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cap28:
How does the posting of pictures of blacks and whites in nightclubs prove that blacks own or control any of south africa's wealth?  why are you such a dullard?

Oh so its switched to "blacks controlling wealth" now, thought you said blacks and whites were living ever so far away from each other and didn't enjoy 'the good life' together. Those black people in the club must be faking it.

You can bob and weave in and out of all your previous statements all you want but this subject matter is not your forte. Stick to Ghadaffi and IMF structural adjustment programmes youtube videos will ya

cap28:
I know you ran away to south africa to try and make a living in order to escape the structural adjustment programmes in nigeria but try and show a little bit of dignity.  The blacks over there dont want you there and the whites certainly dont. Stop all of this bootlicking and face up to the truth for once in your life.  South africa is a segregated country which is still not where it needs to be in terms of black empowerment - but this is too much for thickos like you to understand.

hahah, funny RSA used to think I lived in SA too just cause I know alot about the country. Sorry you are trapped in the UK. All my money is made in the good old West African country called Nigeria.

get on a plane and travel al little bit will ya, 400 square foot flats can drive a poor bastard runaway like you insane.

cap28:
In order to be racist you have to be able to exercise power in such a way that it adversely affects the economic well being of another group of people.

Black people in general do not have that kind of power - not yet but we will if we can stop begging, pleading and kow towing to the white supremacist structure.

I could've sworn I have read that same exact quote in some black nationalist book somewhere. you should credit original thought seeing that you aspouse to be a true "intellectual"

cap28:
How many whites in south africa socialise with black south africans?

You must know since you left your 400 square foot flat on tour of Africa

cap28:
How many whites live in black neighbourhoods in south africa?

What kind of s.t.u.p.i.d. question is that?

cap28:
HOw many whites chose to send their children to schools in predominantly black neighbourhoods?

ehhhh?

cap28:
The fact that you as a black south african can't even feel comfortable in certain parts of your own  country further proves that you have been excluded from your own country, the fact that you no longer have to carry passes does not change the fact that whites don't want you in their neighbourhoods, schools, offices or shopping malls.  Thats why they have created enclaves like cape town for themselves to make it clear to the blacks that they are not welcome in certain parts of the country.

Why must Zolzolz have to confine herself to another part of her own country - doesnt that prove that despite the so called demise of aparthied you are still living under a segregated system?

Despite things changing they have remained the same as the whites are still calling the shots and keeping you out of areas that they have set aside for themselves.

Paniki, remember you are talking to someone who gets all his info from you tube videos and doesn't have enough money to leave his 400 squre foot flat in the center of Lewisham cause the British govt is taxing 40% of his income.

He's a cyber warrior.

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cap28:
Morpheus/Paniki what is the point in posting pictures of whites socialising with whites in predominantly white parts of south africa? You are reinforcing what we already knew about south africa -that blacks and whites live separate and vastly unequal lives just like blacks in Jim Crow America did in the 1950s.

No matter how much you try to convince yourselves to the contrary white south africans do not want to share south africa with you, they are doing everything humanly possible to continue to live as far away from you as possible.

Take a look at the pictures you posted- how many of them show blacks enjoying the good life along with whites in your so called fake rainbow nation?

You are trying too hard

**shaking my head in disbelief*

paniki:
[size=16pt]Morpheus has posted nice pictures that reflect the true South Africa unlike what Zolzlolz is used to in Cape Town. All she sees is white, white, white and white I would also get sick of them.[/size]

Down town Cape town got a lot of Xhosa people. Been to Muzinberg, Gugulethu township, mannenburg and some refugee shanty towns. The contrast is remarkable. Its like you are in two different parts of the world.

cap28:
You are beyond clueless - why would the whites be scared when the black south african elite have been bought and paid to do the bidding of the powerful banking and mining interests in that country?

Zuma does as he is told by his white masters that is why he voted to impose a no fly zone over libya (along with lapdogs nigeria and gabon).

What a betrayal eh! even after the financial assistance that was rendered to the ANC by Qadaffi Zuma still went ahead to stab Qadaffi in the back - that shoudl tell you that he is nothing more than a puppet of the former apartheid power structure and the western corporate interests.

The black south africans are in the majority but they dont control the south african military - this is still very much under the control of the whites.  The whites can also call upon their european NATO brothers when the going gets tough so why would they be scared?

They even have nuclear capabilities thanks to the help they received from Israel in the 80s.

Stop displaying your ignorance on here.

I swear if we run a word search for libya, Ghadaffi, IMF, NATO and corporate criminals your name would pop up right next to it. You really need to go see a doctor if you've stopped taking your pills

Keep on with the monologue. No one is listening!

Hoards of white people emigrating, they can't take it anymore. All 5 million of them are under siege by black savages!!. Get out while you can!. The country is  about to go down in flames!!!!

Notice how scared the white people are. Oh SOUTH AFRICA. Botha, bring back the apatheid days!

Behold close to 20 years later. The "terrorist" Nelson Mandela's South Africa in ruins and rubble. Run "white people" Run!!!!

Sui Generi:
“It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear STUUPID than to open it and remove all doubt.” -- Mark Twain

So as a prelude whites must be made to realise that they are only human, not superior. Same with Blacks. They must be made to realise that they are also human, not inferior.

Bantu Steve Biko

cap28:


this is the same problem i've been having with him - Morpheus please take note.

You still here buddy. No more "libya", "Ghadaffi", "IMF", "Goldman sachs" audience.

You must be really bored,  no one paying attention to your dribble?

corporal:
Morf you are so thick you never get the point, it doesnt matter how well its written. [b]Its not that they are coming here and doing criminal things its the fact that they are coming here at all.[/b]If you need to run away from your own country and apply for refugee status here then clearly there is a problem in your own, wake up and admit it you ignoramus. Millions running to South Africa the home of the white man you hate, I would never run to anywhere in Africa because its all stuffed.
Go home

Don't forget the dutch, French hugenots, Jews, portuguese, German and British "settlers" oh sorry "immigrants". Wonder what they were running away from, Hmmmm??

Ignoramus is as Ignoramus does.

Learn to think harder.

corporal:
IF your countries are so good then why the bleep do we have this:::::::
There are many reasons for this. If South Africa is a magnet for African refugees, it is also a magnet for economic migrants, traders and migrant workers, as well as drug dealers, car thieves, petty criminals looking for easy pickings, and serious gangsters. After 1994 the fences essentially went down. Today, the number of undocumented migrants in South Africa is anybody’s guess. Estimates of the number of migrants from other parts of Africa range from under one million to over 10 million. Given the difficulty of gaining even temporary protection in South Africa, one has to ask if all refugees are seeking asylum. In all likelihood, there are probably many people who are refugees but never seek to formalise their status. Even so, the number of refugees in the countries to the north is many times more.

The Institute for Security Studies in South Africa reported recently that over 200 foreign crime networks are operating in South Africa, mainly by Nigerian, Chinese, Russian and Pakistani gangs. Activities include fraud, car theft, prostitution, mobile phone theft and rebirthing, money laundering, smuggling ivory, abalone, arms, gold, diamonds and drugs, as well as trafficking in humans and human organs. The organized crime problem in South Africa, according to the FBI and CIA, is only marginally less serious than in Colombia or Russia, and they estimated in December 2000 that it was costing South Africa US$23bn a year.

Again you don't make very sound arguements. What is your point?


Name one western country that doesn't have the above mentioned syndicates, a majority of whom are "white'  "legal' "Corporate" criminals

Poor White Saffa, don't let yourself run mad thinking about the "glorious" apatheid days!

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zolzlolz:
corporal could always pull a Brandon "no skills" Huntley and apply for refugee status in a Western country of his choice.

Yep canada will let practically anyone in for any reason. They don't hve enough people to grow their economy. He was smart to pick that country.


“Huntley paints a picture of white South Africans as a victimised minority, persecuted by a vengeful and racially vindictive black majority,” they wrote.

“This is deeply insulting to the great majority of black South Africans who have embraced reconciliation and also to those many white South Africans who value the opportunity to participate in building the non-racial, non-sexist society envisioned by our constitution.”

The group, which includes Professor Jonathan Jansen, the vice-chancellor of the University of Free State, and political commentator Adam Habib, added that the “outrageously distorted representation of contemporary South Africa does not square with the realities in our country”.

Huntley — a well-built martial arts fanatic and former lock in his school’s first rugby team — applied for refugee status, saying he had been attacked by black thugs who preyed on whites.

He claimed he had been robbed, and stabbed, seven times, but never bothered to report this to police.

Huntley also claimed his attackers called him a “white dog” and a “settler”.

His claim was met with scepticism in South Africa, with a senior police officer telling the Sunday Times: “We looked into it and couldn’t find any record of him having been a victim. It’s bizarre for someone to say he’s been a victim so many times and never report it.”

http://iluvsa..com/2009/09/brandon-huntley-dead-man-walking.html

corporal:
http://www.homecomingrevolution.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7236

I very much doubt you are anything close to someone with a scientific mind in attempting to "brain gain" yourself somewhere in Europe or Australia, so lets not go there

From the same website:


http://www.homecomingrevolution.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7217

zolzlolz:
Shame corporal aka rhodesia, you've been wishing the demise of South Africa for 17 years. It's not happening and it's left you so bitter. Your function is to steal oxygen and to engage in self pity based on false beliefs. Tis much easier than facing the truth. Your consistent denial has left you angry and bitter and is making life difficult for everyone. Did you read the Cape Times yesterday, sad creature? The expats that ran away are coming back. They have returned with their tails between their legs and are admitting that the 'grass isn't greener on the other side'. They left because of their irrational thoughts about SA like yours, but once they got there, they didn't find the heaven they, like you, expected in the West. Some advice from your own, "You can blame the government, the colour of your skin, or the gum that got stuck under your shoe, but if you can't change your attitude it is best you leave."

yep they coming back in droves. Guess them Australians and UK citizens weren't so welcoming after all.

Who says White people don't have tribalism.

Rhodesia:
he was a disgusting racist terrorist.

Oh hell! we done gone and opened the flood gates now,

corporal:
Morpheus if it hadn't been for us you would never have seen a car and would not be on this forum.

exactly my point Did you actually think about what I was alluding to about "not ever seeing a car".

corporal:
You hate white people but every year your country stands in a queue with the rest of Africa waiting for aid from the same white man,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hurry now or you will be at the back

I can categorically state that I do not hate White people. Hating someone cause of the color of their skin is "mental." However I do hate what white people 'especially' Apatheid White south Africans did to native peoples. That karma is on you.

Racism is a mental disease in my book.

corporal:
A few centuries ago they may have been practicing witchcraft, at least we had the brain to give it up, unlike the black people who continue to practice it even today,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,talk about backward,, still putting your bed on tins or bricks for fear of the Tokalosh.

What you just said doesn't make much sense does it. How much difference is there between believing in spirit worlds and sangomas and believing serpents actually talk to people. how strange?

corporal:
BTW neither of you has been able to show proof of one successful black nation anywhere in the world, are white people to blame for all of their failures??

Nope they aren't to blame but they would have done us a whole lot of favor if they hadn't shown up in the first place.

corporal:
I think not, personally I think you have no idea how to run a country

Tis that "white' priviledged status talking again.

corporal:
Paniki we didnt inherit anything you ignorant fool  we built it the same way we built the phone or computer you are using to have your misguided say. go beat a drum

Couple of centuries before that you were in the dark ages burning heathens, putting garlic on your front porch( to ward off vampires of course) and worshiping the great god Odin. How far you've come from your medieval ways. Or maybe not. Hmmmm

The so called words of a terrorist:

“During my lifetime I have dedicated myself to this struggle of the African people. I have fought against white domination, and I have fought against black domination. I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an ideal which I hope to live for and to achieve. But if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die.”
― Nelson Mandela

corporal:
YES Morpheus i understand, this is what Africans have done for Africa and why all the Nigerians are running to South Africa, which btw would have been no better off than your sorry country or any of the others had it not been for the white people.

http://world-poverty.org/povertyinafrica.aspx

Same ol "whiteman' saves the "blackman" story.

If I never saw a car my entire life, how would I know I missed riding in one?

Ponder on that one will ya!

cap28:
Ignoramus, why would i waste my time reading through your poorly constructed and grammatically incoherent garbage? Listen, I would rather look forward to the prospect of watching paint dry!

of course you wouldn't.

cap28:
Functional illiteracy and wanna be bigmanism is what is killing you - why dont you accept that you are a half baked wanna be intellectual?

oh, and by the way its gibberish not "jibberish! - functional illiterate.

I've often wondered why Nigerians that live in England often boast about their mastery of the 'english" language and in the same breath tell you how "un english" they are.  A symptom of linguistic imperialism, I presume. How ironic?

cap28:
ps - can you stop borrowing my phrases?
i've noticed they keep cropping up in your little "debates" - "don't flatter yourself" being one of many that you are now using to make yourself appear fluent in written and spoken english.

I guess you must have influenced my thoughts  in all the below posts as well. Its okay though, I understand, Its the paranoia setting in, symptoms include hallucinations and delusionary thinking


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-315929.192.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-304941.0.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-683786.0.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-315929.128.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-275903.32.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-330466.0.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-315339.32.html

cap28:
But is it more insulting than the verbal beat down you just received from corporal ?

I never thought i would live to see a domesticated and housetrained uncle tom having an argument with a racist on NL but there you have it.

The most amusing thing about your exchange with corporal is that you actually stole all the points that i constantly beat you down with and have now used them to try and attack corporal - Amazing!!!

Hahaha!.  I dare you to run a search on my threads since 07,  when you done come back and repeat that jibberish you stated above again.

Please don't flatter yourself. Its unbecoming of a black nationalist m.o.r.o.n!

TAKE YOUR PILLS YOU NEED THEM!

cap28:
paniki and morpheus i see you and whitey are getting on real fine

i bet you're regretting all those times you spent bending over backwards to defend him eh

sorry to break it to you guys, but whitey will never change his attitude towards blacks no matter how much you kow tow to him

Crap28

Please don't mistake nor compare my "thought processes' with your paranoid schizophrenia. Thats very insulting

corporal:
English speaking South African

Ebonics speaking Nigerian

corporal:
That would BE those Black Africans not them Africans you ignoramus. Show me 1 successful Black Nation. Go stand in a food queue

Ha ha!. A white dirty dutch speaking Afrikaaner trying to correct my english. How ironic?

Same ol "advanced" society arguement eh used to justify atrocities commited by your kind. Please spare me the dribble.


You have infected Black South Africans with an insatiable desire to continue to consume resources without thought of the overwhelming long term consequences to themselves or this planet.

You hoard technological know how then turn around and claim "africans" are too silly to learn anything. Right. Who you think you fooling.

You continue to perpetuate this "myth" of barbarians running around in bushes with spears to justify your "madness" when that is absolute falsehood.

You create pseudo racial sciences based on hierchies of skin color, brain sizes and all other amounts of warped scientific heresay agian to justy your thievery in Africa.

You have brought a warped version of the 'christian" faith to Aficans finding every social and scientific way to make "jesus" a european blond hair blue eyed man.


Please take "your" advancement away. I would trade 100 years of life from your "advanced" madness for 50 years of life without you guys on this planet. The Karma is on you!
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corporal:
@ Morpheus
Your people were in africa for 4000 years and still running round in skins. "based on pseudo sciences and mumbo jumbo about the ability of African people to progress." what pseudo science the evidence is all out there. Now go stand in a food queue and wait for the WHITE americans and europeans to come give you some.
61 African Countries most suffering huge disease, poverty, crime , war and corruption. I rest my case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

please don't feed me that  storm front propaganda BS. why didn't you leave us to our blissful ignorance and find some other european country to immigrate to. After stealing space on several continents you still have the audacity to open your dirty mouth about "running around in skins". Who told you to come here. I thought your racist propaganda says we were all seperated on different continents for a reason.

If your ancestors didn't come here we would still be in existence oblivious of your " greedy' ways. You think you did us a favor. Please you destroyed a way of life and a culture that would be fine without your intrusion. You should have left us to our miserable fate. That would have been much better.

The karma is on you,untill you pay retribution you will be forever in perpetual debt.

Like I said them black South Africans were exteremly lenient  with those truth and reconciliation trials which demostrates their forgiving spirits and their ability to move pass pure evil. you guys on the other hand just want to complain and sulk about your lost priviledged status.

^^^

My dear you are very much entitled to your opinion which is different from "truth".

Black South Africans are "angry" at the priviledge your people have long accorded yourselves based on pseudo sciences and mumbo jumbo about the ability of African people to progress.


Infact I am of the opinion that the least racist people on this planet are people of black African descent.

^^^^

You must be like 12 years old and probably don't understand how the word "fight" connotates more than just violent acts which is why you seem to think it doesn't apply to Martin luther's non violent struggle.

THe nazi inspired Afrikaans party of 1948 and the atrocities they committed have not even been punished  yet so I am  truly hoping that the karma you are praying for descends on your kind before it does the "criminals" you point to cause those Black South Africans were exteremly nice to afford such animals a truth and reconciliation pardon.

There is no easy walk to freedom anywhere, and many of us will have to pass through the valley of the shadow of death again and again before we reach the mountaintop of our desires.
NELSON MANDELA

Sui Generi:
Martin Luther King's methods makes him more Nobel.

The whole system of apatheid stripped the nobility of ordinary human beings to feel dignity. Therefore such struggle does not require that the victim be noble in his fight to emancipate himself and there does require an element of "by any means necessary" as a function of human survival that plays into such struggles against oppressive powers. Martin luther was not the only "fighter" during his time and was just one piece that made the civil rights era come to pass. You only like his style because it requires passive aggression technics which make you feel comfortable in your skin.

Sui Generi:
Nelson Mandela's legacy has created and left behind a violent society, with millions of illegal firearms on the streets and violent crime is everywhere in South Africa. All these killers are doing is following Nelson's example.

Although I was born in Northern Rhodesia, a British colony with no apartheid laws, I've lived in South Africa many years.

utter rubbish. Crime is a function of socio-economic situation. These so called crimes have been going on in SA long before you started complaning about them,  the difference now is there is no artificial priviledged "fence" to keep you away from it.

Sui Generi:
Most people don't know this, but there is much more black on black violence, than black on white violence in South Africa, xenophobia is rife today. Though xenophobia is ever present in other African countries, prior to Nelson Mandela's reign of terror xenophobia was ONLY present during the Shaka Zulu and Dingaan wars, today its back with force.

It matters not what people believe of Nelson Mandela and all other supposed "freedom fighters" (including today's warmongers), like all of us Nelson Mandela will pay for the karma that he's brought upon himself and others.

Again, Martin Luther King's methods makes him MUCH more Nobel.

Why don't you tellus about all the atrocites your secret service inflicted on innocent people as well as how shooting small kids protesting the fact that they don't want to be indoctirnated into becoming zombie "afrikaans' speaking pupils  is by any means noble.

You have a lot of audacity.

PS. ITS NOBLE NOT NOBEL!