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agaugust: That photo is ordinary 120mm mortar, even Cameroon has is, so what? Even Togo can carry their mortar by plane and call it airborne artillery

Nigeria doesn't . No sub-saharan African country has airborne artillery. So that.

agaugust: World war I and II air combat is not useful today where missiles and electronics rule the air.

South Africa has ZERO experience of 4th Generation air combat with jets carrying seeker head missiles, your Mirage F-1 Vs MiG-23 combat of 1980s is an ancient warfare. Only Ethiopia and Eritrea have modern jet vs jet combat experience in all Africa, even Egypt doe not have such experience.

Stop boasting of what you do NOT have...Fraudster !

Seeker head missiles? LOLm. The MIGs and Mirages fired live missiles at each other. SA is the first nation to introduce HMDs,yet you wanna compare Nigeria with SA regarding experience of flying jets?

Henry120: You're like a blind mouse. You've seen nigerian military data-links in operations, but have refused to accept this fact, and have continued to dwell in ignorance.



Like we say in nigeria "na stubborn fly, dey follow deadi bodi enter grave".

No MIL-STD data links.

Is this the Nigerian Bofors FH-77B? Loool.

This is a claim by Beegeagles.

False or True.#trap

Airborne artillery. Deployed simultaneously with G5 and G6 guns.

South Africa will be the first sub-saharan nation to have capabilities similar to the French operation in Mali.

Also SA will be the first African nation to have capabilities similar to the Turkish flotilla that visited many African nations and tested missiles in SA months back.

Henry120: Not a hobo defenceweb site.

Beegeagles is a liar.

Defenceweb is a news organization.

patches689: 20km is longer than the range of your SAM's. Meaning we can kill your SAM facilities from safety. We also have long range artillery and rocket batteries.

So, its the definition of a stand-off munition.

slowpoke.

His forgetting that the Umkhonto missile can strike ground targets.

Thiza: @AUGUSTUS I REPEAT NOTHING THAT NIGERIA DOES THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE 30 YEARS AGO......YOU CLAIM NEW UNIFORM THAT U HAVE NOT SEEN YET....HERE IS THE POST OF THE NEW SANDF UNIFORM...ADVANCE IN TECHNOLOGICAL DESIGNED AND APPLICABLE TO ANY TERRAIN......SEE MUMU

CSIR is still in work experimenting new designs.

Unlike some whom just...............

agaugust: One Badger IFV ? Whom do you want to fight with that? Armed robbers on the streets ?




South Africa has NO air or land based stand off munitions like missiles and smart bombs.

All your missiles and smart bombs have maximum range 20 km and that is NOT stand-off or beyond visual range. Stop lying dude !

The vehicles are undergoing OT&E.

Are you saying SA or the SANDF? Cause Denel produces stand-off munitions even for your masters Pakistan. Loool

agaugust: Nigeria's NAF has 30 combat helicopters.


2 damaged Mi-24 being repaired, 1 Mi-35 crashed but immediate replacement ordered.



6 Mi-35M Hind E (2 delivered).......................Federal Ministry Of Defence 2014/This Day Newspapers
14 Mi-24V/35P...........................................SIPRI database
10 Mi-8/Mi-171s armed terminators................SIPRI database

SOURCE :

Transfers of major conventional weapons: sorted by supplier. Deals with deliveries or orders made for year range 2000 to 2013
Note: The ÔNo. delivered/producedÕ and the ÔYear(s) of deliveriesÕ columns refer to all deliveries since the beginning of the contract. Deals in which the recipient was involved in the production of the weapon system are listed separately. The ÔCommentsÕ column includes publicly reported information on the value of the deal. Information on the sources and methods used in the collection of the data, and explanations of the conventions, abbreviations and acronyms, can be found at URL <http://www.sipri.org/contents/armstrad/at_data.html>. The SIPRI Arms Transfers Database is continuously updated as new information becomes available.
Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database
Information generated: 03 August 2014


Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


Belarus
R: Nigeria

2 Mi-24P/Hind-F Combat helicopter 2009 2010 2 Second-hand

France
R: Nigeria

5 AS-532 Cougar/AS-332 Helicopter 2010 Second-hand but modernized before delivery; status uncertain


Italy
R: Nigeria

2 A-109K Light helicopter (2000) 2001 (2) Mainly for protection of off-shore oil fields
4 A-109K Light helicopter (2002) 2004 (4) A-109E Power version

12 AW139 Helicopter 2006 2006-2009 3

12 A-109K Light helicopter (2009) 2010-2012 (6) A-109LUH version; from South African production line


Russia
R: Nigeria

10 Mi-34S/Hermit Light helicopter 1999 2001-2002 (10) For training
6 Mi-24P/Hind-F Combat helicopter (2000) 2000 6 Probably second-hand but modernized before delivery
4 Mi-8MT/Mi-17/Hip-H Helicopter (2002) 2003 4 Mi-171Sh armed version
3 Mi-24P/Hind-F Combat helicopter 2012 Possibly second-hand but modernized or rebuilt before delivery; designation uncertain (could be Mi-17V-5 helicopter)
6 Mi-8MT/Mi-17/Hip-H Helicopter 2012 Mi-171Sh armed version

Ukraine
R: Nigeria

2 Mi-24P/Hind-F Combat helicopter (2007) 2008 2 Second-hand
1 Mi-24V/Hind-E Combat helicopter (2008) 2008 1 Second-hand



http://www.sipri.org/databases/armstransfers

That is about 60 helicopters in NAF on SIPRI alone for purchases from year 2000 to 2013 only. I did not add 6 units new Mi-35M Hind E, squadron of Bell Rangers, squadron of R66 Robinsons, and the 40 new helicopters from USA/Russia arriving this month.

Nigerian air force (Not counting Navy helicpoters one squadron, not counting any NAF reserves two squadrons) will have about 120 helicopters rocking the skies....Biggest force in Sub-Saharan Africa !

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SAAF has more than 150 helicopter when we include unoperational reserve squadrons.

agaugust: The SAAF Chief Of Staff retired in 2012, like I said 99% of combat experienced South African military men are either dead, retired, or run away oversees to avoid Zulu spear of revenge.

Don't fvck yourself dude, it won't produce a baby, South African air force and Nigeria both have NO experience of 4th generation jet fighter combat where EM. ECM, ECCM is the rule of the game. South African Gripen jets have zero combat experience, NEVER used in war. FACT !

SAAF Hawk jets have never killed a mosquito, NAF Alpha jets have been flying recce and ground attack from 20 years ago till today...Liberia, Sierra Leone, Mali, North East Nigeria.

Who has a better experienced air force today 2014, not on past glory ? Nigeria !

EM,ECM,ECCM? Lmaoooo.

What's new to you,is what we've been doing in the 80s.

Past glory and experience? Looool

Your air force has never fired a single missile in combat.

The SAAF flew in world War 1 until today. SA is more experience operating jets unlike some whom crumble when hit with mild sanctions and had to put jets in the freezer.

agaugust: South Africa has superior command and control over Namibia, NOT Nigeria.


Dude, you mean Algeria that spends on weapons many times more than South Africa has no data-links for Algerian military ?

SIPRI or UN arms log will not record any country's data-links installations because it is NOT a weapon or combat equipment, it is a mere satellite two way communication network of data linked together on a number of equipment like aircraft, ships, and vehicles at the same time.

You SA guys make it sound like data links is a nuclear weapon....All South Africans dumbo domingos

See, Nigeria has data links but we don't make noise about it, sure Egypt will have..or how do they match Israel. Sure Algeria will have from their multi-billion dollar defence budget.

Now look....Nigeria has ISR aircraft that have data-links that are connected to many ground stations and other different equipment. At Nigeria's level of sophistication, our 3 armed forces can exchange information on-line real time via data-links from aircraft to warships to ground stations and major ground equipment.

In case you dont know, data-links depends 100% on satellite network and Nigeria is far ahead of South Africa in satellite technology, so it means Nigeria has satellites and supports it's data-links by them, but South Africa has NO single satellite and therefore depends on another country's satellites to connect SANDF data-links, the day you offend them, they just disconnect your data-link and you enter hot pepper soup.

You Soweto guys here are NOT telecoms or satcoms experts, so stop yapping about data-links when you know next to nothing about the detailed engineering of how it actually works.

You don't know that even different types of data links that are totally different and irrelevant to each other, can be integrated to work together via a coordinating translator/correlator. So you guys should stop claiming to be experts of a technology that you know less than 1% of.

Nigeria has data-links and includes both fixed and mobile ground stations data-link network integrated systems as well as linked to different weapons/equipment/platforms including our very small ISR Diamond aircraft you do not even know about....


[size=14pt]Nigerian military data-links

2013 upgrade contract with U.S. Navy & Private Contractor

Nigerian Air Force upgrades Diamond intelligence aircraft
Posted by: Ade Tayo in Latest News 08/05/2013

The U.S. Navy is working with the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) to enhance their intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) capabilities by upgrading equipment on two Diamond DA-42 aircraft and associated ground stations, according to contract documents released Monday through the Federal Business Opportunities website.

The Navy is seeking a contractor to upgrade ISR equipment on two DA-42 Diamond Twin Star aircraft, data links and antennas of existing fixed ground stations, and provide two new portable ground stations, training, optional spares and an optional Field Service Representative.

All modifications, testing, delivery, and training shall be performed in Nigeria, the Navy said in contract documents.

The contractor will be responsible for uninstalling all existing aircraft and fixed ground station ISR equipment made obsolete by the upgraded equipment, the Navy said. This equipment shall remain the property of the NAF."

http://flynaija.org/nigerian-air-force-upgrades-diamond-intelligence-aircraft/

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PHOTO : U.S. NAVY HAS THE BEST DATA LINKS TECHNOLOGY IN THE WORLD AND PROVIDED UPGRADES AS WELL AS NEW EXTRA MOBILE DATA LINK GROUND STATIONS FOR NIGERIA THROUGH THEIR OWN AMERICAN DATA LINK CONTRACTOR.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_Data_Link

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/US_Navy_040614-N-7952W-001_Information_Systems_Technician_1st_Class_Thomas_Dull%2C_left%2C_Lt._Stella_Nealy%2C_center%2C_and_Information_Systems_Technician_2nd_Class_Eduardo_Pallanes_study_a_computer_monitor_at_Naval_Network_and_Space.jpg/800px-thumbnail.jpg

IT technicians study Tactical Data Link data on a computer terminal (US Naval Network and Space Operations Command)


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Your opinion is not a fact.

You don't have MIL-STD data links.

Henry120: Nigeria has far more superior command and control structure than you can dream of.

We have a COBRA like, data links facility here in nigeria. The only facility of such anywhere on this continent.

You no Military standard data links.

I hate when @Henry120 behaves like the picture resembles his head.

"We have $1 billion we can grab 200 Bigfoot MRAPS while doing so,we can also get IFV from China...............blah blah blah blah blah."

Watch the period between September and July next year chaps. When the military giant of Africa awakens.

The Hawk LIFT and Gripen are/will be able to receive information from the ESR 220 Thultwa mobile radar and ISTAR component from project cytoon. This enhances the effectiveness of stand-off munitions like missiles and smart bombs.

And it will be the case with Skyshield radar and the newer experimental missile guidance radar for the Umkhonto. Under phase two of the GBADS project.

FighterPilot: Only small acquisitions

Regular stuff like boats,uniform etc

Henry120: Nigeria has a state of the art COBRA facility. Similar to what the british have. It is more advanced that what you claim to have in south-africa.

Typical Beegeagles blogger.

You don't know what you're talking about.

I won't bother explaining the capabilities of the project Legend's Chaka C2 systems,which include blue force tracking. And compatible with the Link-ZA.

SANDF artillery corps's AS-2000 targeting system and new Skyshield air defense will be linked via Link-ZA MIL-STD data link. Meaning a Gripen can detect a helicopter and fed the info in real time displaying on the screens of the GBADS command computer.

Or ISTAR equipment acquired under project cytoon can fed enemy positions to the AS-2000 artillery targeting computer. All in near time,scouts(SA army Intel corps personnel) can "train" artillery guns on enemy targets.

Superior Command and control.

Henry120: #Reminder


"The budget shortfall also meant the SANDF would have to cut operations and acquisitions."

Let me make it simple for you.

To implement the defence review the government will have to spend billions of dollars,buying equipment suggested by the review. This includes Amphibious assault ships,light and heavy transporters etc

So the SANDF funding totally has nothing to with the implementation. The Defence budget will then be increased.

Your country spends less on defence,you should imagine the rot in your force.

Henry120: 1)There are no Patria IFV's in SANDF service, they haven't entered service with your loan defence force. Lol

2) The SAAF only fly 10 half-french helicopters

3) No they don't.

1. The Badger IFV has been delivered to the army for testing,if we at war it would be sent to front lines.

2. SAAF has 11 Rooivalks.

Ibnsultan: Nig military

Mate,is the guy on the first pic just posing with machine gun or what?

Henry120: More lying to yourself, when would you stop mike.

Anyway, just in case you've forgotten again,

The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) is facing a "catastrophic" multi-billion-Rand financial crisis that could force mass retrenchments and the indefinite postponement of the acquisition of essential equipment.



Oh well, keep daydreaming.

From next month everything changes. Pray for September not to come. Yes my dream(implementing the 2014 defence review) is slowly by surely becoming a reality.

Your quote clearly have words like "facing"...."that could".

agaugust: He said it, go sh.oot him if you can

He never said anything about Nigeria.

His was a highly experienced officer,he flew Mirages alongside Captain Arthur Piercy,in Angola during counter air operations against Cuban and Angolan MIG-23.

Your air force has never in its history engaged in counter air ops.

Msauza: That chief of so called SANDF is truly insane if he would have ever said that. How could he ever compare new generation airforce against that of a third world country.

SAAF under project saucepan will get a long range MP aircraft.

The suggestion about the aircraft augubuhu is talking was made,before the 2012 defence review.

Henry120: Have you seen Syrian Army up-graded T-72's take a beating in the syrian civil war? An Upgraded T-72 is a great tank.


1. Why would nigeria need a Half-french helicopter, which you don't even want ( you only got 10 of them), when we got MI-35M's.

No sane person would trade an MI-35M for a half-french helicopter.

2. You have no patria IFV's in SANDF.

3. We got both BTR-3U's and Sagaie AFVs

4. Our Palmaria artillery system is one of the best howitzer's in the world.

5. We got up-graded T-72's in service. Your Olifant is a museum relic.

6. MGLs, AGLs, we have tons of those in actual service, not photo-shoots. Actual service.

7. SSG-69 and Dragunov sniper rifles are amongst the best sniper rifles in the world.

The rest of your gibberish...... Just as usual.

1. The SANDF has received the Badger IFV already. They're putting it in trails before production can begin.

2. The SANDF has 11 Rooivalks not 10.

3. The SANDF has better sniper and anti- material rifle.

Henry120: Nuff said on this D.Ata l.inks issue.

The nigerian military possesses data links capability. We it practically used in the rescue of two vessels, one off the coast of Angola, the other in ghana.

We also continue to see this capability during the yearly exercise obangame.

We have also seen the ground control/analysis center, the military's situation room.

We haven't seen this capability been deployed by the SANDF or even written.

Your claims are childish mate.

The USA,Russia,China etc and in Africa,South Africa are still developing for fitting sensors on helmets linked with data links to command centers to show "where are my men","where are my artillery guns situated" etc

Even Hitle...,Churchill and others had war time operational centres.

Henry120: Nigeria has more surveillance assets than your retirement home defence force can dream of.

We've seen data links used in many real life situations (I gave examples), aslo during multiple military exercises we carry out yearly (obangame, winds and majepo et al).

Your imaginary data links only exists in the minds of your SAloanNDF. I'm very sure you guys believe in "unicorns" and "big foot".


SAloanNDF have no data links. It doesn't exist in that retirement home defence force.

You love making how about we compare?

Henry120: Nigeria has more surveillance assets than your retirement home defence force can dream of.

We've seen data links used in many real life situations (I gave examples), aslo during multiple military exercises we carry out yearly (obangame, winds and majepo et al).

Your imaginary data links only exists in the minds of your SAloanNDF. I'm very sure you guys believe in "unicorns" and "big foot".


SAloanNDF have no data links. It doesn't exist in that retirement home defence force.

No one disputes that.

Yes,Nigeria like most defense forces has data links. But that's where it ends.

You don't have MIL-STD data links like NATO Link 11,16,22 and SA's Link-ZA.

But whatever I never expect a Beegeagles blogger to understand Combat Net Interoperability Standard (CNIS).

All SANDF communication systems are made to be compatible with Link-ZA,it is mandatory.

It cuts the decision making process shorter. Example say an aircraft strayed into a SANDF no fly zone,the Defence minister will receive real time info about the situation. While engaging the air defense chief,giving him/her and generals options on whether to use jets or GBADS to intercept or shot down.

agaugust: .
[size=16pt]Chief Of Air Force For South Africa Close To Tears....

Want's Nigerian Air Force's Beechcraft ISTAR Aircraft....

Confesses SANDF/SAAF Is 66 Years Far Behind NAF !!

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/international-developments-drive-the-saafs-needs-for-new-aircraft-2011-05-27 [/size]

Lieutenant General Carlo Gagiano retired in 2010. Stop lying.

South Africa will be getting airborne command and control AEW&C planes looool

Henry120: Stop spewing multiple gibberish.

I've shown you practical uses of nigerian Data links. You shown us nothing.

So you tell us, how nigerian ATR's are able to share information with ships at sea?

Lool .

Nigeria has no standard data links

Pathetic.

Henry120: Nuff said on this D.Ata l.inks issue.

The nigerian military possesses data links capability. We it practically used in the rescue of two vessels, one off the coast of Angola, the other in ghana.

We also continue to see this capability during the yearly exercise obangame.

We have also seen the ground control/analysis center, the military's situation room.

We haven't seen this capability been deployed by the SANDF or even written.

NATO uses Link-11 if I'm not mistaken or it was been replaced. SA uses Link-ZA. Nigeria has no data links please name it or shut it.

Ground control? Air forces have them. From analyzing reconnaissance pictures to Intel is what they're used for.

Link-ZA links systems in the field to the commanders' Chaka C2 system. In the future soldiers will be tracked on the battlefield by sensors on their helmets called "impi".

The commander are able to receive real time information relayed to them from the battlefield via Link-ZA. It ables the Defence force to act as one muscle.

The Hawk can fire a radar guided missile linked to the Gripen it can guide it with Linkza.