MaxInDHouse: This shows you're not intelligent at all!
People accusing TB Joshua are former members of his church and i'm here telling you that their accusations is not strong enough to judge the dead man so how do you expect me to accuse someone i never attended his worship center? What i know about Kumuyi i've told you: He used the artistic impressions found in our books to make his magazines and changed all the subjects mentioned. Where we talked about Paradise on Earth with humans and animals enjoying life to the full Kumuyi told his followers that it's heaven. Apart from that i don't know anything else about your pastor as i never attended his worship center. But there are Nairalanders who are former members of Kumuyi's worship center claiming that he is a cultist. So if BBC decides to grant interviews to such ones they will surely speak against your pastor just as these ones are doing against TB Joshua!
Hypocrisy. Why don't you believe in the reports of the Ex - Jws and the disfellowshiped members when they testify against your organization?.
The 'apostates' Sabi leak secrets. Dó you remember Temple777 thread as a former JW's on this platform?
I have read plenty of your responses here, if you have no access to Kumuy's church and lifestyle, how do you come about classifying him as diabolical?
I suppose I am not getting any response from either of you. I will go ahead and give my thoughts on this issue.
First, it is possible for you to be Spirit filled and anointed but still get one or somethings wrong, if not for any other reason but for the fact that you are MAN. Even John the Baptist at some point missed something concerning the Lord:
Matt.11v2 - And when John had heard in prison about the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples
Matt.11v3 - and said to Him, "Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another?"
And the Lord responded
Matt.11.6 - And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me."
I can only hope the reason you feel T.B. Joshua is diabolical is because you witnessed some of the diabolical things he did and you weighed them on the word of God and found them wanting.
It would be sad for you to hold your position based on hearsay or if you advanced the documentary of the BBC which has never been known to preach Christ. If the BBC was fair and unbiased, why not present both sides of the TB Joshua story, I mean interviewing those who are against him and those who are for him. That would have been more balanced and nuanced
Let's say T.B Joshua was diabolical, even though He claimed he preached Jesus Christ, Is it your place to judge another man's servant?
Matt.7 v1 - Do not judge and criticize and condemn others, so that you may not be judged and criticized and condemned yourselves.
Rom.14 v 4 - Who are you to judge another's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.
If the Holy Spirit revealed it to you, Did the Spirit say you should come out and say the man was diabolical? What express commissions were you clearly given by the Spirit on T.B Joshua?
I mean no offence my seniors, I'm only asking questions.
Shalom and God bless. May we all find the truth. Amen.
I don't want to jump to conclusions yet. I know BBC has a name to protect being a global media of long time standing. However, I can't say I fully believe them nor T. B. Joshua and SCOAN. Bisola and Acomon jointly made a documentary about ten years before the death of the prophet. The documentary was swiftly countered by another from SCOAN.
I tried to link up with the BBC podcasts on their website, I discovered that another part of the documentary will be aired on 24/01/2024. I think we have to see the ending of documentary before conclusions.
Lonestar124: The thing is there is my container of goods am expecting from turkey for all for almost seven months, it is has not arrived in the country I based, until yesterday, my sister instruct me to call one of her family pastor to pray for me.
I was little redundant, but I later called him, he told me the goods will arrived on Tuesday next week..
He chastised me to be giving my tithes, which I don't do, me I don't believe in all these things as an atheist, but am beginning to change my mind the way I understand God.
Can you believe my agent called me this morning that the goods has just arrived Liberia my Based..
This is a true life story, I can not call this miracle a coincidence as I usually do ..am still surprised it happens the way the man of God proclaim it.. there is spiritual power my people.
Tomorrow I will be giving this testimony in any church in location...our God is Merciful indeed.
Never doubt what God can do with his faithful servants.. enjoy your day my fellow Nairalanders.
It is because of light we have shadows. Many are walking under the shadows. That's why they don't accept the light. Better still, if you believe in God and keep his rules, God will tell you what is going on rather than through a man of God.
God is real. There are still real Men of God. God still shows faithfulness to His true worshippers.
The Jehovah's Witnesses's organization has as one of its prime doctrines of 1914 return of Jesus and thereafter began his invisible presence and rulership over his discreet slaves. In the recent waves of ' New Lights ' certain teachings have been discarded, modified and new ones embraced. The latest of these is the wearing of beard by choice not as a requirement as formerly taught and practiced. Since the death of the founder,. Charles Taxes Russell, many things have changed and splinter groups arose due to internal wranglings and leadership tussles. Many in recent times have left the organization by disagreeing with some doctrines, or a disfellowshiped. In certain European countries, litigations are ongoing for various reasons with the States,. Notable among whose are Spain, Norway and few others.
In a recent convention in Puerto Rico, the topic addressed here was considered and it seems to be jettisoned in no distant future.
Bendy: Hello Nairalanders, do you think God really sends people to hell?
Personally, I believe God does not send people to hell; they go there themselves. God is rather the one saving people from hell. Please share your thoughts.
If you're reading this, stop giving MIRACLE healers your hard earned money. MIRACLE healing is fake. Go to hospital when you are sick
Guys stop giving these pulpit bandits your hard earned money. Whoever or whatever made the universe will NEVER EVER EVER NEVER need your money for A N Y T H I N G whatsoever.
Any god that needs money for anything should use his power to collect it from CBN or IMF or better still sit down and create money in any currency for himself.
I beg to differ. My wife had incurable disease as diagnosed in University Teaching Hospital, Ibadan. We cried to God, more than 15 years now, she is perfectly healed. I had bad eyesight, also tested in the same UCH by a friend, a professor. I attended RCCG March 2023 special programme, now I don't use glasses again.
So after hospital fails according to your submission, what next?
And who is more unjust than one who invents a lie about God or says, ‘It has been inspired to me,’ while nothing has been inspired to him, and one who says, ‘I will reveal [something] like what God revealed.’ And if you could but see when the wrongdoers are in the overwhelming pangs of death while the angels extend their hands, [saying], ‘Discharge your souls! Today you will be awarded the punishment of [extreme] humiliation for what you used to say against God other than the truth and [that] you were, toward His verses, being arrogant.’ [Quran, 6:93]
Do you think Mohammed himself is any better than T.B. Joshua? Give reasons.
Ttipsy: so what do you think should be the solution? Is it not surprising to you that people still talk about Biafra even after so many years.
You can fool some of the people some of the time; you cannot fool all the people all the time. It is a matter of time. Igbos will still be president in Nigeria.
Let's just be a bit patient. I also belong to this Yoruba Nation Movement. I begin to see that violence cannot get us there. Awolowo, Tinubu were not in support of one Nigeria. Tinubu was preaching regional integration but had to change Awolowo's principle and aligned with the north to wrest power. It was not easy. We abuse him but the thing would have passed to Atiku. As Awolowo suggested to the great Zik, until the south and middle belt unit against the core north. It is going to be as usual. Enough of fruitless abuses and strategize
MaxInDHouse: Ọmọ if you say you know but don't believe it simply means you have nothing to do with what those believing in them says so why are you trying to kick against one in favour of another?
Happy New Day. I know you don't believe in New Year.
This fellow you are arguing with is a huge joke.
If he studied the Bible, he got confused like Tai Solarin and became an atheist. Has that changed God or removed from His Majesty?