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cap28:
^^^^^^^^
i now know for a FACT that you are CRIMINALLY INSANE 

I will not even attempt to tap into that crazy twisted sociopathic mind of yours - instead to save my own sanity i will now officially resolve to NEVER EVER again entertain your totally unhinged mind in anything resembling debate, goodbye and goodluck 

HA HA hA!

You haven't answered the question. its a YES or a NO

"If Cap 28 visited a prostitution house on a weekly basis because he had HIV and couldn't 'get it" from regular girls and I stated that I understand the reason he does that. Does that constitute "in support of"


Too rigorous for your mind huh?  YOU LACK THE COGNITIVE ABILLITY TO INTERPRET COMPLEX INFORMATION. Keep to your simple rantings and ravings. It suites you fine.

For all others: compare the definition with referene to the logic involved:

TO CONDONE:

to regard or treat something bad or blameworthy as acceptable, forgivable, or harmless  e.g a government accused of condoning racism

TO UNDERSTAND: to grasp the meaning of
to grasp the reasonableness (reason)
to have thorough or technical acquaintance with or expertness in the practice of 
to be thoroughly familiar with the character and propensities of
to interpret in one of a number of possible ways
to have the power of comprehension
to achieve a grasp of the nature, significance, or explanation of something

cap28:
i know you are an educated illiterate and therefore use words whose meaning you do not understand, but if you dismiss a person's argument as "imperialist propaganda" does that indicate that you are for or against the west?

You left out the Logic in comparison:

"If Cap 28 visited a prostitution house on a weekly basis because he had HIV and couldn't 'get it" from regular girls and I stated that I understand the reason he does that. Does that constitute "in support of"

cap28:
also if you describe the west/US stragegy of the destabilisation of the a sovereign state as a "perfectly good strategy as far as you are concerned" does that indicate that you are for or against the west/US's foreign policy?

Logic:

"If Cap 28 visited a prostitution house on a weekly basis because he had HIV and couldn't 'get it" from regular girls and I stated that I understand the reason he does that. Does that constitute "in support of"

cap28:
if you endorse the west/US defence manufacturers policy of supplying arms to BOTH sides in a war - are you for or against western foreign policy?

never have i come across anyone as dumb as you in my life.

ENDORSE: to approve openly especially : to express "support or approval of publicly and definitely" 

Logic:

"If Cap 28 visited a prostitution house on a weekly basis because he had HIV and couldn't 'get it" from regular girls and I stated that I "understand" the reason he does that. Does that constitute "in support of"

keeping trying PUNK!

cap28:
In defense of white supremacy by morpheus:

here again is morpheus JUSTIFYING and DEFENDING the atrocious and racist foreign policy of the US:

State the specifics i.e the specific line "in defense of"

TO CONDONE and to UNDERSTAND an action are two different things

cap28:
Here again he agrees that the US are embarking on a neo colonial annexation of libya  BUT in his book it is justified because:

Stating that a restatement of a "problem" is old news as regurgitated by angry black supremacist youngsters does not consititute "condoning it"

Again TO CONDONE and to UNDERSTAND a subject matter are two different things

cap28:
He even goes as far as justifying the USs failure to intervene in Rwanda shamelessly defending a group of racists who did not think 1 million african lives were worthy of protection, but strangely enough now think  libyan lives are (could it be the oil reserves located out in the desert):

Trying to garrner support by appealing to the emotions of the reader in refuting US foreign policy action in Africa "Rwanda vs Libya" is disingenious to the  audience.  The attempt to stare emotions by recallling gruesome massacres is the easiest way to sway a readers opinion. Cap28 believes that acknowledging the fact that the US did not intervene in Rwanda's ordeal and did in Libya's case constitutes "FULL SUPPORT OF THE ACTION"

Elementary thinking!

TO CONDONE an action and to UNDERSTAND a subject matter are two different things.

cap28:
He then puts the finishing touch to his infinite self hatred here, by castigating me for higlighting the racist, tyrannical behaviour of the US govt towards weaker third world nations and again rushes to their defence by makign the ludicrous claim that the US IS NOT AN IMPERIALIST NATION:

I urge the readers to cast away sentimentality in employing arguementative premises regarding this subject matter. It clouds judgment and is nothing more than an exercise in machismosim. The person who barks the loudest and tells the most gruesome of tales is not the more intelligent.

Unequivocably stating that the "US IS AN IMPERIALIST" country has nothing to do with educating African people.

cap28:
In addition not only does he himself not offer up any solutions he accuses anyone who dares to highlight the evils of white supremacy as stirring up emotional sentiments and even goes as far as stating that such endeavours serve no purpose.

I further urge the audience not to entertain frivolous discussions about "white supremacy" in the guise of US foreign policy actions. The poster lacks insight into his cognitive limitations

cap28:
His recommendations are that africa remain economically and politcally enslaved to the global capitalist economic systems of the IMF, the multinational predators and the world bank - wow thanks morpheus with friends like you does africa really need enemies?

This is coming from an individual who has never been inside a UN building in his entire life,
Can't name one deparment that exists with its body, what its function is, how decisions are made, what information goes into making those decisions , who is involved,
Never commanded a group of soldiers in defence of anything, never stepped on a battle field to wage war against an opponent, Isn't a member of any Humanitarian NGO's doing anything in Africa, never participated in any volunteer missions to save any African lives.  

Yet we are to believe this individual cares for the lifes of the Rwandans that were killed and truly knows all the facts consistent with insinuations of PUPPET MASTERS

Expose yourself for what you are. A disgruntles black supremacist angry youngster who sits powerless in his UK aparment, paying taxes to an imperialist goverment that he points fingers at. Making a living under the same IMPERIALIST protections, putting his money into the same institutions that are blamed for destroying the economies of Africa and buying products from the same multinationals that he accuses of atrocities

This is not an exercise in support of anyting. Its an exercise in HYPROCRISY. Read between the lines

TRY AGAIN PUNK!

cap28:
how about this:

the words of a supposed "intellectual" i laugh i wan die 

pathetic, desperate attempt using unintelligible, meaningless grammar  to defend the indefensible

ha ha ha ha!

How can the statement you posted be in support of the US. Look at the second line of the post again and read the entire post in context, dummy!

If Cap 28 visited a prostitution house on a weekly basis because he had HIV and couldn't 'get it" from regular girls and I stated that I understand the reason he does that. Does that constitute "in support of"

To "CONDONE" an action and to "UNDERSTAND" it are two different things

TRY again PUNK!

pleep:
^^^ its a difficult situation, but the only expectable solution would be for people in or from the Third World to recognize that western neo-colonialsim exists, and then try not to buy into it. Tt sounds like an extreamly modest result but think, for example, if The government of Niger was aware of neo-colonialism, and thus didnt blindly trust France, they wouldnt have let the french multinational companies only give them 5% of the money earned from selling Nigeren Uranium. And that is far from a modest result.

The solution has to do a lot less with telling us tales about how the CIA attempted to assasinate Lumumba or information that "neo colonialism' exists or is perpetuated by the West in Africa today. THATS A GIVEN. If your  rational is correct and all that needs to be done is inform "us" of this,  then why have other nations who were at starting points with African countries post independence  FULLY AWARE OF SIMILAR ATROCITIES metted out on them, been able to negotiate better deals with the West. How did they surpass most African countries in terms of development and GDP per capita given the fact that some of them have less resources or even lesser number of "intellectuals" than many African countries.?

There is a reason why so called "puppet governments" in Africa are helpless when it comes to negotiating favorable deals with multi nationals and US strategic interests in Africa. There is a reason why a country would allow itself to be coerced into accepting IMF loan packages to restructure its economy. I dare say, that neo colonialism is but a fraction of the problem and not presenting the problem in its entirety in giving the reader the ability to understand the issue from all sides is doing a diservice to the end goal.  Exarcebating a problem has nothing to do with educating people or attempting  to make them any smarter than they were.

shotster50:
@ morpheus,

The fact is that they only see whats wrong, or at least what they think is wrong without offering any form of workable solution.

Precisely my point

pleep:
Whats wrong with you dude? why are you so passionate about defending the west, even at the expense of your African brothers? its quite disgusting really. I mean, I understand why you would be gratefull seeing as all the "_{wonderful things}" the west has done for Africa and Africans but you really are taking it too far.
Just stop its ridiculous now.

Show me one statement through all my threads that defends the west or any body in particular.

wake up and pay attention!!

MandingoII:
YOUR B.I.T.CH A.R. SE. have given up and laid down in the fetal position already.

you might as well turn over and give up that nasty a, rse  to the      white man.  coward

Dingo Dingo

How's your airconditioned apartment and cable t.v. with 300 hundred channels fairing for you or your 22's on your oversized SUV doing with gas prices

They spinning "N*#+GA, THey spinning!!

cap28:
^^^^^

I prefer to read the works of noam chomsky and michael engdahl - these are REAL intellectuals, people who  actually understand whats going on not half baked wanna bes like you, word of advice try and broaden your horizons try reading something by one of those authors - it might help you  start understanding the world you live in
a bit more.

I prefer books by Authors such as
Nelson mandela's "A long walk to freedom,"
Huey P newtons "a radical theorist"
Miton friedman's "Capitalism and freedom"
Malcom x's "By any means necessary"
Max stirner's "the Ego and its own"
Thomas pakenhams : the scramble for Africa"

Notice how broad those authors are up there in terms of subject matter and scope.

maybe "broadening your horizons" will help in understanding that everything in this world is not always "black' or 'white" instead of sticking to books that make you angry!

^^^^

I've tried with you. You are unreceptive.

You need a couple more years to marinate and get that vex out of your system.

@ cap28

Your bravado stops at video postings and links coupled with empty name calling in the guise of information while sitting in a heated room in your Imperialist built UK apartment pointing fingers


Go do some field work or run some entity in direct correlation to your subject matters then come back come tell us something we don't already know.

Besides the above. A talking head is a talking head is a talking head.

cap28:
^^^^^

everything that i posted on here has been backed up with factual evidence , i have challenged you to refute anythign that i have ever posted on here with your own factual evidence but you couldnt instead you started raging like an unhinged clown - if only you know how sad and pathetic you sound you would really stop making a fool of yourself.

Please, Like I haven't done that before, we not playing that game. Anything refuted that doesn't conform with your "black conciousness" movement  is written of as " house negro" uncle tomism. Your objective is not to engage in any meaningful debate. Its to perpetuate your propaganda in the guise of debate.

If you are not on the first plane to Naija or libya to go join in armed struggle and free your people  from the imperialist . What's your point? What relevance is there to debate you?

We might as well just keep stating our opinions huh?

cap28:
^^^^^^

Its  now obvious to me that you are mentally ill, if not why would you keep tracking my every movement on here,  it appears that your life is so empty that you now dedicate a huge chunk of it to monitoring my every move on NL and then working yourself into a state over  my opinions, what is it about me that you find so threatening?? I know you are a schizophrenic but going by your unhinged diatribes i honestly beleive that you  belong behind the walls of a maximum security prison for the criminally insane.

I am glad you called them "opinions" and not fact. There is a HUGE difference.

Please reiterate that to your empty headed disciples who are dazzled at your ability to outline huge chunks of information but lack the ability to truly analyze any of it. I hardly believe they even read through the excerpts or scan the attachments as a matter of fact. I guess it just makes them feel good even if for a brief moment.

When they walk through the doors of their homes its back to the IMperialist's world driving those cars, working those jobs, paying them taxes. Problems with no solutions, just a bunch of bru ha ha

Some Messiah you are.

REVOLUTIONS CREATE TEMPORARY STATES THAT ARE REVERSABLE. EVOLUTION OF THE MIND SPRINGS YOU FORWARD FOREVER

Morpheus says "FREE YOUR MIND!"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

This is worse than I had anticipated.

We are witnessing the rebirth of Huey P Newton. Everyone go get your weapons and get ready for a revolution.


The blackman's emancipation from mental slavery is at hand.

Our messiah has arrived. All hail Cap28!!

MandingoII:
Everything that is WRONG with this world can be traced to:

White supremacy.

nowdays, you have people like Morephus that will do anything to ascertain a Mercedez including giving up his first born for a piece of materialism.

sad mofo

Who the hell is Morephus?

White supremacist atrocities will not be reversed by black supremacist thinking in disguise

As far as the mercedez goes. I am guessing you use your 15 feet to roam the steets of the US. right , right aint your people popular for them 22 rims. They spining N*&%ga they spinning!

MandingoII:
lol, morpheus getting smacked around.

Your bird brain is stunted

Dingo!

You wish!

cap28:
the great chinweizu continues to break it down as follows:

http://www.afraka.com/showthread.php?392-What-Is-NEGROPHOBIA-Pt.-1

Any author that uses the word "negro" talk less of "phobia" to explain the complexities of race relations  in this day and age is another cave man stuck in 60's AA civil rights jibberish. Using an outdated word which is simply an english version of the word for "black" in spanish in trying to sound intellectual, zigzaging through definitions that are nonsensical at best is mind boggling.  How silly.

"I am not a racist. I am against every form of racism and segregation, every form of discrimination. I believe in human beings, and that all human beings should be respected as such, regardless of their color."

Malcolm X,after his journey,perhaps in interview 18 Jan. 1965, in By any means, p. 158 [/i]

"I have fought against white domination and I have fought against black domination. I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an ideal which I hope to live for and to achieve. But if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die."[/b][i]

Nelson Mandela speech made during his trial before inprisonmemt

Some of us know what  peole like you are trying to sell to us in the guise of emancipation . Malcolm x understood it in his last days and so did Nelson mandela. We aint buying it cause it aint nothing new. If it smells like a rat no matter where its coming from its a rat

Digging real deep are you cap28

TRY AGAIN PUNK!!
I LIVE FOR THIS Poo!!

@ jesoul

Patronage is unflattering.

Like predecessors before them, they have read books on the illuminati, the new world order, the free masons, Marcus garvey black liberalist theology, WE de bois, Frederick douglas, nation of islam, black hebrew theology, Rastafarism, Scramble for Africa and the likes.

In their minds, they believe contact with these subject matters convince them that they are well read and equipped to confront the complexities that plague human relationships piting sides as the "we" the good people against them the "oppressor." when an intellligent person knows its much more complex than matters that are presented.

Stop wasting your time, like everyting else they will pass.

JeSoul:
. . . and you have yet again made my point for me.

If someone does not agree with your worldview, you conclude that they henceforth do not know anything about history. You say I have "no rudimentary knowledge of racial issues" . . . I can only chuckle at this unfounded declaration (a tactic that you are fond of making by the way). If you have any "rudimentary knowledge" of reason, you would readily understand that a fact will remain a fact - but interpretation of the said fact can be as diverse as the people interpreting it. This is what you and everyone else does in the politics section everyday - interpret the facts, the history from your own point of view. But you seem to have an unusually lofty opinion of yourself and your 'knowledge' over others. I see you display it on all your threads. I concede all the time you have a good grasp of history, and I mean it . . . but I reiterate, your interpretation of it is an outright crime.

But its okay if you believe yourself too "knowledged" and "enlightened" to condescend to this "low brow" audience to explain your beliefs. Afterall, you would only be following in the footsteps of those who have gone before you - intelligent yes (as you yourself probably are) but socialists, anarchists, anti-semitics, relics (to steal a word from Morph.) etc amongst other things. "Intelligence' is not synonymous with 'wisdom'. You seem to be mixing the two.

So I am content to settle for common sense instead of wild, unsubstantiated conspiracies or anarchistic political philosophy that has no head or tail or playing victimism as a sly means of refusing to take responsibility for ones own actions and destiny. No thanks. Alice has left wonderland Cap . . . you should think of doing the same soon.

Tactics of a man asleep living in his dream world of conspiracies and backroom dealings. The only people who agree with his world view are people who are stuck in this same state of mind. A symptom of and aggravated state of mental oppression.Thats why the world is the way it is and not the opposite.

Stop wasting your time he won't answer your questions. Intelligence only exists in HIS WORLD not the real world. In his world everyone else is the blind one and his group are the enlightened ones come to save us from ourselves. A formula too often familiar practiced for a millenia.

cap28:
what has all this gibberish got to do with the topic which was previously under discussion? why are you obsessed with my personall details? you are afraid of the truth and in order to cover up your ignorance you divert the discussion and expect me to go down your pathetic diversion, im sorry i ve got better things to do with my time.

Pot calling kettle black. I thought you had figured out all my personal details by your insinuations. Why reluctant to express yours.
Tis relevant to determine the details in order to expose your hyprocrisy. Don't hide behind the topic, answer the question and prove me wrong.

cap28:
if you feel that what farrakhan said has been heard before why on earth are you getting all hot and bothered about it, a confident person secure in their own knowledge and wisdom would have just moved on to another topic but like a very bad smell you keep hanging around weaving ever more diversions and making even more random statements which have nothing to do with the topic at hand - are you that insecure and jobless?? word of advice - you are not forced to respond to every single topic on NL, if you disagree with anything i have written move on - beleive me you wont be missed.

The answer to the above can be summarized in one word. "CONTEXT". The arguement is false because the poster and the false minister refuse to factor in all relevant information required for the analysis of the topic on US policies in the middle east.

They take excerpts of what they want you to hear and then pass it off as NEW never before heard information to further silly self interest agendas, claiming they are educating people when in fact they are making them even dumber than before because they refuse to discuss issues in full scope and be vetted s experts on this subject matter. They then waive of criticisms of their persons and imperfect characters as so called information gatherers shouting abuses at their critics and accuse them of all sorts of rubbish.

So much for Truth tellers.

MORPHEUS SAYS "FREE YOUR MIND"

Knock that fool out!. Why were they waiting for him outside the casino. Bros I support you. Do the 8 months and come out of jail. You will get picked up by another club and will move on, not the end of the world.

Money is not everyting. Live by some principles and have some backbone. If someone confronts you what are you suppposed to do. Drive away like a punk because you are in the UK.

Etuhu do your time and come out holding your head up. You aint a punk!

MandingoII:
Morpheus ugly a. r. se. is in america?


another fat ugly over-eating african in our midst.

Don't worry Mandingo I visit your country often enough to be considered a resident. Its a privilege accorded to me plus the AC here is always going down

When is your next run to BIg MOs's barbecue pit. I am dying for a large slab of meat with greens, cornbread and chitlings on the side.

cap28:
Mr wannabe intellectual who hides behind unintelligble grammar, everything about you screams fake, you are desperate to be accepted by whites - they just laugh at you, your poor grammar and spelling gives you away as a half baked wanna be intellectual, your "knowledge" is confined to writing unintelligible diatribes about your betters on NL, even the whites that you worship would only employ you to do menial tasks for them and not to work alongside them as an equal.

I am still waiting for you to refute anything that farrakhan raised in that video clip, like i said learn to show gratitude towards your betters.

by the way why would i disclose anything about myself to a confirmed schizophrenic?

You never do like to answer questions do you? your expertise is on steering up sentiments eh? Confirm where you live? What banks do you keep your money?(assuming you have any). Who operates those banks? How do you get around? If in a motor vehicle, who built them? Do you physically own any natural resources, if not who is holding you from joining up with MEND or taking the next flight to Libya to fight for the oppressed mans right to his equal share of a good life within the contexts of a social contract with society.?.

The information I request is general, nothing specific enough to get scared, don't worry.  If its England you reside in, just say England, If its a run down renault you drive just day "Renault made by, ". if its barclays or HSBC you put your money in just say barclays owned by,  its okay you don't have to be specific. Bet you won't though

If you answer my questions, I promise I will try to explore yours in further detail. For starters, there is nothing informative about what Farrakhan says that has not been already examined in public debate regarding US affairs in the middle east. What is eye opening about his gibberish xcept for innuendos about conspricacy theories?

Please make up your mind, Am I an overeducated taxi driver, A schizo, a bad writer, a janitor,. Can't be all of them at the same time you know. Doesn't work that way. You mistake me for some of those illiterate Nigerian friends of yours that get visas to the UK and start working as janitors in UK hospitals or opening up shops in Peckham sellling garri and nigerian movies. I know you see them everyday, you can preach your horse crap conspiracy theories and backroom hand shakes to them or better still get on a plane and come explore the world a little more. Digging your face into those history books and lending an ear to extremists is clouding your judgement. A little field work should help you out.

You are quite inconsistent you know, first you say you don't hate White people, yet all the governments and institutions you warn us about are controlled primarily by these same people. Is a western government not representative of the will of its majority?.  Then you claim I want to be like White people cause to you a use of common sense equates a pledge of devotion and submission to your "IMPERIALISTS",  then you support the rantings of a known Black supremacist whose organization is full of pseudo Islamic doctrne and fallacies about origins of black people, passing the fool off as a legitimate truth seeker.

Right Right Cap 28.
Please when you have some compeling news to share with us let us know otherwise keep up the History lessons, they are really making a monumental difference. lol

cap28:
^^^

Your stupi.dity never ceases to amaze me, you accuse me of hating whites when you live in a country that regarded african people as chattel and then subsequently practised legalised racial discrimination up untill 1968.

A country which still treats people who look like you as second class citizens and then you accuse ME of hating whites!!!!

Still stuck in the 60's history professor.
Can you tell us where you live please, is it lagos or Kafanchan, Nigeria and if so are you a first class citizen in your country of abode? If you are do tell what the freedoms of a first class citizen are accorded to you. Do you control any resources?

How come you haven't joined mend yet, or how come you aint in talks to overthrow the puppet govt in Nigeria?, I guessed you prefer the job of a town crier eh?

Where do you work? How to do you make your living? whose bank do you keep your money, what mode of transportation do you use.

Do tell?  Ah bet you won't?

@ Cap28

Read your stuff on "my posts" so don't worry you don't have to post it again. Don't knwo how that "dare" has anyting to do with courage or bravery. like you said something different from what you have been saying

still ranting and raving about boogeymen and crucifixes huh? its okay you didn't answer any of my questions just an attempt to deviate from the question by switching reference and pretending to really respond . In other words engaging in whats called a "STRAWMAN ARGUEMENT".

Don't blow up cause you still haven't figured out how or where to channel your underlying hatred for people who differ from you basically on a melanin level derived from physical adaptations from bio geographical adaptations and removeall the preconceptions of where you think I am coming from. Thats the first step.

PhysicsMHD:
The spam blocker strikes again?

it recognizes freedom of speech from propagandaism

cap28:
But you dont have a brain, neither are you capable of thinking independently all you do is regurgitate the garbage you were brainwashed with when you attended that fourth rate back water college you attended as a foreign student.

I see you like the word regrugitation now huh, A thank you is not needed. its okay.

Question; where do you live again? I am really hoping its in Ajegunle, lagos Naija if not then hyprocrisy is a disease.

cap28:
There is nothing vaguely intellectual about your mind, or your thought process. 

All i get from you is unadulterated self hatred and jealousy towards any otther black person who you perceive as better than yourself, so please dont kid yourself.

coming from a history professor on fact and fiction, I doubt you have the expertise to make that asertion. Try again!

cap28:
Education is supposed to confer humility not make you feel superior to others, the funny thing is when your type are in the presence of whites all this fake superiority  vanishes into thin air, i have seen so many nigerians liek you bowing and scraping before whites who didnt even see the inside of an educational establishment - answering them yes sir, yes mah so please dont even try to talk about education, with your so called education the white man still calls the shots and dictates how much he will allow you to earn, where he will allow you to live and how far you can go in life.

Everything begins with Choice. Humans have the choice to exit society back into the state of nature before such societies existed to create problems we face today or  likewise one is able to choose to live within the confines of this social contract. As imperfect as the contract may seem, the struggle remains in  the continous battle to reconstitute those contracts in distributing equity and justice amongst its members in a pursuit to a state of equilibrium.

I posses the freedom to fall out of any state of society if I so choose without requirment for wages in exchange for expertise and without a desire for the excesses and luxuries of life . You are far from understanding that concept.

Go play with your black supremacist friends

cap28:
that is an understatement, this individual is so devoid of any human traits that it makes you wonder who, how and where he was raised.

An ingrate who would have been working as a houseboy, gardener or janitor for the same people whose arse he kisses had it not been for the courage of african americans.

Haha!. having Mandingo as a disciple is really laughable. the boy is confused most of the time cause they didn't educate him properly in the projects before he escaped.

On point 2. Temper temper now. Overly emotional individuals blow a lot of steam, huffing and puffing all day long. In the end they are still in the same predicaments as they were before without insite into how to overcome their inherent inabilities to master their surroundings.

Morpheus says" FREE YOUR MIND!!!

cap28:
morpheus you are very fortunate that the moderator did not post my full response to your earlier post - i dare you to go into my posts and read it.

its obvious why he removed yours and not mine. The inability to articulate yourself properly requires parental supervision

cap28:
for the sake of brevity i will summarise my position with regard to all the stuff you have been putting up here:

your main grouse with farrakhan is that he is wealthy, influential and respected by african americans for the courageous stand he has taken against one of the most tyrannous govts in the world.

Ha!. How did he make that wealth? or better still what society accorded him the ability to make that wealth. Haven't ever seen him ploughing the earth for his sustenance or has he built a house with his own two hands. What bank does he put his money in. The bank of the nation of islam  Iguess Right right

Like his mentor before him, His wealth is derived from the backs of others and not his intelligence. His ability to decieve and steer up resentment without. A chalatan is a chalatan is a chalatan. Tell him to move back to mother Africa where his ancestors originate from or better yetconfiscate a chunk of the Us and declare his independence from his opressor or is he still waiting for the space ship with the evil scientist named Yacub to come take him and his people away.
Wealth , men please. !!

cap28:
your low self esteem and terrible inferiority complex as well as your undying and pathetic unrequited love for the white man has convinced you that no black man should ever dare challenge a white man no matter how tyrannous.

Completely off point with no direction. Racial politics again. To challenge authority is different from using religious gibberish to mask his inability to solve his peoples problems. A pseudo Malcolm X wanna be who is too cowardly to stand up like X did and take a bullet for living and dieing by his convictions with the courage to admit when something is not true even if it means turning your back on your own brotherhood. Now thats courage I admire.

cap28:
have you asked yourself where you would have been if african americans like farrkhan had not stood up to challenge the white supremacist govt of the US.

Asking me to respect an organization and a leader whose ideology is based on pseudo islamic tenants filled with out of this world space odyseeys and whose origins of African American people are based on fairy tales is unintelligable. There are far better examples of notable individuals who pioneered civil rights  that carry much more weight

cap28:
speaking of picking up arms to challenge a govt -

why are you living off the hard won freedom fought for you by african americans - why arent you in nigeria taking up arms against those criminal puppets that have destroyed nigeria and caused you to run away from nigeria to live in another man's land?

I was waiting for you to leave the UK and form a militant militia group with weapons supplied by Kaddafi. Let me know when you are succesful.

cap28:
i ask you again can you refute anything that farrakhan said in that video clip? i double dare you to even try.

I answer you clearly again. The objective is not to REEFUTE points about building complexes, finding desert water and disgruntled militant groups within the US. The objective is to present and intepret the evidence within a wider context in an attempt to truly educate people on . Blue eyed pork eating devils and one liners like "white supremacist, demons and so on belong in boogeyman fairytales for children.

If you like pseudo religious black supremacist groups so much you should check out black hebrew israelites. they are even more warped with their brain damaged skulls caused by an oppressive states of mind[quote][/quote]