₦airaland Forum

Nchenches:
If Igbo does not succeed PMB, Nigeria is on the road to Golgotha.

“Animal Kingdom” of George Orwell can’t be Nigeria.

So your own wisdom, you think apc that's the most hated thing in SE will actually give its party ticket to an igbo man?

Igbochief001:
GEJ is igbo ? Or u are joking ?

Lol yoruba people feeling like they matter in Nigeria ...smh

2023 but Nigeria and the leaders installed in igbo land by Nigeria all would feel the heat

We matter than you, even your shadow isn't blind to that.

The only heat you guys are capable of generating is to return home and review the systemic issues that have made other regions dislike your people.

Igbochief001:
Lol u mean leaders that was rigged in by Nigeria ? U mean the likes of hope that was made governor by the north ?

No worry 2023 sha una go see real Igbos in action if we are denied our turn

Where did I mention hope? Which igbo leader is even anything to write home about?

The bolded is nothing but the usual empty bragado. The best you guy can get, maybe for fairness sakes, is senate presidency. And if una still play una usual deadbeat politics, your bosses will scheme your people out as usual. You guys already had your chance with GEJ - we all know how you used it.

Igbochief001:
Nah rather can't share same country with people who can't trust us

Since we are evil and wicked make una allow us go and stay in our own country and practice our evil capitalism while una do una socialism

No one is stopping you guys to be honest. You should rather put the blame on your grandfathers who stupidly removed right to self-determination from the constitution and also entrenched this faulty system.

And if you guys are really tired of the lack of trust, make Una return home fully and force your leaders to do the needful. But based on current realities, and the level of hate igbos have been doling out since 2015, igbo presidency is nothing but utopia.

XANDERO85:
There was never a time Igbos were 'all over Aso Rock'! You people will never admit injustice if you feel the person being wronged is Igbo!

Fuc'king useless country!

Stfu! Igbos love Jonathan because they were the biggest players during his reign and were cashing out bigly. You can't fool everyone with your aba-standard falsehood.

Igbochief001:
Where is it written that power is divided between north and south ...u hypocrite

North o, South o. Most non-igbos can't trust igbos with power. All these emotional rants won't change the fact on ground. You guys should rather evaluate the reason of the lack of trust and make changes, especially attitudinally.

NORSIYK:
Only a foolish Igbo will even consider voting APC after their 5 years plus disaster and alienating Igbos from any meaningful appointment.
PDP right from the formation of it has carried Igbos along and with every other regions, PDP hasn't discriminated against any region throughout the time they were in power.
Can you say that about apc?

Tell us the feasible infrastructural development pdp brought to the east in 16 years aside the "meaningful" appointments that didn't stop the second-class notion of Igbos.

But Mr Abaribe you were cool when your people were chopping all the Aso Rock largesse and SW were nowhere to be found abi? Don't worry, save your wailing. Post-2023 is still on its way.

DMerciful:
We fought to get out of Nigeria, you fought to keep us in Nigeria so you have to deal with the consequences of having Igbos around. If you think we are irritants then brace up because we can only get stronger the farther the years from the civil war, our weakest point! Restructuring will favor Igbos more than Igbo presidency because presidency benefits the president, his friends and family. But some people are blocking restructuring because of the fear of Igbo domination. Imagine a country developing policy to prevent domination by merit! So meritocracy has been replaced with mediocrity as a national policy since 1970 after the Biafra war ended. How can you be afraid of meritocratic domination? You just need to up your game!

Well, you're the first igbo man voicing out in support of restructuring. Your brothers are either for an imaginary online country or an unachievable presidency.

SpecialAdviser:
God bless Umahi, the best governor in Nigeria.

APC should give him ticket.[

Yes now. So he can return to pdp afterwards.

DMerciful:
Systemic corruption is far more in this APC led govt and you know it. Inspite of gagging the media, we still hear of massive corruption. Sore losers? Please! The rest of Nigeria that voted Bubu out of spite are the real losers, immediately Bubu won in 2015, we knew what to expect so adjusted but you guys who expected improvement and never made backup plans are worse off!

Igbo presidency? It's just a matter of time and that fear that if an Igbo man becomes president,
he will rock the boat will surely come to pass. But growing national poverty will force Nigeria to stop the gang up against Igbos by way of restructuring or balkanization

What's the meaning of the bolded? Where's you fact? Or you simply conjured up aba-made stats and decided to just throw it in as a point? Many individuals (including igbos and non-igbos) learnt to adjust with the economic realities, yeah. Ironically, it's the Igbos that make up the loudest noisemakers - always on the edge to analyze issues while their region remains backward with no feasible development. Buhari has failed undeniably, but is Buhari also the governor of your five states? Which sensible development has the igbo nation achieved despite the much acclaimed "superiority.?"


BTW, thank you for coming to terms with the fact that restructuring is far more achievable than an igbo presidency. The well-publicized empty ego is even written all over your comments.

DMerciful:
Igbos has never depended on govt per se! The most important thing an Igbo man needs is to be treated fairly as others are treated. You hear us hammering about equity and justice, we do not want to be treated better than others, but like others. Give us progressive policies and we are good. That's what PDP brought to fore while APC brings repressive policies, poverty oriented systems, we can't deal.

You have not asked the grossly underdeveloped North what 40yrs of rule brought to them but you're hypocritically asking the Igbos what PDP did for them. In the US, the blue states vote the Democrats party for a very long time so why chastise the East for sticking with PDP?

No one is chastising east for sticking with pdp. It's rather about you guys being sore losers just because your favorite party was ousted democratically. And if progressive policies means systemic corruption and a totally absent infrastructural development, then you guys need to do a total check on your values.

And please stop trying to twist fact, even the devil knows that igbos have superficial ego and always want to dominate, hence the reason why no one wants to trust an igbo man with power.

DMerciful:
We cannot be bounded by borders created by illegitimate military govts so talking about SE for Igbos is talking nonsense! Igbos have stakes all over Nigeria! We left Nigeria btw 1967-1970 so when Nigeria fought for us to be in Nigeria,
they have to deal with the consequences.
Talking about specific development of Igbos btw 1999-2015 is to talk about the human capital development, the financial prosperity and most of all being treated fairly and equitably by the govts from 1999-2015. I know you see development as building of flyover but that's a narrow perspective

Well millions of Igbos that are stuck in the east are still wallowing in wants, if we're to talk about financial prosperity. Again what specific gains did igbonation as an entity while pdp was in power. Being financially proselrous isnt necessary a govt role.

Burstit:
You are working for ur money, abi? one day na ur mama go be victim.

Let's say he's indeed working for his money shamelessly, but really are those killed in Oyingbo not human beings too? Isn't that a massacre too?

DMerciful:
Dont be emotional, migration of Igbos to other regions started even before 1945. The whole of Nigeria is our terrain to the extent Amadu Bello was complaining of Igbo domination in the 50s.
You think we can be bounded by artificial boundaries created by illegitimate military govts?

Talking about being emotional, you're the guilty party. Again, what specific development has supporting pdp brought to you guys? Was it also the military that took up power in 1999-2015? BTW, the whole Nigeria isn't your terrain. Whoever you're is limited to your village. You're simply an economic almajiri outside of that enclave.

DMerciful:
You are looking at land we are looking at the economy that made millions of Igbos thrive successfully all over Nigeria. 50% of Igbos leave outside SE so general progress favors Igbos.PDP did well for Igbos

Yeah, economy that functioned on corruption. And by the way if pdp had made SE a worthy place to reside and do business, would igbos be jumping up and down to do transact their businesses?

DMerciful:
Igbos are not voting against APC cos GEJ lost but because we are convinced Bubu is a monumental failure and we have been proven right. Remember Atiku was also in the APC and worked against GEJ too.

Stupid assertion. The ones you voted for before Buhari were they successes? Okay, Buhari is a monumental failure, accepted - but when last really was Nigeria a place worthy of note? What feasible progress did pdp's 16 years in power brought to Igboland? Aside the few igbo men that were enriched through corruption and nepotistic appointments, is igbo land not the worst region in terms of federal presence? You guys are simply slaves to the pdp agenda, and sadly just within 7 years of being out of power, you guys want everything to scatter. Thankfully, you guys are just significant with online noisemaking, no one takes you guys serious in crucial matters.

Coldie:
For ipob mind I be there enemy.

Igbo presidency has the ability to address a lot of issues.

Igbo Presidency is needed so that the SE would develop our needed infrastructure that will as a result bring back our people scattered all over Nigeria that Nigerians keep complaining about especially Lagos people to go back to our region.

80% of federal roads in the SE is very bad.

Not just federal road federal infrastructures in the SE, I have been to federal unis in other regions but when I visited those in SE they always look smhw.

Igbo presidency can address all these

So Nigerians should support Igbo presidency primarily because of these? Don't worry yourself, Atichukwu is coming in 2023 to do those things on your behalf. Even an igala man has better chance at presidency than an igbo man. Such is the level of hate you guys have attracted to yourselves as a result of being too mouthed, intolerant to others and aggressive.

amakadlite:
so the is your plan to kidnap Igbo women and wife them. infact, we are looking into this matter as a matter of urgency.

What's this one saying now? Kidnap who? Only weak men kidnap btw.

The album in all honesty would compete with MIL for the worst album of the year.

Nonetheless, The Best was really top-notch.

misano:
WATCH THE ELECTION PLAY OUT. THE FORCES THAT CRIPPLED OSHIOMOLE WILL CRIPPLE TINUBU.

They forces are minions when it comes to political strategy. APC's only hope of survival lies in how it handles the caucus with the largest ego. PMB's cabal understood that on time, and hence had to retrace their steps prior to the 2019 elections.

misano:
That's the point, the party & the people in it was what made Buhari popular. Tinubu has no alignment in SS & SE. His alignment in NE is crumbling because of El' Rufai. Some APC members in the North are going to kill his game.

Everybody in the party is there for his or her interest.

Who told you this? El-rufai has no structure anywhere beyond his village. Is El-rufai even as strong as Ganduje save the corruption allegations? Almost all the top guns in the north are Tinubu's men. You necessarily don't have to agree - but I have my facts cos I relate with those that are in the know. I repeat Tinubu's only major Achille's hill is his being Muslim. Despite that, the ticket is still his to lose. He will most likely push Osibanjo forward.

misano:
Every geopolitical zone is rooting for her own tribesman. SS man is not popular in the SE. A SS is not popular in SW. A NC man is not popular in SW. It all depends on the parties. I have been predicting election since 2007, even states elections I have never been wrong. I doubt if I will fail this time.

Oga, Buhari wasn't popular outside the northern region, but his alliance with Tinubu got him the presidency. The same alliance will get Tinubu or anyone he annoints the presidency. It's all about structure and alignment. SE isn't getting the presidency yet because they are yet to learn the basic tenet of political alignment.

misano:
It's not the person, it is the party. APC is seen as a demonic party in the SS. If the APC fail to pick a candidate from SE they will completely be 4gotten in SS & SE. I don't want APC to pick a SE candidate but that is the only string holding them in SS & SE.

SS & SE can vote a Northerner if the person comes from PDP. The politics in 2023 will be very tough for the APC. Tinubu killed his political game when he supported Buhari, just as SS people loved, but now hate Oshiomole because of Buhari. That's how the SE & SS now hate Rochas, Amaechi, Akpabio & now Umahi. This is party politics at play.

I'm just discussing oh. We can just talk neutrally & learn.

It's you that doesn't understand politics really. Politics is all about structure. The next president will be the person with the most widespread structure and finances to ginger the structure. SS/SE votes are almost negligible in the scheme of things. NW/SW/NC/NE permutations are the major deal, since SE/SS have always gone to PDP. Again, ask yourself if there's any active politician with Tinubu's kind of structure nationwide, aside Buhari.

misano:
You are joking. Firstly I'm not Igbo, I'm from south-south. Take it for a fact, Tinubu & Osinbanjo are not popular outside SW. You shall see it for yourself in 2023.

Okay, which SS politician dead or alive is half as popular as Tinubu?

Or better still which living/active politician in Nigeria outside Buhari is as popular as Tinubu? Just mention one.

Powerfly:
Remove Cross River and replace with Osun

How many times has Osun state been in the news for these kinda incidence this year? May be you should help us with the links.
RIP to the dead.

misano:
He should be a leader of SW. If he tries to take power in Nigeria come 2023 he will fail. That guy is not popular outside SW.

Which igbo man is as half as popular as Tinubu? Maybe Ojukwu sha - and that one isnt popularity but notoriety.

Aside Buhari, Tinubu is the most popular active Nigerian politician today. Of course, I don't support his contesting - PYO should ideally be the next in line.

Luckydubby7:
Non of them there will smell the office of president come 2023.

Have you ever made a positive forecast in your life? Where's GEJ, and Atiku? Let those that really matter give their opinions first, then maybe if there's chance you can back them up with whatever jargon you've to say in the name of opinion.

blowjohn:
But why are nigerians like this?
Why the hate for this man?
I mean, u guys have not been able to vote any credible candidate from grassroots to presidency since independence.
But u have the fish brain to point out joe Biden as a better candidate.
Is that not crazy?
From senators , to house of representatives to governors to presidents all of u talking trash about trump have made the wrong votes all ur lives but here u are this commenting on american politics!
Wetin una sabi?

Which kind of nonsense question is this? Trump has the right to hate Nigerians and Africans, but Nigerians don't have the right to hate him in return abi? Stop this your hypocritical sermon and join the mf sore loser to accept defeat.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
If you have a better idea let us know I have given you my own idea. But please don't give me a idea that the current people which have failed this country which have destroyed the country then you want them to lead the country again. You cannot have people which are destroying the nation and expect them to rebuild the nation it is not possible. Tell me your solution because I like new ideas I do not like to recycle the same garbage in and out from all the states in the country now.

Anybody with fresh ideas let me know.
There was a political party which I was supporting but now I am not really sure about their motives AAC

The truth is the current system doesn't allow for "fresh candidate" oustide the current Bloc of politicians. Moroever, the system itself breeds mediocrity and allows only the worst of Nigerians to get to power. And please if you think many of those social media activists are better than the current crop of politicians, then you're on a long thing. The average Nigerian is greedy, self-centered and hypocritical. Many of the so called social commentators are bad husbands, irresponsible husbands and greedy employers. You only need to look around you to understand why the Nation is as bad as it's. Politics is dirty, and with the kind of personality the average Nigerian has, it would take a total overhaul of our belief and political systems for Nigeria to witness a real change. I'm not asking you not to look forward to a New Nigeria though, but really you're better off putting your efforts into more realistic goals. Shalom.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
Please let's leave tribalism out of all of this.
I am from the South West but tribalism is not going to solve a problem here. Let's talk how we can move the country forward for all of Nigeria. Do you think went to limbo get in power he will change anything in Nigeria not really. You cannot expect for the top of the tree to be good when the roots are rotten. Leadership has never been the problem in this country. But when we vote for the leaders what will they do, we cannot keep on doing things the same way and want a different result this is why I have said right now from the current political stock from all the parties we do not have a clear leader to take Nigeria forward. What we need to do is to go to the grassroots and train leaders up. Look at South Africa Jacob Zuma was trained for six months on how to lead the country. Thabo mbeki was trained for one year before coming president on how to lead the country. Now in our situation with put failures in front and blame the Citizens that they are not uplifting the country

You're not in tune with the reality. When you wake up from your slumber and understand that politics isn't GNS or Civics, you would understand why your theory isnt feasible.

AlexBells:
Building an Empire never comes easy it comes with a price, yes we lost men, honourable men and women, God bless their souls but the empire grew now it spread to Lagos, our heros labour not in vain, The Modern Igbo empire, this is Igbo Renaissance

Ojukwu believed and said more than this. You guys couldn't even conquer Oyingbo abi na Obigbo. It's not worthwhile teaching you basics sef, only a foolish tribe would incur so much loss in a war and still be treading in the same path that started the war in the first place. I guess the problem is genetic after all.