₦airaland Forum

Shooyie:
He is very brilliant, intelligent and diligent. Now, we know beyond doubt that there is something special about Prof Yemi Osinbajo and I want him to become president by 2023.

Only a brilliant person like this could right the wrongs by Buhari

Can't any good news come from Maiduguri for once?

No, may be in your area. It should be a local problem.

Janosky:
2 Timothy 3:16
New Living Translation
All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right"

How many millions of dollars or naira is the meaning of the sacrificial offering of Ephesians 5:2 & Hebrews 10:10?

Those employees were sacked for not bringing in the much expected Benjamins.
Your stupidity is luminous!

When I saw NWT, I didn't bother to know the content. It is a dubious translation.
Anyways, the meaning you give to sacrifice does not make sense. I don't have any respect for you for being dishonest. Previous discussions show that.
Just lift the meaning of sacrifice from any dictionary here and let us all see.
The RCCG sacrifice you brought means something else, but, because you have been taught not to see any good in whatever others are doing, you run them down. Your multimillion dollar printing houses and other projects are run by money, giving by members except your organisation print money.

As long as it is still a human organisation, money is needed.
Even Jesus had Judas as treasurer. What work was He doing? He got the money somehow.
Friend,I don't see honesty in your argument.



I still maintain, who gives your GB to remove blood - bought saints from grace?
Just answer.

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Workch:
No religion makes sense including Christianity

You try jare. Read the Bible anyways.

parkervero:
@bold That would still be term as rhetorical question. So far the question is religion-centric.

Now, the qn verse up there still maintains it meaning "do not ask questions". You or tafir calls it rhetorical question but we call it "question" just like the qn itself calls it. You asked yourself the same questions the verse implores you not to ask and led you to abandoned Islam for JW. That's the reason the qn gives in verse 102( not to leave religion). There were no rhetorical questions in what made the people in verse 102 to leave islam(religion) other than coming in contact with the truth found in the answers supplied to the questions being asked. No one leaves a religion like that if there were no concrete reasons. The same applied to your situation.

I can't see rhetorical question either.

MaxInDHouse:
Well it takes great courage and boldness to start thinking outside the religion daddy and mommy passed to us.
The first thing we need to know is that these things were passed onto them as well so it has become like their heritage. So it's only humility that makes one to ask "why didn't they ask further about these things like i am doing now?"
We shouldn't forget that there's life anxieties taking their time, energy, resources and of course their thinking ability. So most of them only have few time to spend meditating on what they were told about God!

Neighbour, I agree with you 100% on this one. Yet, if a prophet told them about sex orgy and wine in thereafter, these things are forbidden here on earth.
Does it make sense?

Innocent children on errands as terrorists are said to be deceived by these infallible assurances from the prophet. Some of them on a mission to suicide bombing wrap their manhood in towel, believing that when they open their eyes on the other side, the girls are waiting for them for sex romp.

If those then were not thinking why are people now.
As you rightly posited, religion does not give way to questioning. Even now.

As the OP asked, I prefer the cock and bull story of an IFA priest or hinduism than would not harm anyone to a holy murderer of a prophet.
Imaging a world without Islam since it's beginning.

Dtruthspeaker:
Imagine, they complain about a way that does not work, we tell them that there is a Way that is sweet and very Good and that we are on it and that they can join us.

They refuse to come over and yet they still villify us and our Way.

Is this not madness?

It is joor

Life doesn't make sense, agreed.


Try the one in Christ, you would suddenly see sense in life.



......in Him was life.....

ChineduChinedu:
Please help, I need advice, I am very confused man, I don't know what to do in this situation

There is this girl I met in Lagos she help me find a house in Lagos from there we started dating.

I Asked her to marry me and get pregnant for me. Later she got pregnant for me.
She started disturbing me about marriage rights.

On the wedding day I discovered that she has 3 children for one man.
I have asked her several times even before she got pregnant she keep saying no

A day before the wedding, one of my uncle called me and tell me that one babalawo said that the woman I want to marry has 3 kids already.

All that day I wasn't myself I woke her up at midnight and forced the truth out of her
She admitted and start begging me to forgive her, she said she has been looking for the best time to tell me. All this are happening on our wedding day, she beg me not to tell anyone that it can be secrets between me and her àlone, I insisted that I must tell my people from my state enugu to Lagos

My people discouraged me and said I should thank God for revealing this early.
That's how I cancelled the church wedding.

Court marriage 30th September
Church wedding 2nd October
But Before that wedding day, we did court marriage, I told her that I don't want to do court marriage because if she cheat on me I will divorce her and loose my half of my money she got angry, the first day we didn't talk, 2nd day same, Then 3rd day she start packing her loads, I beg her to stay that we have few days to church wedding she insisted that If I don't do the court that I should cancel the church wedding that she can't trust me without court marriage

We did the court marriage, without my parents consent cuz it didn't come from my heart, her junior brother is the one that sighn for me in the court

I don't know what to do in this situation oo

Her first son is 13 years
2nd son 8 years
3rd girl 6 years
And now she is pregnant for me aa

Am 30 years while I don't know her real age

We have lived together for 8 months before I could discover this
And during this period we have been together
She controls me alots and that make me sad
She shout at me too
If ask me to do something for her and I refuse it becomes problem m

Please what do I do ?

Miracle children! On the wedding day your wife told you she had three children already. You are expecting the fourth one.

Congrats.



Joke apart, you were not bold enough to call off the wedding. Do the needful now. The whole thing is based on lies and deception. Why live the rest of your life in regret?

Keemsleek005:
I know olu kere and ogoga as always been there all these years, which means ogoga as been a king before olu kere and now ikere as to kings just like ibadan olu badan and Alafin of oyo. Then when i school in ikere i used to think olu kere was the main king while ogoga was a rival.

You don't get the history right.

Fayemi, ọ kare o

Janosky:
How does 6 million gullible sheeples fleeced of their hard earned money translate to sacrifice and compare to 9 million JWs?

Sparrow's DELUSION is very luminous

Your Pastorpreneurs sacked over 40 employees of his business franchise & treated them like trash without severance package, you are more daft than I ever thought


Sifia pains of a gullible sheeple, "the wealth of Job was not secured because he didn't tithe"
Pastorpreneur GIBBERISH to fleece gullible sheeples .
1 Corinthians 5:9-13, expel the wicked from your midst", not fleece them & pass the loot

Who gives your GB authority to remove people bought by the blood of Jesus from grace?

You haven't asked your primary six child the meaning of sacrifice?

40 pastors were sacked out of many thousands? They were found wanting, many thousands still remain.

You have not commented on why dissatisfied members are not cheerfully giving but are afraid of persecution from even their blood relations? Living in bondage.
Delusional of infinite dimensions.

Scientifically, null. Mythologically yes.

Janosky:
Your Pastorpreneurs successes in pulling a veil over your power of reasoning has proven your gullibility luminously.

Which sacrificial offering has Sparrow given to compensate for the sacrificial offering of Jesus Christ @ Ephesians 5:2 & Hebrews 10:10?
Sparrow where is the so called "good deeds" in your being fleeced by rebranded extortion alias "Golden sacrifice" & "Next level sacrifice" ?


MightySparrow knows his fellow hypocrites & wolves in sheep's clothing, Sparrow does NOT know JEHOVAH'S faithful servants



Your organisation used over a hundred years to gather nine million dummy people, this man used less than thirty years to get more. He is happy doing God's work while a Sad - you - see, you are, are whining. Neighbour, your weeping doesn't charge anything.

MightySparrow LYING on this public forum like kilode, the screenshots proven it.
1 Corinthians 3:23 & John 17:7,JEHOVAH'S servants belong to their God, JEHOVAH.
But, Sparrow & 6 million gullible sheeples slavishly worship a Pastorpreneur who sacks "his ministers" (na so Mighty Sparrow call them) from his business centers at his whim & Caprice.
Since 2016, "Next level" rebranded extortion is NOT bringing in the much expected Benjamins
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,Six million members in about 30 years compared to 9 million in 134 years! Sacrifice, yes sacrifice. Go back to JSS1 or tell your primary six children to tell you the meaning. The caption means exactly what it reads.

Golden, next level..,....all in place.
So far no one forced them to give. If anyone does not believe in what the pastors are doing, they quit.
If anyone quits JWs they are to be abhorred like shit.
The sacrificial givers here are free in their Lord, in JWs (hypocrisy laden organisation), the fear of ill - treatment upon leaving is unthinkable, holding fearful, dissatisfied members. People living in bondage are giving cheerfully in your organisation?
Delution is the motto of your organisation.

Janosky:
"build a Church building"
Sparrow,You have now properly clarified your previous statement Oyedepo' s first building was a church as a corper.
MightySparrow:

"...Oyedepo' s first building was a church as a corper long before becoming a pastor....."
In your Bible,is Church a building?
Is your Pastorpreneurs teaching you Church is a building?


Kingdom hall is NOT a church, learn something new today , gullible sheeple .
JWs "contribute voluntarily" cheerfully in the spirit & letter of 2 Corinthians 9:7 & Luke 21:1-4.
In both scriptures, there is no connection to "paying/payment"?
For what services?

Your Pastorpreneurs have pulled a veil over your SENSE of reasoning.
Sparrow the gullible sheeple dey equate his Pastorpreneurs cash and carry rebranded "next level" extortion as sacrificial offering (exemplified @Ephesians 5:2 & Hebrews 10:10).
I challenge you Sparrow to tell Nairaland which payment you have ever given to adequately compensate for the sacrificial offering of Jesus Christ @ Ephesians 5:2 & Hebrews 10:10.


That you render your spiritism services to hypocrites & wolves in sheep's clothing is not a yardstick to come to this public forum & FALSELY generalize.
Jehovah my God loathes spiritism gaan !
On Deuteronomy 18:10-12, all faithful servants of Jehovah my God pay heed.

Ok church is not a building, he used his allowances to build an auditorium for the church to meet. Was he ripping off the people, stealing their money. You have a warped mind, conditioned by GB not to see good in anybody's good deeds.
No matter how much you run people down and conceitedly judge them, making yourself judge over the church of Christ, does that change anything? Their successes are paining you.

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And it must. Your organisation used over a hundred years to gather nine million dummy people, this man used less than thirty years to get more. He is happy doing God's work while a Sad - you - see, you are, are whining. Neighbour, your weeping doesn't charge anything.


About spiritism, we know you people, you live among us.
Stop qouting scriptures, we know there, we know also your members and what they do, qouting with mouth and. what they do.

Allah, Muslims, Bloodshed

Janosky:
Ephesians 5:2 & Hebrews 10:10, Jesus Christ has done the sacrificial offering for sinful repentant humans serving his God & Father.
Your Pastorpreneurs rebranded extortion is NOT sacrificial offering, no DECEIVE yourself.

Your Pastorpreneur opened his first business centers "as a corper", that's what you mean.
Because Church/Congregation is Ekklesia, the people of JEHOVAH,called by His holy name, Acts15:14.

2 Corinthians 9:7 voluntary giving of Jehovah's servants is NOT rebranded extortion(alias "Golden sacrifice",Next level sacrifice (I don't have to school you how Nigerians despise "next level shenanigans) espoused by your Pastorpreneurs "under compulsion" alias Job's wealth was insecure because he did not pay tithes.

2. [b]If you talk about spiritism, you are quick to judge others.
. You are the one passing judgement & making FALSE claims.
Your customers consult you for spiritism & you come public forum they make noise
Continue DECEIVING yourself.

It is because your mind has been conditioned not to see good in others. He, Oyedepo, went for mandatory NYSC, in a village. He there used his allowances to build a church building for the villagers and left after his service. He wasn't the pastor or any one of the workers. So how did he open a business centre?Besides, all your kingdom halls are built by what? People don't contribute?
When we talk about sacrifice, it seems you don't know the meaning. When you dubiously want to give a word your own interpretation, you can give all manners of analyses. Sacrifice is the exact word, you don't know the meaning, go and rewrite WASC.



Spiritism and false claim? I don't have anything to gain or lose in making false claims. You live among us we know you Sir.

Janosky:
Hypocrite!!

Witch doctor pretending to be Christian.
You know those who consult your services are pretenders & hypocrites like you.

Deuteronomy 18:10-12 & Isaiah 44:25, JEHOVAH my God loathes spiritism.

Jehovah's servants have ZERO connection to spiritism.

1. The sacrificial offering you pointed out is for whom?

If you talk of Adeboye, He leads by example. Find out. Oyedepo' s first building was a church as a corper long before becoming a pastor.
So, in your organisation, you don't give, whatever name you call it.


2. If you talk about spiritism, you are quick to judge others.
Mind you, you live among us. We know you.

You can deceive yourself, not us!

DWJOBScom:
Twice a week abeg

Beautiful.

Others like Gehazi were seeking gold, looting vault, living large, he, I think, got the right thing.

No compulsory check on WhatsApp because of monitoring from my place of work. Mind at rest. This should be happening weekly at least one day.

Studying Africa in Europe! Plenty things to learn in her father's village.



Will they teach her Banga soup, owambe, witchcraft, Okija altar, bad governance, masquerades, agbero, Omo onile, ballot box snatching, Banditry, IPOBIAN, ESN, albino sacrifice , Yahoo, yahoo?

Your job defines you: no job, you cease to exist.

budaatum:
Boko Haeam did not "start as a harmless group of youths that wanted a new social order"! It's name alone means books (including Western Education) are haram, so how could it have possibly been formed by book qualifed graduates?

Tell me more about the beginning of Boko Haram please.

budaatum:
See. Even you say "Boko Haram are a reaction to oppression", though admittedly "in the wrong way". But sincerely, there is no wrong way to fight oppression. If you oppress me I reserve the right to bite you, twice.

It will get much worse before it gets any better, Sparrow. The "priviledged to rule" will oppress more to quell the "reaction to oppression" then the "reaction to the oppression" will increase and so on till one side breaks. Fortunately, the oppressed have nothing to lose and a lot to gain, which can't be said about the oppressors.

I like your analysis. If you really know the beginning of Boko Haram and how it was taken over by politicians and elites, you would understand my point.
IIT started as a harmless group of youths that wanted a new social order. These were graduates who could not find jobs.
Later, they started bombing churches, which are I think is wrong. Their weapons were kept in palaces and mosques, hailed when they attacked JTF.
Until they could not be tamed.
Today, many youths are in Boko Haram today not knowing why and what they are fighting.
They only understand Islam and Mohammad are mentioned.

greencard:
Is it possible for a Christian who is born again to get possessed by demon?

This is a serious question. Many have given all shades of views. This is one thing that many Christian don't understand. There are stages of demonic interaction with people. Mostly, by oppression, then to possession. There others in between. However, is possible. Possession means a state of mind when a person is totally under the control of demons.
If is possible to backslide, it is possible to be possessed.
That one is born again doesn't mean one cannot have incubus, succubus, attacks. It depends on where they are coming from.

Anyways ask Olukoya, He has experience in such things.

[quote author=budaatum post=106420465]Sparrow! You seriously believe people give a flying fuq about religious rewards more than their daily bread?

Forgive me, but believing hungry people are that pious is simply delusional. Even their imams aren't that deluded, despite what you choose toat their sword is turning against them that they are having a rethink.

The poverty in the north is man made. It for the privileged few to rule the poor. Banditry, Boko Haram are a reaction to oppression in the wrong way. This the effect of illiteracy.

Well, as you said, things could turn out to be better.

[quote author=budaatum post=106407278]The danger ahead is that the youths being oppressed in the North will rise up against their oppressors and free themselves from oppression. After all, you are aware Northerners are the most oppressed in Nigeria, right?

Not everyone in the North is hisbah! And Yoruba Muslims don't hisbah neither.[/quote
The only fight the northern Muslims are fighting is religious, not freedom. Their mindset has been programmed to be poor and be bigots. So, I don't see the teeming ignorant youths fighting for what they don't understand.