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rvp20182:
Africans are just primitive. The clay is all over and all they need is to mold it - and turn into roof, walls and name it. Yes Rwanda rural is very beaituful - but sadly the art of making clay tiles is giving way to cheap iron sheet.

That's why I think that instead of eliminating those structures, we should invest in perfecting them. So few architects really look into that because the demand for Western is much higher. Anyways, I see so much potential there. Wow, cant wait to visit !

rvp20182:
Yes but they rot fast and catch fire. You can easily make clay tiles - using the dirt from your ground - and have more economically, more cooler and name it roofer.

If you visit Rwanda - you'll see clay tiled houses - sadly they are giving in to iron sheet.

Rural rwanda is just beautiful - with rolling hills.

Oh really? wow I never knew that. Thanks for sharing these houses are also great. I think I will look into them, thank you

Shma:
personally I like S. A but when a southy speaks bullshit about our country we'll stand up and defend it as strong partriots, irregardless of who you are.
Your boy has been spewing bullshit all the time because he knows S. A is heaven compare to nearly all the black ridden economies.
But guess what? No country will ever lack a challenge and in fact, S. A have more problems that we do, save for natural calamities.

Sorry, I'm not really part of this bashing thing you guys have going on in this thread. I just like architecture and interior design. And I love the pictures being put up from time to time when people showcase their countries. It has motivated me to travel in my continent. Other than that, i really have no interest in bashing poverty. The way i see it is that every soul that comes on this thread to bash another country for being poor, is troubled and in need of serious reform.

Austine1213:
Incase you don't know there in houses in urbans areas with thatch roorf, many pubs are thatch roof,

ModernvThatch roof are quite popular here, its part of culture here thatch is not going anywhere in SA, just like tiles roof won't leave japan

I absolutely love those houses! It's very popular and the design is beautiful. I definitely wanna incorporate that style into my own house. It's why I love South Africa, people promote their cultural heritage and don't shame it in an attempt to be "modern"

ashewoboy:
awon feminist will not like this.


awon alpha males will like this.

I'm starting to believe that most people here don't know what feminism is.

Btw, as a feminist, I like any attempt to emancipate women.

Such an informative video. Thank you for this and all other videos you make. You are good at what you do, keep it up!

grandlexuz:
Funny how this thread on Zindzi's death digressed into a debate. With the exception of the lunatic Iceyjays the discussion has been civil and educative at best. Shout out to YeboMadiba, Minxie and Morpheus24 for keeping your decorum while airing your concerns.
I certainly have learned alot. There is no denying South Africans have been very tolerant enough. Cameroon belongs to same geopolitical association as Gabon and Guinea Equatoreal. Yet Cameroonian immigrants get it tough in these countries. I hear in Ghana, Nigerians and other foreigners aren't allowed to do certain low skilled job reserved for just nationals. The SA society is totally overwhelmed by foreigners who have brought in different vices. Several years ago during a Big Brother Africa contest I listened with solidarity to the legitimate complaints against foreigners by the SA representive (Barbie).

Most of us Africans have an entitlement mentality.Even in our families because an aunt gave you a plate of beans when you were young she feels entitled to a portion of your salary forever. Lol. South Africans dont owe the rest of Africa a never ending debt for standing by them during apartheid. In solidarity the SA government has over allowed African emigration to levels that are now difficult to get a hold over. The citiizens have the right however to call government immigration policies into order without being violent. I think that is where a bunch of SA folks got it wrong. You can't burn peoples shops and target them for being foreigners. However they can hold placards and match the streets for regulation on immigration by the government. Propose meaningful ideas through their constituents. Thanks Yebomadiba for those impressive anti xenophobia pictures.

Foreigners are always part of the development of every country. Dubai and many Arab countries have more foreigners than locals. Not saying SA should allow more foreigners than its locals but foreigners will always be a part of the society. The government should look at repatriating those involved in a certain level of crime or without meaningful stay in SA. Only then will foreign crime drop. I know of Cameroonians who have been in SA for 20 years unable to send a box of quinine back home during a malaria attack. Lol I also understand there are lots of violent local crimes as well especially towards women. Much work really has to be done by the government.

I was talking to a Cameroonian friend in SA who had an SA friend by her side. When her SA friend stepped away I teasingly asked if she has a big bumbum. She said no. Jokingly I replied " South African girl without bumbum is that one South African". LOL. So yes most west Africans are fascinated with the big bumbum of most SA girls and thus I cant help but smile at all the fight taking place in SA over their girls. Even the lunatic Iceyjays has a South African babe. Minxie if you are not married abeg I deh available oh. I perfectly agree with Minxie over women being attracted to foreigners. In my country I hear girls say they cant marry to a man from their tribe. They prefer another tribe. Definitely foreigners bring a different erotic refreshment. In Cameroon most girls know Nigerian guys just want to play. When marriage time comes the run back to Naija and get a wife. For 220 dollars a Nigerian can get a Cameroonian residential permit valid 2 years, so no one marries for citizenship.

The rivalry between Nigerians and South Africa is a topic for another day.Lol. If only most subsahara African governments could better their own countries SA wouldn't have to deal with all that influx of African economic migrants. The US is building a wall, Italy is refusing migrant ships from docking its wharf, the fight against illegal immigration is real.Even in Cameroon foreigners get repatriated for not having papers. As we condemn South Africans we must also appreciate many of them have been tolerant and their land has been one of milk and honey for many Africans. As South Africans condemn crimes brought in by foreigners they must also look at bearing responsibility for crimes commited by locals. I read a disturbing story of an abaThembu King a nephew of Mandela chasing the son with an axe after leaving prison on parole. Stringent penalties should be instituted for violent and drug related crimes be it from foreigners or locals.

Shalom '

I love people like you!

Totally agree with what you've said and most South Africans agree to that but unfortunately these views never get out. People choose to fixate on a few xenophobic views from a minority of citizens.

Thank you for bringing your calmness to the thread.

Hahaha I'm too young to even think about marriage

May you appear on more threads that spin out of control to defuse the situation with your level-headed responses.

Love and peace

morpheus24:
To a certain extent yes they are. There has been a growing perception over the years that "foreigners" come to the country and take "thier" women away from them, as if their women are property that is waiting for them.

I believe this mindset comes from the fact that the women now have many more options available to them that was not present.

Apartheid brought about a lot of destabilization to the family unit which disrupted certain innate African values that centered on the family as a unit. Men were separated from their women, having to travel far distances to seek work, this in turn increased the issue of promiscuity perpetrated by both partners I must add, the culture of rape, illegitimate children, alchoholism and lack of financial support from spouses.

Now I am not saying these issues are not present in other societies across Africa, however this is much more pronounced in the Black South African communities.

In come these Africans with different value systems and thus the shift in many of their females becoming attracted to some of the values these "foreigners" bring.

Its a hard reality pill to swallow but its on them to fix this problem and chasing away their competition is not one of the solutions.

My two cents.

I think you've made a good point. I agree with you and would like to add something. I would like to point out that there's a perception that South African women like Nigerian men especially. Which is not true. South African women like all kinds of foreign men because of the points you made and more.

However there is a certain amount of care being displayed by South African men (fathers, uncles and brothers)because of the rate at which some foreigners have deceived local women just to get papers. This is also something that contributes to the theory of "they are taking our women".

South African women love foreigners (from all over and not just Nigeria)because we think they are different to what we know. this doesn't necessarily mean that our own men are bad. Truth is that women from all over think the worst of their own men. Just look at the case of Nigeria. I've spoken to women from many countries who all prefer foreign men. A Chinese prefers Italian men but an Italian girl prefers brazilian men. This happens in most countries. Women like foreign men because they bring a sense of erotic, exotic and adventure. Exploring the unknown... it's sexy

jln115:
En ons almal weet jy is eindlik n Nigerian!!!

Lmklaaaaa! danki man, as wyn ni verban wasi het ek nou vjo n dop gekoop

I have a few friends who have visited Ghana and they had so many good things to say. I can't wait to go and experience it for myself. I do wish that Ghana would do more to market it's tourism industry though. The rest of the world needs to know how nice it is.

TWservices:
SA is a very good option for study and good life. Only few people realise this. Forget xenophobia. How many educated legit working-class Nigerians have been victim?

True,

However, people shouldn't think it's just gonna be easy peasy. South African graduates start from the bottom and work their way up so it's obviously gonna be more difficult for a foreign person.

Reckyd123:
When millions of foreigners living in S.A. lament on what they pass through everyday, you say they are insulting there host. Sorry, this is my first time ever to write anything here especially as it concern S.A. but your lies here need to be corrected. Those lies are the reason why the ills against foreigners in S.A. seem not to be addressed. Instead of you to acknowledging that there's problem of accommodating all in your country, you are in denial. Thus is no different to many racists that never believe they are one.

When I was working in Botswana and Swaziland, I had peace of mind and I pray SM transferred out of this hateful country after covid. I am not happy being here. Get that

Yes there is a problem with accommodating foreigners. This problem I already addressed. The fact that you were at peace in Botswana and swaziland was because they get quality skilled foreign professionals that they need and want. So their people don't have a problem with their immigration policy or with foreigners.

The hostility in SA is attributed to the fact that South Africans are terribly upset about our immigration policy that is way more open than the policies of other countries. We are expressing our concern as to why South Africa is accommodating so many unskilled or under skilled individuals and criminals (these are two different sets of foreigners btw). You even have to admit, are there so many foreigners in Botswana who are doing odd jobs as there are in South Africa?

Again, South Africans are hostile for a reason. We don't go around shooting and killing foreigners wherever we go. We have a problem with criminals. And I've said it before, we shouldn't take it out on the foreigners (unless they are criminals) but we should take it out on our government. Which is something we are doing now.

But at the same time, you can't call us out for wanting the same policies that you have. Actually, Nigeria is one of the countries where immigration rules are tight and not just anyone can establish a business. The same with Ghana that has the law of their retail sector.

I'm sorry that you aren't happy here but I can also tell by the way you speak about South Africans why you aren't happy here. And your mindset will never allow you to be happy here.

Considering that you are in South Africa I expected you to give an honest account of things on the ground and not just a few hateful experiences of your own. I never denied that South Africans are hostile, i just explained why they can be in some instances. At least I owned up for our criminals. The people who committed those xenophobic acts are horrible and disgusting. You are here portraying criminals (not all foreigners) as innocent victims.

I'd like to emphasize that when I refer to foreign criminals, i mean criminals from another country and I don't mean that all foreigners are criminals. It's absurd to think that just like it's absurd to think all South Africans are xenophobic.

I will give you some advice though. The next time you engage South Africans, try to be a little more open and get to know them. Not just a few but get to know the people around you and try to form relationships with them. You will see that they are good people. I also live in another country as a foreigner and I've noticed that the people who hate that country are the ones who don't try to fit in. I hope you enjoy the rest of your stay here and that you make lasting friendships.

Peace out

Reckyd123:
You are here spewing rubbish and claiming posh. Can you really pay rent? We know all of you and your low lives. Which people are the drunkards. Lol. Were you fathers not paid wages with alcohol. Stupid people that were just clamouring for alcohol during lockdown. If you guys drink responsibly, would government ban the sales of alcohol? It's because your sorry add can't stay without abusing it.

You come here claiming Rosebank that the whole of your family can't stay till they die unless only as a domestic.

How do you expect people to love you when you trash them like this? You are in South Africa and you are insulting them. Yet you preach here about how we apparently hate you. You are a disrespectful individual and people like you are the reason why good Nigerians have to suffer from stereotypes.

I know many great Africans so I won't judge them based on your comments. But I would like to take this moment to point out to many people that statement like the ones you have made while on South African soil, are the types of statements we South Africans hear a lot from foreigners like you. I'm not talking about all foreigners, im talking about foreigners who have the same mentality as you.

Please refrain from insulting the people who accommodate you. It isn't your right, it's a privilege to be welcomed in someone's home. Just like I won't insult Nigerians if I should visit there.

I hope you think about the hatred you are spewing. And I hope our paths never cross. Or let's say, you should hope our paths never cross

Good day

Reckyd123:
I wonder what you can really tell me about South Africa. In as much as I believe that not all are hateful especially the ladies, but that your 0.5% assertion is pure lies. You see hate everytime and everywhere. You are constantly being reminded by someone that you must go back to your country.

You said other blacks are not targeted? Even your neighbour's from Lesotho and Zimbabwe are not spared.

You said that it was just 5 shops were looted? Just along Jules street, over 50 shops on the road were looted and many burnt afterwards. the cars that were burnt including 2 of mine parked for sale were over 250.

You said the culprits were arrested and tried? That pure white lie. No person was tried. I don't need to read fokol, am here.

The guys in cape town are refugees that refused to go back to there communities for fear of being attacked by there host. What did you put up here? That they wanna go to Canada. These are people that just wanna be safe and asked to be relocated to a safer environment. During apartheid, didn't your people seek refuge in some other countries?

So most of the things you wrote were all twisted lies. You can sell such lies to people that are not here not someone like me.

Please read with comprehension. I never said a certain amount of shops were attacked. I made an estimation of xenophobic related looting sprees.

I never said other criminals weren't targeted. We were speaking about Nigerians so I only mentioned them.

yes the refugees were refusing to go back to their communities because of attacks... that never happened! people were totally flabbergasted and wondering what attacks they were talking about. I was in cape Town at the time at the refugee reception centre helping a friend with papers when the set of refugees protested causing the centre to close. It was like a stand off between foreigners. On the one side there were foreigners who wanted their papers to go back to work and on the other side there were foreigners badmouthing black South Africans and making up stories about attacks. Even the human rights Commission intervened and tried to help them but they were attacked along with journalists and people who were providing them with aid. Furthermore, i spoke to foreigners who owned shops and they even told me that those people are lying because they want a way to get to a better country because they would get easier circumstances in Canada. My friend, those foreigners were not attacked. They refused to be resettled and demanded housing or free repatriation to Canada. This upset South Africans a lot but they didn't do anything. We are trying to solve this diplomatically but no African government has intervened or offered to come get their dissatisfied citizens. What is even more astonishing is that the Nigerian government was quick to send a flight last time to save face but they don't wanna help these foreigners in cape Town who are supposedly being treated so badly.

You need to ask yourself, why does your government act with so much transparency and effectiveness when there's a xenophobic incident? Yet when their citizens need them in other cases, they are silent. The truth is, they are seen as heroes when they rescue "assaulted" Nigerians in South Africa. They immediately get the trust of the people and they feed off of that.

People were arrested. Please consult court documents if you want details about their trials and procedures. The media didn't report their court cases because we have more pressing issues to report on.


As I said, please get more information and read it with comprehension. Critically think and assess what you hear and see.

lucasalves:
you my friend are probably the only reasonable South African man I have seen on this platform and yes it's a free for all platform, this after all is the internet. A large portion of Nigerians migrating to South Africa are very low skilled and are people who have been failures in the country, and for some strange reason the South African government keep allowing them in.. that to me doesn't seem like immigration done right at all. You look at countries like America, Canada, and countries in the European Union who have strict and well monitored immigration system do not have these problems with Nigerians. In fact in the U.S Nigerians are second only to Asian Immigrants in terms of success, there are thousands of Nigerians working as doctors and health care professionals in those countries.. how South Africa for the most part get the fraudsters is a question you the citizens should be asking of your Government... here in Nigeria we also need to put a system in place to reduce the migration of these criminal elements. And nowadays thx to the realization that the pasture isn't always greener on the other side a lot more Nigerians are deciding to stay home and grow their businesses.. no matter what the world might say the last thing anyone will ever call Nigerians is lazy.. I totally agree 100% with you and this anger and hatred just have to stop..

Yes we South Africans are aware that Nigerians do great things abroad and we have expressed to government that we want more skilled people and not just any person. It's very strange because low life local criminals are so scared of traveling to other countries and it would be hard for them to do so because of criminal record checks. I don't understand why our government allows low life criminals from wherever to enter our country. I've seen so many Europeans here buying drugs And doing other disrespectful things too. And to be honest, there are refugees here who are very qualified in various fields but also unemployed and we want government to assist them rather than assisting any person who just comes into the country. You can do some research and find many centres where South Africans teach refugees various skills so that they can make a living here. These refugees are from countries with actual conflict. So now many South Africans are questioning why real refugees are suffering but economic migrants in the informal sector are supported by government.

In any event, if someone comes to SA for legitimate reasons, they will be welcomed with open arms. other than that，we treat all foreign criminals the same way we treat our own. This looting and mob justice isn't just against foreigners. If you read the South African news, you will see that communities regularly attack criminals (local and foreign) but unfortunately in Nigeria you guys only hear when Nigerian criminals are attacked so you think we are targeting you specifically.

Reckyd123:
You just LIE too much. Jeez!!

I was only asking you as Nigerians to consult more sources in order for you to make a more informed and less emotional opinion.

if you read and consult all the sources and still think all South Africans are just pure xenophobic, i won't blame you. But if you continue to spread hate backed by fake news, you're gonna cause way more pain and hatred between the two countries.

lucasalves:
I do see reason in your words. But hate begets hate. We all watched videos of South African men beating up Nigerians and burning Shops belonging to Nigerians, I don't think that's how a civilized country should treat foreigners regardless of what crimes they think they might have committed. Why not go through the proper channel and let the Justice system do its work? If you are telling me to refrain from my hate speech you probably should tell your brothers here the same thing. Long before the Covid pandemic unemployment has been an issue your government has failed to address (same goes for the Nigerian government), at least that was said to be one of the reasons why young south African men were roaming the streets beating up Nigerians and destroying their property. Are there criminals within the Nigerian community there? of course!!! why don't you push for immigration reforms restricting the entry of these individuals?
no Nigerian is asking you to worship them because they work hard but I do hope you know when your country men get on a Nigerian platform branding all Nigerians as criminals, that can be insulting to the millions of hardworking ones who are like you disgusted about the actions of the criminal elements... so how about call out hate speech on both sides.

Yes, we are pushing reforms now but unfortunately that is still seen as xenophobic.

Also, you are complaining about something you are guilty of doing too. You think it's disrespectful for South Africans to come on a Nigerian forum (the internet is open to all btw) and badmouth Nigerians. I agree with you, it's disrespectful of them.

Yet there are so many Nigerians in SA badmouthing South Africans. Do you think that's fair? I even see Nigerians on this forum located in SA badmouthing the very same people who are accommodating them. How can you be in another person's country, sharing their space and still talk ill of them? not even just amongst yourselves but in front of those people.

I see people here calling a South African xenophobic without them even knowing the person. and funnily enough, they call us all xenophobic based on fake news. I swear, like 0.5% of South Africans are xenophobic. Actually compared to other countries, South Africans display the same amount of displeasure at illegal immigration and illegal activities of foreigners. There were a few looting sprees. Probably like 5 that involved 0.005 of the total population. The other protests you see about South Africans against foreigners are about South Africans against illegal activities of foreigners. Not foreigners in general. Your media just twists stories and your government gladly supports it because it makes them look like heroes.

In any case, we are equally ashamed and frustrated by the 0.5% and they were arrested and dealt with which is something your media didn't report. Ive seen a few South Africans on this forum who have given you true facts but you all tell them that they are lying. The latest xenophobic attacks were triggered when foreign criminals attacked police who were enforcing the law. Even a few months ago there were foreigners occupying cape Town and messing up the area because they wanted to go to Canada.

We aren't perfect but please try to get the full information before you tell us off. we are working on those xenophobic elements in our country but we expect the Nigerian government to also work on ensuring that criminals don't flood SA. We know there are good Nigerians. We just don't understand why the bad ones come here and spoil things along with our own criminals. We don't send our criminals to Nigeria so we expect the same. If you can address this situation at home, there would be no hostility. We addressed the looters and other criminals here.

lucasalves:
actually it's simple when you have a population of lazy men in a country they sit on their hands all day and wait for manna from heaven and your women are no better than prostitute... Nigerians can't live like that.. the only reason that country still remain like that is because of the white population... you will see all the black men running around harassing foreigners when all their wealth is controlled by the white population who until a few years ago are still actively chasing them off their own landed property... they are slaves in their country and the best part of it is they don't know

Hi there,

I had to come and correct you on this.

Firstly, let go of the mentally that convinced you that demanding accountability from govern means the person is lazy. The covid19 crisis is hitting everyone hard and across the world governments are providing for their citizens.

Secondly, UIF is a fund that both employer and employee contribute to. The amount you get out depends on the amount you put it. If you have a job, you contribute to this fund. It's an insurance that insures that you have an income should you somehow lose your job while looking for another. So if someone receives R5000 from that fund, it means that they contributed that much to the fund over the years. to be able to contribute, one needs to have a job. To have a job means that one is not lazy. So please, instead of bashing South Africans for having UIF, you should be asking your government why you don't have it.

Lastly, if South Africa decides to give its citizens certain benefits, it's their problem. I'll have you know that there's a fund that also gives money to refugees and asylum seekers in SA. South Africans all contribute to their economy. Even those who work abroad pay tax at home. So if they get support from their governments, commend them on that instead of calling them lazy.

We all work hard here but it is a norm and not something to brag about. Which is why you don't hear us talk about our contributions to society. Just because we don't brag doesn't mean we do nothing.

Please refrain from your hate speech especially when you don't know everything.

I hope you see reason in my words.

babasolution:
The Chinese in my opinion are engaged for such projects because of their supposed expertise and experience ,Nigerians are used for the general work of those projects most times you just have a few Chinese directing things with hundreds of Nigerians doing the actual work,also nigeria has local content laws,there is a maximum number of foreigners that can be employed in such situations, its not free for all,although sometimes the foreigners might want to bribe officials to bring more of their people but it is generally followed

thanks for clearing things up.
I guess to me it just seems odd because Nigeria has been independent and working for much longer than SA so it's always strange when they look for expertise elsewhere. One would assume that Nigeria would be the country providing the expertise to others. But thank you for telling me more about that situation. I'm glad that they are regulated carefully. I wish it was something we could do too.

babasolution:
Someone mentioned that Nigerians are lazy and our economy is being bouyed by Chinese and lebanese.Truth is its false,the Chinese aren't into business in Nigeria so much,they are mainly into road construction and Lebanese also do not have any business in Nigeria that is not rivaled or even bettered by a local Nigerian owned business,Nigeria produces so many things now,gone are the days of so called importing pencils and toothpick,its just that due to massive population local production might not be able to meet demand so we might still need to augment with imports ,but going forward Nigeria is even going more and more local,almost all sectors of Nigerian economy is in the hands of Nigerians,the mainstay of oil is 70% local,only road construction and and probably factories have probably more foreign dominance for now.many people don't know but Nigeria is only going to get better,we have seen our worst times,that's what you guys don't understand .The way Nigeria is going to develop in the coming years will shock Africa

Okay I understand what you are saying and as you may have noticed, i told the person that it isn't fair to call Nigerians lazy when we don't know their circumstances. Also, i think the comment about laziness was made because Nigerians on this forum usually call South Africans lazy so it was kinda like an ironic type of joke. At least, that's how I took it.

We weren't saying that Chinese and Lebanese are taking over the Nigerian market. We were simply saying that the fact that Chinese etc are the ones employed in massive projects like construction and factories is problematic for its citizens because these citizens should be used and not foreign labour. We aren't saying that Nigerians are incapable of doing these things. Actually I was advocating for Nigerians by saying that there are so many Nigerians who are everywhere doing things but their own government would rather use Chinese etc for such projects.

I am proud that Nigeria is producing more because it means that its citizens will benefit. It's a situation of putting Nigeria first (something that South Africans are also campaigning for themselves).

In fact, if more countries got their acts together, there wouldn't be such a huge refugee and displacement crisis. Nobody is against Nigeria becoming great. I have no idea where you (and many others) get this notion that South Africans don't want you to develop. In fact, if you develop, we would be able to reap more benefits such as more trade and investment and, obviously, job creation.

jln115:
So not to far from me currently in Mossel Bay

you know, I've never explored mossel bay. I've always just kinda drove through it but never really spent time there. You are so fortunate to see the ocean every day... Hahaha now I know who to contact when I'm ever in that area

Dyonne:
I see what you're saying about the potential of shoprite in Nigeria and I agree with you to some extent.
I still think shoprite has done well wherever it has been able to set up and will do well if it chooses locations properly.
As to why it's not everywhere, I think some politics is at play in that regard.

I also know what you mean about the Gatsby takeout vs 5 Star restaurant. I think most people feel that way too. Not to worry, theres something for everyone. When I want to feel down to earth, I know where to go. When I want to feel like I'm doing well in life, I also know where to go

A friend once told me, "Dyon if you're eating and you dont see a single fly, be very careful about that place but if you see flies, you can relax and eat whatever you like". Its not to be taken literally but theres a meaning behind that, can you decipher it?

If you're paying off student debt, then you've graduated. Can I ask what you studied?

Interesting saying...
Well so far I have a bachelor's degree: BA Law. But before you judge, im currently in my final year of honours and then heading for Masters I know I still know very little but I'm trying. Ive met many other Africans with higher degrees so I always feel so inferior Lol

babasolution:
You people can keep deceiving yourselves,you don't know anything,how many Chinese businesses or even Lebanese owned businesses in Nigeria,you just trying to provoke Nigerians,well Nigerians are going to live you guys behind,the way it will hit you people in SA ehn will be so shocking

I don't understand... Can you elaborate please?

ololo12:
Yes, it does have a website. It depends on the kind of martial art you're interested in. Personally, I'd recommend Krav Maga for you. But you can choose between Krav Maga and Wing chun. I do both martial art style. Here's the website for both martial art styles
http://www.wtkungfu.co.za/
https://www.stormcombat.com/

Let me know what you think.

thank you

Dyonne:
Proper understanding of consumer demands...

Right! I didn't want to type too much before but when you said businesses struggle in Nigeria, I wanted to raise this point. It's very important to a business but overlooked or underestimated by many.
Also the business climate isnt as smooth as it could be but still many businesses overcome it.

Why do you think shoprite cant/hasn't fully penetrated the market? They seem to do well anywhere they set up shop.


Do you run a business in S.A?

Just based on the lack of shoprite stores in Nigeria. It has the potential to have more stores in Nigeria than South Africa according to population statistics. I think South African companies have approached Nigeria the same way they approached South Africa. They didn't get to know the people of Nigeria and assumed they are the same as South Africans. They didn't spend time with the average Nigerian to properly identify what is wanted and what is needed. They approached the rich Nigerians and forgot the poor. They completely neglected the socio economic responsibility and I think this especially would've given them proper marketing in Nigeria. Poor people see those stores as out of their reach. It's up to these companies to make the average citizen feel like they need them and want them. You can't want and need something that you feel no connection to. Like I would rather buy a gatsby from a takeout place than a gatsby at a fancy five star restaurant. I won't feel connected to the five star restaurant because it doesn't have my vibe. whereas the normal take out joint speaks to my culture and social circle.

This is obviously just my opinion...

No unfortunately I don't own a business. I'm still paying off student debt Lol but I'm here talking like I know things ! please don't take my opinions as me trying to be an expert

Dyonne:
Well that's another thing entirely.

And we dont actually think of things as "foreign businesses" (with possible exceptions for cultural stuff like cuisine, arts and entertainment etc). Its just business, something new and different. We may know its owned by a foreigner but we dont think of it that way.

I dont think anyone thinks of mtn, dstv, shoprite as foreign (except when the chips are down ). They are part of the landscape and so would yours be.

definitely, im sure the people will be fine but it's just a very harsh business environment. There's also such a big difference between SA and Nigeria. without proper understanding of consumer demands and the market, my business will surely fail. I mean, if shoprite can't successfully penetrate the market, what chance do I have? lol but thanks for your interest in listening to my future business ventures

jln115:
YES!! 100% correct....they don't know what they want to be!! a liberal capitalist party like they used to be or a socialist ANC lite....hence why they lost not just white voters but also Black and coloured voters who were fed up with ANC policies!!

Where are you from if I may ask?

I hate this question because I've moved around so many times (only in 1 province though)... Let's just say I'm from the Boland in the Western Cape. I'm looking forward to moving again though. I'm one of those people who can't stay in one place for more than a year I don't even have a permanent place of residence lol !

where are you from?

jln115:
I only voted for the DA because I simply had no better option, not because I like the DA!!

But with Mashaba I genuinely feel excited to vote for someone I really believe in!! at least now i can vote for a party I want to, I don't have to pick the lesser devil like in previous elections.

So true! i was thinking of playing eanie meanie miny mo at the next election Lol

jln115:
The fact remains that the majority of DA voters are colourdes regardless of what we think of the DA!!

No I don't deny that. I'm saying that many people have realized that the DA is "deurmekaar" and they don't have the same ideology anymore. I don't really know much because my area is more ANC than DA. And I suck at South African politics But thanks for giving me statistics I never knew the DA had such a huge coloured support base.

jln115:
Agree 100% with what you are saying!! After the way the DA handled the De Lille saga as well as corruption allegations I also decided not to vote for the DA last year.........

And yes!!! I was/am a massive supporter of Mashaba and will definitely be voting for his party once he created one!!

many people share this sentiment about the DA

jln115:
Only 17% of people in Western cape is white yet the DA got 55.5% of the vote in 2019............You do the math

FYI the DA has actually been more successful with their land redistribution policy than the ANC.........and they actual give title deeds!!

You are forgetting that not only coloureds voted for them. their black support base here was also strong. People didn't vote for them because of their color but because of what they promised and represented. However as soon as their actual agenda came to light, people realised their mistake. It's not just the land distribution... it's the gentrification in cape Town... People are very unhappy about that and it will affect the DA's position. They promised the people one thing and then turned around to do the opposite. The DAs success with land is actually one of the reasons that motivated many coloreds to vote for them. Obviously things changed...

Can't wait for the drama in the next election! yikes