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BeardedmeatR:
Bro na lie o, forget. Pray make evil men no reason your matter.

I pray o.

I don't belong to that category. I know by experience that things happen.


I just want to pull the legs of the OP.




He said he didn't believe in things like this.
His wife wants to change his notion but didn't reason with the woman and he is seeking advice on Nairaland.
Many lives have been destroyed by the stupidity that what is obtainable in the community is not real In the universities you see sacrifices all around. We are not òyìnbós. Evil and mysterious things are real.

I read some People's post here and marvel.

Cheers bro.

BeardedmeatR:
Your sarcasm is noted 😁

How? What you don't believe cannot harm you.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ instead taught that His followers are not to be deceived by men who come claiming that God or even the Messiah is to be found at a certain location or place.
God is not found in your church buildings or your locations.

Where is your church where God is found?
Or God church is not accessible in your church?

I once asked you that I want to join your church or organization or ministry you have not responded.



Your organization doesn't need people?

Good one .


More grace Sir.

Road2Success:
Hello nairalanders,

Please I will want you all to read this. though I am not a good writer. I rented an apartment somewhere on the Lagos island. We are just 4 in the compound. When I parked into my apartment my wife came with a pregnancy but we lost the baby when she gave birth to the boy. The following year she got pregnant again, The baby also died the day she gave birth. I am not a religious person but my wife is closer to God. She has been telling me about this compound but I just don't have any reason to think or suspect anything.

Lemme tell you in my compound if one of us is working the others will lose there job. I have no reason to be suspecting anything untill I heard that one of the tenants is owning our landlord 2 years rent and our landlord didn't raise voice. In this Lagos that I know landlord don't joke with house rent. Our landlord don't bother us for rent. Sometimes I will be the one sending the house rent to him without him even asking.

I also heard that was the same thing that happened to previous occupants. They lived there without paying for many years and the landlord didnt disturb them.

I won't say our live is better in this house. We are just struggling to survive. Currently I am the only one working while others don't have a job. I am beginning to doubt if our landlord is truly a generous man as we do called him, since he don't bother us for rent.

My wife have lost two pregnancy in this house. I have been jobless many times in this house. I honestly need people opinion on this matter.

Is this house diabolic or the landlord is just a generous man

Moderators please help me move this to front page

Since you don't bother yourself with any spiritual nonsense, just live your life without fear. All that is happening is mere coincidence.
Don't worry,. Be happy.
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gohf:
a problem to who? To you? And you are?

What is my business with those names you mentioned, did they send me, did I send them.

Like I wrote only free will offering is collected, you are free to come, to give, to leave.

Have you ever been to Daystar before

Please keep your cheers o , thank you
You don't even know if I was an ex top pastor in rccg, you don't even know there are men of God who don't take tithe in this country. Its funny that you think some of this churches of God are built on tithe.

Do you know what crusade ministry is, to you people everything is church, and the reason you go to church it's not to serve freely without expecting anything

Its people like that Jesus said you think you're doing something that makes you different from sinners, listen, even sinners won't give or borrow those who can't give back to them.

So someone cannot decide to teach and pray for people for free, o he Pharisees. If I don't want to collect money from anybody how does it affect you

I will not be surprised if you were part of those who attacked TB Joshua who said give to the poor

My house shall be called a house of prayer not a den of thieves.

Did I say people should not give. I only nobody should come and pay me for anything. If someone wants to be thankful they should give, if they don't want to they should go

The question still remains. Giving is an age long part of Christianity and even in the Old Testament estament. Did Jesus condemn it, no. Did he condemn tithing No. Paul by choice decided not to be paid anything. His choice to be considered as doctrine, No. TB Joshua, I don't judge any Man of God. Association is by choice. If I don't like what you are doing, I don't associate with you.

Are the Men of God, thieves? I don't judge. If I am convinced that what you are doing is for God, it doesn't matter which ministry, as led, I give according to capacity.

We don't need to fight.
Good luck in your ministry.
Seeing you on top.




May His work prosper in your hands. Amen.

AntiChristian:
One of my clerics? Is Apostle Suleiman your Cleric? Stop showing us you are a ninny!

Just shut up you won't!

Now we know you have nothing upstairs!
Cheers!

Aha friend. I can perceive violence in your response.
Peace

MaxInDHouse:
Please have you guys finished typing what you want to contribute?
Because you guys bore me with your madness!

Anglican separated from Catholic because King Henry VIII wanted a divorce.

Apostle Ayọ Babalola had a vision of three palm leaves one luxuriant, one withering, one dried.
He said,' those who would reject his message would dry up like the last and those who would follow him wholeheartedly like the first.

Bishop Oyedepo had 18 hours vision.
This became the foundation of LFC

The name The Redeemed Christian Church of God was giving to the illiterate founder in a 'vision', that became the pillar of the church.

JWs also by 'revelation' or 'light' is to inherit the earth and those who are not part are apostates. By your teaching in this thread: those who don't take your teaching have ' sinned' against the Holy Ghost.


Is this not your community truth?

AntiChristian:
Kindly use the free brain you are given!
Almost too often when you type you type thrash like a toddler with no atom of sense!

No be true? The other day one of your clerics in Niger state had 84 wives!
How did he get them? How many crusades or house to house preaching of MaximumSide can generate those in this man' s compound?


Instead of putting fatwa on him, encourage him i.e. the young Alfa that is impregnating those houris.


Cheers brother.

gohf:
are you not lying and bearing false witness

No. The way you opened the Thread is the problem. Most big churches today start as fellowships in someone's sitting room. Imagine if Catholic, Anglican, RCCG, LFC don't take offerings and tithes. How will they cope with their workers?

Just invite us to your fellowship. If I ever come there or any other fellowship and offerings are forbidden, I will never go back again.

I see giving as a source of blessings from God.
My mentality though.
Cheers!

AntiChristian:
Kindly use the free brain you are given!
Almost too often when you type you type thrash like a toddler with no atom of sense!

My friend are you Antime also?

MaxInDHouse:
Farewell!

Seeing you in the next post .

AntiChristian:
At least the Shari'a has a punishment for fornication and adultery unlike other laws

Who will now mete out the Shari's on this Islamic teacher?

Anyways, since Islam grows by sword and/or population. If he can't do jihad, at least, he can multiply rapidly.
Imagine him impregnating 20 students a year for the next ten years!

MaxInDHouse:
Your contribution is well noted Sir, thanks!

Thanks for thanking me.
Have a blessed day

MaxInDHouse:
Whenever we see someone speaking to us about God in most cases we do look at the one speaking instead of concentrating on what will be the outcome if we should put what this person is saying into practice therefore when we angrily speak against God's messengers, verbal abuse, restrict them or physically hurt them God will forgive us if we are doing so with our faithful heart condition that's why Jesus prayed for the Roman soldiers punishing him {Luke 23:34} for speaking against the religious leaders of the Jewish community thinking Jesus was a blasphemer just as he was accused {Matthew 26:65} the same thing occurred when faithful Jewish Pharisee called "Saul" stood against the congregation of God and made sure many of them were imprisoned {Act 7:58; 9:1-2} and few were killed so Stephen prayed for Saul because he was doing it all out of faithfulness to his God! Act 7:60

So no matter what a faithful person may do in his faithfulness to God it will be forgiven him but when does the sin against man (forgivable) change to sin against God's Holy Spirit (unforgivable)?

After carefully observing the outcome of what a seemingly stupid person whom we thought is blaspheming God is doing and we can perceive that his works are yielding positivity regarding the fruitage of God's Holy Spirit for instance after Jesus' execution only his disciples later saw him alive because he has become a spirit none of the Jews who weren't his disciples saw him again after his death {John 14:19} it becomes more difficult for Jesus' disciples to preach about their leader the so called impostor who has been judged and executed under the Jewish constitution! Act 4:18; 5:28

So how can anyone sin against God's Holy Spirit now that Jesus is no more physically around?

Well Jesus told his disciples that what God had promised through the mouth of His prophets will be received by his disciples if they remain faithful to the course so they must wait for this promise in order for them to benefit maximally as the first set of Jews to receive the blessings their God promised regarding the coming of Christ! Act 1:8; Joel 2:28-30

At last God fulfilled His promises and the first set of Jews who accepted Jesus as Christ were all baptized together in a room {Act 2: 1-3} as they began speaking in different tongues so that all the visitors in Jerusalem heard these Jews speaking in their native language the sacred secrets of God's Kingdom! Act 2:4-12


Now this is where we are going!

After witnessing this event some observing the BORN AGAIN Jewish Christians thought and said "they are drunk" {Act 2:13} this is surely a sin but it is committed against the men who are doing something unnatural so God won't charge it against those saying they're drunk.

Then Peter stood up along with the 11 surviving apostles of Jesus to address the Jews that day!

After delivering his speech most of the Jews were helped to remember that what they're seeing is in fulfilment of the promise their God made to their forefathers in the days of prophet Joel! Act 2:18; Joel 2:28-30

When they heard this they became sober to the point of asking Peter and the rest:

"Men, brothers, what should we do?" Act 2:37

Instantly those accusing their own brothers of drunkenness changed and began begging them for what they should do so as not to be left out from gaining what their God promised!

Remember most of these people were present when Pontius Pilate asked what should be done to Jesus of Nazareth and they all screamed with one voice "impale (execute) him!"John 19:14-15

But now after seeing the fulfilment of what their God promised through the prophets happening to the followers of Jesus they felt really bitter and wanted to become members of the most vilified Jewish group in the first century "followers of Jesus"

This is how to sin against God's Holy Spirit!
Whoever raise his tongue against what they all saw that very day which is the fulfilment of the promises of their God simply because he felt irritated by the activities of Jesus' disciples as one united family of peace loving worshipers after seeing God's word being fulfilled in their midst will never be forgiven because such a person is no longer fighting against those humans he/she can see but actually fighting against the spirit of God working out what is fine in the midst of imperfect humans! Galatians 5:22-23

That is when they will begin to say all religions are welcome to them because they don't want to acknowledge that they've seen the one and only approved group in whose midst God's Holy Spirit is doing it's work! James 2:18-26

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Note the bolded
Community truth

englishmart:
I guess it's subsidized in Nigeria, or the quality here is very substandard.

No the quality is different.

castrokins:
I Am Not A Lawyer

You are not a liar joor

gohf:
in what way is such a church claiming to be holier than Jesus

Of course not, it is the greedy who would despise the very Lord and claim to follow him


Luke.16.13 - No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Luke.16.14 - And the Pharisees also, who were covetous and loved money, heard all these things: and they derided him.
Luke.16.15 - And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

You are not getting it. The OP says they don't give offerings at all. That is a lie. So they don't use any instruments, no welfare, no accommodation, no publicity including data to access Nairaland.
That is a lie.

That is not a Bible believing church. Even Jesus saw a widow giving her last as offering, rather than returning the money, she was commended for her faith in God.



So, Sir, what the ministry is denying in the beginning will be introduced later.

That is hypocrisy.

tctrills:
You are wary of a church that does not take your money.

No, I am wary of a church to that claim holier than Jesus!

God punish them

AntiChristian:
You really need a Psychiatric examination!

Hahaha

AntiChristian:
Where in the post did they say this?

We should ask you cos it seems you need a psychiatric evaluation soonest!

Have you taken your camel urine today?

AntiChristian:
So you must be Satan to know what's in the heart of a Satanic grandmother!

Aha, for you to willfully deny the child was dumped by those who professionally conduct research and discharged their duty.
Don't you and thy memorize the Quran?

Is there anything wrong with you?

AntiChristian:
Quote where Allah mentioned "Bible" in the Qur'an!

And Quote the whole verses in full with the context!




1. The Qur'an never mentioned the Bible anywhere. The Tawraat and Injeel are not the Bible.

Allaah says about the Jews (interpretation of the meaning): “Do you (faithful believers) covet that they will believe in your religion in spite of the fact that a party of them (Jewish rabbis) used to hear the Word of Allaah (the Tawraat), then they used to change it knowingly after they understood it?” [al-Baqarah 2:75]

Allaah also said (interpretation of the meaning): “Among those who are Jews, there are some who displace words from (their) right places and say: ‘We hear your word (O Muhammad) and disobey,’ and ‘Hear and let you (Muhammad) hear nothing.’ And Raa’ina [in Arabic this means, ‘Be careful, listen to us and we listen to you,’ whereas in Hebrew it means ‘an insult.’] with a twist of their tongues and as a mockery of the religion (Islam). And if only they had said, ‘We hear and obey,’ and ‘Do make us understand,’ it would have been better for them, and more proper, but Allaah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not except for a few.” [al-Nisaa’ 4:46]

Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “So because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard. They change the words from their (right) places and have abandoned a good part of the Message that was sent to them. And you will not cease to discover deceit in them, except a few of them. But forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds). Verily, Allaah loves al-Muhsineen (good-doers).” [al-Maa’idah 5:13]

So it becomes quite clear that the ways in which the Children of Israel tampered with the Tawraat and Injeel include the following:
Changing
Omitting
Adding things and attributing to Allah words that He did not say
Misinterpreting the words of Allah.

When Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) was sent, the [b]original Tawraat and Injeel had already been altered and distorted. [/b]Allaah revealed the Qur’aan to His Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and guaranteed that He Himself would preserve it, as He says (interpretation of the meaning): “Verily We: it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e., the Qur’aan) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption).” [al-Hijr 15:9]

Does Mohammed or any institutions have these original copies?


This is the reason the Jews called him (Mohammed) a mad man twisting their writs and history.


Are these verses part of those Mohammed received when he was bewitched or the verses Satan cast into his mouth?

AntiChristian:
There's no verse there!

The verse acted upon is in the heart of the grandmother - satanic verses

PerfectMan24:
Say love is wicked

Rather, senseless love is.


Love with sense is not wicked but kind and beautiful.

What do I say now?

Dannyfan:
I come accross this message a week ago on Vanguard News Page on Facebook, I was so confused that I had to conclude it's a fake news, because Apostle Selman is someone I love so much as a pastor. Just yesterday I saw the update on a friend status. I had to ask him what he has to say on the topic and if he had the message himself.
Now I am bringing this topic to nairaland so that people will have to contribute and share their opinions. All your contributions are greatly welcome.
Note:- please you can share me if you have this message by Apostle Selman.


http://community.vanguardngr.com/m/discussion?id=4565467%3ATopic%3A3013632

Which kind thing be dis na?

JohnnA1:
This one must be a genius oh; see how him eye dey shine like torch.

Omo Yoruba ATATA!

Future world beater!

World beater not chest beater

AntiChristian:
What are you disputing? Allah revealed it in the Qur'an about Moses and the red sea!

So we believe in the Qur'an not the Bible.

But the Quran asked you to consult the Bible when you are in doubt or not clear about a thing.



Just aqoute one verse of the Quran that talks about the corruption of the Bible.

AntiChristian:
Where are Muslims told to fornicate with Christians and kill the bride?

You didn't read the original post.

Read it, them comment

Jennyclay:
If you support her with application fee nko? Mtcheeww.

Men should learn to help and not expect anything in return. Nawa oo!

If the lady decides not to marry you after spending on her, it's her choice and not a sin against God.

Biko, don't spoil her show oo!

Obirin?!