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birdman:
Coo coo land? Coming from someone who thinks he is Morpheus? Lol.

Btw, to anyone who hasnt watched recent clips of Farrakhan, you should. He is definitely a more measured man that he was a decade ago. And he is nowhere near as militant as mainstream TV clips would have you believe he is.

You sure is right. I guess the NOI aint waiting for those space ships anymore to come fly them away to coo coo land or they aint still looking for the that lost tribe of Shabazz they came from. A real notch down from them crazy militant days.

See all the SAFFA's quick quick respond. If na una Africa brother die e no consine una.

^^^^

We'll revert to Trade by barter. We survived on it before. I am pretty sure we can do it again. Don't you?

birdman:
Morpheus, morpheus, morpheus,

You obviously do not understand the concept of RESPECT for a position. You dont have to agree with Farrakhan on his views or tactics, but you do have to respect that he commandeers a sizeable black following, making him a black leader of thought. Even MLK did not use uncouth language towards NOI, because he understood their authority, even if he disagreed with their means. You on the other hand, obviously have a long way to go. My advice to you: before you start spitting high-sounding arguments, learn the basics - like respect for those that come before you. This is an African (and universal) sign of wisdom, something you are obviously lacking by your own thread title.

Btw, to the dude who suggested the million man march accomplished nothing: Till today, there are black men, who still recount tales of that march, as their first taste of what true manhood and fatherhood was supposed to be like, as they rode in buses with older folk.Tens of thousands of young black men had a positive impact from that march.

You need to fly away to coo coo land bird man and stop telling me to respect the minds of black militant groups and groupees who have lost any sense of vision other than appeal to frustrations of young AA's who lack any sensible leaders. You fear his authority and rederick not his mind.  there's a difference

MandingoII:
poor morpheus.

sometimes i think morpheus delusional thinking believes white folks give a damn about his ugly fat black a.r.s.e.

they dont. they cannot stand you. history have shown how white people treat people of color. look at what america did to iraq. Bush created a lie to destroy their infrastructure and steal their oil. Now western capitalist are making money hands over fist rebuilding iraq's water system, electrical system, roads, buildings, gas lines, planting trees, cable system, internet, cell phone towers, food from american companies, etc. etc. CAPITALISM capitalise off its victims. This will happen to lybia and Syria.

These white muthafokers are out to take your countries s.h, it. and leave the people broke and begging.

Morpheus wants to be a tool used by the white man to impoverish his own people. He is a CHARLATAN, A FAKE A BRUHAHA. He is not to be trusted because his aim is Materalism!

Yet here I sit in amerikka watching all these bitter, depressed, scared, fat, mentally diseased and physically poised materially rich white folks daily. They are not living "happiness" they are running scared and worried about everthing. Yet as a BLACKMAN, I Feel at peace with self, and total contempt for Capitalism and greedy angry nasty white folks, who do not have any reason to be so blatantly selfish and obsessed with More.

F&*'k You morpheus, you a bum as.re african sellout and B!.tcha.ss nigga!

Same ol fear the traitor, weed out the boogey man tactic used on the minds of the massess by you and the likes of farrakhan. Really strong rederick that easily mobilizes the weak minded, not really teaching them to think for themselves.Not unusal and quite predictable. cause in your utopia people like me cannot exist otherwise the control your kind seek will not be achievable. poor Malcom learned that the hard way didn't he now?

I can easily exit your societie's lust for the material and the drive to satisfy insatiable desires. You on the other hand my dear boy are mentally and physically trapped within its ever powerful grasp, choking you till it squeezes the senses out of you and leaves you stack raving mad abandoned in an asylum somewhere drulling over an overdose of psych meds? Stop lying to yourself. You can't bare the thought of being seprated from your air conditioned Chicken wing eating 40 ounce drinking azz.

MORPHEUS SAYS "FREE YOUR MIND!"

That monkey head Malema needs to go back to school for training on CULTURAL SENSITIVITY. I'l do him some good

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=753524.msg9102744#msg9102744 date=1315442206]Morpheus,

You are a theorist, far removed from mundane realities to appreciate the inner struggles of men.

You speak from an idealist view. You should not judge Farrakhan or any man for that matter because the actions you judged are played out in real terms of timeliness and space. Farrakhan does not act in the abstract and neither are his speculations far from their targets.[/quote]@ negro Ntns

I rarely in my posts ever reveal much of my personal experiences but because you are practically the only one who has challenged me on the highest of intellectual levels I will let you know this much.

I have basked in this reality you beleive I am far removed from and bear witness to my life experiences that this reality has lead me to stand on the other side of men like Farrakhan and the "ideas" that they push. It is pretentious to act like  we understand the grandness and scale of this life we live and those who seek to disconnect the connections in the name of reality are no more closer connected to it than I am

Believe me my friend when I say the reality has been ever clear to me. The IDEAL is what matters the more because it DEALS with the HOPE AND BATTLE FOR THE FUTURE.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=753524.msg9101055#msg9101055 date=1315417169]Morpheus,

I read your response to NLT on the question of why your despise of Mr Farrakhan.

I want to caution that in the global struggle for Black resurgence there are many at the forefront who sacrifice self and family to act as a shield of protection against insulting disrespect and threat of surbordination by rival races and Mr Farrakhan is one of those sentries gurading the gateway for us. [/quote]I will credit him the above bolded, none the less a general who rallies his troops to war, in order to be successful, must do everything within his  POWER of reason to ensure that they are rallied in a consensus of an IDEOLOGY no matter how dangerously misleading it origins might be drawn from.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=753524.msg9101055#msg9101055 date=1315417169]Mode of expression come in diverse styles. There are those who find their expression and voice in purely logical order and others who do so using a philosophical approach and yet we have others who must project their physicality forcefully in order to represent. The more we reduce everyone in our race to a narrow and single style of expression, in this case "logical", then the less acceptable it is for original ideas to spring forth for fear of being labeled and denigrated by people like you.[/quote]Logic has proven the true master of the wits and of true mental transformation because it is concerned with the valid, physical, the seen and the known. It is a component necesary for philosophy.

Philosophical thought allows for the study of the abstract concept in formulating reason and rational.

Physical posturing in the guise of cognitive learning, however  a great appeal to the emotional and intellectually weak  as an expression of manhood, only serves but a short term  objective, giving the user a false sense of achievement and leaves him none the wiser , reveling in his own false sense of wisdom.

I have seen too many a young man's mind be destroyed by these warped philosophies in the name of black consciousness. These men who claim the "Alpha" positions in the pack claiming they are protectors of their own "kind". What kind is that? Men are born men. They possess the same virtues and vices in the same porportions as their nature allows them to possess. If any is given the opprotunity they will revel in the ones that satisfy their innate nature.

The act of civilization requires a consent to abandone the individual thought process and forge together for the greater collective. I get that. what  I don't accept is the blind loyalty. The willigness to truly believe that a philsophy or state of mind is absolute without compromise.  If Farrakhan is watching for "our" intersets, then who is watching Farrkhan. who is questioning his motives,  If blind loyalty finds him unquestionable and his cause noble, then he is a god to thesefoot soldiers who will do anyting to keep him unquestionable.

Malcolm understood this, Biko understood this and mandela understood this as well, which is why they will remain true black conscious leaders, transcending the confines of race . The rest are just copies of the originals

Where all men think alike we don't think very much_(parapharase Walter Lipman)

[quote author=deji.ariyo link=topic=753524.msg9096417#msg9096417 date=1315377817]Long Live Honourable Louis farrakhan, I know everyone wants a perfect human being and Louis Farrakhan is not perfect but he is a good man and met him so many occasions.
Jesus Christ and Mohammed were never perfect and so i dont look at the bad sides of Louis Farrakhan but his intentions.[/quote]And what are his intentions, to fight the good fight against the "boogey" man so you can find excuses in life for your tribulations.

stmarc32:
I beg to differ Morpheus, Freedom is a state of mind not something attained by assimilating to western ideologies, Capitalism(Greed) is one of them, the sooner you realize that the better because  it does not behoove any african country or its people to accept capitalism on its own without considering the socio-economic and political structure in place prior to the arrival of crackers.I'd be dammed to accept a model created and  imposed on africa by someone who had nothing but pillaging and looting in mind.

Right right, lets spend all our time fighting the white mans evil "Capitalist system" why not. Its his invention so it must be evil. He came and pillaged, stole and from our ancestors, yadda yadda yadda. While we are at it lets invent all sorts of other weird philosophies about ourselves, like how this evil inventor named Dr. Yacub created this white man with no conscience and now his sole mission is to subjugate the black man and wipe him off the face of the earth

or how black people are the original israelites who were foretold to be enslaved in in foreign lands by edomites and now must re discover themselves and break free or maybe how a brutal ethiopian dictator is the reincarnation of The Christ who was black and our sole mission is to smoke ganja and sing reggae songs all day and disengage from the whiteman's system cause its all a set up to have us working as modern day slaves or maybe how our societies have always been in equilibrium wiht nature and now this 'system" that has been introduced to us is destroying our true way of life of which we must expel and revert back  to our chosen way of life. Heard it all before. The world doesn't evolve round black people's problems . That my friend is mental slavery.

Capitalism, communism and socialism are nothing but abstracts that have been given meaning that really are masks for the perpetration of  human beings most darkest natures, that will continue to exist even after the demise of these systems. Capitalism is not greed, Greed is greed. it has existed before capitalism, it will continue to exist in any system that you choose to accept. You fight an unwinnable battle. See the bigger picture and you are step towards mastering True 'free thought"

Moprheus says : Revolutions brings you bck to a point in a circle. Evolution is a leap forward. FREE YOUR MIND!!

stmarc32:
@cap28 Morpehus is a lost brother caught up in the labyrinth of academia, he will come home soon but with time as much as i respect Louis Farrakhan he has made his mistakes with Malcom X and Khalid muhammed but no one's perfect the main thing here is dont blame the teacher or preacher, did u get the farking message.

My dear stmarc32, academia is but a small component necessary in discovering the freedom required to think outside of enclosed boxes created by men like farrakhan. Men create boundaries around themselves to help them make sense of the world so they don't go crazy or so they can manipulate it

To be lost in this madness is the true crime you wouldn't encourage any so called "black" man to engage in.

Morpheus says " Much like the matrix, Capitalism is a system. Within that system the rules can be bent, some of them can be broken. Eveything begins with choice"

FREE YOUR MIND!!

^^@Cap28

Oh yeah by the way speaking of balls, while you are on farrakhan's tell that old fart to move all AA's back to Africa and get the hell out that capitalist system he and his cronies are enjoying. In the name of black nationalism, he needs to get outta being behind enemy line and back home so we can offer him some real authentic egusi soup and pounded Yam

Stop trying to pull the South African to your extremist militant propaganda side. Biko evisioned a multiracial society in south africa, one which adopted a one man one vote majority rule. A man wise enough to understand that the system and not the color of any South africans skin was what was destroying the true creation of an all inclusive nation state.

keep yapping your mouth about your pseudo definitions of what those crazy books you read have defined "black nationalism", House negros, traitors, apologists  and Black liberation theology as. You will never win this war of the minds that you think you are waging because you lack the most key element that is required to win it. And no I will not tell you what it is. will give you a hint though, get of your kebab eating azz and go somewhere where you can be of use.

Ps you are not the first knuckle head militant ho-bo I have met neither will you be the last. Keep waiting for the fall of this boogey man named 'White imperialist capitalist rule'. Neither you nor Farrakhan will be any bit the catalysts that abring about its downfall. Why because your kind are part of the problem. Willing participants of the same system, you so despise.  Warped oppressed minds that conjure up all sorts of nonsense to decieve more people into thinking you have come to some epiphany and discovered the solution to black peoples political , economic and social problems ,ready to lead  them into some imagined utopia that will set you up as leaders of a new movement. Please go sell some young  fool that bullshit .

If you are any true learned student of history you will see that yours is a loosing battle and all you are doing is yapping your big mouth in your 400 sqaure foot aparment behind enemy lines. A place you will stay in, playing puppet politics crying about the sorrows of people you have never met and will probably never meet nor will you be able to change their lives Thats the real coward my dear boy.

We can do this dance forever. I am game

cap28:
Oh and by the way morpheus - F.CK you - Farrakhan is here to stay, he has many loyal followers and is a well respected black nationalist, intellectual and leader in the african american community - you on the other hand are

Thats as far as his gibberish will go, the AA community and maybe a few blind followers like yourself. True transformers of minds lie in people like Malcolm X, Biko and Mandela who are men who trascend their times and will continue to do so.

Mr Farrakhan will be a character in history books for you and my kids reference on the black extremist and islamic extremist section,his legacy will die when he does.

"Ps it would better serve you and us to go find out what you can do about the police brutality your people are suffering from everyday on the streets of Naija instead of trying to convince us of your loyalty to "black' people by singing praises of a fool who hasn't worked one day in his life yet is able to enjoy all the pleasures a developed nation offers its citizens.

I am sure you can fumble out some wild reason how these acts by police are the acts of a conspiracy boogey "whitemen' to keep your people under tyranny. Great black conscious movement fighter who lives in England.

@Cap28

Couldn't resist could you.

I am not really gonna go into jibba jabba's with you. we've done that quite well enough to know we don't stand on the same lines so stop trying to convince anyone of your version of the truth by accusations of John Kerry like "flip flops"

What you take from Biko is completely different from what I take away from him.  A true black nationalist and I stress NATIONALIST (i.e believing in a one nation, one people including Afrikaans people) is very different from a black manhood pumping, extremist fake religion, fake ideology forming, kill his own black brother, power seeking, down with the white man troglodyte.

I understand though it is quite easy to misconstrue "black extremism" propaganda as black nationalist movements.

What Biko spoke about in regards to black conciousness was a mental awakening of africans in understanding the systems they were being held under and to realize they were all a farce. Systems of oppression and subjugation disguised in in economic, political and social theology . [b]Capitalism is a conseqence of that system of thought and not a cause of it.[/b]Biko never condenmed Capitalist ideologies only in as far as understanding that its practice in Apatheid south africa would prove inefficient in resolving wealth distribution issues.  I dare say he understood its short comings in its application in Apatheid SA. There is a difference my dear boy

I am not for or against capitalist anymore than I am for or against  socialism in as much as I understand the intricacies of each systems strenghts and weaknessess. Please don't mistake that for confusion. Framing these economic systems in terms of "white" and "black" is uneducated and it would be better to just say you don't comprehend people who think like me and go on about your militant life.

There is a stark difference between a 'black" free thinker and a black extremist thinker. One is bound by ideology, the other is bound by NOTHING. One believes the answer lies somewhere at the exteme of ideologies the other understands the answers lie somewhere in the muddled middle of things.

Clear enough for you now!!!

nolongTing:
Well, it did get my attention.  I can see what you mean by the emotional militant crap with no REALISTIC strategy; I think that malcolm x noticed that a bit too late.  Louis Farrakhan's million man march was absolutely shambolic! If anything he made white people richer that day.  Can you imagine how much they made from selling refreshments, transport, hotels and live tv advertising?  He was close to Sudan while the killing in Darfur was going on too.

I am not an expert on Biko, but I was referring to his son Hlumelo Biko's success in the corporate world

The bolded part was very unfortunate for Malcolm. In the end though, he was redeemed and got tha hell out of that organization.

nolongTing:
Steve Biko - wow! Well, he left 5 children and Hlumelo Biko is doing very well - he's a Steve Biko of the Corporate world. You have not explained your title, why do you despise Mr FARRAKHAN?

the title is a gimmick to lure you. On the other hand my views on Mr farrakhan have always been clear. The dude appeals to your emotions and stares up your blood in the hopes that his gibberish will cloud your judgement into analyzing matters from a non- intelletual point of view which history shows will never exert true transformation or change in people. A stroking of their manhoods is about all that nonsense will achieve in the short term.

Mr Biko on the other hand in  " I write what I like" fully analyzes and charts a path forward for his country. One in which he reaches for the higher virtues that man possess, one that will continue to prove the greater of the two philosophies that each man presents for one is simply a flex of masculinity and doomsday propaganda while the other is set by true visionary who's prophecy's have come to pass.

Ps i have no idea what you mean in refernce to "corporate world" as regards Biko's manifesto fo the black conciousness movement?

Steve Biko. A man way ahead of his time who understood what needed to be done. Reaching for greater virtues above self centeredness, division and hate. I love intellectual people who can remove emotion from conversation and learn to think deeply about what a country must do to move past racial, ethnic and tribal society in order to achieve true progress. Please honor this man's memory and buy his book. A true Visionary not a doomsday prophet.


Oh by the way . F*@$K LOUIS FARRAKHAN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=6ZHDPTE4TXk

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=750723.msg9071382#msg9071382 date=1315074811]I really doubt blacks are the majority in north african countries.[/quote]Go deep into the countryside in the Magreb versus the major cities to get an accurate look at the phenotype of North Africa.

There is a greater porportion of the 800 million inhabitants of the continent that is evidently what is refed to as "black", however there are also dominant elements of other ethnic groups that have inhabited the continent enough time to be considered indigenous.

THe "SUB' part in sub sahara is probably the main issue as it denotes some sort of under class, which is why some people prefer to define it as "GREATER" or Tropical AAfrica to highlight the differences between both so called regions.Mind you Not all of sia is inhabited by one class of people therefore they too have different versions of what is defined as "Asian"
It really is inperception so call it what you want it really doesn't make that much of a dfiffernce as long as we all know what is being referd to here

He's looking for attentin. Don't give it to him.

He is relic that is about to become extinct.

Stay away from Yeoville, joburg if you want to meet sensible Nigerians

^ @RSA

Do you just sneek around this forum ready to promote your beloved country to us Nigerians.

If SA is not a footballing nation then why would it be financially sound to host these events there, regardless of quality of stadiums

There are under 500,00 Nigerians in SA and another smaller handfull of other Africans(excluding Zims). Who is going to watch the games

"Foreigners" who fly in from Europe or locals who could care less about the event if "orlando pirates" aint playing

Haha!. I laugh in Zulu

eH?

Bliss4Lyfe:
It is a known fact that Boko Haram Suciders are not all Nigerians but African Islamist from predominantly Muslim African countries with Arab Al qeada indoctrinating dem. Ours borders in the North with Niger, Chad and Burkina Faso should be closed.

You sound like dem republicans that live in border states with Mexico

How does the muslim populated north close its border to people who look very much like them, riding their bicycles, visiting their mosques, speaking their language and herding their cattle across border territories that have no reasonable border posts
Are you serious?

@ poster

They are many ways to relief bent up frustrations.

Posting and answering your own threads must be one of them.

I recommend diet and exercise to divert your attention away from problems you cannot solve.

Shikena!

@ poster

I can't fault them. The dude helped them out during Apatheid plus the UN has not fully recognized the transitional government. I see no legal reason why any funds should be released to anybody at this point in time.

The ANC is fiercely loyal to its comrades in Africa. Look at Zimbabwe

thameamead:
lara logan was not gang violated, she was sexually assulted, i wonder why she felt the need to share something that private and personal with everyone. i wish wish her well.

Who send woman go there. Did she think she was reporting on the streets of Compton

Oh boy I love the beef. Bring it on any day. Ghana.

Who you wan mumu!