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immortalcrown:
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How does your comment differ from mine?

greatness22:
Let them face Israel in the “Knock-out”


Let's see

immortalcrown:
The same Cross that makes misguided Nigerians support Israel?

Some Nigerians support Israel because of Christian religion, not because of who is wrong between Israel and Gaza. They don't even know that Israel does not embrace Christianity that much.

MaxInDHouse:
The wisest pastor ever in Nigeria!

That church will be filled with young ladies who are side chiks hoping to snatch someone's husband and men who want to go into polygamy in da lord.
Simbarry shout "Halleluyah"
Let's see the church that will beat Yul's church in the next six months with playboys, side chics and polygamists anticipating such a movement!

robosky02:
Ladies and gentlemen,

Meet Emilio Nsue - the highest AFCON 2023 goal scorer so far with five goals in three games for Equatorial Guinea 🇬🇶 including the tournament’s only hattrick.

Nsue plays as a right back for CF InterCity in the Spanish third division and forward for EQG. 😅
See
He is way ahead of Nigerias' Osimhen, Senegal Sadio Mane and any big name you can think of.


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DesChyko:
I like that he is pursuing it legally and even has some Ugandan support as well.

Hopefully, this pans out for him.

Integrafamoo:
Okocha was grossly cheated. Even our so called strikers could not match him

Sand2022:
Jehovah's witnesses subscribe to cessationism. A theology that believes that spiritual gifts ceased in the first century.

Jehovah's witness hierarchy doesn't know for sure when the gift ceased. They deductively assume it ended in the first century. One of there books said:

"The gifts of the holy spirit were generally passed on to other Christians in the presence of the apostles, usually by the apostles placing their hands on fellow believers. (Acts 8:​18; 10:44-​46) It appears that those who received the gifts of the spirit from the apostles did not transfer them to others. (Acts 8:​5-7, 14-​17) To illustrate, a government official may issue a driver’s license to someone, but that person is not given the legal authority to issue a license to anyone else. Apparently, speaking in tongues ended with the death of the apostles and those who had personally received the gift from them."

The JW Governing Body do not believe that 1cor 13:8-11 spoke of the gift ending when "that which is perfect" come. Many JWs often quote that scripture, saying that " that which is perfect" is the bible, so when the bible was completed, the gift ended. I don't know how this tradition developed, but that is not what their publications teach. I agree with that truth that the gift will cease when that which is perfect comes, although many witnesses who use that argument don't know they are teaching something different from their church understanding.

Let's look at the Reasoning book of JWs, page 404. Let's first see why they threw away the fine proof in 1cor 13:8-11, after that, we will see when that which is perfect will come.

Why did they dismiss the clear proof of when the gift will end at 1cor 13:8-11?

The Reasoning book states:

"At 1 Corinthians 13:8 reference is made to several miraculous gifts—prophecy, tongues, and knowledge. Verse 9 again refers to two of these gifts—knowledge and prophecy—saying: “For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.” (KJ) Or, as RS reads: “For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect.” Then verse 10 states: “But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.” (KJ) The word “perfect” is translated from the Greek teʹlei·on, which conveys the thought of being full grown, complete, or perfect. Ro, By, and NW here render it “complete.” Notice that it is not the gift of tongues that is said to be “imperfect,” “in part,” or partial. That is said of “prophecy” and “knowledge.” In other words, even with those miraculous gifts, the early Christians had only an imperfect or partial understanding of God’s purpose. But when the prophecies would come to fulfillment, when God’s purpose would be accomplished, then “that which is perfect,” or complete, would come. So, this is obviously not discussing how long the ‘gift of tongues’ would continue."

We can see how clear scripture at 1cor 13 was sidelined by the Watchtower. They were already getting to the correct understanding before they shifted it cleverly.

It is clear from that scripture that the gift of prophecy, knowledge and speaking in tongues are all part of the spiritual gifts, when that of prophecy ends, so will the other gifts. When will they end? The book correctly said it's when Gods purposes all get fulfilled in God's kingdom. By then, that which is perfect or complete would have come, showing that there is no need for the gifts.

After wrongly saying that this scripture is not talking about when the gift will end, the JW leaders proceeded to contradict itself with another comment on the same scripture. Let's see

WT July 15, 1992

Since a babe acts on the basis of limited knowledge and physical development, it can be swayed to and fro, as though being rocked in a cradle. But a man is much more developed physically, has greater knowledge, and usually is not easily swayed. He has abolished childhood thoughts, attitudes, and methods. Similarly, after God’s earthly organization grew out of its infancy, He judged that it did not need the spirit’s gifts of prophecy, tongues, and knowledge. Though present-day members of the congregation, now in its old age, also feel no need for such gifts, they are glad to serve God under the guidance of his spirit."

This article is commenting on verse 11. Here they now said that the scripture is stating when the gift will end, when the church grows out of infancy. They have thus detached the whole point of Paul out of context. Paul had just shown why the gift will cease in the future, because they have partial knowledge. Paul is still continuing with this point by using himself to give object lesson of what he had already said above, just as a babe have partial knowledge, so are those with these spiritual gifts, they will get the perfect knowledge in God's kingdom.

Let's read verses 11, 12;

When I was a child, I used to speak as a child, to think as a child, to reason as a child; but now that I have become a man, I have done away with the traits of a child.  12 For now we see in hazy outline by means of a metal mirror, but then it will be face-to-face. At present I know partially, but then I will know accurately, just as I am accurately known."

Did you notice how verse 12 started? for now we see in hazy outline. This words are connecting the point about the child with another illustration of looking at a metal mirror. How can we be sure? Notice verse 12b. At present I know partially, but then I will know accurately, just as I am accurately known.". We see here that Paul has again brought himself as the object lesson. It's all about the partial knowledge and it ending in the future, when true christians will see face-to-face as it were.

Surprisingly, the Watchtower, gives this verse 12 a different meaning from verse 11.

In the Insight book, under "face", this is said:

"Comparing the understanding of God’s purpose had by the early Christian congregation with the fuller understanding to be had upon receiving their heavenly reward, and then coming to comprehend the divine purpose in its entirety as prophecy is fulfilled, the apostle Paul said: “For at present we see in hazy outline by means of a metal mirror, but then it will be face to face.”​—1Co 13:12; compare 2Co 3:18; 4:6"

Here they believe that the verse 12 will fulfill in the future kingdom, but verse 11 fulfilled after the first century. It is however clear that all this is about the future. Perhaps they did this inconsistent interpretation so that there supposition that the gift ended with the death of the apostles will have a scriptural footing. This is contextually impossible.

Let's look at the theory of Watchtower that the gift was passed by the apostles laying of hands or during their presence. According to them, after they died, no one had the power to transmit such powers. True, the scriptures shows different places the gift was passed by laying hands of the apostles or during their presence. In fact, in one instance, Simon wanted to pay to have that ability.

But we shouldn't forget that the gift came first at Pentecost. God poured the spirit directly from heaven. Nothing prevents God from doing the same anytime He wishes. Secondly, it was not only the apostles that transmitted the gift. We read:

Acts 9
17 So An·a·niʹas went and entered the house, and he laid his hands on him and said: “Saul, brother, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road along which you were coming, has sent me so that you may recover sight and be filled with holy spirit.”

This is how Paul got his miraculous gifts. There is no other area showing that Paul met the apostles to receive the spirit. So it wasn't only the apostles that transmitted that gift. Our God can use anyone to transmit the gift or He pours the Spirit by Himself.

As to the fact that miraculous work should be happening now, is it not written in Joel, that God will pour His spirit in the last days? If we are in the last days, assuming the gift even ceased, why wouldn't God pour it out again in fulfillment of His word?

Secondly, Rev 11:3-9 spoke of two prophets of God that will come with great miraculous power. JWs says this refers to Rutherford and his cohorts, however, verse 7 says that when they FINISH there witnessing, the beast will make war with them and conquer them. Yet this conquering is said to have happened when Rutherford was still alive, and after the so called conquering, Rutherford was still preaching. When the prophecy clearly says, the conquering happened when they have FINISHED their witnessing. To confirm that the two witnesses did finish their witnessing, after they were resurrected, did they start preaching again? No. The account says they flew to heaven.

Thirdly, we can glean from Matt 7:21,22 that we should have true prophets today.

"Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?"

Speaking about people with miraculous gifts, Jesus says, not everyone. By saying not everyone, Jesus implies that some miraculous workers will genuinely call out to him when he comes back. Some will genuinely say they performed healing in his name and he will not deny them. Is it not logical however, to say that if Jesus is warning about false prophet, it shows that there MUST be true ones? If not, the word " false" makes no meaning.

In summary, there is no scriptural support for cessationism.

AntiChristian:
Seems you lack cognitive comprehension! A Muslim killing a Muslim is a big sin.

Almost every group you mentioned killing are politically motivated in one way or the other having being involved with either CIA, mosad or other Israel/NATO group!

I don't have any business with Shia caliphs and I don't know them!

Abel was killed by Cain and it was a big sin!

Holy spirit enter Samson and Samson go dey kill about!

Nonsense!

AntiChristian:
This is falsehood!
You Sabi tell lies for Christ!
Killing a Muslim by another Muslim is one of the greatest sins in Islam.

efembaba:
My fiancée and I have been engaged for about 7 months now. About when we started, she told me her genotype was AA of which she showed me the test result so I never really took it upon myself to confirm mine which I had been believing as AA.

Recently I went to confirm mine and it turned out to be AS. In shock, I asked her to recheck hers since the result she'd been working with was from when she was a baby. She checked at the first hospital and it surprisingly turned out to be AS. Immediately she did another one at another hospital/lab and it still came out as AS.

I know what most people will say is that that's the right test and we are not compatible medically (which though gruesomely painful, I understand).
but my questions are then these:

1. How do genotype test results change over time? I know they don't since it's based on genetics but how on earth was it possible that she tested AA before but not now (my head is so messed up right now).

2. I know the plain, straightforward answer for situations like this, for most people, is that we path ways due to the outcome of our genotype and I get it. But I want to ask, is there any possibility of an alternative at all? Maybe something that's not so conventional that some people in such situations have done to help them still marry and bear children without issues.
I understand if you think this question is stupid but I'm am a possibility thinker and I know that the world/internet is filled with possibilities.

If you know, please kindly help out. Thank you....

Emusan:
Since it's not BIBLICAL, it must be discarded.

Well, they will still make excuses for the gods in Warwick and praise them for this New (confuse) Light

overdrive:
No pictures

PrinceofSarcasm:
That tribalist FreeStuffsNG will soon come here and create topic because the person is Yoruba.

The guy doesn't even think like a normal person beyond tribalism. I don't know why he wasn't banned permanently.

Seun if you want to clean Nairaland accounts like FreeStuffsNG should be banned permanently. He only created topics for one tribe and intentionally avoids achievements of southeast southsouth of Northerners.

Ban that account permanently!

kingmeme:
After many years in Christianity believing in some myths instead of working with reality, av been to big churches crusade/Virgil, but av not seen an an amputated man leg/hand being healed and can walk again, is all hope lost for dis people or its impossible for God to do?

FRANCISTOWN:
10 “So it shall be, when the Lord your God brings you into the land of which He [a]swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give you large and beautiful cities which you did not build,

11 houses full of all good things, which you did not fill, drink of wells which you did not dig, vineyards and olive trees which you did not plant" -Deut 6:10-11

MaxInDHouse:
The head is one person just as Tinubu is the head of Nigeria so if Tinubu pay his tax and i also paid mine what sense is there to ask Nigeria as a body to pay tax again?

AntiChristian:
Some Christians are just not serious! Are the killers separating Christians from the crowd before killing them?

May we not die foolish!

LordReed:
The fact is all Christians who believe Jesus is Coming Soon^TM will have face up to the same challenge this JW teaching is facing because I'll bet you dollars to donuts such a thing is not going to happen. For those who think date setting is the main culprit, just consider the words themselves, coming soon, there is no explanation that makes this make sense given the time lines we are seeing.

MaxInDHouse:
This one didn't even read the comment he just jumped in and started typing.

I said it's members of each religion that comes up to say bad things about their former religion so since i have never attended Kumuyi church i can't confidently say he is diabolic but former members of his church has come here to say that just as ex members of synagogues are doing to TB Joshua.