₦airaland Forum

Charmingrascal:
I repeat many were killed at Lekki and as you said nothing has happened.

The second wave of this protest will not be like the first, it will shock the World, even politicians will be hiding.

Mark this day!

Weren't people killed in Oyingbo too? Or does that not deserve the same level of attention? I've not seen you spoken out on that too. That's double standard.

And if you understand basic rules of social engagement, you will understand that it is very unlikely for the same level of interest that was achieved in the first round of protests in October to be achieved any time soon.

BastardWike:
You're too ethnocentric-minded to reason independently without bias. I know your type and it will be totally useless trying to make you reason objectively because your ethnocentrism will always override common sense.

Good bye!

Lmao. Good riddance

Charmingrascal:
Any brutality against peaceful protesters will result in full blown anarchy that will consume even those who you least expect.

What has happened since the Oyingbo and lekki massacre? The problem with many of us is we expect too much of the country and in the process of not waking up to the reality, we lose our lives unjustly to a country that doesn't even care about our existence. Sadly, it's the family and loved ones of those who are unjustly killed that bear the brunt.

Anago55:
. Address where? why do you yorubas lie like this ?

Bunch of cowards

No problem. But kindly start the protests from the east this time around. Lagos is still battling to get back on its feet from the last time out. If you can crumble the already non-existent economy in your region, then everyone will start taking your igbo voices seriously.

Igbochief001:
Firstly talking like zoning is based on party perfomance is stupidity , ...has south performed well for apc that apc should zone the presidency to south ...that's using your logic

It's hypocrisy to want APC to zone presidency south even when north worked harder but don't want it zoned south east because they didn't perform well .....that's hypocrisy at the highest

PDP made obasanjo president even when he lost this base ...apc can make a. Igbo man president without igbo support

North didn't work harder Oga. South West politics was the decisive factor in getting Buhari in. He needed a winning structure in the south, and south west gave him that. Why didn't he win prior to his alliance with South West? Again, if SW doesn't get the party's ticket - NE will most likely do. You guys should fight for pdp's ticket. What are you scared of?

Your OBJ argument is wack. Democracy was barely 8 months when pdp was formed. And I'm not sure yoruba's hatred for pdp then was as pronounced for igbos' hatred for apc since 2014.

BastardWike:
The problem with you type is that you know next to nothing about politics but instead of you to listen and gain knowledge, you will talking trash based on emotions and wishful thinking. I don't even know where to start in educating you because you're very far gone in ignorance.

I will leave you with these few points to note:
1. In the grand scheme of things, there is really no difference between PDP and APC, those politicians are all friends and they visit each other. APC will not hand over to a Southerner if they know PDP is going to field a Northerner, except the North wants to grab power back. Northern leaders will equally influence their people in PDP to ensure that only a Southerner emerges in PDP and the cabals in Buhari's government will go the extra mile to make sure of that.

2. Tinubu's strength starts from Lagos and ends in Osun. Tinubu can and will be silenced with ease. Why do you think he has kept quiet despite all the ill-treatments they've been meting out on him?

3. The state of a candidate does not matter when it comes to selection of candidates during primaries. Nigeria has 36 states and the FCT, so even if your state has 44 LGAs like Kano, it won't make any significant difference. Umahi may or may not clinch APC ticket but there are other Igbos in APC that would. SW can't play any spoiler. Even if the SW decides to vote for PDP or any other party, it won't make much difference against the 5 other regions. You guys voted for Olu Falae in 1999 but other Nigerians voted for Obasanjo and he won.
APC has two states in the SE and PDP has two, with sentiments against PDP at an all time high in the SE yet you feel Igbos will just vote PDP?

LOL, you know so much yet your tribe hasn't produced even a VP since 1999. Like I said, keep swimming in the river of self-ignorance. The fact that Tinubu's influence starts in Lagos and ends in Osun makes him a force to reckon with. Tell us one igbo politician that has same level of clout and influence even across the igbo region. Outside Buhari, Tinubu is the only politician that commands a wide faithful following. Igbos are pdp faithfuls, I don't expect you to agree with that. You can ask Jonathan for expo though.


In the scale of political discourse, it's NW/SW/NE that matters in Nigeria. So if apc picks an igbo man, SW can easily play the spoiler because an average hausa man would always have a level of distrust towards an igbo man given the politics that played out in the first republic. Moroever, the level of hates igbos have dished out towards fulanis since Buhari came into power makes an igbo presidency an utopia at best. SE will always be used to make up the number - how many una even be? Hausas and yorubas have higher numbers and are by far more organized than your tribe scattered all around. You can argue as you want - but the 5 percenter talk won't go away in a jiffy.

Igbochief001:
Two of the 4 party that formed apc were lead by igbo ...onu of anpp and Roachas of apga , if u add ameachi if PDP that's 3 of 5 so what's your point

Apc is hated in igbo land yet rochas won governorship with it , apc won imo senatorial sits ? Apc won abia senator sit ?

Bros your points hold absolutely no water say something

At least Igbos have given apc 100 times more what Yorubas have PDP in 1999 yet obasanjo won the ticket

Performance has nothing to do with zoning at all

Of not south west won't even be talking when it comes to perfomance in APC

What did onu and Rochas joining apc achiev for apc? Their influence didn't extend beyond the 5% they gave the party in the national polls. They are light-weight in national politics. Which politician is hated as much as Rochas in SE? Or is he no longer efulefu, onye-hausa? The fact is apc, despite federal mights, have for years been hated in SEAST, and that's visible in most of the election results. Taking a few disjointed results where the party won is silly - everyone knows the average igbo man hates apc. Or where do you think the five percenter talk came from?

SW isn't even against an Amaechi's presidency, but in reality he will be taking the SS slot rather than the SE slot. Moroever given a pdp igbo candidate vs an apc igbo igbo candidate - who in honesty do you think would win across the SEastern states?

Coldie:
Ok Mr man come and tell us abt the politics that played out in the first republic and how igbos became greedy please tell us?

Cause last time I checked yorubas were the first people to start advocating for southern division aka ethnic/tribal politics.

Tell us how igbos became greedy in the first republic

LOL. You obviously don't even have a proper grasp of the political history of Nigeria. It's early Monday - I don't suffer fool gladly.

Igbochief001:
So u mean the Igbos in APC are fools and don't matter ?

What about north east that have APC everything

You Yorubas are nothing but greedy and come 2023 you would expose yourselves for Nigerians to see

How many igbos are in the apc? Can you please mention 10 notable igbos who took part in the formation of the apc? And after then, tell us what impacts they brought leading to the 2015 elections? I've never seen a political party hated as much as igbos hate apc. It is senseless and foolish to expect the same party to solve the igbo presidency drama.

Coldie:
Southerner's re very greedy, that's y d south is deeply divided.

In the north any northerner they want to become president they unilaterally make a decision and everyone supports him but in the south greed is disturbing everybody.

What are yorubas looking for in presidency.

U want a situation where in 23years u have produced president 8years and vp 8years.

Then by 2023 u want to still produce presidency again. Is that not greed. Tomorrow u will be hearing igbos are greedy, northerner's are power hungry bla bla bla.

If the yorubas were a majority like the north there would be nothing like zoning they would rule till eternity till war breaks out

You're a poor student of history. Yorubas greed is still learning from Igbos' greed. The politics that played out in the first republic is a testament to that fact. You guys hate apc, why on earth should the party give you its ticket? Will an igbo man choose apc over pdp in an election?

Igbochief001:
That's the truth ... nothing nlikr north or south but 6 geopolitical zones ...u Yorubas are not smarter than everyone

What's the point of zoning when one zone keeps getting it ?

Was Jonathan a Swesterner? And what do you mean by keep getting it? Is a yoruba man contesting for the pdp ticket or is pdp not a political orce to reckon with again? What we're asking for is simple. Let each region chop from where they reap. You guys hatred towards apc is legendary and the bulk of the hate towards yorubas is based on the supposed support of the party by the yorubas. So why on earth would you want the Yorubas to support you in getting the same party 's (you've labeled several names) presidential ticket? Your rights should be protected under pdp because your region has been a fervent loyalist to the party. If a yoruba man doesn't get the apc ticket, then the party should go to NEast since they have equally been loyal to apc. Pdp's ticket should ideally go to an igbo man, only - then leave Nigerians to choose who they prefer as their leader.

Fahdiga1:
It is the turn of the Igbos to produce the president or everyone goes their separate ways

Igbos don't have the might to disband the country. All these empty threats won't even raise a finger. Same way you can't force others to love you is the same way you can't force others to choose you as their leader because you're supposedly marginalized.

dazzlingd:
You no get sense and u no fit...
You think I am as local as your unexposed ass..
Go international and see that a good number of them have long abandoned religion and superstitions unlike here
U dont have comprehension, from what I said, it is clear I did not say there are no whites with low IQ but I made it clear that at least 60% of them are smart while here, less than 10% is smart...

Dumbass like you forming international. International my foot. From your comments, it's obvious you're no more than the typical street urchin who always bully others into submissions even in the face of superior arguments. Ode

juininho:
I hate both parties. I detest them both. I am Yoruba and I totally hate Tinubu. Buhari is not someone I like mentioning because I feel superior to that man. The reality of life has made him successful in earthly terms. Yet he is not truly a man any man Should want to be like. He possesses neither the philosophy or the sense of a true man. Buhari is nothing. I don't stoop low to address him. Tinubu on the other hand is an example of a very greedy man. A sign of a sick and unhealthy brain. His penchant for amassing wealth by hook or crook when he can only be in a car at once and wear one cloth at ones baffles me. I will refer him to a psychiatrist if I ever get a chance. There's a sickness for people like him

Rants. If politics is such an easy thing, go join and make the desired changes. Everyone is better than everyone in theory. While in reality, you may even be worse off than those you're maligning. Your hypocritical type is the major problem Nigeria has, not those "greedy and selfish" politicians.

dazzlingd:
Out of 10 black africans, you may be lucky to see 1 who has critical thinking abilities and won't beleive everything they hear without proper scrutiny.
In developed countries, u should find 6 out of 10.

That's why we are backward and non achievers and that's why those countries are developed...

We need more people who can think in this country....

Inferiority complex that's what is worrying you. And you most likely haven't even stepped into an airport before. Go to quora and read similar experiences from the so-called "superior humans." Shame on you.

Guestlander:
The stories are completely not true and I stand by that statement.
There's absolutely nothing novel about these stories. They have been told for thousands of years in different ways in different cultures. What exactly are the new ideas you want me to gain from them other than showing me the stories are true in the first place?
This is like telling me I should accept fairies as real because someone said so.
Don't you have your own thinking faculties?

Who asked you to accept or believe? You're overrating your importance Oga. There are thousands of readers on the thread, and no one is mandated to believe the story. But it's overzealous to think your own knowledge supersedes other people's experiences. That's silly.

Guestlander:
This type of mentality is exactly what is keeping you down and preventing you from catching up with the rest of humanity. What exactly is atheism got to do with what is being discussed here?
You mentioned schizophrenia. Yes, you need help if you are seeing things that are not there.
Dead people don't come back and if they do, then show us. Until you show us you have nothing to say.

But really don't you think it depicts of arrogance and stupidity to doubt other people's mysterious experiences? The fact that you do not believe something doesn't make it false. Learn to ignore rather than disputing other's experiences just for some God-forsaken reasons.

TrueNigerian300:
This and many more of illusions like this is the reason why Nigeria will remain poor. Just like the lie called blood money but ask anyone who has seen where head or blood turned to money - the answer is always i heard from so and so. Who has seen where blood turned money here?? Smh, in the 21st century where the world is competing in space, AI etc. China just hosted their flag in the moon. Is Africa cursed or what?? What is happening people With all the blood money we are yet to see a ritualist richer than Dangote. Nigeria is the poverty capital of the world.

Feeling too much knowledgeable sometimes is the worst ignorance. Such is the case with you.

BastardWike:
You're quite ignorant of local politics is played in Nigeria. It is actually the Northern cabals that have been influencing who emerges in national elections. The same way they gamed the system by sabotaging Alex Ekwueme who was the G34 leader that formed PDP to promote Obasanjo who was just released from prison to eat where he did not sow, is also how they're going to game Tinubu to promote Dave Umahi or any other Igbo man. If you're observant, you will notice that they have started the preliminary process already. They're about to discard the APC register Tinubu men compiled and compile a fresh one without his input. Also, they've eliminated most of Tinubu's henchmen in APC and top government offices and are also removing more of them. I can assure you that they're watching Tinubu too, one careless move by him and they will haunt him.

You're swimming in a self-imposed river of ignorance. Umahi would be used and dumped like Akpabio. By 2022, no one would even hear his name anymore because he simply doesn't have any structure outside his small ebonyi state. You can write today's date down. The only southern politician that has the clout and connection to fight those northern cabals back to back is Tinubu. They all understand this and that's the basis for the alleged gang-up. And peradventure they foolishly test their might and give Umahi the ticket (which won't even happen), then swest will be ready to play the spoiler game for apc. Moroever, pdp will easily win against an apc igbo candidate, even in SE. So rather than deceiving yourself and believing an hausa and Yoruba-Muslim party go hand its ticket to an igbo man, you're better off believing the world will expire before 2023.

Nchenches:
History of rotation of presidency is why you talk about a Southern Nigerian - Yoruba - to succeed PMB. Not because more Yoruba voted for APC than Igbo in presidential elections.

History influences today and the future.
History of political leadership of Nigeria influenced our acquiescing to two Yorubas taking the tickets of the two major political parties in 1999. That’s rotation of the presidency between north and south.


That same history is what you want to throw away because you believe Yoruba is entitled to presidency for the 2nd time before the Igbo.

You are a nobody as you want to drop history and speak authoritatively like APC Spokesman. Area Boys political calculator.

Igbos don't have stake in APC. Make Una drag PDP for una birthright. You only reap where you sow - that's Politics 101. Don't worry, Nigerians are willing to vote for you. But never in APC.

Nchenches:
Yoruba hated PDP to the bone and had ACN as Yoruba party when Nigeria agreed to two Yorubas to take the presidential ticket of the two other major political parties in 1999.

You are a poor student of history. Go and sleep.

PDP was how many years old in 1999? Our democracy was even still in kindergarten as at then. The same democracy has matured now, and can't be gamed to fit the whims and caprices of poor political players like igbos. If you guys want the presidency so bad, then hold pdp in the scrotum - since that's the only party that is close to the heart of your region. Apc won't give its party ticket to an igbo man. You can stake your bet if you doubt this.

Nchenches:
In bold shows you are poorly educated. APC is yet to give its ticket to north central.

The hype about APC ticket in 2023 is because of Nigeria’s election rigging culture where the ruling party rigs to retain the presidency. GEJ literally abdicated the throne out of fear for his life after Obama told Nigerians before the 2015 presidential election to look forward to a new chapter.
What guarantees do you have that north will vote a Yoruba presidential candidate of APC? North distrusts Yoruba Area boys politics.

You're a mumu obviously who obviously has issues with basic grammar. Is it the igbos that killed Western and Northern region leaders in the first republic just to hold on to power that's trusted? No one trusts igbos - and it will likely remain so given the level of hate/superiority complex an average igbo man has in him.

And since you're hellbent on amplifying your ignorant political knowledge, let me sound this to you as a final response - APC is hated by more than 90% of Igbos. It is unjust to give the same region that hate the party so much the party's ticket as against the region that risked everything to get the party to power. It won't happen and will never happen. Igbos deserve the presidency as a major tribe but that should and will come under PDP. Apc's party ticket is between SW/NE. You can write today's date down.

delzbaba:
This is the biggest fraud i have ever seen,all Nigerians are the same both young and old alike.

You just dey know?

Nchenches:
Fulani shall also ask you who and who in APC agreed with you about rotation of the presidency between north and south?


Fashola has kicked off the debate on agreement over rotation of presidency..


People like you are deepening the debate because you don’t see any Igbo as qualified to preside over Nigeria; you don’t see that rotation of the presidency between north and south is only way to keep peace for development in Nigeria.

Please tell us the truth - how popular is apc in Igboland?

Aside that, a pdp igbo candidate vs an apc igbo candidate, who do you think will triumph?

Apc is even much saner to give its ticket to a North Central candidate than risk handing the same ticket to an igbo man.. It's a basic knowledge for any rational person who understands national politics.

Orjioorji:
Yoruba newspaper spreading hate in Igbo land forgetting that Amatokun is a terrorist organization

Hahahaa. Na yoruba newspaper force them into confessing they are ipob terrorists? Does flat head make the brain flat?

Nchenches:
.. and what made you think that Ekwueme who formed PDP with others when Obasanjo was in Abacha’s Gulag waiting for the hangman, could have defeated Ekwueme, if not the agreement that the SW would get the presidency through the agreement to rotate the presidency between north and south? That was after Shagari, Buhari, IBB, Abacha and Abubakar - all from north had steered Nigeria all the years.

Oga show us the agreement and stop wallowing in self-inflicted shamelessness. If SW and SE contest a million times, everyone knows what the result would always be. That was simply what played out in 1999. Ekwueme being an igbo man was well rejected outside his region's five states. Don't twist the rhetoric to suit your inordinate 2023 ambition.

bigfish3k:
So you people are using power well now

If so why are we still a shithole.
Hmnm. SW people and demarketing of the igbos. I fear una

So we should trust you SW people that sold Bakassi or this present government that sold us to China, damaged economy and increased insecurity

If you don't know the political lifting of the igbos in Nigeria is directly proportional to the lifting of Nigeria in all spheres.

You people can keep deceiving yourselves. Buratai has already told you that unless the igbos take over your suffering will last for another 20 years

LOL. Ode. I guess SE is a heavenly region already with well-developed and properly managed states so much that the people are living the best of life outside their home states

Nchenches:
What entitles the SW to hold the presidency twice before the SE?

Because Jagaband helped PMB to win in 2015?

In 2023, it needs to be SE in APC ticket and in PDP ticket, as we all agreed for the SW in 1999.

Who and who agreed for the SW in 1999? Was Ekwueme who got 21% of votes (mostly from SE) in the primary election from abeokuta?

Seun:
If the president’s tribe matters, which it should not, I think it would clearly be the turn of the an Igbo or other south-eastern person to hold the position in 2023. The north would have held power for 11 years, and the south west for 8 years. If we group GEJ with the South East, it would still be their turn since he ruled for only 5 years.

If we can get a very good Igbo president in 2023, their yearning for separation will gradually fade away.

If your knowledge of history is really strong, I doubt you would say this. Igbos' misuse of power in the first republic was the onset of the very problem Nigeria is still battling with. It's hard for the other major tribes to trust that same tribe with power.

greymiles:
After you should say there are no igbos or Igboland in South south. This is a royal son telling you he’s Igbo
But yorubas will come and tell you he’s not Igbo now, they don’t know all these ijaw, bini, efik and co are just splinter groups from the Igbo tribe

Igbo Amaka

Your anger should be directed at those tribes. Because it's actually them that do not want to be linked to igbo in anyway. Wetin concern Yoruba with that?

Dovegrey:
Ordinary correct english you can't speak shame on you

Im still much better than you would ever dream of being grammar-wise.

Dovegrey:
Ewedu who need your vote self

Ewedu votes trumps all your villages votes by two actually. Five-percenter