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KingdomTenets:
The content is not from Baba Adeboye but from me.
We all need to grow in Christ individually and not just rely solely on pastors. Like I shared in one of my videos, the antichrist will use many of them to teach false doctrine because of our extreme loyalty to men and not the Holy Spirit. It's important to check whatever anybody says with the Holy Spirit in other to overcome deceits in the body of Christ.
Thank you

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqrdPf2V1Xm1Igr-hkYo4KA

Why was Holy Ghost before someone brought the gospel you you? That everyone should grow in the corner of his house is a lie Sir. Provide a scripture to that.
2Ti.2:2; Heb.10: 25

This earth my brothe!

MaxInDHouse:
All is well so far you're aware that my God differs from yours i'm cool!

Your choice of believe and dogma ate what differ. There is only one God.
Your perception of God and interpretation you choose to esteem are what differ. No qualms. In Jesus time, there were Sadducees, Pharisees, etc, you only add another dimension to the whole lot. These groups were harassing people then, each with their perception, interpretation, and choice practices.

So brother continue to bask in your GB delusion. I free my mind from ironclad fallacious rules and doctrines

Cheers

MaxInDHouse:
I've told you times without number that the God you're serving totally differ from mine, but perhaps i need to iron out some facts on the matter.
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES aren't people who just wake up, choose one religion out of the existing religions around them and start associating, that is why it's difficult for many like you to understand us. You CHOOSE which of the religious groups around you that fits your innate desire so whenever you see people practicing some other forms of worship you assume that they just CHOOSE the same way you did.
But JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are not like that we examine critically all the forms of worship around us before we go for the one we are sure that is of the true God and everyday of our lives we keep working hard {Luke 13:24} to transform ourselves so as to FIT IN to pure worship! Ephesians 4:24
So your thinking and our thinking will never coincide {Luke 16:26} because you are not ready to change rather you just want to flow along with everyone else around you while we on the other hand are ever ready to make needed changes anytime we get the latest information.
If you must know, that is the main reason why you are seeing exjws around you, these ones were born by Witnesses and as they grow they discovered that they need to continue washing their robes {Revelations 7:14} but they're seeing other people around them making no such attempt nor stressing themselves yet claiming worshipers of God, so they decide to leave this continuous exertion {Matthew 11:12} for the easy way of life where they can always switch to any lane of their choice! Matthew 7:13-14
What baffles me is how they'll start accusing us when we stop associating with them since they're no more members of our spiritual family with whom we can rub minds! 2John 10-11
So my friend MightySparrow it's not about CHOICE but what God wants!

.All the same, your have not made any references to any commandment on the issue of birthdays. Christening, burial, wedding rites . All the practices and avoidance are based on GB conjectures. Separate real from fallacies. The children of Israel stood before 'standards' flag of each, theirtribes under the supervision of God. When God himself was the one given direct instructions to Moses.


And the children of Israel did according to all that the Lord commanded Moses: so they pitched by their standards, and so they set forward, every one after their families, according to the house of their fathers.
Numbers 2: 34

You won't allow people to have peace.. You defend your organisation as if you don't live among us and the naked hypocrisies. Why do I need to change to delusion. You are just an image maker like Lie Mohammed.

I serve Jehovah, no doctrinal harassments, we read the same Bible. Do invite me to fallacies and delusion.

I asked you to give definition of truth, you dodge.

digitalman2811:
The celebration of the anniversary of one's birth is a phenomenon of modern industrial society. It is connected to the rise of a scientific way of thinking and to new attitudes about children and childhood. Perfection of the calendar by the Egyptians and Mesopotamians enabled people to reckon exact birth dates, but ancient and classical cultures rarely celebrated birthdays, except for those of royalty. The early Catholic Church deemed birthday festivities to be pagan; [/b]more important was the name day, the commemoration of the patron saint whose name was attached to a child upon baptism. After the Protestant Reformation, Western cultures celebrated birthdays of royalty, presidents, and war heroes, but common folk seldom used the occasion of their own birth for special notice.
Many historical sources show that Christmas was not observed by Christians from Christ's time to about AD 300. Saturnalia (December 17-24) and Brumalia (December 25) continued as pagan celebrations by the Romans well into the fourth century. [b]The Catholic Encyclopedia, 1911 edition, in the article "Natal Day," records that the early Catholic church father, Origen, acknowledged:

In the Scriptures, no one is recorded to have kept a feast or held a great banquet on his birthday. It is only sinners like Pharaoh and Herod who make great rejoicings over the day in which they were born into this world.

During the fourth century, the emperor Constantine "converted" to "Christianity" and changed Sabbath keeping from the seventh to the first day of the week. Sunday was the day he had worshipped the sun as his god. This made it easier for the Romans to call their pagan December 25th winter solstice festival, in which they had celebrated the birth of the sun god, the birthday of the "Son of God."

The New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, says:

According to the hypothesis . . . accepted by most scholars today, the birth of Christ was assigned the date of the winter solstice (December 25 in the Julian calendar, January 6 in the Egyptian), because on this day, as the sun began its return to northern skies, the pagan devotees of Mithra celebrated the dies natalis Solis Invicti (birthday of the Invincible Sun). On Dec. 25, 274, Aurelian had proclaimed the sun-god principal patron of the empire and dedicated a temple to him in the Campus Martius. Christmas originated at a time when the cult of the sun was particularly strong at Rome.

Only in the fifth century did the Roman Catholic Church order that the birth of Christ be observed on December 25, the day of the old Roman feast of the birth of Sol, the sun god. They renamed this day "Christmas."
Source New Catholic's encyclopedia 1967

Which Bible passages dictate the type of wedding to do? The way to bury,? Feasts are made in the scriptures for reasons not mentioned. Are these real things or fallacies. There was a time television was devil's s box. Bend down boutique was for saints, weddings were conducted like funeral services.

All manners of man made laws and inferences. So because Catholic church declared birthday to be pagan practice, so what? Is that a doctrine. Wearing of white garment a doctrine, non wearing of shoes a doctrine.


Mourning of Jephthah's daughter yearly, Yom Kippur, were never criticised by any prophets.

While I agree that some of these can be curtailed to curb excesses, no clear commandments on them.


And Levi made him a great feast in his own house: and there was a great company of publicans and of others that sat down with them.
Luke 6:29;

But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind:
Luke 14:13
The first one feast was made for Jesus, the second, Jesus counsels on feast. What is a feast what are they made for. Mind you, personal feast, whatever they are made for not mentioned.
The wedding at Cana, where wine finished was not actually Commanded anywhere that feasting should follow wedding. Yet, Jesus was invited and attended. I was in a church where feasting after wedding ceremony was worldly. Fallacy or fact of Christianity?
Does the scriptures really condemn birthday and anniversaries, wedding, graduation, retirement Thanksgiving feast. Especially, birthday, I can't see any scriptural evidence or Commandment against it. I have never celebrated one, at times I forget the date self and my children, bank, Facebook friends would remind and send comments, some of which I don't read. Yet, I insist, no clear commandments on birthday but conjectures.

As wax melteth before fire, let the wicked perish before God. God wins.



Signed Godwin Obaseki.

AntiChristian:
What MURIC is doing CAN has done worse. Anyways I'm not a fan of MURIC as they are right sometimes and wrong other times like all humans.
The schools in question are public schools at the moment not christian/missionary schools. All this your yarn na offpoints.

Public schools built by Christians toils and hard earned money forcefully taken over by bastard OBJ as he did for OAU , Library Stadium etc whileims were busy doing nothing other than planning jihad.

What rights are Muslims claiming? What gain have those missions now? Another wave of school building by these churches are going nationwide. Another antichristians will be planning to take over them while they are not contributing any meaningful things other than killings and violence.

MaxInDHouse:
It's OK some will live according to God's standard while others by worldly thinking but by their FRUITS we will all see the result! Matthew 7:16-18

Fallacies from standards, no matter how you want to paint it, or justify your choice belief.

MaxInDHouse:
There's no need worrying oneself over the topic, can't you see that i just step aside like Babangida watching the drama?

Please go and convince Kumuyi first after all he declared Christmas a Pagan custom which most of you claim you're using to celebrate Jesus' birthday!

When JWs talk you should know that our own Christianity has nothing as in no business with your own Christianity, so if your own Christianity says nothing is wrong with birthday celebration please continue with it. We'll keep our faith while you'll keep yours, we won't pester you to abandon your birthday neither will you force your birthday down our throats.
Your God will remain your God while our own God will remain our God!

No problems. I just want us to sift real requirements from fallacies.

Fallacies everywhere. God's verdicts on sex is clear. God bless Baba Adeboye.

lecturer50:
I have been reading accounts of people who died due to accidents,illness, etc.

When they reached heaven, they were told to come back to the earth that it was not yet their time to die.

Most of them are allowed to have a tour of heaven before coming back to the earth.

After coming back to the earth and being revived, they discribed heaven saying there are Universities, schools, markets, industries, companies,houses(with bedrooms, toilets, parlours, kitchens, etc), villages, towns, cities, countries,and continents in heaven.

There are also businesses and business centers in towns and cities of heaven where people engage in buying and selling as we do here on earth.

According to them, the only difference between heaven and earth is that in heaven there is no sorrow, illness, sadness, poverty, decay,hatred,evil and all things that are bad as experienced on this earth.

Instead there is immeasurable love,joy, happiness and peace in heaven, according to them.

Also in heaven, all buildings/structures are so beautiful and fine to the extent that nothing can be more beautiful than them.
Even in your wildest imagination, you cannot imagine anything more beautiful.

What do you have to say on this?

I knew it. My father, being a lover of politics should by now be at least a Chairperson in a Local Government Area in one of the Northeastern Heaven's states



I was watched a documentary on afterlife about two days ago. I strongly believe by the outcomes of the discussants, that all knowledge about afterlives now are mere theories. Live a life worthy of reckoning is all that matters.

1. Hypocrisy or dogma. Apart from Pharaoh and Herod, that no one else celebrated birthday is a fallacy. The Bible is not a history book for all events of all peoples. Bible history is a specialised history concerning events that of importance to the Covenant between God and Israel.. There is no evidence that someone, somewhere didn't celebrate birthdays in Jerusalem same day as Herod.

2. Jesus was said to have been named and buried according to Jewish tradition.

And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.
Luke 2: 21

Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury. John 19: 40

The hypocrisy is the example of Pharaoh and Herod are rejected, the kind of eight day naming and burial of Jesus is not followed by Jws.

3. The early church fathers established Hermits and many of them refused to marry like Paul. If the examples of early Christians are to be followed, convince the house how you are doing that.

As it is now, even then, celebration of birthdays is a personal choice. It doesn't affect God in anyway. This is pure hypocrisy.
I will not be surprised, as in earlier conversations, to read things like, we are not to follow human example. Now these are Jesus' examples. Are you willingly rejecting his examples

4. Maximus'side and Janosky take note

The logic of CAN and hijab in Kwara secondary schools. Christian students could be targets. Leah Sharibu and others still make my heart to bleed.

Antichristians at work.

Yes, Mohammed was said to split the Moon into two and water came out of his palm for an army to drink during a battle.

Thereafter, miracle of killings and terrorism.

Anything that makes you to wonder is called wonderful. I always wonder why and what Muslims gain in killing themselves and others.

Why do people say, 'urhobo wayo?'

Machine

Amen, last sentence, Amen

Power intoxicates, absolute power corrupts without restrictions

Empty threat as usual.

Mount is mounting pressure. Blue is the colour.Up Chelsea

stanley000:
Would have buy this but efcc will Bleep me front and back lol.

I would ask EFCC boss to be
given a lift. He will be grateful.

Nnamdi Kanu's DNA? You will be surprised he is from Chad.

Johnnyessence:
Now they can't contain the thugs that they breed in osun state again. oti di woro si woro. IJA sese bere niii. Osun State is no more peaceful again.

Kanakana ti na omo ega.......

APC has removed omoluabi from the State of Osun, walahi.

musicology:
I am a public servant with a regular salary however I am addicted to betting and it is affecting my finances and most especially, my family.
Please nairalanders , how do I get out? It is killing me

Use your salary to secure a loan to be paid over five years, use the money to bet this weekend. You will hit it big. Then stop betting but use the your win to start your own betting business. Thank me later. Best of luck.

MaxInDHouse:
Now listen to yourself!
You asked me a question anticipating a response eagerly and i said let's consider what the Bible has to say about this.
Then your next utterance is "Sir, you are living in delusion"
Well if you don't believe (trust) in God's word (Bible) i do. Listen to what Apostle Paul have to say about the Bible "All scriptures (Bible as a whole) is INSPIRED OF GOD so it's benefitial for teaching, reproving, SETTING MATTERS STRAIGHT and disciplining in righteousness" 2Timothy 3:16
So if you don't want to reason along using God's word please what exactly do you want?

What is the definition of truth? You no go ?

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm do you now see where the problem really lies?
I said "I am ready to be your friend, just know that we both need to set boundaries so i won't have to hurt your feelings and you too won't have to hurt mine" that's all.
But it's like you won't just allow for PEACE to reign between you and i.
Are you truly prepared for this journey to uncover the real meaning of TRUTH?
If you're ready then let's go LOGICAL while reasoning with our Bibles at hand then you'll find out even without me having to define TRUTH for you!
First of all what exactly is the purpose or aim of the author of the Bible before He gave us this wonderful book?
If we get to the root of that i believe we can find out what His son meant when he said "I am the way and the TRUTH and the life, no one comes to the father without passing through me" John 14:6

So my friend tell me what is the main reason why the Bible's author prepared this wonderful book?

Sir, you are living in delusion.


Simple question: what is your definition of truth?
Simple. The answer should be my understanding of truth is ........

MaxInDHouse:
My own Organization have the absolute TRUTH!

So if you want to be my friend whatever you tell me about the tenets of your faith i will never cross such boundary, and whatever i tell you about my faith please just leave it the way i present it because it will never change no matter our friendship.

But apart from that you are always welcome to be my friend if you will not argue nor disrespect my religious stand!

What is your definition of truth?

MaxInDHouse:
Only JW Organization measure up to what i'm saying!

It is a lie, big time. Only what you are exposed to in your location is what you know. In the other thread, £12, 000 was fined you were defending what you don't know. Just type related topics on Google, you will be surprised.


It is all delusion. I met the elders of your organisation about some issues in my brother's family. A friend who chose to study the scriptures together with me made a comment similar to what you are saying now. I asked him never to come to my place again. We resolved the issue,, we are still friends.Details, not for a forum like this. But, I am disappointed at the position of those elders. Sir decay is everywhere.

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's word nobody can worship Him independently of the association of other faithful adherents of God's word {Hebrews 10:24-25} so if you're not associating with any group of persons there is no way you can possibly worship God acceptably! Matthew 18:20

So it's justified if you disassociate yourself from the midst of sinners, scoffers and evildoers {Psalms 1:1} but then you must find the congregation of the true God {Zephaniah 2:2-3} where righteousness dwells {Psalms 133:1} otherwise what your isolation is saying in essence is "God doesn't exist" for there can't be a God without worshipers and worshipers must offer sacred service to God as one big body not each person doing so in isolation! Ephesians 4:12

This time I agree with you totally, the idea of a church or no rknown ots is what I don't want to hear. No human organisation is absolutely perfect. None.


About RCCG, the observation of the writer could be true in the absolute. But, I know there is Redeemed Pad, if you own one, the few chosen recorded messages in Yoruba is available. Then, the founder was not a man of letters. I don't think he wrote any books except the writer can provide some evidence. I have read about Oshoffa, Ayo Babalola, Moses Orimolade, Sadela, Baba Abiye... None of them in their generation lay emphasis on books but those written about them.

Decadence in the last days is practically not possible, any church except those covering their misdeeds. Justifying that, no, never. The prophetic programme of last days seem not to promise that. If the writer has left the church, RCCG and all, he will still find rots elsewhere.

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's word nobody can worship Him independently of the association of other faithful adherents of God's word {Hebrews 10:24-25} so if you're not associating with any group of persons there is no way you can possibly worship God acceptably! Matthew 18:20

So it's justified if you disassociate yourself from the midst of sinners, scoffers and evildoers {Psalms 1:1} but then you must find the congregation of the true God {Zephaniah 2:2-3} where righteousness dwells {Psalms 133:1} otherwise what your isolation is saying in essence is "God doesn't exist" for there can't be a God without worshipers and worshipers must offer sacred service to God as one big body not each person doing so in isolation! Ephesians 4:12

This time I agree with you totally, the idea of a church or no rknown ots is what I don't want to hear. No human organisation is absolutely perfect. None.


About RCCG, the observation of the writer could be true in the absolute. But, I know there is Redeemed Pad, if you own one, the few chosen recorded messages in Yoruba is available. Then, the founder was not a man of letters. I don't think he wrote any books except the writer can provide some evidence. I have read about Oshoffa, AyoBabalola