₦airaland Forum

JJOF:
Pastors are suppose to be poor!!!!! Wowwwww!!! That's serious ooooo. Thank God say God no be man oooo, cause if thus guy for be God ehn, e clear say all Pastors for poor die.

Have you ever wondered why an institution teaches you that by dancing, clapping, singing and donating your money to another man your God will reward you?

The people that do not dance, sing, clap, donate to pastor.....but are rewarded, where did their wealth come from?

rexbuton:
This was the same person who said " the north would hold on to power at all costs in 2023"

Today he's claiming Osinbajo should fight back his detractors who are trying to remove him from the presidential game now and in 2023.

What I can infer from shitty man's statement, is that he's goading Osinbajo to retaliate and get emasculated once and for all..

We know friends and we know enemies

No mind them jare.
After serial losses the strategy Buhari used to win was obtained from SW.

The strategy Osinbajo would use to defeat opponents will come from SW.

Buhari lost three elections back to back, his fighting back failed to deliver result...until he strategically went about it a different way.

Osinbajo does not need to fight back, he needs strategy. A winning strategy!

Omoodua007:
Nope you hatred predates civil war

I never thought of it but you are correct.

They have to define what constitutes "hate speech".

cc
Arewa Consultative Forum
Dr Junaid Mohammed

fyneguy:
This is not about grammar, oga. People, who are not familiar with Lagos, might make this mistake.

Dude, Tin Can is over thirty years old. You dont need to be in Lagos to know how to spell it. He committed the same error of illiteracy that former IGP had when he couldn't pause and reflect on a badly composed speech where every sentence is a Transformer.

This OP may not know but for God's sake do we have an IRELAND in Nigeria?

IDanfulani:
Thank God you Understand what I mean, Mr. Literate

Yeah, thank God for knowledge!

JJOF:
Is as though you are not comprehending what he is saying. Reno is urging all rich northerners (Atiku inclusive) to take care of their own people with their wealth. Must everything be political?

Anything posted in Political Section becomes meat for consumption if I have taste for it.

Why does he need to preach to rich Northerners to use their wealth to take care of their own? If Otedola had not made the contribution would Reno have had the concern?

JJOF:
I hope you'll say same when commenting a thread that says Pastors should use their wealth to develop Nigeria.

Pastors should not use their wealth to develop Nigeria. Stop talking rubbish to me.

Pastors are not supposed to have wealth. Their preoccupation should be God worship, not material acquisition.
Church should not develop Nigeria either. Their job is to support communities and help the needy.

gidgiddy:
So they told you that once you are in "one Nigeria" you must like each other? Igbos and Yorubas have nothing in common except that the British lumped them both in one country in 1914

Precisely!

I have combed repositories, including exclusive ones with subscription, trying to find any record of Yoruba contact with Ibo pre-1900....None exist! Not in oral record, not in written record. I even looked at artworks that perharps I will find trace of contact with Ibo, None exist!

Yoruba has record of Ijaw and Igala...the two colonizers of Ibo ahead of Britain. Yoruba related with others at State level....Ibo had no State, therefore we had no reason whatsoever to know you or care who you were.

nijabazaar:
This is the reason why Igbos hate Yoruba....

You are the reason.

So do you love Hausa?

nonxo007:
How much has the government pumped into the South west, south east and south south? But how come they are all developed while the north where billions are pumped into yearly is still in abject poverty? My brother the private individuals have a lot to do in the development of a region.

You missed the point.
Please read my post again.

The proper words to use in this context is Government and Private, not individual. Private investors do invest in capital assets and resources that create production and help in employment and markets thereby leading to redistribution of wealth. The Indimis do that.

Government is responsible for social growth and alleviation of impediments to capacity building. Education, hospitals, markets, infrastructures....these are all capacities that when available makes a person excel in society and become self-sustaining.

Indimi is not responsible for the second part. No wealthy Nigerian is responsible for that second part. That is government role.

lexy2014:
But that doesn't negate d veracity of d points he raised

If we are talking of flaunting wealth....the same man he praises now, Mr Otedola, a true and great man...well known for his phillantrophic involvement in society....not long ago in Spain or Italy, I forgot, was pictured with his daughter with ice cream cones. They flew to another city just to get ice cream. His daughter posted it.

So it is impossible to have the kind of wealth these people have and expect that their children will not live extravagant or, in the age of social media that they would keep their extravagance out of sight. Impossible!!

I will dial back to Diezani as Minister of Oil. Her sons are always in private jets flaunting. That's what wealth does.

It is inconsiderate of him to go down that line. Look, this guy is an ex Presidential aide. Is this the best he can do for the nation, poke nosing into individual family lifestyle?

Esseite:
Naah... the topic got you mangled up, the Donator is Yoruba, the indimis's are practically APC with ties to the presidency, with such amount of funds donation shows the Govt which is APC is inept on the level of poverty.

You just didn't know how to bring in tribal lines as it involved none which you love to hate. While even trying to go the route of Reno being with Atiku in dubai, which one wonders how it even got into the topic of discussion.

Conversations in a thread swings. Participants swing with it and keep the theme rolling. It is derailed when the swing extends beyond the thematic area.

Atiku, Indimi ...are consistent with North East and poverty in North.
Reno, Atiku.....consistent with partnership.

What he accused Indimi of, Atiku is likewise guilty of. Can you see the theme now...or do you need me to break it down into A, B, C, D....

I am going to stop responding to you. If i continue you will dumb down my thinking.

spokesboy:
Illiterate spotted! So reading and presenting a budget is now tantamount to releasing 1trillion? Nawa o

We are talking of Lagos politics, not your village council gathering.

Go and read the Governors statement on the budget and the projected revenue, there is deficit of over 90billion. After allocation the performance is going to be worse than the deficit. Lobbyists were not happy when Ambode was Governor....they couldn't reach him! They can reach Sanwo....their hernia is healing....

What event was that? I was out of circulation this past weekend to know whats going on.

Where is naptu sef?

kettykin:
This is the more reason for biafra , biafra should be a Nigerian project and not an igbo project only

Kaduna Declaration kick started an independent Biafra for you....free of charge and without any bloodshed. What did you do with it?

I think the question ought to be "Is there any ethnic group in Nigeria that doesn't have issues with Ibo"? Don't single out Yoruba...we just happen to be most visible on internet and our responses to Ibo are heard more often than what you hear from others. On Hausa forums Ibos are thrashed daily but you won't know because it is written in Hausa. Go and check Asari videos and what he said about enslaving and selling Ibos. Ibos themselves have cried out repeatedly that their people are despised in Benue. Their markets are targets of vandalism and intimidation for the slightest excuse in Bayelsa. In Jos, everytime violence break out between Fulani and indigenes Ibos go into hiding...for fear of becoming collateral victim. It is a serious problem, very serious, and it needs a fix....but it is compounded by Ibo themselves and the avenues to use to fix it is often blocked by their own arrogance.

Esseite don run comot for thread.

I hope you are in google collecting data for response to the challenge. Post your answer when you have it available. Im willing to drag this thread to over 100 pages as necessary since you have something to prove.

Esseite:
Please dont think too highly of yourself or assume such if anyone thinks you such, you only thrive in tribalism.

You just need to access your threads and comments and see the truth.

I thrive on love for my ethnicity...Yoruba! Simple.

...but let's leave all that to the side. I want to return you to the issue at hand.

Answer my challenge to name private jet owners anywhere in Nigeria that engage in removing the poverty that is visible all over their environment.

Esseite:
Typical metaphysical... the SE has finally entered the discussion..

You are really predictable.. read more and engage on better discussions.

You did not see Lagos, I guess.

Esseite, you are under-developed in mental capacity at my level of critical thinking and analysis. You may be a king of analysis in your village but when we meet in Nairaland please know, and make a note for yourself....I will trap you into a corner mentally and embarrass you intellectually.

voltron14:
Is Atiku not from Adamawa, a state that belongs to the Northeast, the location Otedola has chosen to direct his philanthropy?

Is Atiku not amongst the richest in the Northeast?

Why does Reno find it convenient to call out the Indimis who are private individuals, who have never tasted political power, yet he shields his benefactor Atiku Abubakar?

Hypocrisy?

No mind them.

They have no clue... its a story of blind leading blind.

Esseite:
The poverty rate of other states cannot be compared with that of Bornu state coupled with terrorism and IDPs in thousands.. the rich and affluent who happens to be the Govt directly and indirectly should do more rather than flaunting private jets. that is the point Reno was making.

Please focus....

Dont go into terrorism or IDP. Stay on vanity by jet owners and their sorrounding poverty. Poverty has no yardstick....poverty is poverty, whether in Maiduguri, Lagos or Onitsha. Social factors or impact of poverty is what can be measured...not the deprivation itself.

Go back to my previous and discuss how many private jet owners in Anambra helped poverty in Awka or Onitsha.

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Esseite:
Another off point... available to stress what point? How does Atiku even relate to the topic which is what you mentioned ab initio..

Metaphysical, this is not your line of engagement.. you sway more on Igbophobia and Party partisan topics..

Well, isn't the topic on flaunting private jets by a family sorrounded by poverty?

Tell me any state in Nigeria that does not have poverty. Tell any state in Nigeria that does not have citizens that own private jets.
Tell how many of those private jet owners are involved in and engaged in removing the poverty that sorround them.

Esseite:
You have run out of words (answers).... we understand it's not an IGBO topic neither is it a PDP thing, never really expected logical answers.

I am available to stress the point with a thinking person...not someone preoccupied with a utopian fantasy for what could be...

Call your thinkers for support, tell them to gather and challenge me...you can sit back in corner and learn.

omenka:
PDP supporters are the most pathetic hypocrites in our galaxy.

Otedola, out of the kindness of his hear, has decided to extend a helping hand to people in need and punks like Reno, along with his herd of incorrigible fools, have chosen to make a mess of the entire intervention.

First off, otedola never appointed them to speak on or publicise what he has done, on his behalf. Why are they running their mouths and fingers over it?

I bet their Atiku, whom they admitted just months ago was the only man in the north rich enough to match the financial war chest of APC, hence their expectation at to polls. Today, the same Atiku has become so poor he is incapable of helping anyone, hence beyond reproach. Or, maybe he's even a southerner therefore shares no such responsibility as the Ndimis.

I find it so hard trying to wrap my head around how te minds of these people work. Damn hard imagining they are indeed humans and not some programmed robots hardwired to think along just a single line.

You nailed it with the right expression "herding"!

Atiku took a meeting to Dubai and published an impractical encyclopedia of how to get Nigeria working again....Reno was a principal facilitator of that encyclopedia. Is what Reno has been saying the way to get Nigeria working again? PDP is in trouble when fugitives that cannot vote are listed as voice of the party.

Esseite:
And who is the Government?... is it not the individuals and their associates?.

- The children of their inlaws and inlaws themselves
- The friends of their fathers..
- Their uncles and aunties..
- Grand fathers and grand mothers..
- Siblings, nephews and nieces...

I ask again, who is the GOVERNMENT?..

Abeg, stop asking rhetorical questions fit for a utopian society.

There was nothing wrong with Lagos...the Party leaders were the ones suffering from hernia.

Didn't Sanwo Olu just release over 1trillion budget last week? Of course the hernia pressure has gone down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBoVBFIrvU8

Esseite:
You cant even discern that Reno is actually saying the North in generality should do better for it's people. You just had to bring partisan politics into it...

poverty in North had been there before Britain colonized them and before Alhaji Indimi was born. It will continue after he is gone from earth. They have governments in North, the development of North rests on government, not private individuals.

This whole issue came about from donations made to Save Children Foundation. That's an act of phillantrophy and is not same as development for North. You are not talking to an illiterate!

Where is Thinker Ireland, you bloody illiterate!

Dont you mean "TinCan Island"?

Are you a Nigerian...or one of these imported bandits from fulani enclave in Mali? Gosh!! Disgusting!