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Can somebody please share that picture which shows Nigerian soldiers returning from Cameroon. 1. No vehicles 2. Heavy infantry weapons AGLs,MGLs,mortars,heavy machine guns etc. 3. They were pulling a "tactical manoeuvre" on foot without coordination with the force commander,headquarters nor did they have maps?. Conclusion: These boys ran for their lives. I don't blame them.

patches689: Do you wish to argue finance with a CFA?

You are a simple bean counter, my boy.

Lmaoooooooo . DUDE!!!!!!

agaugust: They carried 105mm artillery guns on foot? Olodo !

Maybe SANDF infantry have no legs or too lazy to walk when close to target, or spread out to prevent 'one shot k.ill 20 ambush risk'. You don't know war tactics. Olodo !

Don't mix infantry with artillery or armour units. Your infantry is classed as "Foot-lized infantry" . Your soldiers carry 1 AK-47 and if lucky plus 150 bullets and a RPG. SANDF soldiers carry more than 80KG!!!!!

agaugust: They carried 105mm artillery guns on foot? Olodo !

Maybe SANDF infantry have no legs or too lazy to walk when close to target, or spread out to prevent 'one shot k.ill 20 ambush risk'. You don't know war tactics. Olodo !

"Spread to avoid ambush kill"? Lmaooo. Artillery towed by gun trucks,like you always say "even togo can do that. Carrying a 1960 relics

Henry120: Pathetic SANDF. You think it's by carrying out photo-shoots.

More insul..ts and no facts. Go cry on beegeagle's shoulders not here Henry.

agaugust: Even Togo republic can do that ! You Dumbo
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NOPE!!!!!

Henry120: It doesn't change the fact you are the murder capital of the world.


Yes I know what she talking about. She simply saying no military in africa can be as pathetic as the SANDF. She is saying your HIV force has been in decline and still is.

She is saying your defence force is a hopeless retirement home.

She is saying, you have no money to run your military. Dummy.


I've answered all your question, and have showed and continue to show your military is pathetic.



Lol, what is this comedy central, or "night" of a thousand laughs"?

"they(SAAF) get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."

Nigeria Operates the most advanced surveillance assets in Africa.

Camera systems
Satellite systems
Elint surveillance systems
Augusta S&R helicopters
Bell S&R helicopters.

Sub-saharan African countries like your Nigeria,suffer from imbalance. 1. Please stop making claims and show or tell us the names of those "surveillance assets"!!!! A single SANDF recce with the LH-40C binoculors can do what all those assets you mentioned there can do.

In those pictures all your soldiers were carrying 1 AK-47 each or carrying a RPG. Some carried GPMG. All from soldiers heading for combat. No AGLs,MGLs,Mortars,DM rifles,first aid kit(buddy aid) and more!!!

Henry120: LMAO!!!!

You want to discuss technology you do not have. Pathetic bro. This is a new low coming from you. After conniving with terrorists, you want to go into technology that are non-existent in your HIV defence force.


You should start proving Nigerian soldiers ran away? They combated, and continue to combat the enemy across the borders and into the deserts.

Your security services receive training from the americans and british, they also get hand out equipments from the west. No wonder you guys are massive western a$slickers.


You have no Data links. For how long you're going to continue with this lie?

Nigeria isn't in the "TDL club",South Africa in the 1998 review got Link-ZA,frigates,subs,helicopters,jets and more. Watch what happens in this 2014 one. 1. Your officers can't read maps and ended up in Cameroon where they took your weapons. 2. You're not that knowledgeable about C2 systems so I won't bother,to try discus such things with you. 3. The SANDF battalions aren't trained by any foreign armed forces. 4. You receive anything from cutters,trucks,APCs and more.

Henry120: Before I forget, south-africa is the murder capital of the world.

http://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2014/jun/24/10-world-cities-highest-murder-rates-homicides-in-pictures



Tell me another story.

"they(SAAF) get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."

"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition," Maynier said. This was evidenced by more than half the defence budget (R20.4 billion) going to personnel costs."


Mapisa-Nqakula stated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.




Interest in Nigeria by international organisations and multinationals has continued to grow despite rising insurgency in the country, U.S-based economic advisory firm, Frontiers Strategy Group, said in a report titled “Frontier Market Sentiment Index”.

The report, issued by the Wall Street Journal, said that out of 11 African countries in a survey conducted by the firm, Nigeria ranked first as the most preferred economy for investment by the multinationals, which included European and American firms.

Nigeria emerged the number one frontier-market economy in Africa in terms of attracting the most attention from European and American multinationals.





http://businessdayonline.com/2014/06/nigeria-is-top-investment-destination-in-africa

1. No one in SA gives a rat's ar..se about what Lauren and her friends write. 2. Do you know what the minister was talking about? Do you know what "balance" she's talking about? LOL 3. You're now dancing all over the place Mike..ZA making the floor hot for you? You can't answer questions. 4. Our air force and special operation forces medics always perform well,from rescuing hurricane victims,combat search and rescue all over SADC,mounting rescues,sea rescue(Nigerian air force is still to develop that.

Henry120: I'm going to brutalise you today online mike.

"Unfortunately, the SANDF is already sitting with an array of expensive hardware that it cannot deploy, either because it lacks the skilled crews –" because it can’t afford the running costs."


"South Africa has the oldest infantry troops in the world"

"the 2012 Defence Review, says the SANDF is “critically deficient in the skill, motivation, and ethos that is required to operate"


The South African National Defence Force (SANDF), which should be saving lives, is becoming an "armed welfare service which is saving jobs,"


"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition,"
This was evidenced by more than half the defence budget (R20.4 billion) going to personnel costs.


tated unambiguously that the SANDF was in a state of decline characterised by force imbalance between capabilities, ageing technology, and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems.



This, together with new equipment, training from the Americans and British, innovative technology and a careful collection of evidence is beginning to show results. But it is an uphill battle.


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http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/05/fighting-cape-town-s-notorious-gangs


You also receive trainings and equipment from the british and americans.




Pathetic HIV ridden defence force.

1. NCOs are old,your army needs to work in that area. Your soldiers run from combat when cause the aren't experienced NCOs to led them,meaning senior officers like Lieutenant Colonel Agu often have to led from the front. 2. Thanks again for spreading the defence review PR work. Foo..l 3. HIV is nothing but virus,it isn't eBola. 4. NO battalion in South Africa has in recent years received training from any foreign country,all we do is hold exercises with them. The SANDF avoids contacts through exercises with the USA or Uk 5. Don't even bring up technology. Your officers can't even read a map. Where's the "cobra C2" systems? NO MIL-STD data links. One day your battalion will attack Abuja thinking it was Gwoza

Henry120: True every military flies VVIP, but your Airforce(SAAF) is only funded for VIP, and VVIP trips alone, and get virtually nothing for training, S&R get nothing. Your Defence review shows your military has and would always be hopeless.


He posted photos of nigerian troops backed by Armour and artillery pieces. You don't fight from inside your APC's.


AGL's, MGL's, IFV's, AFV's are not a problem for nigeria. Troops field them in combat, not for some petty little photo-shoot.

1. SAAF 21 squadron is a VIP squadron,but doesn't operate helicopters. So when president and other VIPs get to the airport other helicopter squadron take it from there. FOO...L 2. More than 10 soldiers were seen in those pictures matching beside a single Cobra,meaning some of them are "foot-lized infantry" LOL 3. Old pieces of artillery which South Africa or Israel captured,tested and threw them into museums or use for training. 4. Your army has no IFVs. 5. Show us those AGLs,MGLs but never cause SA stuff will be superior !!!!!!!!

Henry120: " However, it’s a fact that while the SAAF’s helicopter squadrons receive a generous allocation for VIP flights – last year the Durban-based 15 Squadron got 300 hours flying time to ferry the Zuma entourage to and from Nkandla – they get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."

This is your SANDF.

1. What's the standard APC of the Nigerian army? 2. How much is spent on training a single Nigeria soldiers. 3. You'll eat humble pie Henry. 2. APCs protected soldiers from the deadliest battlefield weapons,such as mortars,shells,small arms fire,IEDs,land mines etc

Henry120: " However, it’s a fact that while the SAAF’s helicopter squadrons receive a generous allocation for VIP flights – last year the Durban-based 15 Squadron got 300 hours flying time to ferry the Zuma entourage to and from Nkandla – they get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."

This is your SANDF.

15 squadron is based in Port Elizabeth and Durban. It is the job of the military to fly VIPs . South African helicopter squadrons are the best in combat search and rescue. Nigeria still lacks that capability.

Henry120: Troops get all the equipment they need. From AK's to RPG's, MGL's, AGL's, IFV's, AFV's and more.

It is a properly equipped military.

http://www.beegeagle./2014/08/16/nigerian-forces-well-trained-and-equipped-to-counter-the-boko-haram-threat-olukolade/


Your irresponsible troops in south-africa constantly carry out strikes.

Your military is a low-moraled, HIV ridden, pathetic retirement home.


"the 2012 Defence Review, says the SANDF is “critically deficient in the skill, motivation, and ethos that is required to operate"





"South Africa has the oldest infantry troops in the world"



"The air force, for example, has been reduced to being a flying limousine service for African National Congress politicians"


" However, it’s a fact that while the SAAF’s helicopter squadrons receive a generous allocation for VIP flights – last year the Durban-based 15 Squadron got 300 hours flying time to ferry the Zuma entourage to and from Nkandla – they get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."




Is the SANDF a military?

1. Show us these AGLs,IFVS and more. Augubugubu posted pictures of your men matching to Damboa on foot. 2. Protest=/=Strike 3. Thanks for spreading the 2014 defence review PR work. 4. Every military flies VIP and VVIPs.

Henry120: They do not lack APC's, neither would APC's save troops from 14.5mm.

We spend more on trainings than any other country on this continent.

There is no proof of nigerian military personnel RUNNING away from combat.

1. What's the standard APC of the Nigerian army then? 2. How much does Nigeria spend training a single soldier? 3. They ran to Cameroon just last week,Lieutenant Colonel Agu had to dress as a women to save his ar..se. 4. APCs save soldiers from land mines,IEDs,mortars,shells,small arms,the elements and offer great mobility.

agaugust: Egypt prove to be Africa's biggest weapons producer, fact ! This thread gets worse for South Africa every month...Butt Hurt

Most South African made weapons are copies, and stolen or purchased/imported designs, Hawk Jets and Badger IFV are European licensed

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South Africa produces more weapons than all African countries. Soon SA will be supplying Algeria with Umkhonto missiles and Malaysia with Ingwe missiles. While you're dreaming of receiving a donation,in a form of a second hand frigate from China.

Henry120: When you make comments like these, I begin to wonder Whether you have a functional brain.

So why then did the BBC move the "goal-post" on 3 different occasions on this story?

"The BBC chose to be partisan and rabidly anti-government and they boxed themselves into a corner.

http://www.dailyindependentnig.com/2014/06/council-boss-debunks-bbc-report-bharam-attack/

MORE LIES by BBC

The BBC claimed the wife of the camerounian vice-prime-minister has been rescued by camerounian BIR (rapid intervention battalion).

http://www.cameroonweb.com/CameroonHomePage/NewsArchive/artikel.php?ID=307770

The wife of the vice-premier is still in boko-haram custody.



http://www.beegeagle./2014/08/16/nigerian-forces-well-trained-and-equipped-to-counter-the-boko-haram-threat-olukolade/

The BBC and many western news sources have jettisoned moral journalistic ethics, and have instead continued to propergate falsehood.


Nigerian soldiers receive by far better pay,
By far Better health care benefits
By far Better retirement benefits
Better trained and better armed
Have families and friends in nigeria,
And are nigerians.

1. Health benefits? LOL 2. Retirements benefits? LOL another joke. 3. How much is spent on training a Nigerian soldier? 4. Carrying a single AK-47 and sometimes a RPG,is better armed too you? What a shame. 5. How much is a deployed Nigerian soldier payed? R1000?

Henry120: Other than spreading senseless terrorism propaganda and conniving with terrorists, you have nothing to show Nigerian soldiers aren't the best on the continent.


There are multiple real life photos on this site, which back up may fact. There are no insults.

1. Equipment(Your soldiers lack APCs,webbing etc) 2. You spent less on training soldiers,some of your units are even trained by foreign armies. 3. They run way from combat. Plus more

agaugust: [size=14pt]Biggest Weapons Manufacturer In Africa Is Egypt !

Egyptian home defense industry produces thousands of tanks, ballistic and guided missiles, amroured vehicles, etc

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Nope, biggest weapons producer in Africa is Egypt, I proved it today. This forum had been misled for too long.

South Africa is a lousy noise maker and fake leader in anything. Some silent countries in Africa are superior to the noisy SA.

Truth has come out today....

http://www.nti.org/facilities/412/

http://fas.org/irp/threat/missile/egypt.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/egypt/army-equipment-intro.htm

http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index/4311/egypts-other-revolution_modernizing-the-military-i

https://media.defenceindustrydaily.com/images/LAND_M1_Egyptian_in_Alexandria_2011_Revolution_guest_CCASA1_lg.jpg

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Egypt produces licenced weapons,for its "armed forces". South Africa produces more than that and way ahead.

If they were indeed making a "tactical manoeuvre",that means the Nigerian army has no "blue force tracking" capability. Since we are talking about a battalion size force. Or it means Nigerian combat officers,can't read maps. THOSE CHAPS RAN AWAY FROM COMBAT CAUSE OF HEAVY SUPERIOR TERRORISTS FIREPOWER.

agaugust: Your South African OPV that does not have enough fuel to reach Angola and save your SADC defense partner in time of need...

Fake blue water navy

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Yes,it has enough fuel to reach Taiwan. . Angola wasn't threatened by anyone,if a SADC member is threatened or attacked you'd see the best military units in Africa deployed for combat it was the case in the Great African war,Angolan civil war,Lesotho. The best region in Africa.

@Henry120 claims Nigerian soldiers are the best on the continent,in terms equipment,training and experience. But he can't go any further to back up his claims other than jokes and insul..ts.

ZeusAyo: again no evidence of webbing just regular body armour

Nigeria is still developing the special forces capability,it'll take time and operational experience to come up with suitable equipment and other stuff.

agaugust: Nope, your home made SADC pirates, your own region's pirates that your weak submarine navy has no OPV to pursue

South African navy has ZERo force projection beyond Cape Town

Nigerian navy now rules both ECOWAS and SADC waters with impunity

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Go post the picture of that donated cutter somewhere. South African OPVs can sink it easily.

Henry120: I could not care less what your intentions are. Fact is, You're actively abating terrorism, for a laugh. Well, your problem.

There is nothing to prove that those 2 men running are nigerian soldiers, even if they were, you'd be silly to expect them to fight outnumbered 200: 1 in the face of 14.5mm fire.

Nigerian soldiers are not poorly equipped. They are, and remain the best army in Africa.

The best runners!!!

agaugust: No, it is Egypt, thousands of guided missiles, tanks, APCs, Tucano aircraft, Alpha jets, etc manufactured in Egypt at home.




You are a human being of low mental value.

Egypt produces jet fighter engines that South Africa has NEVER done, and thousands of guided missiles and thousands of armoured vehicles.

South Africa believes in noise making, most wise countries keep quiet while they do far better than an over-bloated ANC kingdom.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/egypt/industry.htm
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South Africa designs and produces more weapons than all Africans countries.

agaugust: Domestic weapons manufacturing industry, Egypt leads Africa
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South Africa produces more weapons than all African countries.

agaugust: Nigeria has a bigger economy than South Africa. National purchasing power is not measured by per capita income but rather by net government cash flow on which Nigeria beats South Africa.

It's an Irony that South Africans post photos of their DENEL made drones here like album makers, while South Africa is busy importing American made drones to fight Rhino Poaching in Kruger Park . Silly nation
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1.A South Africa=4 Frigates. 1.B Nigeria=1 Frigate 2.A South Africa=3 submarines 2.B Nigeria=0 Submarines. 3.A South Africa=1000+ Infantry fighting vehicles 3.B Nigeria=less than 50 infantry fighting vehicles. 4.A South Africa= 26 fighter jets 4.B Nigeria=11 fighter jets. Why can't you buy more?

agaugust: Your village Tv does not show CNN ?

ISIS killed 5,500 people in Iraqi in 180 days.

Your google search engine knocked ?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/iraqi-civilian-death-toll-5500-2014-isis

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Guardian again? Just click this link m.youtube.com/results?gl=ZA&client=mv-google&hl=en&q=American+airstrikes&submit=Search

agaugust: Egypt has almost zero weapons sales, but their home defense industry has built more weapons than South Africa including missiles and armoured vehicles.

Your google search engine knocked?
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South Africa produces and designs more weapons than any other African country.

agaugust: [size=14pt]

LOL !!!

Nigerian navy rules even inside your SADC EEZ zones, we save Angola all the way from Lagos while South Africa makes excuses about distance within her own SADC defense block

Submarine navy with ZERO force projection, depending on Nigeria to save her Soweto Azz
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If sending out support vessel and submarine to Argentina isn't a sign projection. Then you must rewrite and define the phrase.