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Rhodesia:
I agree he's got some good views,one of them is is to stop sending u spear chuckers aid money so your corrupt 'elected' leaders and warlords can live in Palaces while your people starve.

Go back to your hunter gatherer/subsistence farming roots and you will no longer be dependent on Western aid or stock market fluctuations. Oh and please stop invading my country with millions of aggressive spear chuckers destroying the very fabric of England with your crudeness if you want to go to west go to Australia or Norway or somewhere, we are full up.

Oh you need to clean up that foul mouth of yours!

igbo2011:
Open your eyes before it is too late. Cap28 is warning of the future. Africans will be like the aboriginals and Native Americans if we don't wake up. Cap28 is waking people up and you are putting him down.

We need to stop praying to god and solve the problems. These protests are a great start. After we get a competent government our economy will grow. Hopefully other African nations can do it too.

Ah the great call to justice, equity and freedom in Africa before it is too late. Heard that one a thousand times. So what happens when we wake up and finally eliminate all the "enemies' of Africa, drive off the imperialists and take hold of our destiny.

let me warn you of what that future will be like. People like Cap28 will create new "enemies" to fight.

Don't you get it, yet?

Morpeus says "evolution is the key. Revolution only takes you back to the same starting point"

igbo2011:
Please prove anything that he says wrong, you CANT!!

Well for one he sure does know how to insult people who have opposing world views.

I don't have to run any searches to prove that to you now do I?

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=838834.msg9927877#msg9927877 date=1326123721]Morpheus,
Either propose to Cap28 or get off his ar.se! [/quote]His Ar.se is all yours sweety!

cap28:
why should he check into a mental hospital?

can you put up at least one argument to rebut anything he has posted?

it is so easy to resort to insults but the difficult part is backing up your argument with a rebuttal that makes sense - are you equal to the task?

I think you need to review your debating tactics a little closer.

igbo2011:
Everything that I bolded and the people who are against Africans (white Asian, Latino, etc). Even Africans themselves like the puppet leaders. Even African Americans who want to destroy Africa. Also the media who mis-informs people.
Know your enemy Morpheus.

The easiet way for a propagandist to recruit and multiply his following is to "demonize", "villify' and  create "artificial" enemies which an oppressed soul will embrace as the ultimate cause of his misery. I will never be part of that camp. Continue in your[i] folie en famille[/i]

Morpheus says "The true enemy you battle with is yourself"


I've had enough of somebody else's propaganda. I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.

Malcolm X

igbo2011:
@morphes24
WAKE UP to this world we live in man. This is a FACT: America has been known for overthrowing and killing presiidents and installing dictators. They do this everywher e not just Africa. But America and Europe are broke so they will go for Africa next. The French are already in Ivory Coast because Gbagbo didn't feel like selling his country out.Do you watch Afrisynergu? You should watch that for the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChxyjZJvXwg&feature=channel_video_title

You need to ask yourself who this enemy you are talking about is. Is it imperialists, capitalists, The CIA, The American government, profiteers, White people or are they all one and the same.

igbo2011:
Morpheus, I bet that if a white man were to beat the hell out of you, you will give him an excuse. You love your master don't you You are a good house negro like Malcolm X said.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-a6EzIpwJI

What have the Europeans done for the past 500 years? Know your HISTORY!!!

Oh boy hear we go with the house negro field negro Malcolm x analogy again.  Hey kid, can you try to be more original and actually think critically. If you are studying Malcolm X please do so in its entirety not just the parts that suite your agenda.

The same individual who made this statement:

If the master's house caught on fire, the house Negro would fight harder to put the blaze out than the master would. If the master got sick, the house Negro would say, "What's the matter, boss, we sick?" We sick! He identified himself with his master, more than his master identified with himself. And if you came to the house Negro and said, "Let's run away, let's escape, let's separate," the house Negro would look at you and say, "Man, you crazy. What you mean, separate? Where is there a better house than this? Where can I wear better clothes than this? Where can I eat better food than this?" That was that house Negro. In those days he was called a "house nigger." And that's what we call them today, because we've still got some house niggers running around here


Also made these statemtns as well:

In the past, yes, I have made sweeping indictments of all white people. I will never be guilty of that again — as I know now that some white people are truly sincere, that some truly are capable of being brotherly toward a black man. The true Islam has shown me that a blanket indictment of all white people is as wrong as when whites make blanket indictments against blacks.

This religion recognizes all men as brothers. It accepts all human beings as equals before God, and as equal members in the Human Family of Mankind. I totally reject Elijah Muhammad's racist philosophy, which he has labeled 'Islam' only to fool and misuse gullible people as he fooled and misused me. But I blame only myself, and no one else for the fool that I was, and the harm that my evangelical foolishness on his behalf has done to others

I've had enough of somebody else's propaganda. I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.

I did many things as a [Black] Muslim that I'm sorry for now. I was a zombie then — like all [Black] Muslims — I was hypnotized, pointed in a certain direction and told to march. Well, I guess a man's entitled to make a fool of himself if he's ready to pay the cost.

"Since I learned the truth in Mecca, my dearest friends have come to include all kinds -- some Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, agnostics, and even atheists! I have friends who are called capitalists, Socialists, and Communists! Some of my friends are moderates, conservatives, extremists -- some are even Uncle Toms! My friends today are black, brown, red, yellow, and white!"

I believe in recognizing every human being as a human being, neither white, black, brown nor red. When you are dealing with humanity as one family, there's no question of integration or intermarriage. It's just one human being marrying another human being, or one human being living around and with another human being

cap28:
i know what you mean - its not looking good in nigeria right now and things are set to get even worse because GEJ will do everythign possible to resist any opposition from the people.

thanks for the clip - Yeah, Nzeogwu was and remains a hero in my opinion - he was a nationalist and took a very courageous step by trying to get rid of the neo colonial puppets that had been put in place by the british. The british feared him and did everything possible to ensure that his coup would not succeed -this is why the coup was labelled an igbo coup by the british media instead of a revolution - the british had worked so hard to ensure that their appointed puppets would take over the reins of power - they couldnt bear the idea of all their hard work going to waste.

i beleive that the british whipped up the anti igbo hatred which led to the pogroms in the north in July 66 and the subsequent civil war - they had a motive - to keep the northern elites in power and the igbos weak and powerless and therefore no threat to their economic interests.

of course we're still cool sis, you are entitled to your opinion

Sad self exiled Igbo boy. I had a friend just like that who ran mad over-analyzing the complex nature of the Human condition.

Take heart there is hope in modern medicine.

Cap28. The fringes of Conspiracy theory thought processes often allude to the onset of a severe case of mental illness. Save yourself from yourself.  Its not too late.

Behold CAP28's Heroes. The messiah sent from The messenger Elijah muhammed to come save the black man from the blue eyed White devil created by the evil scientist Yacub.

igbo2011:
Cap28 went to UK so he can get money to provide for his family. SInce the Brits stole eveerything from Nigeria and all the puppet leaders put their money in England, he might as well go there to get the money back. Also, this doesn't just hapen in Africa, it is around the world.  Look up Suharto of Indonesia and Pinochet of Chile. We must know our enemy and what they want us to do. SOuth American leaders stood up to imperialism, and there were Revolutions in Egypt and Tunisia because of their puppets. The west has nowhere to go but SS Africa now. They need us more than we need them.  We have all the natural resources and human resources.  We don't need anybody.

@ Igbo2011
Keep your head buried in those history books and continue to regurgitate historical events. That's Cap28's camp. You guys need to go teach World history classes 101 and stop wasting peoples time reminiscing about pinochets, sandanistas, juntas, che guevara, The bay of pigs, cuban revolutions, Banana plantations in central America and CIA operations in nicaragua.

Human beings tend to explain their existence through misery and suffering or conjure up a "devil" or "boogeyman" to expalin away their failures

Beaf:
Our culture is rich.
Full breas'ted virgins for the King of the Foreign Section. The Royal loins will never be lazy and nor the bedstead be lonely or mundane; there will be prodigy of his fact driven royal kind.
Hail Morpheus!

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I love those Southern African girls with their booty. I will tak as many as you want to give me. Keep them coming!

cap28:
I see you are still relying on propaganda outlets like CNN for news -

i watched the video and as soon as the guy started talking about his background i smelt a rat - why did he spend his childhood moving from one african country to another every 4 years ? wasnt he in school?

You are really something else. You would twist truth to fit your warped propagandist mentality. Could it be his father was a diplomat and mother a teacher who worked ofr and international organization.  

cap28:
i also find his story about running a school at the age of 18 highly implausible-  but hey this is CNN - the same people who have turned lying into a fine art.

Sure a better place to get the real truth would be temple number 22, Nation of Islam head quarters, brixton london.

The high school was in a small area in bostwana dummy. I am guessing CNN got in a time machine went back to when he was 18 and implanted the story in his sub concious. You know thay are that powerful right?

cap28:
first of all i would like to know who is funding this his "elite leadership school" western NGO's by any chance? because we all know that NGO's act as spies for their respective countries.

Right Cap its a grand scheme to make us copies of "white men" indoctrinated into the capitalist mindset of the oppressor so we are programmed to do their bidding.

Oh yeah did you know they figured out how to do this by making fisrt contact with the Elohims. Space gods who gave them the power to conquer and mesmerize darker peoples cause of their smaller brain size.

cap28:
if western govts are that concerned about the poor standard of education in africa why do they advise african countries indebted to western financial institutions to cut spending on education and divert these monies into servicing their debts?

if they are so concerned about developing and moulding future african leaders why not encourage individual african countries to spend more on education instead of advising the opposite.

Can't help you there. Maybe you shoudl try asking them. When was the last time you asked any westerner that question? Did you do it at work, school a social gathering maybe Hmmm?

cap28:
secondly he says he recruits his pupils from refugee camps all over africa and these pupils are selected not only on the basis of their intellectual abiliy but their ability to demonstrate - courage, passion, perseverance and good values - fine, those are all good qualities required for good leaders but if these kids are being moulded by people with an ulterior motive they could be exploited and used to create robotic zombies who will follow orders and never challenge their benefactors  - in other words one has to wonder whehter what this guy is running is some sort of mind control outfit that will brainwash vulnerable african children and turn them into pliant puppets.

You damn right agian Cap.  Black people have smaller brains rendering them incapable of figuring out when they are being indoctrinated. We need you guys who are free minded to come tell us how it really is. Why not fly down here or maybe to the academy to do that.

cap28:
Morpheus the problem with you is that like most nigerians you suffer from inferiority complex - you worship and place on a pedestal anything that comes with a western seal of approval - stop relying on propaganda for your information as i can see that it has robbed you of the ability to think critically.

Right my next stop is the NOI's head quarters in london or maybe I should visit the black hebrew Israelite church in brooklyn. They say White people are Edomites and we the black people are the true children of Israel and the White man was sent via the Illuminati to enslave our kind and send us to the new world and that one day God was bringing down his wrath on the White man and The black man would eventually be emancipated in mind and body. What do you thnk NOI or Black hebrew Isarelites or maybe you can recommend some of your propagansit books to me

cap28:
i noticed you didnt answer any of my questions - 

Yep, just like when u wouldn't run searches on my threads

cap28:
Africa figured out what was best for it a long time ago - In the 1980s african countries got together and drafted an economic plan entitled: the lagos plan of action for the economic development of africa:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos_Plan_of_Action

Sadly the western nations blocked all attempts by african nations to implement it.

You are very resistant to knowledge and that is what will lead to your downfall. 

good luck mate

So until we do away with western influence will we ever be able to implement plans that were formed 30 + years ago. While we are waiting for this great paradigm shift in the "african" way of doing things, others are not merely talking a good fight they are actually doing real on the ground work.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/28/world/africa/swaniker-african-voices/index.html

Good luck with exposing the Whiteman's evils and "telling it to his face"

^^^
My points exactly. Continious commentary with no objective. In Cap 28's world, Africa is required to figure out what works best for it without any frame of reference (except of course for the one that pits it against any western ideology, philosophy or economics).

At least Boko haram has an objective. What's yours?

Let me guess. Your commentary is to inform us of evil empires that exist to destroy us and your mission is to emancipate the western educated slave minds of Africans (cause we are in too deep) and we will take hold of our destiny, rid ourselves of every thing "western", formulate completely new idealogies seperate from these foreign influences and chart the "African" course until we become equals in world affairs.

Right Cap. This coming from someone who dresses, lives, speaks and spends "Western"

All I hear is barking!!

Behold!

Real African renaissance men that are transforming the continent not complaining about it.


http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/28/world/africa/swaniker-african-voices/index.html

cap28:
how are you enjoying the fuel subsidy removal and how does it feel to be betrayed by your hero Sanusi? - remember i warned you about him a few months back. I told you that he takes his instructions from the IMF not the other way around - hope you've been reading his comments regarding this subsidy removal.

You can't have a civil arguement with someone who has convinced himself that the IMF and World bank are secret imperious organizations that are bent on controlling world resources and forcing their economic policies down the throat of suffering massess of people via their puppets. Not possible!

You also cannot convince a closet socialist/marxist ideologue who masks his political and economic views under the guise of empathy for the suffering masses of his homeland while enjoying the lifestyles of the same economies he advocates against.  I am not going to bother bantering economic policies with you. Its a waste of valuable time.  I will however state my stance on the fuel subsidy issue:

1. I am in agreement with the macro economic implications that Nigeria will face down the line if it continues to subsidize consumption over production potentials. (The opposing arguement being there are no real subsidies being rendered to the people in the first place)

2. The IMF and World bank did not create good governance and corruption problems in Nigeria  which are the underlying issues fueling the subsidy  removal backlash

3. Government should not be in the business of building or maintaining refineries. They have shown time and time again that they are grossly inefficient and ineffective in managing any enterprise in Nigeria.

4. A step down approach to reducing fuel subsidies over a given period of time should have been the most ideal process given that on the other side of the arguement government has not demonstrated its ability to manage or implement structural policies that would create the enabling environment necessary to facilitate economic growth vis a vis power/electricity generation,oil refining and infrastruture to convince the populous of the benefits of their subsidy removal agenda.

cap28:
Hope you know Sanusi would never be where he is today if he were not collaborating with all of the international banking cartels.

Right Cap28.
Lamido Sanusi a student of ABU and  University in Sudan, who studied mostly Arabic and philosophy is an agent of the dubious organization known as the IMF.  An affluent grand son of the Sultan of Sokoto who was obviously groomed step into the high ranks of First bank in Nigeria via his family connections is in cahoots with capitalist thugs.

An admirer of one of the greatest communists of our time, Chairman Mao, paying homage to his idol by often dressing like the Chinese dictaror was hand picked by a bunch of thieving corporate cartels to sell Nigeria off to them and put its people in perpetual servitude.  That about sums up the bloke. Did I miss anything?

your conspiracies know no bounds  *Shaking my head*

cap28:
Isnt it about time you stopped allowing yourself to be bamboozled by these crooks?

ps - the devaluation of the naira is coming soon - so hope you've started tightening your belt.

Isn't it about time you stopped hiding out in self imposed exile and come fight the good fight against the governemnt you speak against and help us usher in our new revolutionary marxist government that will serve the people, drive the puppeteers and the profiteerers away and bring forth this new egalitarian dream you have for your HOME Country.

Regurgitating vile sentiments you read in propagandist books isn't doing much for me. I am waiting to see you reporting from the streets of Nigeria!

Until then.

All Hail Comrade  Cap28!

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=838834.msg9909430#msg9909430 date=1325873793]hehehehe. I've already crowned him.

The Indisputable Champion Analyst of World History & Diplomacy, Current Affairs and International News = CAP28.

I actually didn't intend to force an election on us. I simply wanted to reminisce over the past year and acknowledge posters that I feel contributed immensely to this section.

But if majority of people want an official (s)election, someone else can take over the reins. You'll need to pick a date for end of nomination and simply count the results and declare from there.[/quote]Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

blacksta:
We need to distinguish between conspiracy theories and actual foreign matter

My sentiments exactly!

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=838834.msg9897304#msg9897304 date=1325719462]The Morpheus24-Cap28 Feud was something to behold too!    How're they getting along so far this year?  [/quote]Bros, no progress in 2012

He can bring it anyday. I am not going anywhere!

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I nominate myself

MORPHEUS24

Voetsek:
South Africa Yearbook 2010/2011

http://www.gcis.gov.za/resource_centre/sa_info/yearbook/2010-11.htm

Voetsek back to you too!

paniki:
It's a matter of education and knowledge creation. Developed countries have people who live to just create knowledge and new concepts and then pass on those new concepts to interested people within their population through formal education. Those who get the knowledge and new concepts passed on to them will then be in a position were they KNOW how to produce things and others can use such skills to create new demand in society. 20 years ago the internet was just something known to those who live to just create knowledge and new concepts. They developed and set standards for this thing which everyone now uses. So I.T is white mans concept just like most other things, therefore whites will continue to be successful for as long as they continue to create new knowledge and concepts which set global standards.

So to answer your question - most black people at the moment cannot be producers as you want them to be because they don't KNOW how to produce.

African countries need to invest in the development of black EXPERTS in all fields because it is experts who run the world and set standards which get adopted by government and commerce and society. African countries should ensure that were capacity lacks to develop black experts in their own country they should be sent abroad for training and then be returned to pass on the knowledge to the general interested public. Most African countries fail to understand this important requirement which means that their development will always be determined by suggestions made by foreign experts who don't have real life experience with the country.

A very sensible analysis of the African dilemma. I concur completely and have noticed the trend of SA't that return home after studies abroad, building much needed capacity tht is required to ensure this change

Pi0neer:
As for the other side gists, I would agree with cap28.
White people still seek to enslave blacks everywhere, either directly or indirectly. Also, I think black people are asleep. Nowadays you see blacks just trying their best to prove to themselves that they can be just like whites in lifestyle. Unlike Asians who have their own distinct beliefs and goals, blacks have no aspirations than trying to be like the white man and enjoy the white man's luxuries. They're always chasing the white's material possessions. Black people have no societal values of their own anymore, thanks to slavery and colonisation.

To state that black peoople have no distinct beliefs, culture or goals is an opinion and not fact. Its simply an observation based on your perception of what you believe is every black persons reality.

Pi0neer:
I think it's a bit off for morpheus to post pictures of black people having fun in predominantly white parties, or pictures of houses in white-owned neighbourhoods owned by blacks. What does that prove? When will blacks build and promote their own societies?

Check those pics again. Where do you see 'predominantly white" people in the photos
Maybe you would prefer these pics of shanty towns to support your ascertions or believe that all 5million white people in South Africa are chilling in Sandton and luxuries apartments in capetown. People just see what they want to see bro!. Pick your battles

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Rhodesia:
He was a spearchuking murderer.

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Better than a pale faced part neanderthal cave mutant

Angry black Africans that think they can't come back to their countries and fight the good fight. They escape to western lands and act as if they really care about the continent and all atrocities that have been committed in it.

Behold the "terrorist" Mandela's South Africa. There's blood on the streets, Race wars everyday. Blacks killing whites. Whites beating blacks.Run white people run!!!


http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/01/12/skin.care.africology.malee/index.html


http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/africa/03/23/mzolis.barbeque/index.html?iref=allsearch

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cap28:
^^^^

you know nothing about me, where i live or where i have been in the world, so i would advise you not to jump to conclusions.

Where have you been?. Peckham, brixton, Piccadily circus or buckingham palace.

Crap28 language:

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