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Aemmyjah:
No we are not
Stop defending lies by concluding others are liars

What does Papa sell

Can you swear to it that Oyedepo ever sold oil?
Oath is the end of all strife.

For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife. -Hebrews 6:16

Ask MaximumSide .
Janosky.

Vawulenciano:
All Nairalanders please help him with advise.


A friend narrated his story to me and I'm hiding his identity while bringing the issue to Nairaland to help me know what to advice him by speaking on it.
This is the story.



I need advice.
Between the lady that was there with you when there was nothing and the one who made you rich, which one is best for marriage and you are only allowed to marry just one.



I'm Ijaw from Bayelsa State.
I loved this girl. She loved me too. She told her father she want to marry me, her father say if she leave his house he will rent out the room he gave her.
She said no problem that she will marry me and she took her properties then pack to my house in another town but neighbouring Community and different LGA.
Her father kept his word.
Rented it to students for the place was University area and student rented it fast.
My father said he doesn't like the lady that I should send her away, me knowing that she lost her house for my sake told my father that I won't and when I saw that my father was bent on sending her away, I said instead of she to leave, I'll pack out with her and I did.


Then I went and build a basher at my own place for I have land and we started living there.
Things became so hard and we left that place and travelled out because nobody wants to support us from our both families.
We travelled to Benin with our last cash and started sleeping at front of a shop at night while we work menial jobs by day.
Hoping that we later go Lagos and rent better house after saving some money and we start life there.



After sometime, we missed each other and couldn't find each other.
This girl was already pregnant for me and we had taken blood oath back in Bayelsa that nothing would ever separate us.
She cut her self with Matchet for my sake and I did same then we joined the fresh bloods together.



Couldnt find her and later gave up because we missed each other.
Later I travelled to Ghana with a friend then I came back Nigeria and got work in Port Harcourt.
Later met another Ijaw lady from Kalabari and she was from Billionaire family and an only daughter.



After sometime together
I asked her to marry me and she said yes.
I had some millions in my account and she had some roles she played before I became millionaire.
Now, my other woman that lost for so long has come with a son and say we must marry for she trace me back home and my people called me for I and them settled and became family again.




The girl did not spoil the pregnancy and she has now brought back a boy.
What can I do, the other lady is saying she won't agree either.


My 5 father's from great great grandfather to my father all had one wife.
I can't handle two.
One wife is in my family DNA.


Please I need help.
How can I settle this?

Lie that you can't marry two wives. What is your body count?


Anyway you are between the devil and the Red Sea. The family of the billionaire can destroy you. The blood oath will destroy you slowly.
My take:marry the two of them.

Better still destroy yourself before any of them does.

MaxInDHouse:
Are they also your founder?
Because if not then you and JWs aren't on the same page!

When a deluded person found a thing, I have enough sense not to follow him.

Aemmyjah:
😂

Are you crying for your sin of lying?

Aemmyjah:
Pls tell us what Papa is using the Goya hall to do and what he actually calls it?
Mention how and why it is different from the normal market price?
🤷‍♂️

They taught lies in your halls also?!

Bishop Oyedepo has never sold oil anytime in his ministry. Any oil used is provided by the mission or brought by members. He prays on them as individuals that are interested lift it up.

MaxInDHouse:
If you're not sick how can you say you see JWs as part of your assembly yet always criticizing us?

Well i've told you that without being a member of JWs you're doomed. It's none negotiable!

Fallacy ProMax.

The other day, David Splain claimed to have the qualifications for being a part of 144,000 .
Little wonder, your founder built house for Abraham in USA!
Mumunity.

MaxInDHouse:
So are you saying all those condemning that church aren't TOXIC to your Pentecostal stuff?

Nay, we see you as not part of the general assembly.

Hebrews 12:23
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

You belong to the same esoteric group with strange beliefs and practices different from the Commonwealth of Israel Ephesians 2:12

MaxInDHouse:
Are you saying Oyedepo truth is accepted by all other churches?

You're just deceiving yourself walahi talahi!

Maybe not your own organization.
Are yours accepted by any?

Ilamina:
Is there anyone enjoying life

Yes.
If not, we all live in hope.


Hope is the father of tomorrow.


I once listened to a story told by Mike Adenuga . He had borrowed money to get oil out of the oil field. All things went south.
On December 31st that year, he was on the rig with the engineers desperately searching for oil. He thought of the huge debt he incured. He was the end of the road. He presently considered ending it all by dividing into the ready hands of the Sea. In split second, he dreaded what was about to do! He encouraged himself. Few minutes later, there was a shout from beneath the rig. They struck oil! Things changed for him.
Today, is one of the mega - rich black man on earth today.

Few minutes ago, he wanted to end it all. The oil would still be found, but behind his miserably impatient life.

Push on brother.

Celebrations are coming.

MaxInDHouse:
So all the different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines is like what to you if only JWs is the yeast that's giving them a problem?

Guy are you sure your grey hair comes with a sound mind or you have wasted all your youthful times in delusion?

Yeast spoils what is well preserved not the lots of different religions claiming they're all followers of the same person yet contradicting themselves!

Ọlọpa ewo n t,'epe?
I only say your truth is a community truth not accepted to the rest of us.

MaxInDHouse:
Have you now agreed that SCOAN should be accepted as part of what you call Christianity?

Or your Pentecostal people still need some adjustments?

I don't involve myself in such matters.

When warned by the elders in pentecostal circle about his practices and Chris Oyakhilome. Since there is no Law that made it compulsory for joining any association, these two don't belong to both CAN and PFN. I guess your organization also does not belong to any of these. Maybe be the three of you have something in common so you can form another body.

Ilamina:


It is not easy

God is not a nice person

.
.Are you tired of the world?

A little more hope will suffice brother.


Life no balance everywhere. A lot of people are coming from a lot passing through a lot for a lot of reasons. Endure your owm lot and be positive. A lot of blessings are coming your way.

MaxInDHouse:
So where is proof as you are not an insider?

One of such is the topic under consideration.

MaxInDHouse:
So why are you always disturbed about JWs if you're sure of your God?
Why not create a thread and start preaching zealously about your own God?

You are on course.

The Bible enjoins us to be our brother's keeper.
I am zealously campaigning against the 'yeast' of JWs.

BluntCrazeMan:
...

But wait ooo..!!


If the Auditor-General takes the Supreme Court and the Nigerian Judicial Council (NJC) to Court,, sheeyy the case will still later get to the same Supreme Court.??

AND THEN,, THE SAME SUPREME COURT JUDGES WILL STILL HEAR IT AND PASS THE JUDGEMENT.??

In my place, they say when you trace a road to the top of a palm tree. That is natural ' Road Close '

MaxInDHouse:
If surrounding nations don't feel the Israelites of ancient times were TOXIC they won't continue to attack them from all sides.
If the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis don't feel Jesus was TOXIC they won't plan to kill him.
If the Jews practicing Judaism in the first century didn't feel Jesus was TOXIC they won't have preferred a criminal to him.
If first century Judaists didn't feel that Jesus' disciples were TOXIC they won't continue killing them.

So think about what makes faithless generations feel God's chosen people were TOXIC back then!

Your own toxin is like that of Judas and Demas. It has nothing to do with outsiders but a crack from within.

Ohyoudidnt:
Keep reading MightySparrow or is it LookingSparrow. On a thread alrady 4 pages long you're still reading comments?

What are you reading for?

I have read two this morning. I have been quite busy lately..

MaxInDHouse:
One million smileys can't hide your fears but if you prefer deceiving yourself it's OK!

I fear nothing. I only have reverential fear for God. I know my own God personally. I hear Him. I follow him. This is one beauty of pentecostalism. Any sincere pentecostal pastor would teach you to have a relationship with your God. I don't fear any god of any Gaddem Governing Body and their teachings, doctrines, whims and caprices. I no be mumu following a non- consistent GB.

I love my God and perfect love cast out fear.

You dey fear?

Ohyoudidnt:
The majestic plural, also called the royal plural, is the use of a plural word (such as the pronoun we or us) to refer to a single person. As a type of nosism, the majestic plural emphasizes something or honors someone in a stylistic way. Basically, when a member of royalty, referring to himself, says, “We” instead of “I,” he is using the majestic plural. For example, Queen Victoria, upon hearing a tasteless joke, is said to have replied, “We are not amused.”

The ancient Hebrews used the majestic plural, and some examples are found in the Old Testament. But the construction is not unique to Hebrew. The Latin language also had what the Romans called pluralis maiestatis (“the plural of majesty”), and, as has been noted, English sometimes uses it as well. Other modern languages using the royal plural include Punjabi, Hindustani, Telugu, and Egyptian Arabic (in which the President of Egypt is referred to as “Your Excellencies”).

The effect of the majestic plural is to indicate greatness, power, and prestige. It is normally reserved for use by nobles, kings, popes, and other persons of high rank when speaking in an official capacity or by those of lower rank when speaking of or to their betters.

In the Bible, we find four verses in which God refers to Himself using plural pronouns. The most well-known passage is Genesis 1:26: “Then God said, ‘Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness.’” See also Genesis 3:22; Genesis 11:7; and Isaiah 6:8. The One God is speaking of Himself in plural form: us and our. This is a perfect example of the majestic plural. God’s divine greatness and transcendence are emphasized through the simple use of pronouns.

The majestic plural is also found in one of God’s most common names in the Old Testament, Elohim. The word itself is plural (the singular is Eloah), and it is sometimes translated as “gods” (when referring to a plurality of false gods). When it refers to the One True God, Elohim (plural) is correctly translated as “God” (singular).

Deuteronomy 4:35 says, “The LORD is God”—literally, “Yahweh is Elohim.” And the famous Shema says, “The LORD our God, the LORD is one.” Again, we have the singular Lord coupled with the plural Elohim, and this time in a verse that is crystal clear that there is only one God. His name’s plural form indicates His sovereign supremacy, His matchless might, and His exceeding eminence.

We carefully note that the majestic plural in the Old Testament was not meant to teach the doctrine of the Trinity. It is simply a linguistic tool that God employed to accentuate His greatness. However, the use of plural constructions to refer to God leaves open the possibility of God’s triune nature. Later, when the doctrine of the Trinity is revealed in the New Testament, the use of the majestic plural fits right in.

Your logic is correct. The issue of Trinity is much more than one verse or one author.
I would like to know if Arabic has such plural of Majesty. I am teaching myself a little Arabic with texts and YouTube. I am not that proficient.

MaxInDHouse:
ATTENTION! ATTENTION!! ATTENTION!!!

If this OP refused to mention the name of his church and the doctrine he subscribe to surely he's just looking for ways to engage faithful people in fruitless arguments when he himself is without faith:

https://www.nairaland.com/7858224/charles-taze-russel-believed-divinity
https://www.nairaland.com/7482212/jehovahs-witnesses-babylon-great
https://www.nairaland.com/7471284/jehovahs-witnesses-inconsistent-interpretation
https://www.nairaland.com/7532433/144000.html
https://www.nairaland.com/7471236/jws-death-acquittal



So my brothers let's AVOID this thread!

What has denomination to do with ' rightly dividing the word of truth '?

I thought you were going to fault his argument convincingly.

TenQ:
If Qur'an 17:4-8 is the direct words of Allah and not of Mohammed, it is A scary proof that the God of the Jews is NOT Allah.

If the God of the Jews is not Allah, then Muslims have been thoroughly Decieved by the entity called Allah.

Qur'an 17:8
It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, but if ye repeat (the crime) We shall repeat (the punishment), and We have appointed hell a dungeon for the disbelievers.

It is obvious from the verse above that if Allah is the "WE", he cannot also be the "YOUR"!

Is it not easier, clearer and better for Allah to say:
Qur'an 17:8
It may be that WE your Lord will have mercy on you, but if ye repeat (the crime) We shall repeat (the punishment), and We have appointed hell a dungeon for the disbelievers.

The above is a Perfect revision by a mortal man isn't it!?

But this Qur'an 17:8 is obviously a Slip of Tongue from someone trying very hard to impersonate the God of Israel!

Questions :
1. Is it a problem to you if Allah is not the same as the God of the Jews referred to in verse 8?
2. Can you show any prophecy in the Scripture of the Jews (the Old Testament) where the God of Israel promised them that they would commit mischief Twice resulting in them been enslaved Twice?
3. From the Qur'an, are mushrikins also servants of Allah? In history, who were the two servants nations of Allah that punished the Jews?
4. Is it a slip of tongue that Allah used the phrase "Your Lord" rather than "Ourselves or We" as Allah is portrayed to speak?




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Qur'an 17:4-8
vs4 - And We decreed for the Children of Israel in the Scripture: Ye verily will work corruption in the earth twice, and ye will become great tyrants.
vs5 - When the first of the warnings came to pass, We sent against you Our slaves (servants) given to terrible warfare: They entered the very inmost parts of your homes; and it was a warning (completely) fulfilled.
vs6 - Then did We grant you the Return as against them: We gave you increase in resources and sons, and made you the more numerous in man-power.
vs7 - If ye did well, ye did well for yourselves; if ye did evil, (ye did it) against yourselves. So when the second of the warnings came to pass, (We permitted your enemies) to disfigure your faces, and to enter your Temple as they had entered it before, and to visit with destruction all that fell into their power.
vs8 - It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, but if ye repeat (the crime) We shall repeat (the punishment), and We have appointed hell a dungeon for the disbelievers.

Note:
1. The Enemies of Israel (vs7) are the slaves of Allah (vs 5)
2. The slaves of Allah are Muslims (vs 5)
3. Allah is not the Lord of the Jews (Children of Israel)

Well said my brother. . let me first be reading responses.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus taught his disciples how to love their neighbours and help one another as believers those things are practiced by different religions throughout the world but there is one thing that no other religion can do:

The assignment Jesus gave his disciples so even though there are likes of Judas among them due to imperfection that assignment must continue to be carried out with the help of God's Holy Spirit and no false religions can do it.

So how can someone IDENTIFY the group that is doing the work Jesus assigned to his disciples?

Haa
Most toxic people I ever met are from this self acclaimed discreet fifu. They can be loving somewhere else or masking up by internet.


By my own observation, they are a fifu to avoid.

PoliteActivist:
Why must you be walking with anybody??

You will never walk alone.

...If are alone,


you are alone brother.

I only walk with wise Nairalanders.


I know them by their posts.

Church doesn't have the power to divorce any marriage in Nigeria. Only court.



Let him go to court.



Better still, let him contact a marriage counselor.
Selfishness is mostly the reason most marriages don't work.

Aemmyjah:
What has beard got to do with the conversation?

I thought you'll defend that Papa does not preach money, you said beards.


Personally, I'm not not a fan of beard, anyone who wants to grow one, there's no problem...

Why does daddy G. O like preaching money?
Is that his calling?

Is it because of Goya oil of bishop Oyedepo that is making you to think like this?
Sorry o.

MaxInDHouse:
If you're truly sure that it's delusion after so many years that you've known Jehovah's Witnesses do you think mockery or antagonism can shake our faith?

Well Jesus have brothers that each prospective citizen of God's kingdom must recognize {Matthew 25:34-46} whoever fails to acknowledge them is playing with his or her salvation.
Those who are wise as EAGLES will gather round the BODY of Christ's brothers:

So in response they said to him: “Where, Lord?” He said to them: “Where the BODY is, there also the EAGLES will be gathered together.” Luke 17:37

Of course all these are DELUSION, not so?

Only deluded don't, like mad people, know they live in delusion.

Your Deluded Majesty.

Aemmyjah:
I'm laughing in pastorpreneur tongue
'Bring money and receive blessings prophecy "

Can you send please paste your picture with your grown beard here?

MaxInDHouse:
You know that without getting assurance from me there's big trouble for you regarding what the judgment day will mean for you yet you're dribbling yourself.
Well all i said is:
"go and worship your God while i worship mine"
I can't figure out how that has turn to fight if you're sure of your God!

Hahahaha.
That your GB will seat with God on judgement day is delusion ProMax.

MaxInDHouse:
That's good since we have no reason pestering one another so go and worship your God while i worship mine!

No fight nah.

Emusan:
This looks like the transcript from the videos.

The funny thing is he didn't even know that the video is against his claim, he was deceived with the title just as Watchtower is deceiving him with fake love and smile.

In fact, the first video is from an exjws, that is to tell you the length he can go to look for validation.

He was the first to comment on this thread advised his fellow JWs to stay away, he is the same person parading this thread.

Very pathetic!

He is blinded by conceit