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truthmans2012:
God bless you bro.

Thanks

luvmijeje:
1. But did he meet him when he was alive?
2. Let me have a scriptural reference
3. So you don't have a ministry? Emphasis on ministry. Not church.
4. If you are on different assignment then why did you say he was unlike you in your 3rd point?
5. In what way did God reach you through him? Remember you have read other books written by those who said they are inspired by God such as David, Solomon, Moses. God gave David wisdom to marry many wives while he gave Paul wisdom to marry no wife. My question again, if your journey in life are not the same why apply the wisdom God gave to Paul to your life?

1. Paul wasn't living in Israel during the three and half years ministry of Jesus. Read Act of Apostles. He was taking letters from the Leaders in Jerusalem to arrest people that followed Jesus teachings and ways. He said he was from Tarsus, modern day Turkey. They may have. never have met in person. However, His choice as an Apostle was absolutely Jesus'

2. When Jesus talked to him in an encounter among many travellers, Jesus had to introduce himself to Paul.
He , Jesus, even sent him to Anna's to tell him more about his assignment.

3. Well I do have, but not as Paul whose ministry was to introduce the true God to a people with no knowledge of Him. And, the saving grace in Jesus. As a Christian, all I do is according to what is written, not to stand in isolation or have a special revelation of God like Mohammad.

4. He was a pioneer of s new other, I am not.

5. In spite of calling to specific ministry, he has a choice as I. He chose not to marry not by commandment. Jeremiah also didn't marry by choice. Jesus chose Peter a married man. Paul decided not to take anything from members not because it was the rule but choice.
If not because of the spread of Christianity, all the books of Moses, David etc would not be known. They were circulating among Israelites alone. Paul analyses of them gives the understanding that what was once thought to be for Israel alone has global application, some of them.

AMBURSAA:
STORY !! STORY !!!

Testimony, testimony.

Go to YouTube, you will find it there. A lot more of Jesus' appearances. There is one I know off one Like Ali. She told it, how Jesus appeared to her in Mecca. You may not believe, that changed her totally. She is a Christian of over 40 years after the encounter. She runs an orphanage in Ibadan till date.
A friend of mine had similar experiences. He is a missionary now.
Story, yes sweet salvation story.

Pay it on your income in spite of the debt. Do mind MaximumSide. Then pray, soon God knows how to make a way out of the debt.
There are people that tell about God they don't know; there people that tell about God they experience. To such no confusion.

There is a difference between a teacher and an instructor. The teacher can teach theory. Like those motivational speakers. An instructor, like a pilot or a soldier trains by demonstration.

Your financial faithfulness is needed in time of trial.

livingchrist:
Paul's message is the Lord's message, just as Jesus was opposed on earth about his teachings so his apostles teachings are opposed.
Jesus said a servant can not be greater than his master, if they rejected Jesus teachings so would they also reject his disciples teachings, paul who is unarguably one of the greatest apostles of Jesus suffered most for the gospel, some tried to twist his teachings, others denied it outright.

But why was paul's teachings so hated and rejected? It is because paul presented the gospel in its raw form, [b]because the gospel does not allow human pride or achievements neither does it involve applauding man's ability but exposes man's evilness as well as declaring God's goodness.

2 Timothy 2:8-10 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.
Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

It is God's goodness that Jesus should die for these evil humans so that if they believe in Jesus they should be saved.

Because humans have this false idea of their goodness, they hate to hear the fact that their, righteousness, and goodness is thrash in redeeming themselves.
Humans what to hear what they can do to improve themselves or make themselves better, the truth is heart breaking to them, the truth presents clearly that there is nothing humans can do about their condition, that their only hope lies with God.
Many philosophy of self improvements, self righteousness, discipline, ethics and others has surfaced but they are all empty with regards to mans condition, it does not address man's need only Jesus the son of God can address that need.

Jesus addressed this need through his death and resurrection but only those who put their faith in Christ will have this need covered.
This is paul's gospel and the reason he was hated and his messages rejected.

Paul's message is clear, faith alone on Christ alone lies the solution of the fallen man.

Paul's gospel is Jesus gospel, those who reject this gospel has rejected Christ and the anger of God is upon them.

I totally agree with you. If you understand Old Testament, especially the writings of Moses.you will definitely understand Paul's

luvmijeje:
In relation to the second point you raised, let me highlight part of the scripture you quoted.... 2nd Peter 3:15

Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him

Emphasis on Wisdom God gave to him. This is my question to you. Was Paul's wisdom higher than the wisdom God gave to you? Please have this at the back of your mind before giving me an answer.

1. Paul never got to meet Christ neither do you
2. Paul was not a jew neither are you
3. Paul was a man, so are you
4. Paul journey through life is not the same as yours
5. So why must you apply the same wisdom God gave to him to your journey in life?

1. Paul met Jesus, who commissioned him, and gave him the template to follow. Acts 9 :3 - 6; 15 - 17
2. Paul was a Jew, from the tribe of Benjamin, he was a student of Gamaliel, an expert of Hebrew's Law, he was living in Damascus, he obtained Roman citizenship.
3. He was a man like me, and unlike me because God gave him an assignment to me - a gentile. Not the other way round.
4. Our journey through life are not and cannot be the same because we are on different assignments.
5. Since God reached me through him, I must live by the wisdom communicated via him by God. Wisdom of God not of Paul.
It is like you don't have a Bible or you don't read it.

Is he from drug hub of Africa?

MaxInDHouse:
Wait until i SEE the lies myself nah!

Hypocrisy, when are you traveling to Belgium? Insincerity, anything written against any church or pastor is true. When written against your organisation, is a lie. Dishonesty.

MaxInDHouse:
Go and destroy the undeniable LOVE among them, bitter rumour peddlers will cry and cry and cry until they expire!

Your commitment to your organisation is commendable. Even when defending obvious lies. Heart seared with hot iron of indoctrination. Jehovah hates lies, organisation does not. You can't sit on the fence.

Janosky:
Is 1 Corinthians 5:2,11-13 ,2John 1:9-11, 2 Thess 3:6 is missing from your Bible ?


Cherry picker, continue DECEIVING yourself

Leaving your organisation is a crime punishable by 'hated love" a special type JWs love!

Janosky! Your delusion is laughably abysmal. You too can leave tomorrow, hundreds have. The.same treatment awaits you.

MaxInDHouse:
Defend a global family of peace loving worshipers before who? Nobody is questioning me over my faith, nothing serious is at stake and am i supposed to start chatting with a spoilt brat whose entire family are part of the same Organization shey?
I thought you're of age nah!

The thread being treated here shows the love practised among JWs.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted, Jehovah's Witnesses have passed that stage Sir!

When Jesus was commissioning this wonderful group he needed to prove so many things because his audience can't believe it's going to be possible, so he performed many miracles to instill in the minds of his listeners that what he was teaching is from the divine.
They asked him "you said Satan will work out imitations making it difficult for people to IDENTIFY this group during the end time, how will genuinely interested persons RECOGNIZE those practicing what you taught when that time comes?"
Jesus' answer always ring a bell in the minds of all those who are disposed for everlasting life "by their FRUITS you will know them, people don't gather grapes from thorns nor do they gather figs from thistles do they? Likewise every good tree will produce fine fruit and every bad tree routine fruit" Matthew 7:16-18
So my friend Churches of Christendom around you are proving themselves one way or another to fetch followers, each will stick to their own form of tactics to woo people.
I'm 100% sure that you've been through so many discussion with my brother who happens to be your blood relation but you're still not convinced so there is nothing anyone can say or do to convince you! Luke 16:31
If you're not convinced about JWs i beleive you'll be convinced about some other groups, please do well to join them in worship and if you've lost interest in fellowshipping it's also a welcome development do well to worship alone.
It's a free world!

The teachings are divinely Satanic

Not only political balance but security and economic stability. which of these nonentities can you compare with Awo, Obj, or GEJ?

justice delay is justice denied. They stayed too long on trial marriage kua?

Where is Maximumside to defend their only 'love' organisation? This people are living in abyssmal delusion having their minds in remote control by GB.

[quote author=Greystone post=99914774][/quote]Meaning Nigeria = hell?

MaxInDHouse:
Millions (including your own blood brother) has siezed their opportunity to enter {Luke 13:24} so it's not compulsory that you take note! Matthew 24:38-39

It doesn't matter whoever enters into delusion. Not all original Israelites do enter God's agenda. Till today, they still believe they are the only people doing the right thing. Sorry, you don't know anything outside GB's doctrines. I am still praying for my brother to come out of mental bondage.
It is pitiable you left Islamic confusion to enter into another delusion. Most of you I have encountered are just brainwashed, I'll ,- indoctrinated not actually knowledgeable.

I challenge you to prove from history the verity of 607bce and the the scriptural evidence that the nonsense you based your seventy weeks upon. The nonsense didn't even originally start with C.T. Russell. Sorry, you don't read outside GB'S writings.

Send it to my WhatsApp sharperly

MaxInDHouse:
I can understand, the blind always wish everyone else blind too!

Which of you, blind claiming to lead the seeing , saw Jesus in 1914? Give one evidence that supports your claim. Not only you eyes are blinded, your mind also is painted with delusion.
JWs is a big joke.

MaxInDHouse:
When prophesies don't spring from private interpretation, that's when the fulfilment could be substantiated! Deuteronomy 18:21-22

You yourself said you've been practicing and believing different things in the past that's not yielding anything positive in the society apart from what you just carry in your head. But this time around you're seeing people believing in something that's working out perfectly throughout the globe but since yours never worked out you want everyone to feel it's all about delusion.

Sorry if yours is a delusion and you can't hold unto it that's understandable but you can't force others whose faith is working as they believe to throw away their faith simply because yours failed you!

Your delusion is abysmal.

luvmijeje:
I want to thank these two men for pushing me to get to this moment. Jesusjnr for being the first to challenge the teaching of Paul(That I've seen). And muttleylaff for challenging me for daring to question Paul. Believe it or not when I first told muttleylaff that the teaching of Paul differs from the teaching of Christ, I had no clue how. But in subsequent days I started receiving revelations. So it's time to share my revelations. For those who don't know what revelation is....... Revelation is seeing things in a new light. So let's proceed.

1st Corinthians 12 : 28(Paul's teaching)


The introduction of spiritual hierarchy was never part of Christ's teachings rather he was against it.

In Matthew 12 : 46 - 50(Christ's teaching)



No one came first, second nor third.

I just burst into this thread. I once had kobojunkie's views interesting on Paul's writings. However, I beg to differ. Jesus and Paul do not differ in their teachings at all.

1. Jesus Himself after ascension looked for Paul who had under had understanding in the Law of Moses to pass across His mind. Mind you, during Jesus earthly ministry, Paul was in Syria. He didn't know Jesus. This is made clear in his encounter on the way to Damascus.

2. Paul taught mostly what was revealed to him, which the earlier Apostles could comprehend being unlettered. Peter attested to this 2 Peter 3:15-16

3. The whole of New Testament arrangements and worship patterns and ministerial offices are different from those of Old Testament in context and content.
This was made known to Paul to relate to the church. The early apostles didn't even know what to believe. They saw manifestation of the Holy Spirit. They had to hold the first synod to agree on what to start with different from the Mosaic arrangements.

4. The Ministerial offices rather than hierarchy is exclusive given by the giftings of the Spirit rather than what we have today.
5. On the whole, there are two syllabuses for the same course presented to two different dispensations. In the New World, the foundation would be laid with the names of the Apostles or their teachings

19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Ephesians 2: 19 - 20


AND



The gate marked with the names of the children of Israel as I think, the whole of the world are only twelve races to God
( When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. Deuteronomy 32: 8 )

12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: 13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. 14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. 15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
Revelation 12 12 - 16

6. I don't think Paul did anything differently, although, Paul gave some opinions in some cases and he remarked that especially on marital issues and women in ministry. And in some cases, his suggestion was for the time being.
26 I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress, I say, that it is good for a man so to be. ICor. 7: 26.

north is becoming a hell. Those bandits are lazy youths bred by the short - sighted leaders. They are reaping the fruit of their foolishness. they kept them poor and out of school so that few of them will always enjoy, now they are national disasters

We4all:
UI first class graduates that can't communicate well in English. Could it be that English isn't their mode of communication or they write their exams in Yoruba language?

It is a lie. I am a proud holder of a Higher Degree of Engineering of the most respected school. UI post UTME is the most rigorous in the country. The past Law School result and world universities ranking are there.

Replace all coventional schools to islamic school na. Banditry and terrorism will stop.

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted!
When he is doing the separation work how would you know?
Or do you think he will come and announce to you?
People are leaving different religious settings from various geographical locations on this planet and forming one big and happy global family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} and you're here saying Jesus the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} will do the separation by himself.
So you think it's just the 8 men in America that's doing all these by their own initiative?
Now i know the full meaning and impact of unbelieving Spirit!

You are a smart guy. You can dodge real issues. Well done. 2 Pet 1: 20

MaxInDHouse:
Here you are!
You are hungry, nobody brought you something to eat but you see a full house of people eating, dinning and winning with LOVE, JOY and PEACE in the air. And all you have to say is
"the food is not nourishing, in fact it's poison"

Of all the religious groups on this planet the one and only group having all the attributes God's word foretold regarding true servants of God during the end time is JWs. You don't even have any to present yet you're looking for excuses to condemn the only living proof of the blueprint of the Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6 compare to Micah 4:1-3
What is the difference between you and the first century Jewish religious leaders that condemned Jesus and his disciples?
Well whether you like it or not millions are solidly behind the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses saying "We will go with you people because we have heard that God is with you people" Zachariah 8:23
You can say the same to your Daddy GOs or better still go and find Jews to whom you can say the same thing, just be rest assured that this prophecy is undergoing fulfilment presently and there is nothing absolutely NOTHING you or your father the Devil can do to stop it!

It is pitiable that you left the confusion of Islam to enter another of JWs. You go and research yourself. I told you before: you could be a captive of what you are defending.


About three years ago, Jess trying to study end - time events. I took the Seven Days Adventists, Islam, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, Bishop Malachy of Catholic, JWs Pay Attention to Prophecy of Daniel and that of Isaiah, of some others at the background from earlier knowledge from Lindsays' ( I know you don't read outside your self acclaimed organisation) and world history texts and internet. I discovered some discrepancies in JWs chronological arrangements and biased interpretation.
I called a fellow friend, who is a full time JWs friend, we study the Bible together, Saturdays. I tried to point to him. He reacted the same way you are doing now (Not with insult like yours anyways).
In my search, I stumbled upon a treatise written by a JWs to your GB. That led to his disfellowshipment. That doesn't change the truth.
I still wish you well in your delusion. You are always posting with pride about your organisation. Fine, I once told you in a thread that whatever comes to you first is the best. I was like that. I still question some doctrines of where I am, but still feel safe. You too, try and do same. I am not claiming we are the most special group.So many Christians leaders have taught errors before. I still research.
Stop being living in delusion. I now most of you fear being disfellowshiped. Disfellowship? In Christs Church?
He said he would do the separation Himself. No special body is authorised to do that. It is all delusion, Sir!

MaxInDHouse:
The word RAPTURE doesn't appear in any part of the Bible, but if you mean the taking away of the Born again Christians who are going to rule with Jesus in heaven then the answer to your question is YES!
The angel who spoke to Jesus' disciples when he left the earth said something that most people don't notice, he said "This Jesus that's taken away from you will return in the same manner" Act 1:11
Jesus left the earth unannounced, after his death none believers never saw him again only his faithful disciples continue seeing him until his final departure! John 14:19
What confused most Bible readers is where God's word says "Look he is coming with the clouds and every eye will see him and those who pierced him: and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves beat themselves in grief because of him. YES Amen! Revelations 1:7

If you're not careful and intelligent you'll miss the colored part that says "those who pierced him" of course those who pierced Jesus are dead so they can't possibly see him so what does this mean?

Well it simply means all what Jesus prophesied that will take place when he returns to take his chosen ones home will be felt by all the inhabitants of the earth (including the Jews who don't believe Jesus till today) Yes everyone will feel the presence of Jesus as everything he said is happening one after the other!

Jesus has returned since 1914 and ever since then the earth has been experiencing all what he said @ Matthew 24, most of his chosen ones have been taken away from the earth, the great tribulation is about to begin but first the rest of his chosen ones who are still alive will complete their earthly mission! Matthew 24:22

After the last one of them dies and is transformed immediately, the great tribulation will begin. This is surely not palatable but it's the truth!

Jesus came secretly, only JWs saw Him.


1914 theory is baseless. The 607 BCE or so and Nebuchadnezzar's tree doesn't make any historical or scriptural sense. Professor Furuli, your authority on Assyriology is not a scholar at all.

Nukilia:
Where is the free tuition

Where will the money to pay workers, infrastructural development, equipment come from?

My own is not to participate in the eternal destruction whatever it means. The other side of life is death and that has two sides first and second. Life is three: normal, abundant, and eternal. I subscribe for all. Death: first, maybe, second, no.The rest to theologians,. I care less.

Gbam!!!!!!