint. And in situations when you may need to legalize one of the documents after the lawyer was done with the verification. But didn't do it initially.

As regards the second part, will all pages of the transcript(or similar document) serve as a single document during legalisation(80€). Or it's by pages?

It’s per page because they will put sticker at the back of every page to show it is a legal document. It means it can be accepted or tendered as evidence in court of law and it has become admissible by Austrian government to be used to process your RP or for any other thing.

Any document that does not have the sticker at the back is not a legal doc because people can be fraudulent and attach extra document which the embassy didn’t legalize (by putting sticker) and then add it to the ones the embassy has legalized.

It’s good the Mod of this thread deletes all comments that are talking about WhatsApp group for Austrian study visa here.

Creating WhatsApp group outside this thread does not allow up to date info and experience sharing.

They have taken more than half of the info to their private discussions, which looks being selfish.

Let everybody be here and rub minds together and co-learn.
It would even be more fun and interesting.

A lot of people who have benefited from this thread too and are in Austria or have moved on to another country can be coming here to share some tips for those that are coming.

That’s how we can grow. All I have been lucky to meet from here can bear me witness, I don’t charge them kobo for any info or any assistance and I do it to the best of my ability.

Please let’s be our brother’s keepers.

That’s what they did to Estonian study thread and they run it moribund.